as a local daily, high school sports drive interest, as does s restaurant news. and -- >> we still run birth notices in our papers. who does that anymore? >> reporter: not everyone loves the paper. some elected officials, community leaders -- >> there's a lot of mischief that can go on in the dark that happens when you don't have local journalists keeping track of what is going on. >> reporter: mainers have relied on the sun journal for more than 175 years. thanks to the trust, they still can and be a short delivery person beth combs will see you get your copy, even at your back door. >> thank you to the amazing harry smith for one last piece of good news to take us off the air tonight. on that beautiful note, i wish you a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up ne late. up late. thanks to you at home for joining us. really happy to have here. right of the top, there has been breaking news in the last hour or so in a couple of the legal cases involving former president donald trump. one of these, we've been watching for a few weeks. he lost a big fraud case against his company a few weeks ago. there were huge financial penalties he's been ordered to pay in that case. he is going to appeal the judgment, he's going to appeal the ruling in that case but he, in the meantime, has to put up a bond while he filed that appeal. we've been watching this because the amount of the judgment against him was so huge the body has to put up is cute, roughly half $1 billion. his lawyers told the court as the deadline for filing the bond, for posting the bond approached, his lawyers told the court that they had been unable to obtain the bond. they said they had reached out to 30 different insurance companies but nobody would help him post a bond of that size. at that point, it looked like new york's attorney general who brought this fraud case in the first case, the ag might be about to start seizing trumps bank accounts and seizing his properties to secure the judgment. then, you may recall, there was a last-minute reprieve for trump . a new york appeals court lowered the bond to less than half of what had originally been ordered. they did not explain why they were doing that but that is what they did. they brought the bond amount down from nearly $500 million- $175 million. that would be all that trump would have to put up while he appeals this fraud judgment against him. they also, in addition to reducing the amount he had to put up, they gave him more time. the deadline was extended so he would have until later this week to put up that new $175 million bond. as of this last hour, we just got confirmation in court documents trump has posted the reduced amount of bond. he secured a $175 million bond through something called night specialty insurance company in los angeles. knight specialty insurance, part of an insurance group chaired by a major republican donor. make of that what you will. that move tonight would appear to mean that the former president has satisfied his financial obligations in that huge fraud case for now, at least until his appeal is heard and that is not expected to be at least until this fall. that is one of the two big developments that has happened this evening. there's another in trumps other new york state case, which is a criminal case, not a civil case. this is the us money case that is due to start two weeks from today. the judge in that case has tonight just issued an expanded gag order on mr. trump. last week, this judge issued an order that banned trump from attacking witnesses or prosecutors or jurors or court staff, as well as their relatives. after that gag order, trump started publicly attacking not only the judge, whom is and remains fair game for criticism under the gag order but he repeatedly went after the judges daughter, including identifying her by name on social media. now, the new york district attorney, the prosecutor that got this case asked the judge to expand the gag order to include family members of the judge and family members of the prosecutor. tonight, the judge has done just that. the gag order still doesn't apply to the judge himself with the prosecutor himself but it does now include their families. in expanding the gag order in that way, the judge did not mince words. he said tonight, "this pattern of attacking family members of presiding jurists and attorneys assigned to his cases serves no legitimate purpose. it merely injects fear in those assigned or called to participate in the proceedings that not only they but their family members as well are fair game for defendants with real. the average observer must now, after hearing defendants recent attacks draw the conclusion that if they become involved in these proceedings, even tangentially, they should worry not only for themselves but for their loved ones as well." such concerns will undoubtedly interfere with the very demonstration of justice and constitutes a direct attack on the rule of law itself. again, that case, that criminal case, the first ever criminal case brought against a former president of the united states, it is slated to get underway in a new york courtroom two weeks from today. that is when jury selection will start. the judge tonight making clear that attacks on his family members, family members of the prosecutor will henceforth not be tolerated and will be subject to punishment by the court. so, both of those stories breaking within the last hour or so. we will keep you apprised. if there is further development on this story, there's no reason in legal terms, that there should be further development, but you never know. when it is about misbehavior and attacking people and trying to meddle with the rule of law, sometimes these things develop in a way that the docket could not predict. we will keep ice on that over the course of this hour for you. all right, did you ever hear the one about the cartier jewelry, the shopping spree at cartier, new york city ? this was a fake story but it was a good one. the fake story was that when the president of ukraine came to new york city to give a speech to the u.n. general assembly, the story was his wife, who came to new york with him, spent her time in new york at cartier buying over $1 million worth of jewelry for herself. this is meant to be a shocking story, right ? which in and give ukraine any more support, nobody should. clearly the leaders of ukraine are just stealing it all so they can buy diamond rings for themselves or whatever. totally fake story. it originated, apparently, in russia, no surprise. it was a pretty obvious fake from the outset. even though it had all this detail that was supposed to make it more believable, the detail didn't help. the day on which this person was supposed to have bought all this jewelry at cartier was a day that she and her husband were not in new york. that was very public knowledge because they were doing lots of public events in a whole different country on that day. they were in canada on the day the supposed shopping spree happened in new york city. it was obvious, including in the supposedly dimming details from the very outset. but the people spread that story around., and it states, one english-language russian disinformation site in particular, one that is supposed to look like an american news site, a site called d.c. weekly was particularly effective at spreading the fake story about the cartier jewelry shopping spree that never happened. then a couple of months later, d.c. weekly was doing another one of them, same idea, another totally fake but good story. at this time, it wasn't cartier jewelry, this time it was yachts, boats. this story, fake story included a photo of these two big yachts that you could look up by name on the internet. they are real yachts. but, the fake story about them was that this time, these two yachts had been bought by the president of ukraine himself. it wasn't the wife buying jewelry, the senate was the president of ukraine himself buying boats. $75 million he spent buying these two yachts. again, the whole point of this fake story is very obvious, right? russian disinformation site is spreading this around, russia obviously wants people to believe this story. they want people to think why should we, why should anyone keep providing support to ukraine to fight back against russia having invaded them, why should ukraine get any support from any other country? they are just stealing the support, they are stealing the money. they are biting yachts with it. don't you remember hearing something about them buying diamond rings with it too? just like the jewelry one was obviously false, the supposedly tails of it were easily disproven, same thing with the fake story about the yachts. there were two dots that were supposedly at the center of the scandal. the details of it are supposed to make it more believable. these are real yachts you can look up on the internet machine. the story was these were just sold to the leader of ukraine. both of these boats exist, they are real, they are a noble thing. they are both for sale because they have not just been sold to the president of ukraine or to anyone. ukraine didn't buy them, he didn't buy them. the president of ukraine has no yachts. it is a fake story that appears to have originated in russia, created for obvious reasons. you don't have to be thinking this through. the strategy behind this is as obvious as a brick. you are waging war on another country. if you can spread lies about that of the country and make their allies around the world stop supporting them, then you will cut off their support and their supplies sooner and you will be them in the war. it is a very simple stuff. it is obvious why russia would be doing stuff, even if they are doing it so ham handedly. the strategy is painfully obvious, the execution is obviously fake. i mentioned that the yachts fake story was spread by the same russian disinformation site that the jewelry fake story was spread by. when you start seeing multiple fake, easily disproven, widely discredited stories spread by the same entity, that itself is a red flag that maybe things spread by the website should not be believed, makes it all even more obviously fake. when it came to the yachts, republican senator jd vance of ohio decided he believed it. he decided to take that one and run with it. he spread that story himself, the yachts. he mentioned it as if it was a true thing on steve bannon's podcast. while senator jd vance was talking about all the reasons we should cut off ukraine and let russia take that country and do what they want. we definitely shouldn't support ukraine anymore because they are taking our money and biting yachts. republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene not only spread the same story about the yachts she linked to a version of it. she decided to spread it online, directing her followers to follow the link she posted to a russian think tank. a russian think tank that the state department quite recently has described as a "pillar of russia's disinformation and propaganda ecosystem. she is a sitting congresswoman. she linked to this site the state department has publicly described as "registered in russia and directed by russia's foreign intelligence service." on the one hand, maybe we can be happy russia's disinformation operations that are targeting us and trying to change our policies as a country, try to interfere in our alliances. on the one hand, we can be sort of happy that these efforts are so ham-handed and so obvious and so dumb. on the other hand, some of our elected officials are apparently not put off by any of those problems. they are jumping right in. apparently, believing it all, definitely spreading it, even when spreading it means literally linking right to russia's foreign intelligence service, telling all your american followers go here to check out the truth. take it from me, you're serving member of commerce. after the opposition leader alexei navalney was killed in a russian prison in february, russia created fake audio recordings. they said they intercepted fake audio recordings that purported to be two american government officials, two u.s. state department officials talking amongst themselves about who america would pick next to be the new head of the russian opposition to vladimir putin now that alexei navalny was dead. they are trying to make people think there is no real opposition to that any putin. anyone saying they are opposed to that may putin is the creation of the united states. all real russians love vladimir putin. there is no one actually posed to him there. it is obvious why they would do something like this. it is so obvious this was another ham-handed fake. this posted because audio of these american touch in a plot has them both speaking with really heavy russian accents. they are both americans who are native english speakers, they don't have accents when they speak english at all but they have them speaking english like boris and natasha without the squirrel. still, you do what we can. every once in a while, maybe with a jackpot and a genius like senator jd vance promotes what you made up on some very popular conservative podcast and then it becomes a republican party talking point as if it is a real thing. you keep doing all this done, and quickly transparent fake stuff, every once in a while, one of those guys will jump on board and help you get it done. it is also done. it is often funny, right? it is often kind of hilarious except when it is terrifying. a couple weeks after these russian disinformation websites started circulating the fake audio recording of u.s. officials supposedly taking the new head of the opposition in russia, the person that was mentioned in that fake recording, the man whom the american officials were supposedly picking to be the new marilyn lands, he was physically attacked in front of his house by a man with a hammer . this is a guy who was already exiled from russia. he is an opponent for vladimir putin. he was in lithuania. still, they came and found him there. he was attacked outside his house. they sprayed them with tear gas, they smashed him up with a hammer, they broke his arm, hospitalized him, nearly killed him. again, this didn't happen in russia. opponents of vladimir putin can't live in russia anymore. opponents of vladimir putin get killed and attacked all over the world because russia does whatever it wants and whatever country in the world. no matter what their laws are, right? no matter even the threat of getting caught, they just act with impunity because they are assuming if they keep doing it, they will get away with it. in spain, they just murdered the helicopter pilot who defected to ukraine. in germany, they shot the guy in broad daylight in the middle of a parking downtown berlin. the uk, they used a proprietary russian military nerve agent to go after one guy. they used radioactive polonium to go after another guy. the united states, they were trying to kill a guy in miami but they watched it and the guy got arrested. 60 minutes reported last night on evidence russian military intelligence may be behind the so-called havana syndrome attacks on dozens of american intelligence officials and other high ranking u.s. government personnel. it is not the u.s. government citing russia is behind it, it is 60 minutes reporting, as of last night. but, it is troubling what they turned up. i mean, this is a rogue state, right? this is a country that is still holding american journalists hostage right now. this is a country that is digging into deep new alliances with great neighbors like iran and north korea, including new reporting in "the new york times," that crusher is helping north korea revivify its nuclear program in exchange for north korea arming russia and its ongoing war against ukraine. even if they hadn't just invaded a neighboring country and started the largest land war in europe since world war ii, with everything else they've done and are doing, with everything else they are up to, is this really the country you want to be backing up and helping by spreading their obviously fake propaganda about cartier jewelry and yachts to make us abandon our allies? is this really the country you want to get behind and help out? yes, of course it is if you are in the republican party today. the other thing that russia does today, and that they have been doing for years now, is that they support donald trump. the key witness in the watched house republican impeachment effort against president biden has been arrested and charged with making up his key claims against president biden. prosecutors say he is linked to russian intelligence. in 2020, the similar republican efforts to stovepipe false claims about president biden and some kind of corruption scandal to derail biden's campaign against trump in the 2020 election, those claims too or false claims that were tied to russian intelligence. those too resulted not only in criminal charges but also, that could, in u.s. government sanctions. the collection before that, 2016, of course, the efforts to target the u.s. election to benefit donald trump and hurt hillary clinton. those efforts resulted in u.s. government sanctions. it resulted in multiple federal indictments, including indictments of multiple russian intelligence officers. nevertheless, they are still doing it. we reported here a couple of weeks ago on the renewed efforts by russia to target american elections, once again, to try to promote trump's candidacy and try to hurt his democratic opponent. it is not like i was reporting on some obscure thing a couple of weeks ago when we covered that story. there it is, in "the new york times," a spate of market news sites with russian ties pop up in the united states. russia is still doing it. they are doing it again and it is as ham-handed and embarrassing as it ever was. they are doing it for the same transparently obvious strategic reasons as they do everything. the difference is this time for once and for armed. knowing that it is coming should make us better. except this time around, some social media companies, particularly twitter, have no interest at all in even trying to stop what they are doing to target the election this time around. this time around, many republicans seem to have lost any qualms they might once have had about helping out with what russia is doing, even with the really obviously fake stuff. now here is something new. something new on top of that. it is no longer just russia because why would it be? the way it has gone, why wouldn't other authoritarian countries who want to weaken the united states and want to denigrate democracy and try to get trump back in the white house, why wouldn't they throw their hats in the ring too ? it is not like russia has paid much of a price for it. russia appears to have purchased themselves a significant chunk of one of the two richard irvin parties in the united states for the price of a few sanctions and a few intelligence officers being unable to travel for fear of arrest. that is basically the price they have paid. for the republican party and the conservative vote meant hopping into bed with them in a serious way. that is cheap if you are willing to buy it. so, of course it is no longer just them. headline today in "the new york times," china's advancing efforts to influence the u.s. election raise alarms. "researchers and government officials say china has adopted some of the same misinformation tactics russia used ahead of the 2016 election." "covert chinese account for masquerading online as american supporters of former president donald j trump, promoting conspiracy theories, stoking domestic divisions, and attacking president biden ahead of the election in november, according to researchers and government officials. the accounts signal a potential tactical shift in how china aims to influence american politics, with more of a willingness to target specific candidates and parties, including mr. biden. in an echo of russia's influence campaign before the 2016 election, china appears to be trying to harness partisan divisions to undermine the biden administration's policies. some of these chinese accounts impersonate fervent trump fans, including one on twitter that purports to be a "father, husband, and son who is maga all the way." the accounts marked biden's age and shared photos of him in a prison jumpsuit or claimed mr. biden was a satanist pedophile while promoting mr. trump's make america great again slogan." here's one of these china linked accounts described by these researchers promoting that trump video over the weekend that showed an image of president biden tied up, and foot as if he were being kidnapped or held hostage. here's another one of the china linked accounts showing a different video, one for easter. it is an animated video that shows president biden being assaulted and beaten up by a giant easter bunny. i'm not going to show you the video because it is violence against the president of the united states and it is for easter, isn't that great but it shows the president falling down and looking hurt and being pummeled. "the newark times," reporting researchers have linked this new activity to a "long network of accounts connected with the chinese government." the accounts are not always great at disguising the fact that they are actually chinese. in this instance, where they are trying to look like an american account. you see the name at the top there with the little eagle and the american flag that says liam, republican party. american first. the american flags, the american eagle. and, this post is an attempt by this account to reply to a trump video with basically a big that a boy. 75 million trump fans can't be wrong. the problem with this is they forgot they weren't supposed to be typing in chinese. they were not supposed to be typing in mentoring. it is only the google translate that tells you what it says. if you are trying to be liam, republican party, american first, toggle back to english before you post your compliments to resident trump. the foundation for the defense of democracy, which has done some of the research quoted in "the new york times," today, particularly about this campaign's operation on facebook notes the operation appears to be active almost exclusively during business hours in china, during business hours aging time. all their posts appear here and for us of the overnight hours but those hours to respond to the work starting at 8:50 a.m. beijing time, stopping at 6:00 p.m. beijing time with an hour off for lunch from noon to 1:00 local time, during which they don't post at all. still, these are accounts and uses that are lapsing into chinese or forgetting to turn off the settings that show their web browsers are set to operate in mentoring. they are operating on chinese business hours, including a nice solid hour for chinese lunch. they appear pretty obviously linked to chinese government influence operations. what they are doing now this year is trying to mess with our election, to try to help trump get back in and to hurt joe biden's chances. just like russia has been doing since 2016. and the trump years have shown us, thus far, that we have proven to be, forgive me, we have proven to be not just inept but spineless when it comes to putting up with this from one authoritarian country that wants the worst from us. what are we going to do now that it is two of them at once? both polling for trump. joining us is tiffany hsu, a technology reporter at "the new york times," who have reported on this and other stories on the same topic. thank you so much for being here, i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me. >> so, what is the evidence as you understand it that this appears to be linked to not just operators in china but to the chinese state? >> like you said, there have been some slipups in these accounts. several of these accounts are many, many years old. for a while, they posted exclusively in mentoring. the narrative is a very pro- beijing. it collapses at some point and america is bad. all of this is in mentoring. then they go quiet for a few months and suddenly reemerge posting as liam or ben, maga all the way, i'm a husband, father, 43 years old living in los angeles, these very convincing accounts that are masquerading as americans , posting entirely in english. so, they adopted these personalities that, unless you are a researcher or a journalist and your entire job is to look for clues that you are not an authentic account, for the average social media users, you are like yes, this is a person who supports president trump, just like me. i'm going to listen to what they have to say. >> and, i have been focusing in on trying to understand this on some of the elements of it that are ham-handed or that appeared to be mistakes, letting it slip, accidentally showing your browser is set to mentoring or sometimes accidentally hosting in mentoring. the resting detail that was identified by the foundation for defending democracies about them posted mostly on beijing time except not during their lunch hour. i've been focusing on the things that kind of show it to be chinese operations. as you are saying, some of these personalities and the idiom they are using can be sort of convincing. are they getting better at this? are these things improving over time in terms of their ability to masquerade as american ? >> leaps and bounds beyond what the chinese used to be capable of. if the russians are seen as being ham-handed, they are like the teenager who is like all, mom, i was totally studying at the library and not drinking at a party with my friends. the chinese for a long time were the toddler who was covered in paint saying no, mommy, i didn't just think the entire wall like you told me not to. very enthusiastic but very see- through. what they are doing now is a step change in their capabilities. the chinese used to spread this narrative that was very probating. it was very much this is the beijing party line, china is great. back all of our policies and our philosophies. a couple of years ago, they shifted to beijing is good but america is also bad. you see them start getting involved in the american culture wars, trying to weigh in on rights, on crime in the u.s. what they are doing now is focusing on specific candidates, which is not something most researchers have seen them do. they are adopting these personalities that seem like real americans and they are trying to, and often successfully, generate real engagement from real people. one of these accounts was retreated by alex jones. he has 2.2 million followers. so, the idea that people, including people who have huge audiences, are interpreting these accounts as real voices is pretty concerning to people who have looked at china as an inept influence operator for a long time. >> it's concerning not only that it is working but it is concerning to have what appears to be a state directed effort like this. focused in this way at this time ahead of the election. it really does feel like we haven't learned much. i learned a lot about it from you today and from this reporting. i hope you come back to us and talk to us about this work. it is important and fascinating. tiffany hsu, technology reporter at "the new york times." we have a lot more upcoming tonight, stay with us. th us. ♪♪ dove it. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ new dove. replenish your skin after every shave. weeds... they have you surrounded. take your lawn back with scotts turf builder triple action! gets three jobs done at once - kills weeds. prevents crabgrass. and keeps it growing strong. get a bag of scotts triple action today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it. always dry scoop before you run. listen to me, the hot dog diet got me shredded. it's time we listen to science. one a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health. one a day. science that matters. ♪ limu emu ♪ ♪ and doug ♪ hello, ghostbusters. it's doug... ... of doug and limu. we help people customize and save hundreds on car insurance with liberty mutual. anyway, we got a bit of a situation here. ♪♪ uh-huh. uh-huh. ♪♪ [ metal groans] sure, i can hold. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty liberty liberty liberty ♪ ghostbusters: frozen empire. in theaters now. sara federico: at st. jude, we don't care who cures cancer. we just need to advance the cure. it's a bold initiative to try and bump cure rates all around the world, but we should. it is our commitment. we need to do this. it's time. yes, the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food. everyday, more dog people are deciding it's time to quit the kibble and feed their dogs fresh food from the farmer's dog. made by vets and delivered right to your door precisely portioned for your dog's needs. it's an idea whose time has come. ♪♪ not all caitlin clarks are the same. caitlin clark. city planner. it's an idea whose time has come. just like not all internet providers are the same. don't settle. you want fast. get fast. you want reliable. get reliable. you want powerful. get powerful. get real deal speed, reliability and power with xfinity. she shoots from here? 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>> i'm part of a group called artists for democracy, which is under the umbrella of people for the american way. and a group of us, me and several other artists are all hoping to save democracy, to keep trump from being reelected and to reserve the systems that allow us to participate meaningfully and move toward a better future. i think the arts can really help to connect people with big ideas, important, big picture concepts that resonate emotionally. the arts help to define civilization and i think they can help to save it. that is what we are trying to do. no civilization without democracy. >> you are not a stranger to this kind of work, either conceptually, i know a lot of these concepts undergird your work in general but also in these efforts around elections and around important political moments to try to use the arts to move people. i mean that in multiple senses. do you think over time your thinking about it has changed, that you've seen things that work in ways you might not have expected or using people have reactions to things that would necessarily what you would have anticipated when you were creating the art or working with your colleagues to create stuff? >> well, for example, you showed some of the we the people images from 2017. that was at a time when the dominant narrative was that people were only responding to anger, fear, division and that something that was about unity and conclusion and everyone having equal humanity and being equally american once not going to resonate. but, it did. sometimes i go with my feeling of if there seems to be a lack of addressing what is really important to me that i know a lot of other people are feeling that maybe putting that out there can work. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. i believe that my work is an ongoing dialogue with people of this country and the world. i'm learning all the time. but, i really trust my instincts around my hope and my optimism that we are better than some of the dominant narratives really suggest. >> do you feel like the conventional wisdom, the common wisdom that, it sounds a little bit like what you are describing about 2017, that the democratic base, for lack of a better term, is demoralized, that people aren't motivated to vote to try to save democracy or to try to keep our system of government, for all its flaws, that division is more motivating, that hatred is more motivating than inclusion and solidarity, do you take issue with that conventional wisdom, do you feel like you have a more hopeful view of things? are you kind of banking on that but not sure is there? >> i am banking on it because i think that i have to. i think we all have to. but, we have to not just bank on it, we have to be vigilant. my strategy is to remind people what is at stake. when people understand that if they want to pursue something better in the long term, even something they are not super excited about in the short term without allows the preservation of democracy and a better result if they remain vigilant in the long term, reminding them of the promise of that and that we all have not just a privilege to speak in democracy but an obligation to make democracy function by voting, by educating ourselves on the issues. none of that is super exciting for a lot of people. what i try to do is i try to make images that connect with people's sense of their, just there better humanity. nurturing their, the better side of their humanity with images is what i'm hoping to do. >> contemporary artist, social activist shepard fairey. it is an honor to have you here . thank you very much for being here and good luck with the campaign. >> thanks so much for having me, rachel. >> it starts tomorrow. we will be right back. stay with us. ay with us. not so much here. farxiga reduces the risk of kidney failure which can lead to dialysis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪♪ farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. when you have chronic kidney disease, it's time to ask your doctor for farxiga. because there are places you want to be. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ (fisher investments) at fisher investments we may look like other money managers, but we're different. 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