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Handful of swing states, its potentially those specific voters who will decide who wince. But maybe a better question to ask, who is the voter who voted for donald trump in 2020 but does not want to vote for him again in 2024. The New York Times and nbc have identified a batch of these very voters as have election pac Republican Voters against trump. Heres what some of them have to say. For the first time in over 50 year of voting in president ial elections, i will not vote republican. Im a twotime trump voter. Donald trump has shown that he has no regard for the laws of this country. Biden may not have policy that i agree with, but i know that democracy will be saved under biden. I voted for trump in the past elections. I cannot do it now. Trump is a gutless coward. Who would last five minutes in a combat zone. His character does not suit the presidency. I will no longer be voting for President Trump. Because trump wants to act like a dictator. At first listen, it sounds like great news for President Biden, but not entirely. Being tired of trump or even disgusted by him doesnt guarantee a vote for joe biden. Although you did hear one voter say they will be voting for joe biden. Listen to these voters from North Carolina who spoke to nbc news. Trump, i dont want to go through another four years of his make America Great again. Because america was not great. I dont want to go through another four years of biden being indecisive as to what hes going to do. The price of housing, food, gas, everything is constantly going up. I have never not voted. So if i didnt, this would be my first time. But, i mean, this is as close as we never voting before ever. I am more favorable of trumps track record. I voted for trump in 2020. We werent at war. We didnt have a lot of the issues we have now. So, im for that. So, yeah. But like i said, if biden makes drastic changes, you know, you know, i could vote for him. You got a mix there. All of this brings me back to my big question which might need to be amended yet again given what we saw. Something like who was the voter who voted in 2020 who doesnt want to vote at all in 2024 . Joining us now in milwaukee, nbc news shaquille brewster, Steve Patterson and michelle alcindor. And weve got a wide variety of states and voters, aneesh, i want to start with you, you talked to those everything voters in North Carolina. What was your takeaway . Thats right, this is a group of 14 black voters in North Carolina who told us theyre not looking forward to a rematch between President Biden and former President Trump. They, frankly, dont like either candidate. President biden has massively outperformed trump among black voters but they tell us its political mumbo jumbo. Others say if the economic numbers have improved on paper. People are still struggling to pay for groceries and to buy a home. Still, these voters are not going to be easily swayed to vote for former President Trump. Most of them think biden is better for working class people than trump, take a listen. To say that and why is biden better for Working Class Americans than trump . Why . Trump is giving all his buddies a tax break, you know. So, i mean, its not really helps us out. Nakia, why would you say biden . I was going to say the same as jerome. Hes helping more of the upper class people. I feel like when he does help the lower, you know, workingclass people, theres an offset. He might help us now, but its going to hurt us later on. Now, these voters also brought up that trump has said he believes black people will like him more than biden because of his indictments and mug shot. These voters called those statements racist, thats a quote. So hard its going to be very hard for him to make inroads there. Heres the one thing thats going to worry President Biden. 12 people in this focus group said they voted for biden in 2020. Nine say they will vote for him again. In a tight race, a swing state, like North Carolina, those margins are going to matter because biden wants to grow those numbers. Are you hearing from rfk, yamiche. Im not heard anybody who has said theyre buying supporters of rfk jr. Two or three of those voters who voted for biden, thats really bad news for biden or bad news for trump, for people who voted for trump. Steve, lets talk about nevada. Because nevada was the last state to get counted. And there was a lot of drama there in 2020. What are you hearing today . A lot of people in the middle. And not people who are just in the middle to be in the middle. But who live in the middle. Who love being in the middle. Theyre nonpartisan by choice. The mayor of reno is a nonpartisan. People here are not only undecided, theyre proud of being undecided. They have decided essentially, they havent heard enough from the candidates to sway them one way or the other. Theyre wanting, theyre waiting to hear more. These are folks that are not necessarily going to vote the party line because its socially acceptable. Theyre going to join the party because its social a acceptable. There are more nonpartisans in this is state than republicans. In this county where i am, they will vote, and we talked Toological You sway one or way or. How is america now that trump is there. How is america now that biden is there . Im lean towards trump. I think both president ial options right now arent behaving appropriately. How so . What do you mean arent behaving appropriately . Theyre attacking each other, constantly, and not talking about what they want to do without the rhetoric. Are you waiting to be swayed One Way Or Another in november . I would fit more along the lines of a nonpartisan independent, yes. Are you takening a certain way at this point . No. No so, weve been speaking to parties on both sides of the Washaw County Biden trump, to see what the play is, both say they will ramp up in a big way specifically in northern nevada. Thats something that is kind of generating as it goes with the switch to the general election. Lets go to georgia. Blaine, georgia a state that went to joe biden in 2020. What are voters telling you there today . You know, katy, its interesting we heard from voters in Fulton County which is a heavy blue area but then in the suburbs which is what democrats and republicans are eyeing closely. Over the past 24 hours, i spent a lot of time talking to democrats and those organizers. The ones that played a really large part in turning out the black vote in 2020 that helped flip this state for joe biden. Theyre saying, quite frankly, theyre bracing for a tough fightade. And recognize and acknowledge the set of circumstances that led to georgia blue in 2020 was unique. Youre talking about a pandemic. None of those things are factors this time around. Theyre having to approach voters particularly, especially voters that arent particularly excited for the candidate at the top of the ticket. Heres what were hearing from voters, take a look. Trying to fix the country and economy. Well, its weird, i heard sound there for a second. Apparently we dont have it to play. We dont have it. Okay. I will paraphrase that from voters if you like. Ill tell you, so basically, what were hearing, again, nobody is too excited about who is at the top of their ticket, but theyre talking about the issues that are important. There are a number of women in the suburbs which is the coveted area that say trump has to win back women like us. She voted twice to trump. She gave money to him. After january 6th, shes done with the process. She actually cast an early ballot for nikki haley. If they want the votes they have to win back candidates like her. Democrats are encouraged saying those people are up for grabs, those are the folks theyre trying to pull into their camp. As one democratic strategist told me the single most influential factor in their arsenal is that donald trump is on the ticket. Are you hearing from voters who dont want to vote at all . You know, i actually heard from a couple. A couple who will say they are weighing it. They havent given me a definitive no. Two people told me they voted for biden in 2020 and now going for a 30party candidate. And certainly, the israel hamas war thats a big deal. Hes calling for a ceasefire there. Hes turned by the way biden is handling that. And the other person told me its simply time for Somebody Else other than in her words old men at the top of the ticket. Shes not compelled by either one of them. Wisconsin is interesting because theyve had a lot of state see elections. And the Democratic Party has said they basically have never stopped working since 2020 there. Do voters there feel that . Is the climate better suited for joe biden this time around . Theres definitely a lag that we talk about there, katy. The president is coming here. Hes touting infrastructure. You might see it in the signs behind me. Hes announcing 3. 3 billion in investments for communities nationwide, including about 36 million for milwaukee, targeting black and brown neighborhoods in this city. You talk about the lag, this is a president buying to close the gap there. Hes talking about the Inflation Act and the infrastructure law. You see the gap and how voters are feeling. I want you to listen to what some of them told me, to get a better sense. Trying to fix the country and economy and all of these wars that are going on and build the wall like everybody is saying, its not just us, like i said, im independent, and people are concerned now with the drug flow thats coming in the fentanyl. American people are dying right and left. People that are coming in from other countries are dying. I would just like him to be maybe more assertive. And i think hes done everything he can possibly do to work with the republicans. I dont know that biden can do much else. I think we really need to change our legislators on boths sides of the aisle. Some of them are so old. Reporter this is the president trying to rally, trying to mobilize people who, largely, already support him by saying, hey, this is what ive been doing for the past four years. This is how its going to impact you. But theres that lag that we continue to hear with voter after voter and how theyre actually feeling it. Whether or not that will drive them in november. Shaq brewster, Steve Patterson, as well. Donald trump is facing 88 criminal accounts. Only 88. Judge mcafee in georgia just dropped some of them. What he said and what it tells us about his pending, you might say looming, ruling on d. A. Fan fani willis. 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All eyes on the Fulton County courthouse today as folks wonder if judge scott mcafee right there might make his decision on fani willis today. Will he disqualify her and her os or keep the case against donald trump . Hes got in friday. Judge mcafee it ruling on a part of the case today, throwing out six charges including one surrounding that infamous phone call from trump to Georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger where trump asked him to find joining us, lisa rubin. What did he throw . A weapon to former President Trump, there were three counts against him that were thrown out today. All involved phone calls that he made to either David Ralston who is a former Georgia House speaker or to Brad Raffensperger asking them to interfere with or overturn the election in some way, shape or form. What the judge is saying here is, i have more than sufficient allegations that the defendants did something wrong. But by alleging that they solicited Somebody Else to violate their oath, youve got to tell me more than they violated third oath, which incorporates a willingness, and a responsibility to defend and protect the constitution of georgia. And the united states. Theres a lot of room in those constitution s, youve got to be specific. Tell me how they would have violated the office. If they had done what the defendants said they had done. Its kind of an easy thing for fani willis to clean up if she so chooses . It is, katy, but they could have to get together a grand jury. He has all of the evidence at they are disposal already, but they would have to develop a legal theory here that is air tight enough for further dismissal. You get one bite at the apple. Is this a big deal . No, its not a big deal. Is it sloppy . It is a little sloppy, particularly if all of the cases that judge mcafee cites here are wellknown in the georgia law. Hes basically saying, hey, you knew that something is alleged and you got to be specific about the ways in which they did that. There are cases in georgia that stand for that. The rico charge still stands . Yeah. Its not a very big deal, this case is by no means getting thrown out . No. But the judge has to yet to decide whether to disqualify fani willis. First i thought why would he clean up the case and take it away from her, but then i thought, maybe hes cleaning up the case to give to Somebody Else . Thats exactly what i thought. This reads like judicial house keeping. This was not the only motion to dismiss on judge mcafees stack of papers. Its called a special demur, because it has to be conducted only by reindictment. The allegation is youre not being specific enough in federal court to provide that to the defendant. He knows in a footnote here, its a weird bug of georgia law that you cant just correct through that. That its enough. You got to get the grand jury. 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Now a bill that could effectively ban tiktok or force its sale is on its way to the senate. After the house passed it 352 to 65. Joining us punchbowl news cofounder and msnbc contributor jake sherman. The margin on that is striking in itself. You rarely get all of those democrats and republicans to agree on something, what happened today . Reporter well, katy, its kind of a horseshoe, you had people on the far right opposed and even some in the far right for the bill. As it comes out of chamber, as we talk about all the time, katy, with 350 votes. So it should put pressure on the senate to act. And what happened here, this is something that Members Of Congress have been talking about for a long time. Ive long maintained that few things unify congress besides a fear of and clamping down on china. Thats what you saw here. It didnt hurt that number one, the bind, intelligence officials were up here this week briefing the House Of Representatives about the danger in tiktok. What they see as the danger of tiktok. Came out of the committee 50 to nothing, that is incredibly, incredibly rare. The question is what does the senate do with it . Senate minute towards leader Chuck Schumer is reviewing it. And weve seen the senate pass ukraine, israel and taiwan aid with 70 votes. It came over here and got no action. So a large vote total doesnt necessarily precede action. In this case, you have mark warner, marco rubio, top democrat and republican in favor, probably a lot of pressure in the senate. So what happens if the Senate Passes it and it gets sign by President Biden does the app just disappear from peoples phones . Reporter no, 180, bytedance has to invest in the app, 20 . And it needs an owner. Effectively, it needs an owner. Katy, i cant tell you the number of people that have come up to me over the last year or so expressing just complete panic about tiktok. People in the intelligence community, people with access to the kind of intelligence about what tiktok allegedly, again, i dont have first hand knowledge, but allegedly does. She say basically, everyone who has tiktok has spy ware on their phones. They are spying on us, theyre looking at everything we do. No first hand knowledge. But Members Of Congress are freaked out. They wouldhave 180 days to sell the app. Some opponents say that would not be enough time. But after that 180day period, its lights out for tiktok. I dont have it on my phone. To have all that information, i think its nuts. Im speaking to my team, many of whom have it on your phones, i think youre aside. This is hunter biden saying hes not going to play ball with House Republicans any longer. Whats happening . Reporter so, he didnt exactly say that precisely. He effectively said that, he said he would perhaps come up with another hearing for the House Oversight committee if the House Oversight hearing held a corresponding hearing on Donald Trumps children. That is basically a finger to the committee. And transcript was released. He and his lawyer abbe lowell think theyve given overarching time. And katy, we wrote about this, this morning, his Impeachment Inquiry is just about at the end of its rope. They have not had any evidence of impeachable offenses. People are getting fed up. They have no idea what the end game or where the impeachment is heading. At some point, its going to run out, they either have to move or drop it altogether or peter out. And let it drop from consciousness of Members Of Congress and the american public. They have really nothing to impeach the president for at this point. Jake sherman, that family that was walking back and forth behind you, tell them we saw them and say hi back. Maybe give them my rant on tiktok. Im getting hate mail internally from my own staff here at msnbc, i can feel it. Jake sherman, thank you very much. Reporter thank you. And new reporting reveals engineers had warneded Alaska Airlines to grab the boeing max 9 jet hours before the door plug blew out in january, midflight. Alaska airlines confirmed the plane was scheduled for maintenance check that night. Joining me now, nbc news Senior Correspondent tom costello. Tom, bring us up to speed. Reporter bottom line, engineers had been concerned about pressurization lights going out in the cockpit days before the blowout of that max 9. They had pushed to take the plane out of service, the airline opted, instead, to keep flying the plane three more trips so it would end in portland where it has a maintenance space. On the last two trips is when the door plug actually blew out. Thankfully, nobody injured but obviously that raises the question why would alaska allow the plane to keep flying. Alaska tells nbc news, by the way, its confident in its Maintenance Procedures that were followed leading up to this incident and its cooperating fully. However, now its not just boeing, theyre very much in the hot seat, the alaska also about its decision to keep flying on that evening of january 5th. Let me also ask you about the ntsb, tom. Its chief has sent a scathing letter, Scathing Wlert to boeing, saying theyre being uncooperative in this investigation. Reporter thats correct, the ntsb is investigating what happened, why the plug blew out. All of the procedures that led up to it. Heres what the ntsb chief is saying shes written to Members Of Congress today. She said the following we still dont know who performed the work to open and reinstall the door plug on this Accident Aircraft on the assembly line. Boeing, she says has informed us but they are unable to find the records documenting this work. Bottom line iss in super bowl, two months later, still does not know who performed the work. Boeing, she says, does not have any documentation on that and will not provide the names of people who might have done the work. As a result, she says, thats hampered the ntsb investigation. Not to be confused with the faa investigation which is really focusing on the systematic breakdown and Quality Control procedures within boeing, 33 of 89 audits boeing failed, according to the faa, and so boeing is facing it from all sides, the ntsb, the faa and a Justice Department criminal probe as well. Tom costello, thank you very much. Still ahead, after an mystery illness and altered photo, everyone is asking what is going on with princess kate . First, is it a Collegial Court or one thats bittering divided along political lines . Whats really going on Behind Closed Doors at the Supreme Court . Were talking about cashbackin. Were talking about cashbackin. Were not talking about practice . 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Even if inside youre frustrated or hot under the collar, as you put it, you dont express that in the Conference Room which makes it easier when you go back, you know, to your chambers and go to meet at lunch, youre not hearing over something negative. You dont feel guilty about looking someone across the lunch table, we have assigned seats at lunch, Justice Sonia sotomayor and i sit across from one another. Basically, youre describing the rules of a really good preschool. Thats not to say, people are passionate, there are issues that do that are important to people in a more visceral way. But in the presentation, you can see that. And occasionally, someone might come close to something that could be viewed as hurtful. Its happened in my experience a few times. Generally, one of our senior colleagues will call the person who was perceived to maybe have gotten a little close, and tell them, maybe you should think of an apology. Joining us now, the New York Times Supreme Court reporter adam liptak. So, who do you think had to apologize to her . Well, i dont know what they were talking about, the recent incident, but that was a very striking statement that Justice Barrett made in last weeks decision on whether donald trump is eligible to be on the ballot in colorado and around the nation. So it comes in that context, what Justice Barrett gave, the party line, always collegial, never raise their voices in candor. I thought we had more coming from sonia sotomayor, saying certainly in their deliberations and certainly, some of the sharp things they wrote about each other in their opinions it can be crossing the line and can make for personal difficulties. Amy Coney Barrett said this is a really transparent court, you understand their deliberations because youre able to read their decisions. But at the same time, she does acknowledge there is a lot out there that is not public that makes that the relationships that the justices have with each, so much to say how we live our lives in this country, it makes it all the more curious. What can you tell us, in your reporting, about what its really like at the Supreme Court . I think its very formal, very stylized, very ritualistic. As Justice Barrett said, its like being in an arranged marriage with no possibility of divorce. You dont want to get crossways with people needlessly. You may have lost your vote in this one, but may need their vote in the next one. And there are conferences describing it sort of formal, and they ever and the conference, they do almost all of their communications in writing. Partly because the cases are complicated enough you need to see it on paper. But also partly because they need a buffer from each other, to make sure in these sharply divided cases, theyre not going to make permanent enemies. They are a deliberative body, though, and it makes you wonder if there is enough of a relationship among the justices to find common ground, to find compromise on some of these extraordinarily controversial and political decisions. A lot that go against public opinion, the majority of the publics desires. Is there a sense of these people can work together, beyond just heres what i think, heres what i i think, and thats the way it is . You know, depends who you are talking about, there is, of course, a 63 court, 6 republican appointees, and controls a lot of the decisionmaking and they feel theres no need for compromise. At the same time, there is a relatively speaking, still conserative soft middle to the court. Chief justice and justices barrett and kavanaugh, that will find ways to make cases. So it depends on the case or the coalition, but they will say that they try. Is this a functional body . Some may say too functional. They are achieving the things that conservatively the movement wants to achieve. Theyve won the table on a lot of cases on abortion, guns and affirmative action. So its functional in that sense. Do they get along in the shadow of that kind of division, thats open to question. Adam liptak, really good to have you. Thank you very much. Coming up who voters dont want donald trump to pick for vp, and what it says for trouble ahead for voters. By voters, maralago. And what is stirring up questions and the question of the royal family and the institution of it in the uk. I got the power of 3. I lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. In studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. Im under 7. Ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. Im lowering my risk. Adults lost up to 14 pounds. I lost some weight. Ozempic® isnt for people with type 1 diabetes. 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What is happening here, seems like whatever is happening behind the scenes could be easily dispelled by a current photo of kate, one that hasnt been manipulated or just like an instagram live, hi, im here, im fine. Yeah, great question. I dont think its the fracturing of the monarchy, its true theres a frenzy around the story. But what youre also dealing with is a Palace Press Office which is fighting against the tabloids and the paparazzi. The paparazzi have actually played fair during this and let kate alone. But what, of course, has happened is that people have taken to social media. And thats much how this is controlled. So youve got this Palace Press Office thats fighting the battle. Social media Out Of Control and a center that is relatively a woman who is clearly quite ill and doesnt want to be bothered. Whats frustrating kate is the master of handling the media. Shes incredibly fresh, she does a really good job as being the wife to the heir to the throne. So its what is going on, and it suggests there may be cracks between her and william. But i dont think by any means this is the end of kate. Let me ask you about that, what you have now is the king who is currently dealing with his own bout of cancer, were unclear how serious it is. Hes been out of The Public Eye can i yes. Can i, just with the Palace Press Office handling something badly. Imagine if i called you and said, ive got bad news, ive got cancer. What is the first question youd ask me, oh, no, what kind of cancer. Thats what they did to the british public. Kings got cancer, then were not going to tell you what kind of cancer, its absurd. And it creates a vacuum that people immediately need to fill. Well, if theres such a frenzy and so many rumors along whats happening with the institution, does it is not create doubt about the institutions ability to lead the country . Elizabeth ii was stoic, she had bone cancer, right. When she was dying she was still appearing routinely in front of the british public. She was the symbol of the monarchy for the british public. Without her, without the steady presence, and not enjoying same popularity. Bit now a new generation of people growing older saying they dont love the institution itself, it feels out of date, does this at all eat into the legitimacy . Well, to be fair to king charles, i think hes actually much more popular than people expected. Hes always embraced the issues that are actually now important to genz and climate, in terms of eating from the table. Hes a very personal man. And within the first careers of his monarchy, he was diagnosed with cancer, again, its unclear, because weve not had enough information from the palace, whether or not its treatable, is it curable . What kind of cancer is it . So theres definitely a vacuum of information around that. William is very popular. Kate is very popular, were assuming that shell emerge from this illness and eventually, the two of them, you know, as this happened throughout the history of the royal family, william will ascend the throne. And i think people are fascinated by them. I mean, look how much effort people put in dressing up for the oscars, desperate to have their photos taken on sunday night, you know, wearing dresses that create all sorts of drama. Yet, it was a grainy photo of Kate Middleton being driven away by a driver with her husband in the back the city that actually caused the internet to break this week. I can feel some of my viewers screaming, whats the point of the institution. Im being told i have to leave the conversation here. Oh, to be continued. With americans fascinated. Ill leave that cliffhanger. Joanna coles, thank you very much. 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Now, this is in the context of what sources tell me is a really big focus for the former president. He saw what happened in 2022, some of the candidates that he endorsed. He was not happy with how they messaged on this issue. Sees it as a vulnerability for republicans in the general election. Wants to sort of pivot how folks talk about it. So he is weighing this issue, as hes speaking about a potential Vice President ial choice. Some of the folks around him, his advisers are cautioning him. Senator scott, some of them given recently how vocal about antiabortion issues. And kristi noem, given her state has an allout ban with no rape or incest. That is something that folks are generally concerned about. Ben carson on that list. Whats the word on ben carson . Reporter well, interestingly, ben carson is on the short list from what im hearing. But people feel that he was Wishy Washy On Abortion but was long enough ago that it wouldnt be easily exploited by democrats. 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