keep your hands off of trump tower, that is his message to supporters. ag james wants to seize my properties in new york and this includes the iconic trump tower so before the day is over, i am calling on 1 million patriots to pitch in and say stop the witchhunt against trump. the fundraising emails are always blaring the urgent but new reporting suggests trump really is panicking about losing his properties. he has five days to pay the state of new york a bond of nearly half $1 billion when he was found liable in the ag's fraud case against him. trump has spent the last month desperately trying to find a financial institution, a insurer, that would front him the money while he appeals the case. the lawyers claim he approached 30 different lenders but none have come through. they say coming up with a bond of that size is a practical impossibility. today the attorney general's office urged the court not to buy the claims saying that it is impossible is based on the false premise that they must receive a single bond for the entire amount. so, we wait to see what happens next. unless the appeals court waits in and pauses the judgment, if trump does not find a way to come up with the money before monday, the new york attorney general really can start the process of seizing trump's assets and she has made it clear that she is prepared to do just that. >> if he does not have the funds to pay off the judgment then we will seek judgment enforcement mechanisms in court and asked the judge to seize his assets. we are prepared to make sure the judgment is paid to new yorkers. >> i look at 40 wall street each and every day. the ag has never once mentioned trump tower, still today allies of the former president leaked that trump is considering letting the agc's trump tower. it is a option he has considered because he believes the chances are good he can recover the assets on appeal even if he takes it to supreme court. there are a number of problems with the logic. one, trump could easily lose on appeal and lose any chance of getting the property back. even if he was victorious on appeal, there is no guarantee that he would get the property back. as one expert said, they are going after the money and that is all he has the right to get back. now trump does have other options to prevent the state from seizing the assets, he could declare bankruptcy. trumps businesses have already declared bankruptcy six times before but according to reporting today from cnn, trump has privately expressed opposition to any path concerning filing for bankruptcy. one insider told the new york post says he has been there and done that. alternatively he can borrow money from his wealthy donors but apparently his ego will not allow for that. he does not want pity work for everyone to feel sorry for him. now recipients of trumps incessant fundraising might quibble with the notion that trump is not a passing the hat man. but they are correct in saying trump is too ashamed to ask for help from somebody wealthier than him. there is the worry that he could borrow from somebody could lend him the money who want control over him. watch what happened when fox news asked trumps lawyer when they were considering doing that. >> is there a effort on the part of your team to secure this money from another country? saudi arabia or russia? >> there is rules and regulations that are public, i cannot speak about strategy. we have to follow those rules. >> the question was, are you considering getting money from saudi arabia or russia and the answer there was there is rules and regulations. we have to follow the rules. because trump is a big rules guy as we know. that response was not the resounding no you might expect if trump ruled the option of getting money from foreign governors out. for months we have watched as trump has to managed to get delay after delay but in the civil case the clock is running out. the bill is due in five days. joining me now adam, former assistant ag in new york and adam who has been covering the court proceedings. thank you for being here. let's talk about this, we tried to lay out the possibilities but assuming something does not happen trump needs to produce something in five days, either a bond or the money. >> he either has to produce a bond that will stave off enforcement, in the full amount of the judgment plus expected interest. a 500+ million dollar bond stops enforcement while the appeal is pending and if he loses the appeal the full amount is paid within 10 days. option b is enforcement could start. the ag's office has said they will give a 30 day grace period, they do not have to. in state court there is no 30 day stay period but they have given until monday which means on monday the can start seizing financial assets. >> they can put a notice on the door of their building? >> there is a sheriff and marshall in new york city sort of like the wild west and the ag's office can sign a execution, nobody dies except for the assets. delivers it with a $50 fee to the office of the sheriff or city marshal and the marshall can walk into the bank and execute on the assets and drain the bank accounts. ordinarily you wonder where does the defendant bank but conveniently, they did a two month trial that was a roadmap to his assets. >> are you curious about this? people speculated this for a while, trump may have trouble raising the money. that is not to say his value does not exceed this but it is tied up in assets. we have a clearer picture of his cast situation. >> absolutely, we have a clear picture of his universe and constellation of businesses. from judge jones, the court monitor who is looking over everything. her recent report says there was 512 different entities. that is something as adam said earlier, it is a roadmap. we the public, even people following this closely, have a clear idea of what this maze of companies are but the ag knows that and the monitor knows that and pretty soon that may be coming to a head in the enforcement phase. >> let's talk about the fairness of the system, if you are found responsible and have to pay money there is a appeals process and if you put somebody else into the situation who is not trump, it may be difficult for people to come up with the money which is why we have the surety system, what does that mean versus him having the money? >> the bond is written by a insurance broker on behalf of a insurance company, unlike your car insurance, most cars do not crash so you may pay 2000 a year to ensure a 30,000 car but most people lose the appeal, you already lost in the court below. so this insurer is taking a significant risk, they are ensuring the full amount of the judgment from the court below will be paid if the attorney general in this case wins her appeal and trump loses the appeal. so the bond pays out, it is a insurance policy that pays out the full amount. >> he has assets but for anybody who has assets, nobody wants to have to liquidate it in fire sale terms. in this particular instance, if he loses a asset and he has to give up or the sheriff puts a claim on the property beyond the bank accounts you do not always get the best value for that. that cannot be the preferred option. >> one of the interesting things in the interview, james mentioned one property in particular. it harkens back to this moment in the trial when trump was giving his testimony and he said james does not even know where 40 wall street is and she laughed because she can see it from the office. one wonders if that is what she has her sights on and trump did say, his entire pitch to the appellate court to halt the process is that the real estate is not liquid and the bonding companies will not work with him as a result of that. the ag says that is not true, maybe his properties are not as valuable as he says they are. >> there is something they could add a bunch of properties and get to the money he needs. the issue is the roadmap. we know where his finances are or at least the ag does. what is this business of him potentially filing for bankruptcy? >> if you look at the judgment, it lays out which entity has culpability or liability for the judgment, eight judgment debtor, no longer a defendant. owes money and one owes 125 million and another 200 million. he could declare bankruptcy, eight entity can but it does not wipe the debt clean. it pauses it and it brings in a bankruptcy judge to sort out the assets and the liabilities and he would still have to pay assuming his assets still exceed the liabilities he would still be on the hook. >> the idea of raising money from a foreign source, it is speculation. there is no sense that is true, which surprised me about the fox interview because you think the answer would be a resounding no. i do not know if either of you understand that answer, but it made me think maybe you are talking to a foreign entity. >> it is a classic nondenial, denial. she did not say we are putting this off the table but she did not say we are going to do this, it is a way to dodge the question in a textbook style that every journalist looks out for. >> one thing i did not understand at the beginning of this is we know trump raises money every time he is under threat. would that be sufficient? if he did this campaign and said save trump tower and raises the money? >> it is not easy to raise 500 million even for donald trump. i do not think you can use campaign money to pay for a appellate bond on your personal liability. there is campaign finance laws and they prohibit that kind of thing. >> i learned a lot, thank you for being here. a former assistant ag in new york. we have a lot to get to tonight, newly released facts that undercut the fox fear mongering about klein in america. a new jolt in the electric vehicle industry and to fight climate change. we have more just ahead. ahead. and retirement savings. voya provides tools that help you make the right investment and benefit choices. so you can reach today's financial goals and look forward to a more confident future. voya, well planned, well invested, well protected. did you know... 80% of women are struggling with hair damage? just like i was. dryness and frizz could be damaged hair that can't retain moisture. new pantene miracle rescue deep conditioner, with first-of-its-kind melting pro-v pearls... locks in moisture to repair 6 months of damage in one wash, without weigh down. guaranteed or your money back! for resilient, healthy-looking hair... if you know, you know it's pantene. 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in the history of the country. >> joining the is bill, a renowned climate activist, i want to get your take on this, a lot of people serious about climate say we need to change the way we move around, we need to think about movement differently than our car obsessed society. this seems to be a step in the right direction. >> for sure, put it in context, today the world meteorological organization reminded us 2023 was the hottest year in the last 125,000 and issued a red alert for climate change. so far 2024 is hotter than 2023. we have to do something which means doing something about america being one of the biggest sources of emissions for transportation. this rule is not that strong. it actually relaxes the trajectory they were on because the uaw, the auto workers union and others said maybe we are moving too fast, but it does continue the momentum toward the electric furcation of our auto fleet. if you think about it, the things we have to do to deal with climate change, this is not hard. we are asking people over the next decade to change in their current car for one that is probably already cheaper or heading that way, quieter, fewer moving parts, costing a lot less to operate. that is not a large sacrifice to demand. the main sacrifice comes from the fossil fuel industry that once to sell you gas forever so today they announced they are launching a seven-figure advertising campaign in swing states accusing biden of a electric vehicle mandate which this is not. trump last weekend promised a blood that in america and the thing he was talking about when he talked about the blood that was electric vehicles. like it or not, climate change and the things we have to do do to deal with it is now front and center in the campaign. >> you make an interesting point, there are people including yourself that think if we want to take it seriously , it requires massive behavioral change and infrastructure change so we can use public transportation more than cars. that said, this emphasis on electric vehicles will be almost indiscernible two people that make the shift. all that happens is you charge the cards as opposed to going to the gas station. it makes me wonder why trump is so invested in the fact that this is some kind of evil take over. >> as usual, the guy has no idea what he is talking about, he said the other day electric vehicles only go 15 miles, i have been dropping one for years and it goes to 50 and the ones they are building now for 500. mostly it is the fact that the republican party on these issues for years now is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the fossil fuel industry and the biggest threat to them is people will have to stop filling up all the time. i hardly remember how to operate the gas pump anymore because i just plug into the wall at home and the price of running the car is smaller than it was before. it is good for me and bad for exxon and that should give you a clue as to why the fuel industry has launched this seven-figure ad campaign. >> does this give you confidence? i ask you as a proxy for people that do not ink trump is the answer to fighting climate change but who are dissatisfied with the pace the biden administration has gone on this despite major milestones they have achieved. does this feel like movement in the right direction? >> nobody is ever moving fast enough but in this case the choice could not be clearer. the third act, disorganization for people over 60 endorsed biden and one of the biggest reasons is because it is abundantly clear that if we elect trump it will be a full on holt to the momentum that has developed around renewable energy. it is not that biden is doing everything right, he is an egg politically constrained environment but he is reorienting our society in the right direction and beginning to spend the money we need and given four more years will probably make serious progress. the contrast between that and the guy that pulled us out of the paris climate accords last 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is rampant. >> it is the crime stupid. >> if you would randomly flip on fox news you would probably be watching a segment about how biden's america is rampant with crime. it is not just fox, trump is also obsessed with crying but a specific kind of crime. >> it is a new category. migrant crime, there is crying, violent crime and migrant crime. >> the u.s. is being overrun by the biden migrant crime, a new form of this is violation to the country. we call it biden migrant crime. >> there is a problem with that. but trump and fox are pushing black fax, crime across the country is down and continuing to drop, we have new data that shows no matter how you slice it america is getting safer. property crime is down, violent crime is down, the murder rate solved the sharpest annual decline ever recorded and that suppose it wave of migrant crime trump is obsessed with, fox rain 400 segments on it in the first 10 weeks but the facts are not on trump war fox site on that, statistically speaking immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than citizens are but you do not hear that. none of this is not to say that many areas across the country are not grappling with crime but the narrative pushed that rises up on a rise under the democratic administration is false. what fox news lacks in fax, it makes up for in vibes. >> democrats will say the crime is down. >> we all know communities do not feel safer. >> you do see crime on the rise, i know biden said crime is down in america. do you believe your lying eyes or the president? >> at the white house he was touting a drop in crime statistics. that is not what we are feeling or seeing? >> do not believe your lying eyes, the reality is crime in america started spiking in 2020 during the pandemic. fox is taking advantage of a gap between reality and perception. for the past few decades america has felt the country was getting more dangerous even when it was not. those feelings now have a partisan split to them. last year 92% of 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they cannot tell you that it is when the first slave trade took place, when slaves were taken to jamestown. when you are asked the question, do you know what the middle passage was? yet you are bringing bills that will tell me or any other individual that my blackness does not exist or if i have a lgbtq brother or sister that there right student not exist but if you allow me to take it a step further, what we are witnessing now is the realization of what may happen in november. this is trump activism at its best. a continuation of rollbacks. we saw it when a woman's right to choose was rolled back. what we see here something called divisive concept laws. lgbtq rights will become further under attack. my question is, what rights will people such as myself and marginalized people in this country -- i am sitting here thinking about the scott decision, i should not have to think about that, i think about congressman john lewis crossing the bridge, to go to montgomery and fight for the simple right to vote when every day the rights are being stripped away but i am also concerned for my democratic brothers and sisters who do not understand the importance of what the november election will mean to us. that is what sb 129 -- the effect it will have, it is a rollback. as i mentioned, beyond jim crow on steroids. it is taking me back to a arab were i can still hear my grandparents talk about what it was like to hear the bomb that went off at the 16th street baptist church but it also says to me that my black in america is not beautiful. that i am not given the inalienable rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness in this country. >> enqueue for connecting this, something people may think is a abstraction to something very real and what people can do about it in november. this is the kind of thing that is catching on in other parts of the country as well. thank you for joining us tonight. we have one more story coming up as the prime minister of israel signals he is determined to launch a ground offensive in gaza's southernmost city. a look at the leverage president biden has to prioritize the protection of civilians. that is next. that is next. the! curry from deep. that's caaaaaaaaash. i prefer the old intro! this is much better! i don't think so! steph, one more thing... the team owner gets five minutes a game. cash bros? 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he has leverage in this situation. the supply of u.s. weapons paid for by american citizens israel is using in this war. why won't the president use that particular leverage? joining me is michelle goldberg, columnist for the new york times. michelle, thank you for being with us. it is an interesting few weeks we have been watching where president biden announced eardrops of aid, announced a c bridge that secretary of state antony blinken says will be in effect in two weeks as if we are dealing with a country with whom we don't enjoy great influence. he would like netanyahu to allow the aid into gaza and he can't get him to do it. >> i think that netanyahu has always shown he expects an enormous amount of deference from american leaders and shows democratic presidents complete contempt and defiance and we've seen this over and over again. he depends on domestic politics constraining american presidents or at least democratic american presidents because obviously israel has a very strong supporters among large parts of the american jewish community, among evangelical christians. it has made it in the past politically poisonous to go against israel. that hasn't always been the case. an example people bring up all the time is ronald reagan basically demanding that israel stop what he called a holocaust in lebanon in the 80s and there are other times in which american presidents have exercised leverage over israel. it falls to bite and do it. >> what you commented on, but netanyahu knows is there are domestic political considerations about that in america. where biden is facing pressure from some progressives and people within the democratic party for not exercising that leverage that he's got, if he were to, what happens then? >> i think that there is blowback either way. at a certain point, you saying you have to make a decision based on morality and leadership, not just domestic political calculations. not that domestic medical calculation sprint important, especially given the existential threat at stake in the november election. i think that, look, you have chuck schumer basically talking about netanyahu as an obstacle to peace, you have a huge amount of opposition to this israeli government among jewish people, the vast majority of whom are democrats. so, either way, there is going, because this is an issue that defies the democratic party, either way there's going to be some fallout. i think the fall out, there is the fall out from not acting is humanitarian catastrophe. the only thing i would disagree with you is when you said that over 1 million people might be on the brink of starvation. they are on the brink of starvation now. by the time they actually, i'm sure you know, by the time they declare a famine, it is too late to save so many of these people. i also think just in terms of our national security, the idea of showing strength can sometimes be overrated in american politics but there is something pathetic about having israel that is so dependent or at least so, such a massive recipient of american aid being so defiant of the wishes and the demands of the american government. >> you make an interesting point. the chuck schumer stuff, the speech he made last week may have been lost on some people. it is remarkable chuck schumer going out on that much of a limb to criticize and netanyahu. he is america's highest-ranking elected jewish person. he was not critical of israel the country, he was simply critical of netanyahu and stopped a little short of asking him to resign but he did think israel should elect a new leader. >> my guess is that chuck schumer does not go out and give a speech like that without given a heads up to the white house. i think that at this point, you know, netanyahu has been, he is an obstacle or his government is an obstacle to getting humanitarian aid into gaza and also he is an obstacle to any sort of plan for the day after, which is one reason why they are, there's a lot of reasons why they are quickly losing support in the united states and around the world but one is because there is no, there's no end to this on the horizon. there's no day after. >> michelle, thank you as always. it is good to see you. michelle goldberg, opinion columnist for the new york times. that is our show for tonight. it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. my second time encountering you today and it is always a pleasure, my friend. >> you can help me with this. i really, i don't know much about the stock market. it says here dow jones, 39,000 512 , s and p 5000 to 24. nasdaq 16,000 369. besi