crimes in the january 6th attack on the capitol on his first day in office. >> going to work with the this sunday, trump's promise. donald trump vows to free those charged and convicted of crimes in the january 6th attack on the capitol on his first day in office. >> going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots as mike fence says he won't be backing him in 2024. >> i will not be endorsing donald trump this year. >> i will talk to bill cassidy of louisiana one of the serve republicans who voted to convict donald trump. plus, growing frustration. senate majority leader chuck schumer calls for new leadership in israel warning prime minister netanyahu is an obstacle to peace. >> netanyahu coalition no longer fits the needs of israel after october 7th. >> this is unprecedented. you should not feel fellow democrats this way at all. >> is israel's relationship with the u.s. in danger? i'll talk to democratic senator ben carden of maryland the chairman of the house foreign relations committee and feed the world. in our "meet the moment" conversation, jose andrés of the world central kitchen to deliver meals to people in crisis. >> joining me for insights and analysis are jonathan martin of politico. symone sanders townsend, former spokesperson for vice president kamala harris and lahnee chen of the hoover institution. welcome to sunday. ite's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with kristen welker. good sunday morning and happy st. patrick's day. in a week where donald trump officially became the presumptive republican nominee for president, his threats of retribution are mounting, promising one of his first acts as president would be to free those charged and convicted for attacking the capitol on january 6th. nearly of whom 800 have pled guilty to their crimes, on ukraine in which he supports a loan, he told hungarian leader jail for years, if you call them people, i don't know if you call them people. in some cases they're not people, in my opinion. >> and while addressing the auto industry, the former president made this ominous comment. >> we will put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line and you're not going to be able to sell those cars. if i get elected. if i don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole -- that's going to be the least of it. it will be a bloodbath for the country. that will be the least of it, but they're not going to sell those cars. >> the trump campaign tried to clarify saying he was talking about the auto industry, but the biden campaign seized on the comments saying mr. trump is doubling down on his threat of political violence. at the same time donald trump's delay tactics with the legal system seem to be working. the new york hush money case now delayed for 30 days, giving the defense more time to review documents. and in georgia, the election interference case, the lead prosecutor nathan wade resigned friday. wade was scheduled to appear on this broadcast today, but canceled last minute citing a family emergency. there's one place trump didn't get a break. his own vice president mike pence, whose life was threatened on january 6th, who said this friday. >> donald trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years, and that's why i cannot in good conscience endorse donald trump. >> joining me now, republican senator bill cassidy of louisiana, one of only seven republicans who voted to convict donald trump in his impeachment for attempting to overturn the 2020 election. senator cassidy, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you. >> thanks so much for being here. i want to start by getting your reaction to donald trump's comments about a bloodbath. do you think that those comments were appropriate? >> two things about that. the general tone of the speech is why -- is why many americans continue to wonder should president trump be president? that kind of rhetoric is on the edge and maybe it doesn't cross, maybe it does, depending on your perspective and i think the mainstream media contributes to it. u if you take the one about the bloodbath, which arguably could be about an economic bloodbath, not the kind of street violence to the election, then it gives his defenders something to focus on, something distorted. but, yes, he always walks up to the edge on that rhetoric, and, again, that's why people are concerned, but sometimes the mainstream media, whether they want to or not, can't resist and they go just a little bit too far, which distracts from what could be the impact. >> and just to be very clear, you're saying it walks up to the line. does that comment, even if in the context the broader backdrop of talking about the auto industry, does it cross a line for you? you heard what the biden administration said. they say it's another sign that he's using terms related to political violence. >> well, that's their perspective. they've got a candidate who also doesn't seem fit for office, but you can also look at the definition of bloodbath and it could be an economic disaster. so if he's speaking about the auto industry in particular in ohio, then you ta can take it with a little more context, and that's why i say you walk up to the line. and depending upon the perspective and someone will interpret it, he's running against biden and his defenders want to de-finland him and they'll say it's about economic disaster. there's always just that little bit of tension there which allows the dispute about the interpretation as opposed to the general sort of is this the person that we want to have in office? >> and what about his comments that undocumented immigrants, not all of them are people. what does it say about the republican party that the presumptive gop nominee is using that kind of language, sending that message? >> let me say first, he was speaking about the possibility of criminals being among the immigrants, and those are the people he was saying may not be people, if you will. on the other hand, clearly, the president's rhetoric has reflected poorly in terms of regarding folks who are coming here illegally, illegally and they shouldn't be, but in a dehumanizing fashion, and that's why, again, many people continue to have reservations, and the best thing donald trump can do running for president is that he's running against joe biden, of which many people have reservations, and that's why people are considering third parties. so it's a sorry state of affairs. >> well, let me ask you about some recent comments he made about january 6th. he said on the first day of the second term he would, quote, free those who have been charged and convicted with january 6th and committing crimes related to january 6th. do you think that's appropriate? that people who've been convicted, in many places have pled guilty, should be pardoned? >> i do not think it's appropriate. we are a nation of laws, and those folks were convicted, many times they pled guilty. if you plead guilty, i.e., obviously, you are not a patriot. you are someone who committed a criminal act, so i think that would be a wrong signal if you're the chief executive and you are responsible for enforcing the laws. >> senator, it's interesting, when you became one of those who voted to convict former president trump in has second impeachment, you said, our constitution and our country is more important than any one person. do you believe that former president trump would follow the constitution in a second term? >> now that is a hypothetical which is hard for me to kind of go at, and, frankly, kristen, that's the kind of question that people ask, almost begging an answer. all i can say is that we have checks and balances within our system that if any one person attempts to act in some unconstitutional fashion, they can be theoretically checked. i also want to point out that joe biden acted in an unconstitutional fashion when he agreed to forgive student loans. he found a work around and nonetheless, we have checks and balances. i'm not defending the former president, but if you present in that theoretical, i have to answer in which the context works. >> can you -- the student loans and the fact that he tried to overturn a free and fair election? my question relates to, of course, what happened on january 6th, and i didn't hear you say, yes, you have confidence that he would defend the constitution. >> so i'm not establishing equivalency at all, period, end of story. there is not. but i can't theoretically say in the hypothetical that trump's going to do one thing or the other, but i'm not establishing quivalency between january 6th and what biden has done. >> let me ask you about former vice president mike pence. as you know he made a lot of headlines at the end of this week when he said he's not going to endorse his former boss, donald trump. it comes as a number of trump critics from mitch mcconnell and chris sununu and brian kemp said he would not endorse donald trump, and i know you've gotten this question a lot, and i have to ask, will you endorse donald trump, senator? >> i'm smiling because this keeps my streak unbroken on "meet the press" where i'm asking this or similar to that. in fact, my staff had an over/under as to how long it would take. at this point all i can say is i will vote for a republican for the president of the united states. >> and i have to continue the streak and ask you follow-ups to get an answer out of you, senator. just again, will you endorse -- are you ruling it out? i didn't hear you say, yes, you're going to endorse him. >> again, no, the answer i'm going to give and the answer i've given consistently when asked on "meet the press," i plan to vote republican for the presidency of the united states. >> you haven't endorsed him yet. >> i've answered this question so many times before, by the way. i've answered this question so many times before on every show, but that's my answer. >> i hear you. this week is a little different because he did just become the presumptive nominee. so you don't have any plans right now to endorse him. you plan to endorse and vote for, as you say, a republican. will you vote for donald trump or are you going to write in a name? >> really, good, kristen, but i plan to vote for a republican for presidency of the united states. >> you're not going to tell us. would you rule out voting for donald trump? let me ask you that. is it off the table for you? >> you know, i think -- you're kind of beating a dead horse right now. i've been very explicit with what my answer is, and i've answered this in greater detail in times past. so i'm going to stay where i've just said. i plan to vote republican for the presidency of the united states. >> let me ask you this. you have not closed the door publicly on a third-party run. we've heard that no labels does, in fact, plan to run a candidate. have you been approached by no labels and is there any chance you would run on a no labels ticket? >> i was never seriously considered to be their candidate. it was reported in the press otherwise, but i was never seriously considered, so that kind of -- obviously the answer is not. on the other hand, the very fact that know labels did -- that was floated, i will say, has a certain rationale to it. people at no labels want answers to serious problems in our country, and right now neither candidate is offering serious solutions. you've heard me speak about social security before. neither -- neither candidate is offering something which has a snowball's chance of passing congress and yet social security will become insolvent in about eight years. so, wait. it's going insolvent in eight years, and neither candidate is offering a solution which has a snowball's chance in hades. this might be someone we could consider because this person is talking about serious answers to serious problems. i would point out that if social security goes insolvent there will be a 24% cut in benefits for everybody receiving it and that's why it's so serious. >> we're getting to social security right now, but just to be clear, you're not running on a no labels ticket. i just want to be clear about that. >> i'm not. >> okay. let's get to social security. you say neither candidate has a plan. biden has put forward a plan and part of that would be raising taxes on businesses and large corporations. on monday donald trump said he would be open to cutting social security. he walked those comments back, but do you think that trump can be trusted on the issue of social security to protect social security? >> well, define "protect social security." neither candidate has put up a plan that would prevent the mandatory 24% cut in benefits when the trust fund goes bankrupt. and, by the way, biden's plan, he's already proposed $4.2 trillion on wealthier americans, and now he's going to tax them again for this. at some point you confiscate the wealth of wealthier americans and you wouldn't achieve everything that he's saying that he's going to do. this is kind of like his go-to. i'm going to tax wealthier americans to fill-in-the-blank. it's just not practical the way he's proposing it, but it gives him the talking point. people want to move beyond talking points and want actual answers and we're not getting them. >> part of your plan involves an investment fund, and the challenge and criticism is that would that not pose serious risks to investors, essentially leaving social security to the chance of the market, the stockmarket? >> no. in our proposal we actually created a trust fund separate from the social security trust fund, so no risk is borne by the beneficiary. she's going to repeal that law that saws she gets a 24% cut and will use the money here to offset whatever borrowing is required to pay our benefits until it's fully accounted for. and so there's actually no exposure. and if you look at the stockmarket return since 1929, it's averaged 8.5% return, and, yeah, there might be some time in the future where it dips down, but history shows when it increases back up, and this is where every pinch of fund almost in the world does except for social security. we need to follow best practices. >> senator, before i let you go, i have to ask you about the house-backed bill on tiktok which effectively requires the chinese-owned company bytedance to sell it or face a total ban of tiktok in this country which has been deemed a national security threat. will you vote for this in the senate if it comes to the floor for a vote? >> i'd like to see the final language, but i'm certainly predisposed to vote for it. anyone who doesn't think that the chinese communist party would like to influence how we think in our country just doesn't understand what they do. they have members of the board of directors, chinese communist party has members on the board of directors of bytedance, the parent company of this, and in previous times, the federal government has required the sale of a chinese social media company over these sortses of national security concerns, and so i think this is consistent with what we've done in the past, and, by and large, i support it. >> all right. senator cassidy, thank you so much for joining me this morning. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, kristen. when we come back, democratic senator ben card din, the chair of the senate majority relations joins me next. e majory relations joins me next. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? 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>> i think people should listen to his entire speech. senator schumer's speech came from his heart, what he believes is necessary for peace. he was very clear about hamas needs to be eliminated, that there can be no peace in the middle east for either the palestinians or the israelis with hamas, the responsibility for what is happening there is clearly hamas, and israel has the total right to defend itself. and then he talks about how do we move on after the war and get peace in the region. you need security and an authority for the palestinians that will provide security for the palestinians and israelis, but you also have to have a path way to two states living together in peace, and i think he was very clear that it's the israelis, their system, need to give clear direction as to who they want to be their leaders. >> would you go so far, senator, i hear you saying he gave context in his speech, but would you go so far as to call netanyahu an obstacle to peace given his opposition to a toile-state solution? >> i think it's up to the israelis to determine their own leaders. i recognize that. we've had challenges with the netanyahu coalition prior to october 7th, real concerns that caused major division within israel before october 7th. there's unity now because of the war. let's see what happens after the war. >> you made a very interesting point. according to the intelligence report, netanyahu's viability as a leader may be in jeopardy. as you know, there have been protests in israel because of how he's handling the war right now. do you think netanyahu is the right leader for this moment? >> well, i think the israelis will recognize they have to get past hamas at this particular moment. once there is security in gaza and there is security for the palestinians and israelis, the israelis need to focus on who they want their leader to be. we don't want to see a repeat of october 7th. nobody wants to see that, but it means you have to have a pathway toward peace. you need to have security. you need two states living together side by side in peace. who is the right leader? it's up to the israelis. >> president biden said that if prime minister netanyahu goes into rafah, that that would be a red line for him. i wonder what you think should happen if netanyahu goes into rafah, if there's no clear plan presented to the united states for protecting u.s. -- for protecting civilians, i should say, in the region. should the u.s. consider withholding aid and weapons to israel? >> with a trusted friend, a long mature relationship, you don't look for a transactional leverage in order to deal with your conversations. you have frank and honest discussions and you try to find a common path forward. there's clear that going into rafah at this particular moment where so many people, so many palestinians -- you have to make arrangements to make sure that the people that are there are not going to be at undue risk. and the israelis have acknowledged that. so we're going to deal with our foreign policy based upon our values. at times we may disagree with israel, but it will be a relationship of friends. >> you are saying we don't use leverage, but isn't this the right time to use leverage when you have this growing humanitarian crisis and schumer and president biden saying israel's not doing enough to protect civilian lives in gaza. why not use all of the leverage that is at the united states' disposal? >> the u.s. has tremendous conversations with israel and we use that leverage. we don't have to do it through conditionality. >> why, i should say, do you think you have not gone as far as leader schumer and president biden in being critical of how israel is conducting this war? and, again, the growing humanitarian crisis that we're witnessing in gaza? >> i would say i'm deeply concerned about what is happening in gaza today about the humanitarian crisis. we all have a responsibility including israel to do more to help in regard to humanitarian assistance. we need to do more to get the hostages released. so, no, i'm not satisfied with what's happening on the ground, and we need to be aggressive with what's happening in this crisis, and innocent people are dying, and we can't let that happen. >> let's turn to ukraine now. there's been a big debate over whether more aid will be sent to ukraine and what the form of that will be. former president donald trump has said he would support it only if it's in the form of a loan. is that something that you would support, senator? >> no. i think ukraine needs to have -- we have to get help to ukraine. if it starts as a loan, if we can't do anything other than that, we might have to consider that, but this is in our national security interest. all they're asking for us is resources, not our troops. ukraine is not the end of russia's aggression. if they win in ukraine, they'll go further. i met with the president of poland this past week. the prime minister of estonia. i had a chance to talk to her last night. they're our nato allies. we should have done it well before now. we shouldn't be hesitating in providing this aid. >> do you think that's the only realistic path this loan being discussed and it sounds luke you're open to it if you reach that conclusion? >> i want to see the supplemental passed as is. that's the way we get aid in as quickly as possible and passed by an overwhelming majority in the united states senate. it provides the aid that ukraine desperately needs. it provides the humanitarian assistance that we need. it helps israel and our allies in the indo-pacific. we need to get that done. it also helps our military resupply what they need, and it's all done through aid here in the united states to provide the resources. we need to get that done. that's the way you get things done quickly. if we try a different path, it's going to take a long time. ukraine needs the help today. they don't have the ammunition they need. they're fighting russia that recognizes there is a weakness here because of the lack of equipment. no, we shouldn't be looking at alternatives. we should be passing the supplemental. >> i have to ask you what i was just talking to senator cassidy about, tiktok, this bill which just passed the house again. the house bill would effectively require bytedance, the parent company, to sell tiktok or face a total ban in the u.s. is that something you would support if it did come up for a vote in the senate? >> we are concerned about what tiktok does with this information. whether they could use it against americans and privacy and compromise our national security. our concern is the ownership of tiktok and it's not on those using it and it's not on freedom of speech and content. it's solely on ownership and we have concerns on all of the social media platforms with our children. there are broader issues. but tiktok's concern is whether the chinese will be using it for our national security interest. >> but if this bill in its current form came before you, would you vote yes on it? >> i'm certainly sympathetic to it. let's see how it goes through the senate process, but yes, i think we need to put guardrails in regards to the ownership of tiktok. >> you are open to it, it sounds like, but haven't made a final decision. >> no, because i think we'll see how the senate takes this up, and there are concerns for safety for our children, and there are other issues that may get combined with this. so i'll be working with my colleagues, but i would like us to get to the finish line and provide the guardrails necessary. >> let me switch gears. you became chairman when bob menendez was intighted on bribery charges. we now are hearing that he is considering running for re-election as an independent. we asked and he didn't rule it out. what do you make of him running for re-election if that happens? >> those are very serious charges. his trial is coming up shortly. my responsibility in taking over the chairmanship of the senate foreign relations committee is to make sure that committee can function and deal with the challenges that we have globally. so i'm going to focus on my responsibilities as chair and senate foreign relations committee and we'll see how these matters come out. >> i have to ask you one more before i let you go. you are retiring at the age of 80. obviously, age has been in the spotlight against the backdrop of this election cycle. do you think there should be an age limit for elected office? >> no, i don't think there should be an age limit for elected office. if i could just correct you a little bit, i'm not retiring. i'm not running for re-election. >> yes, not running for re-election. an important distinction. >> each person has to make an important distinction. i have a six-year term, and i think it's the right decision. >> okay. all right. senator cardin, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> we really appreciate it. when we come back, democrats are playing it cool. are they right not to worry? 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[splash] before advil: advil dual action fights pain two ways. advil targets pain at the source, acetaminophen blocks pain signals. advil dual action. welcome back. the panel is here. jonathan martin of politico. lahnee chen, a fellow at the hoover institution and symone sanders tounld townsend, former chief spokesperson for vice president kamala harris. thanks to all of you for being here. i want to start on trump's legal battles and specifically the drama that is playing out in georgia this week, a judge effectively ruled that the top prosecutor or the district attorney, one of the two, had to come off of the case after allegations there was a conflict of interest because they had a romantic relationship. nathan wade decided to step down. he was supposed to be here this morning. he decided not to be here, citing family emergency. but, jonathan, what do you make of this politically? how did the politics of this play out? >> the whole trump strategy is to muddy the waters on these cases and blur them as one great persecution against him and bet that the american voter can't keep pace with all of the details. and, by the way, oh, if there's some hiccups along the way here in some of these individual cases, all the better for me, and i'll try to buy time by delaying and pushing these things back to after the election and bet that i can win the election and then try to pardon myself at least in the federal cases. that is obviously what he's up to and we are here on st. patrick's day. so far he appears to have had a pretty good string of luck in that strategy. >> symone, what do you make of that? and do you expect any of these cases to go to trial because as jonathan's pointing out, i mean, look, all of these cases have been delayed now. that hush money case was supposed to start at the end of the month and now that's not going to happen. >> literally, delay, delay, delay. in georgia, i think this delay came about because we were distracted. this was an entire distraction of salacious gossip that because there was a formal inquiry the judge had to hear it, and then we have these evidentiary hearings. and instead we're talking about nathan wade and d.a. fani willis trump and his allies in georgia tried to steal the election and that is why there is a case in georgia in the first place. i think in new york we'll see that case go. i don't know about any of the other. >> lahnee, what do you make of all of this? >> i think there are two things that come out of this for most voters. number one, this is a hot mess. this whole thing has become a hot mess and that leads to number two, which is, if you think at recent survey research out of georgia, what you find is voters say this is a politically motivated prosecution and that, by the way, is the message that the trump campaign and the trump team has been emphasizing all along, and so i really think fundamentally to jonathan's point, this strategy is working for the former president. what he is doing is working in terms of saying look, there is a lot of stuff out there and fundamentally what this is about is a witch hunt for me. >> democrats can't count on the legal system to take care of trump. he's got to be beaten in the political court, right? biden's got to beat him at the polls. >> absolutely. in all of these cases, donald trump brought this upon himself. he's the one that kept the documents in florida after the archives begged him to give them back. he is the person that got on the phone that asked for 11,780 votes and steal the election and he tried to cover the relationship with stormy daniels and he did say it would be wild and encourage people to march on the capitol, the insurrection, like a block away from us. >> lahnee, it plays different in the election than the primary, doesn't it? >> it does. for independent voters or potentially soft republican voters, i do think some of it has become background noise unless and until there a disposition. that will be the difference. if you look at the polling, that is the difference. if there is a dispositioning in these cases, then it does change the dynamic, and that is why you see the legal strategy now becoming a political strategy, and that's yet a question of timing and so important. >> it's a really great point. the other thing we all saw this week, special counsel robert hur testified about his report about the classified documents and of course, he decided not to charge him, symone, basically infuriating democrats with his testimony of a bipartisan moment, if you will, and it comes as we are getting this new reporting about the biden campaign and about president biden himself and how he is taking especially all of these polls, which show him in some cases losing to former president trump, basically reporting that biden has grown angry and anxious about his re-election efforts. symone, is that what you're hearing in your conversations with democrats? >> yeah. look, if i were running for election against a person like donald trump who has as many issues as he has and has committed as many alleged acts of criminality as he has, and you saw polls that said i was losing to him, even i would be, like, what is going on here in america? so i have heard the frustration from democrats, but also that they do believe there is time and opportunity to get their message out now that it is a one-on-one, trump and biden, and make that contrast so folks understand their choice come november. >> he has to drive the message though. biden has to make the case every day against trump almost as he's more of a challenger than the incumbent, right? he's got to sort of do that, prosecute the case against trump. >> how do you do that from the oval office? that's his challenge. >> i think you need to have an army of surrogates helping you every day, and you also have to get out there and do it yourself more aggressively. there are so many examples. take the tiktok case where trump changes his mind on banning tiktok clearly in part because of the billionaire with a stake in tiktok. if you're a democrat how do you not scream that from the rooftops? this is brazen corruption. it remains to be seen if biden can't prosecute this. >> i don't think it's working. i don't think it's working. >> they would argue it has in the past. >> well, 2020 is not 2024. >> abortion rights -- >> that's their point. >> and abortion is part of the democracy argument. >> the biggest intervening factor between 2020 and 2024 is inflation and that has come into effect, and people really feel the impact of that, so unless the biden team goes directly on the economy and talks about how a second term of president biden would be potentially better economically than a second term of president trump. that's the argument that they've got to go to. it's a tough argument to make that trump's better on. >> they were so dependent upon his opponent to win re-election. >> this is not a normal election. >> of course, it's want. this is not a normal time. >> look at trump yesterday. >> exactly, talking about the january 6th criminals as hostages and promising a bloodbath and demonizing immigrants saying they're not human. >> that's the best bet for biden, by the way. >> the democracy is what you will do for the voters is what will speak to them, i believe. >> great conversation. you guys didn't need me at all. >> it's your table. we're happy to be here. when we come back, age is seen as a potential liability in the 2024 campaign, but it was also an issue in the last presidential rematch in 1956. our "meet the press minute" is next. t treating you right... you might be treating it wrong. and i know, you've been going through it. but what if you get to it. a key source of your asthma inflammation. enter nucala. it isn't your rescue treatment and it's not a steroid. it's an autoinjector you can do at home. just once a month. nucala targets and reduces eosinophils and helps your symptoms. think less asthma attacks... less need for oral steroids... less asthma-related hospital visits. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic asthma. nucala is not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur. get help right away for swelling of face, mouth, tongue, or trouble breathing. infections that can cause shingles have occurred. don't stop steroids unless told by your doctor. tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. may cause headache, injection site reactions, back pain, and fatigue. it's not you - it's your symptoms. so, help get ahead of your asthma. get to the source, measured with simple blood testing. ask your specialist about nucala. welcome back. concerns over president biden and former president trump's age are not the first time a president's health has come under intense scrutiny. the 34th president dwight eisenhower suffered a heart attack and was hospitalized in his first term raising questions about whether he was physically fit for office as he sought re-election in 1956. as former first lady eleanor roosevelt argued on this broadcast, the issue of the president's health brought an intense focus on his vice president richard nixon. >> even before the campaign started, the democrats indicated that they were going to lay great stress on the slogan that a vote for eisenhower is a vote for nixon. do you think that that's either a real issue or a good issue? >> i think it's an issue you have to face because at no time do any of us know what may happen to us. therefore, when we elect a president and a vice president, we must be prepared to face the fact that the vice president may become president. that may happen to anybody at any time, and i think all of us should face that issue and know whether we are prepared to elect on that basis. when we come back, celebrity chef jose andrés, the founder of world central kitchen, joins me for our "meet the moment" conversation. golo for life plan and learn the facts about willpower, metabolism, and lasting weight-loss without starvation dieting. get the golo for life plan delivered right to your door. no credit card is required. plus, get free instant access to mygolo.com for support with no monthly fees. never pay for an online diet site again. head to golo.com. that's g-o-l-o .com. welcome back. chef jose andres says he doesn't know if he even describes himself as a chef anymore. to the world he's one of the most significant humanitarians of the 21st century. world central kitchen, the aid organization he founded, is the first group on the front lines of crises around the world from the quake in haiti to the war in ukraine. its mission, feeding the people impacted by disaster and hardship. recently andres has been on the ground in gaza working to bring more food and aid into the territory with officials warning famine is imminent. this week i sat down with jose andres as the first shipment of humanitarian of aid by sea easy departed cyprus, thanks to a new maritime corridor that world central kitchen organized. >> what we cannot do is fail the people of gaza. that is the true failure is not trying. so we're trying, and i hope that in a few days, we can say we had a little success, and from that success, everybody being comfortable that this is possible, we can build a bigger system to bring huge quantities of food daily into the shores of gaza. >> now, that aid has been off-loaded in gaza, and a second ship with more food and supplies is being prepared now. in our "meet the moment" conversation, i asked chef andrés about the crisis in gaza and whether israel should be doing more to help. >> should israel be doing more? totally. ceasefire should be happening immediately. the hostages should be released totally. where it is a little bit difficult to understand is how you are doing a mission to try to liberate your fellow citizens, but you are bombing at times building after building that you may have those hostages right in those buildings. so if the true intention of that is releasing the hostages, i will not say this is the most clever way to try to take them out alive. the very least if they don't stop the military advance to make sure that nobody's hungry and that nobody's without food and water. this is something that should be happening overnight, but for political reasons, i guess, it's not happening there. >> let's talk about the history of world central kitchen, the first major conflict zone war that you went into was in ukraine. what was that like and how did it prepare you for the work that you're doing now in gaza? >> well, i think you are never prepared. the more i know, the more i know nothing. with boots on the ground is when life shows you experience. many of the things was in the kitchen that we've ever done. it's not like you have a manual. you learn as you go. we were in the first -- we saw the atrocities that the russian military did to those men and women with people on the ground that were shot in the head, with a piece of bread next to their hand, for going out and trying to bring better bread to feed their children, people were being shot. we lost six people in three different bombings in the places they were sleeping, that they were in a bunker when the missile they dropped and sometimes there's nothing you can do. so this gave me an understanding and a feeling i never had before. >> are you worried that the world is starting to forget what is happening in ukraine and what is still happening in ukraine as there is so much focus, rightfully so, on the war in the middle east right now? >> obviously, ukraine has been forgotten, and this conflict has made that even worse. ukraine is a country that is defending themselves. i'm not a man of war. i am a man of peace, but they are defending their land. if they don't defend their land, they have no land left. so it's very different when you are attacked and you're defending yourself. united states should be doing far away more. europe should be doing far away more. these people have shown that they know how to defend themselves, and they're alone and forgotten. i do believe that if we don't stand to leaders that want to bring mayhem and chaos to the world, the world is not a boater place. >> are you afraid? >> i don't think -- you are always afraid, but you are next to people that support each other and even if we're all afraid, what are you going to do? by being conscious, almost, it's like it disappears. >> your new cookbook named after this new restaurant, zaytinya, focuses on mediterranean food. focus on the significance of that and what you hope people will take away from this new cookbook that you have. . >> you know, especially after what's happening in the middle east now, everybody has a huge love for food especially now in ramadan, the families are coming together to break fast and it being a very important moment, but the time i spent in israel, the time i've been spending in gaza seems everybody loves falafel and everybody loves hummus with the same intensity. i always wonder how people that love the same foods can be at odds with each other. right here in this restaurant i have longer tables. when you bring people together around a table with the foods they love, that's a beautiful, powerful moment. i wish my words were not used romantic words as everybody would agree with that food could be an amazing, powerful medium used to bring people together, but it is true. "zaytinya" celebrates hundreds if not thousands of years of traditions and dishes that different cultures that everybody has added their touch, that makes the mediterranean cooking in the east fascinating. >> and just finally, given that you are immersed in all of this difficult work in all of these places that are experiencing so much pain and violence right now, what gives you hope and optimism? >> listen, the hope and optimism i have is that in the early days -- on the first day of the brutal attack against different israeli communities, the feeling began right there. and with the help of locals, not only israeli but other nationalities, not only jewish, but other people from other religions, they're all coming together to bring food and relief to those people that were decimated on that brutal attack. at the same time, so there i saw people helping people. the best humanity and the worst moments of humanity. nobody should be wishing bad to others. breaking bread with people in gaza and breaking bread with people in israel, that's the feeling you get that they don't wish the others anything wrong, that everybody wants peace and prosperity because i do believe it's what the vast majority of the people want. we need to give those people the place at the table, and their voices must be heard because there's more people of good than people of mayhem. let's give the table to the people of goodness. >> powerful message there. and you can watch my full interview with jose andres at meetthepress.com. his new cookbook "zaytinya" is out march 19th, and andrés will be on the "today" show on tuesday, so be sure to tune in. before we go, we'd like to give a final mention to betty cole dukert, former executive producer of "meet the press" who passed away saturday at the age of 96. she was a producer with the show for 41 years starting as an assistant to lawrence spivak in 1956. she was a cherished member of "the meet the press" family and she will be sorely missed. that is all for today. thank you so much for watching. we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." if this election -- if this election isn't won, i'm not sure that you'll ever have another election in this country. does that make sense i

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