November. He saluted January 6th Insurrectionist and said some undocumented immigrants are not people. The biden Campaigns Communications director, michael taylor, is standing by with his reaction to all of it. Plus, fani willis gets to stay on the case in georgia but the drama heats up and trump appointed judge Aileen Cannon continues to slow things down in georgia. Plus, it is election day in russia, which means it is the perfect time to talk about brandnew reporting on the former president s affinity for dictators. Jim shooter thanks man what he discovered on trumps private comments about some of the worst actors in the world. We were planning to start the show on all of the delays on the legal cases and there are a lot. We will spend time on that with legal experts in a little bit but then late yesterday afternoon, donald trump spoke at a rally in ohio and we decided we have to start here. We are going to put a 100 tariff on every single car that comes across the line and youre not going to be able to sell those cars. If i get elected. Now if i dont get elected is going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it but theyre not going to sell those cars. Its going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. The trump team quickly said last night nothing to see here. He was just talking about the Auto Industry. Consider the full context, everyone. Otherwise it is irresponsible. If they want us to consider the full context, lets do just that because the full context is that trump kicks off the same exact rally by saluting the people convicted for the deadly assault on january 6 all to the tune of a National Anthem sung by a choir of imprisoned insurrectionist. The full context is that trump was thinking those writers and calling them great patriots. The full context is that he also said in the same rally quote, if this election is not won, im not sure they will have another election in this country. The full context is that he went on to say some undocumented immigrants are not people in the full context is that this is much bigger than one single speech. This embrace of Political Violence, this dehumanizing language, this is what donald trump has been preaching for years. Last year he echoed the dehumanizing language of adolf hitler, comparing his political opponents to vermin insane immigrants are quote, poisoning the blood of our country. Last month he said there would be potential death and destruction if he was charged in a Manhattan Criminal Probe and during his first term he refused to condemn Political Violence of a White Nationalist rally in charlottesville, virginia, saying there were very fine people on both sides. In 2020 he reportedly asked his Defense Secretary about people protesting the death of george floyd saying, cant you just shoot them . Just shoot them in the legs or something, and of course, his very words inspired violence on january 6, 2021, when he told a crowd of his supporters to walk down to the capital and fight like because quote, we will never take back our country with weakness. Trust me, i could go on and on and on. We all know by now that trumps allusions to Political Violence are not really rhetorical. His supporters take them literally and that is part of the big problem here and he knows that, too, so no, we did not miss the full context. This is not some meandering off message comment. This is his message. As the Biden Campaign put it, this is who donald trump is, a loser who gets beat by over 7 million votes and then instead of appealing to a wider mainstream audience, doubles down on his threats with Political Violence. Joining me now from the biden Campaigns Communications director michael tyler. Thank you so much. I know we called you this morning and asked you to talk about this. I appreciate you taking the time. Your statement from the campaign makes very clear it was not in your name, but makes very clear what the campaign was thinking but when you heard the full context and saw those comments at that rally, what did you hear . Well, thank you for having me. What i heard was a continuation of the same rhetoric, the same endorsement of Political Violence weve seen from donald trump for years, as he pointed out. It goes even farther back. This is the same guy, who after marched On Charlottesville and killed a woman, said they were very fine people on both sides. It is the same guy who in 2020 told a White Supremacist Group to stand back and stand by it now, every single day on the stump he is championing and praising insurrectionist who he encouraged to violently storm the capital in an attempt to overthrow democracy. It is not exactly one comment. It is exactly who donald trump is and it is exactly the threat he poses to democracy everything all day. The problem for trump, though, is that that people saw what happened on january 6 and they responded consistently since. They responded in 2022 when democrats have the most successful midterm cycle for democratic incumbents since fdr. They continued to respond last year and they are continuing to respond right now. That is why we are on our front foot, heading into the selection, because the American People understand what joe biden has done to fight on the half of American People, but they see every single day now, the threat donald trump poses if he is able to regain power. He is talking every day about tearing down the fabric of our democracy and enacting political revenge if he is able to serve as a dictator on day one, as he is promising to do. The American People are smart. They have been watching him use this writer consistently for months and years. The trumps teams claim, which clearly i dont buy into, is that this is all in the context of a riff on the Auto Industry which doesnt even make sense, but i want to ask you what your thoughts are on that, and that claim. I think the claim is nonsense, again, because this is a guy who every single day is talking about enacting political revenge, who every single day is praising political rivals we saw in 2020 so the idea that theyre going to be able to spin their way out of this today is ridiculous because every single day, donald trump is promoting and endorsing and encouraging Political Violence on the stump. It is dangerous, but it is unpopular and the American People continue to reject it so we are confident if we continue to contrast the violence, the danger, the chaos, the division donald trump is preaching every single day on the stump against joe biden and kamala harris, whose positive vision is for bringing americans together in pursuit of progress, we are going to be successful. It is dangerous but we have confidence in the decency of the American People to reject the extremism we see from donald trump. I will also note the same people saying this is out of context have not condemned the other dozens of times hes made comments that prompt Political Violence. Let me ask you, the president has been very vocal, forceful. Is been doing it for years. The president has been forceful out there, so forceful that the rightwings theory now is that he owned his is on drugs, which is crazy but is been very forceful in calling out trumps language. Should we expect to see him address this specifically out on the trail . Yes. I think you actually heard the president say it going back to the State Of The Union before trumps latest comments. He said that Political Violence should never be acceptable in the United States of america so hes going to continue to do that. Weve been carrying the same message forward since the State Of The Union with an aggressive schedule. The president is headed out west to nevada and arizona this coming week where he is going to continue to contrast these two fundamentally different visions for where we want to take this country. The president himself is talking about continuing to build on his historic record of accomplishment, jobs, lowering costs and delivering for the American People and contrasting that against the chaos and violence endorsed by donald trump if he manages to gain power so thats going to be the contrast the president continues to talk about and will continue to provide to the American People from now until november. Sounds like we may hear more from him on this, no question. Former Vice President mike pence, former President Trumps Vice President , announced he would not be endorsing donald trump. Just today he said trump calling January 6th Insurrectionist hostages is unacceptable. I think it is important to point out that mike pences comments are simply the latest in a litany of the people who knew donald trump closest when he was in power in the oval office, so whether it was mike pence or bill barr or john kelly, these are the people who worked with him every single day and know that he does not have the temperament, no he does not have the judgment, know that he does not have the values to ever step foot in the over oval office ever again i think it also speaks to the continued problem former President Trump has given his inability to expand his appeal beyond the hardcore maga base. Look at nikki haley in certain states for trump continues to struggle in key suburban counties that are going to be crucial toward the pathway to 270 electoral votes a message as a campaign is that if you share the same concerns as these people do, who understand the threat he poses to progress, that there is a home for all of you and joe bidens campaign, we are encouraging folks to go to joe biden. Com and sign up. Its going to take all of us to defeat donald trump once again in november. I know you and everybody is working so hard. Thank you so much for calling all of us out this morning. Really appreciate your time. Coming up next, from new york to florida to georgia, the delays in Donald Trumps criminal cases are piling up. Two of the best legal minds are standing by to talk through the moving timelines. My guess is that Melissa Murray and Andrew Weissmann will have a lot to say about the latest developments. We are back after a quick break. Only pay for what you need. 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Fani willis should not be disqualified because there was no actual Conflict Of Interest brought about by her relationship with another prosecutor on the case, nathan wade. He said willis could stay on the case as long as wade resigned which is exactly what he did, but the judge did not exactly mince words, either, describing their relationship as having a quote, significant appearance of impropriety but this doesnt make any of it fair at all. We are operating in a world where this former president uses the courtroom and any wrinkle to his advantage in the public forum. He is simply playing by a different set of rules. He is constantly pushing the legals of our legal system. To win in this world, you have to be pretty perfect and what we saw in florida, manhattan, and georgia this week is that the system and all of its participants from judge Aileen Cannon in florida to the prosecutors in florida to the georgia to the d. A. Document dump have not been perfect that is. Joining us now is Melissa Murray and Andrew Weissmann. They are the coauthors of the brandon number one New York Times best seller, the trump indictments. I have it here with me, the historic charging documents with commentary. What a great, great book. There is so much i want to talk to you about, and trump said some crazy things. We dont have as much time with you as we normally would like to. Andrew, you said Nathan Wade First resigned which means that fani willis can stay on the case. You said that she should recuse herself. Tell me more about why you think that. Sure. I think one thing that is important to note is what the judge said about this conflict, which is that the defendants, in this case, were not prejudiced and are not prejudiced at all, meaning he really separated of the conflict issue from anything the defendants can really complain about and its important to remember that because these are really two different stories, but unfortunately, one affects the timing of the other. My biggest concern is not that fani willis needs to or is required to recuse herself. I was trying to figure out, where is this going to go from here. The judge basically invited the parties, the defense, to file all sorts of ethics grievances, so i just dont think weve heard the end of this, and that there will be other forms where this is going to be raised. I think its also going to be raised or they will try to raise it on appeal, so i was really trying to put myself in her shoes and think about what to do so you dont become a lightning rod, so you do what is in the best interest of the case. Again, it is not required and does not have any prejudice to the defendants but i was trying to think of what was best for the case, and so that is the way i thought one way was to do this was to have her simply saying someone else will oversee this. You know, over this is not fair, as i said, in the outset here, but this is such an important case because trump cant delay it if he were to be elected. Melissa, let me ask you the same question. If you are fani willis, what should you be doing here . I think this may be one of the few places where andrew and i have a slight disagreement. I think it was always going to be the case that fani willis would be targeted here. The effort to disqualify her was precipitated by a broader effort by gop people in georgia to limit her discretion as prosecutor so shes been a target for a long time and she will continue to be a target. Whether or not she stays on this case, theyre coming after her and as a black woman in that elected position where she is supposed to represent the people of Fulton County she has to see this case through and she has the expertise to do so so again, i think there is chum in the water certainly and shes going to be a target Going Forward but because there is no actual Conflict Of Interest here i think she should stay on. Disagreement is healthy, by the way. Lets talk about your book. Let me start with you, and are, because we are clearly seen of course, in all of these cases, judge Aileen Cannon and the Supreme Court are slow walking things. There is no trial date in georgia. The manhattan cases delayed. In your book, the trump indictments, you write about other countries who are able to bring the former leaders to justice like in france, italy, and argentina. When we think of our judicial system is the best. Why are we seemingly unable to do this . We have a former president who is facing 88 felony counts, and so he is now attacking the judicial system the way he has attacked the media, he has attacked prosecutors, he has attacked people in congress, so this is the the next check and balance he is attacking. As you pointed out in your first segment, he is now saying i am all for criminals, and we should release them and thats wha