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movement led by sdon don. he is mon shod the 13 13 times. trump and the threat he thoses to our democracy here at home to our standing in the world looms large over every line of the speech. "new york times" describing the president's state of the union quote unleashed an unyielding. mr. biden seemed to relish the showdown. while he boasted his accomplishments as president's do, he made no aspiration to rhetorical flourishes. he men shod his utty agenda with no utty in it and he. we will not walk away biden said in his address we will not bow down. he was speaking go russia and he seemed to intend it for the fight for his own presidency. president biden came out swinging against donald trump and the gop in the speech that laid out in the bluntest terms the stakes in the upcoming election for our democracy and freedom at home and abroad. with us at the table board member analyst is here and national affairs analyst is here. the host of politics nation here, and the president of the national action network. i made a list of the first thing he talked about. first thing he mentioned is putin and nato and january 6 and political violence and political abortion. in 9010, 90% of americans do not approve of putin. numbers are lower in the republican party. january 6 among the public has high 60s and low 70s who don't approve what they saw. political violence is interesting the republican party 60% of republicans i think are high 50s think it can be acceptable in some situations. as a general issue another 60 or 70% of americans oppose political violence and he went to abortions the highest approval ratings. 63-70%. this was a speech designed to grab back the center of the country and this guy here you don't want to do that, folks. >> it's interesting because as unpopular in some ways as joe biden is, a lot of the concerns about his age have dominated the news cycle for months. but what he did last night was important. because he turns the tables and actually focused on the democratic agenda compared to the republican agenda. and the reality is that on the issues the democrats are winning on every issue. they have the agenda at the moment that represents many more americans. americans want gun control that is reasonable. americans don't want to have their rights taken away. they are against the overturning of roe vs. wade. and so down the line, the democrats have the more popular agenda. and so joe biden reminded americans of that last night. and he comes off as someone who is not a maniac. he said this is not about me. this is about you and american democracy and wooer's going to fight for tonight fight for the issues that you care about that will improve your lives. i think that is a winning message. compared to the doom and the gloom that we saw from republicans. and even their snickering last night, came off as cynical and small. and so i think. >> fired up biden. even if it hadn't come up for them, it just invigorated him. i was glad they were interactive he fed off it. and god, whatever they did juiced him for the next part of the speech. >> we saw a fighter and americans are looking for a fighter. >> i think democrats had to see that. but the other thing he needs to be doing this almost everyday. he needs to be out there much more and there is no reason for him not to be, bring it on. >> i don't know how many of the old adages hold, when i was on campaigns if you were an incumbent you need a choice. he laid out the choice as expertly as any incumbent president has ever, ever done ahead of a general election. >> that is right. and i don't want to -- i think the states of the union have a couple audiences. the audience which is the viewers and voters and that you can make a case on your agenda and make a case on choice versus the referendum issue. and those are effective if they are prosecuted over the course of kays and weeks and months into the future and the other audience the filter. us. and the mainstream media the identify logical partisan media, the washington democrats the insiders and republican insiders and those people had one thing they were looking at last night. none of the rest of this mattered. it had become a speech about joe biden capable of running doing this. and that's you can talk about why we got to that point but that was the thing. he was going to come out and people will are go okay he can do this or not. republicans made a huge mistake and the right-wing media who set the bar at he is a korms corpse the guy is not competent anymore. the bar was set low and not only did biden clear that low bar and soared above it in terms of the energy, the aggression, the aggressiveness, the prosecutorial nature and speed of it. did he stumble a few times? yes. it makes the point we should be doing this all the time. nobody is talking about the times he stuttered. it was like what you got was that new york post headline he is alive. and that is not a small thing in this moment where democrats are panicking republicans are licking their chops to walk home and have them go, okay, the idea the guy is just feeble and incapable and going to make an idiot of himself that for at least for the news cycle that is gone. and you can tell the reason you can tell it's the way the republicans decided to atax cut him he is talking too fast and yelling too loud nobody saying yesterday, nobody saying boy, joe biden looked old and feeble. did not hear that from the far right people. >> it was politically nimble. if you had been locked in space for the last 20 years and the last campaign was the mccain biden 2008 campaign and you plopd down yesterday you would not have known necessarily this was a democratic president. he started out quoting ronald reagan talking about the civil war and world war ii. he then went on, i thought it was an an aggressive move to use reagan's words against the people in the chamber saying tear down this wall. the guy says come on in. the plan which manafort championed was to give away to chunk up ukraine and give it away that was trump's policy what he was saying in private and in public. i thought that the moment that wasn't scripted not only did not hurt him but might have helped him. when he was confronted by marjorie taylor greene's stunt it was a moment that he handled it deftly. i think that it did all the things that you said it did to the filter and to democrats. but he is also speaking directly to nikki haley's supporters. >> i think that is correct. i think the nickty haley crowd and he spoke to soak of the constituents that he whats beginning to have polling lower in the democratic front. by not only -- >> a priority. >> which is the priority because of turnout. which is why, yes, he spoke to the issues at the top that are 90/10 and he circled back and reminded young voters who he did around college debt relief and was blocked and found a way to do it anyway. he talked to black voters this is the verse iry of bloodky sunday. i supported the john lewis voting rights bill and we need to vote it again. he went and got the edges after he had gotten what was in the middle. and i think that i agree that the bar was lowered in terms of saying he was a guy that couldn't function and the two things that was done, by him being able to handle marjorie taylor greene if i was on their side and a veteran protester i would not have given him that last night. consider the chamber that had been disrupted you are playing the script wrong. you wanted to act we are not that and she played right in the stereotype of what he said. that they desecrated this chamber. and he handled it well which showed he was alert and anything but old. the other thing that people are missing he was almost the last person to leave the chamber. everybody else was running to go to bed. he was how is your wife? he blew it out of the water. >> the speaker gavelled the chamber shut it down because close to midnight biden is still there and democrats were overjoyed and they started to turn the lights. like when you are in a party and they flash the lights. go home. >> push him down the aisle to make him go. he was talking to everybody. this is not a guy that is tired and old and can't make it. >> to your point and you know with what this is like doing the state of union. how many times did you tell george w. bush does add libs. it doesn't matter. state of the union is a scripted speech. >> correct. >> and two dozen -- and they were scripted off script moments he was looking for opportunities to engage with republicans on the floor like it was question time in the british parliament he was looking to he had these things this is where i'm going to hold their feet to the fire. and when they make a noise i will hit back. i thought quite again to your point, the notion that he not only showed that he had energy but that is like a high wire act, man. when you start on live television at this level that is a high wire act for any politician and he handled it fine. >> he handled it fine because it's more comfortable for him. he is more of a prime minister questioning kind of political than he is a telethon. >> and a creature of that chamber someone who is comfortable in that room. >> right. i hope there's something there about otr's and i know jen sake was saying he loved it when members were on air force one. most presidents [ inaudible ] that is not something you would say about many presidents. i mean, the other thing is my shift ended at the end of the speech when he was half an hour later you've got to be kidding me they should -- and they were not all democrats. he was juiced by the republicans that he has known a long time. i want to say something that i was watching. you can get pulled down a rabbit hole. i was trying to watch the republicans there was something tragic about i was gone for four months, mike johnson the speaker, mike johnson's face and posture and lindsey graham like he was watching he was like there he is. he was like a chuckle and a look of he was truly entertained and amused. so see the republicans and i don't think capitulate you can tell from their faces they were back to attacking him by the 11:00 p.m. hour. but in the moment, it was clear that everybody knew this was a good speech and a good moment for the president. >> they also know that many of them are engaged in lying daily. they are sitting there thinking yeah, he is speaking the truth we are not going to say that. we are not going to sit there like children snickering and langford is sitting there. >> it's true. >> it's true. as president biden talks about the immigration bill that he worked for months to secure the most conservative bill in years that the republicans are now yearing. the surrealness of that moment. and reminded me of that moment years ago when i think it was joe wilson saying to barack obama you lie, this was almost an inversion of that. you have langford saying it's true. and so i don't know. >> speaks the truth. >> speaks the truth. >> occasionally in aan nba game you will see one team beating another team by a lot and you will see the other team when like lebron james does a dunk the other team will like like to be applauding like we're not going to win right now wow that was an incredible dunk. but, with lindsey graham it was like this is not the night not our night this is his night he beat us we'll get him tomorrow but there was that appreciative sense we'll fight it tomorrow not today. >> primetime weekend continues ahead with my colleague joy reid. . >> president biden called out maga republicans hailing the violent january 6th insurrection as heros. who are the real heros of that day? 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>> obviously i thought that the president's words were appropriate. i'm glad to see that his reelection team is starting to take the threat of democracy seriously. and that they are allotting appropriate time for the president to address that threat to the american people. unfortunately, i feel as though many of the institutions that are in place of this country to protect us from an insurrectionist like the former president, are failing us. or simply not in position to save us from ourselves. i think eventually it will come down to the american people at the ballot box voting to place president biden in office again and keep donald trump out of office. >> i think there is a consensus you are absolutely correct. harry we have had that same conversation. you worked in that space in that place. when i was watching it i did have an erie feeling seeing business done at the scene of the crime. i'm wondering 0 how you felt and what you thought? >> it can be on somebody, this is the first time in 15 years that i hadn't been working in a law enforcement capacity to sit down and and watch it. and the last segment you talked about the trump [ inaudible ] never surrender. he is a former law enforcement official. for him to say something about never surrender is gross to policing and law enforcement as it is. but i think the speech by president biden was right on the money and not letting people forget about what happened and that is part of the reason why i'm running for congress. harry dunn for congress.com. we need people to continue not just the president but it's great when the president does it and people to pushback against the lies that the are continually three years later spread about what happened that day. i applaud encouraged by the work that is being done. so many people are showing up and not letting this go away. michael testified last week before one of the weaponization committees and we need to continue to show up. like mike said, it's not about the institutions. but they are run by the people. and the supreme court with their ruling about colorado clearly shows that it's going to be on us american people to save democracy. >> primetime weekend continues amy colleague. -- with my colleague. .com. >> sin♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. okay y'all we got ten orders coming in... big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. only unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans with the chase ink business unlimited card. come with the ucard - one simple member card that opens doors where it matters for you. what if we need to see a doctor away from home? 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the answer for hard-working americans across the country is a resounding no. >> no. resounding yes. and it will be more of a resounding yes each day we go forward in this year. it is a resounding yes because we are not in confederate of covid with a negligent president. as of today, donald trump is the republican nominee for president. for all intents and purposes the general election begins now and trump's election strategy depends on red conning what happened four years ago. on annihilating 2020 from memory. and he is helped in that strategy by the fact that we all want to forget what a disaster 2020 was. because it was a disaster worsened in many ways by donald trump. that moment four years ago would be the beginning of the most incompetent mismanage of a crisis since hoover in the great depression a century ago. a year with chaos and turmoil illness and death, donald trump tweeted as the country burned. that is why, again, we all lived through this but let's go back there why joe biden won the 2020 election. the promise of the biden campaign was that the campaign would restore someone to leadership what who thinks about the country leadership. and who restored the economy by investing in working americans and rebuilding things from the middle out. and president biden successfully managed that roll out and a return to public life. our economy is stronger now than just about any expert predicted it would be before covid. that is thank to the stimulus spending on public infrastructure the white house ushered through congress on a bipartisan basis. as biden promised occurring that campaign. sometimes on a party line vote. republicans cannot run against that. so instead, they are trying a campaign slogan of make america 2019 again. listen to tim scott following trump's win last night. >> president trump spoke to the voters today across our country republicans, democrats and independents about the future we have to go back to that future, 2017 to 2020. >> nope. it's not a three-year term. trump was president from 2017-2021 not 2020. i promise you i was there. this is the whole game. donald trump republicans want you to chop a year off the end of trump's term. as if he gets the political mulligan for the catastrophe they want you to ignore the unemployment to the freezer trucks packed full of bodies. and they want you to ignore the months of 2020 when trump attempted the first coups culminating in the insurrection where he sicked a mob on the capitol. trump is now running to finish the job he started and if he is elected i will pick back up where he left off. he is not going to govern like it's 2019 he will govern like it's jab 7, 2021. with me tonight my good, good friends. host of the rachel show. i truly lost it when she said that i thought that are they really going to do this? and are they confident enough that they can pull off the are you better? it seems like obviously even if you don't blame trump for the pandemic are you better? we're all better off? >> even if donald trump had never been president, under joe biden right now you have the best job market since the 1960s. unploit below 4% and the best recovery in the world. more people with health insurance than before in american history. you have got violent crime at a low. if donald trump was still running as the former host of the apprentice telling people like the five years have been awful. is a weird sell to a country that is experiencing life under joe biden that has all of the right economic metrics. so i mean, you have to tell people don't remember 2020. i do think that covid walloped everyone. but i went back and looked at my coverage four years ago when i saw that you flagged this, and what i was talking about four years ago was mulvaney at c pac telling everybody the liberal media made up covid to make trump look bad. >> we can do that again. put him back in there. >> i feel like you hit on something that is not talked about enough, which is the way in which we as a country have not dealt with the trauma of covid. >> 100%. >> highest event in american life. who wants to go back to the fear and the death and groceries? >> classic response. >> i made a photo album of that year i was like i'm going to want to forget this and i need to remember we were masking outdoors. and in that same time, joe biden ran for president. we can't forget that. the lessons from that campaign are totally different lessons than the ones he needs to apply in this situation. i followed him i was on the campaign trail with joe biden. there were a lot of mediocre events and then none. >> that is a good point. >> he is not a great campaigner. he has been a really effective president. and the sort of dissidence needs to be reconciled in a year when he has to be kind of a better campaigner and he's got to do something that is incredibly complicated to get america to remember what life was like in the rearview. we are not good at that we are good at moving forward not asking questions about the past and not reconciling the sins and faults and go forward. >> and nikki haley's campaign one of the things she did was cut montages of trump time in trump's presidency to remind people what it was like. i did see haley do that. and that is something they can absolutely steal from her she tried to remind people about what the chaos presidency is like. >> instagram reels of trump's telling people to drink bleach and the cdc had their heads shaking her heads. it is the staggering mismanagement the dramatic events in modern american life. >> primetime weekend continues ahead with stephanie rule. . >> when we come back a look at the economy and what the white house is doing to lower costs for everyday consumers. the best advice i ever got was to invest with vanguard for my retirement. the second best? 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because i remember thinking at the time how powerfully you were delivering that prosecution how pro then particular it turned out to be and how it must have been registering in the minds of people who were watching it? >> lawrence, i found on the campaign trail up and down the state really two things motivating voters. the first was yes, a deep concern about the direction of the country about even the potential the prospect the possibility of return to the madness of donald trump and they wanted somebody in the senate that knew how to fight him and defend our democracy if the worst came to the worst. and i also found more prevalent a desire among californians like they wanted somebody who knew how to get things done and take on the big fights and also knew how to work with others to you to deliver more affordable housing and bring down childcare costs and make sure people could afford health care and access health care. those bread and butter issues and a desire for someone who can deliver has a record of delivering that was also and maybe more potent a message and more resonant with voters than the democracy issues. >> steve gary your opponent has admitted to voting for donald trump twice. what else do california voters and what else will california voters learn about steve garvey between now and november? >> well, a great deal. he has been unwilling to say too much about his views because he knows they are out of step with california. but we know that he shares the maga views of the border crisis and demonizing immigrants. he is not going to defend reproductive freedom or seek to restore it. this is someone who in the past supported a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. he is not going to stand up to the nra and fight for gun safety legislation. he is perfectly happy with the minimum wage being paltry $7. doesn't want to see it raised. he is not going to fight for an economy that works for everyone. the contrasts will be sharp for california voters and we will do everything we can to make sure that california voters know this. my view has been run scared or run unopposed and i'm not running unopposed. >> i understand. so in the senate, you will in discussions with chuck schumer and some chairmen end up with committee assignments which are much more stable in the senate. they don't kick people off committees in a partisan way in the senate the way they have done in the house of representatives. would you want to go back to the intelligence committee in the senate where you served as chairman in the house? >> i would love to. but what i want to do, also, lawrence, because of the phenomenon you mentioned which is as big as populous and important as california is we get as many senators as every other state. i want to compare what committee see is sitting on and determine how i can add the most value for californians. if i'm lucky enough to emerge in november successful. i want to make sure i am in a position to deliver for the country. but i certainly love the issues and the intelligence committee and i want to play a role if i have the opportunity and make sure that we restructure the supreme court that we have term limits and we have code of ethics. there is a lot i want to do. >> as the biden campaign looks at the country, for democratic presidential campaigns, california is a place where you go to raise money it is not a place where you have to go to campaign and not a place where they have to spend that money on tv advertising because joe biden, kamala harris will win california easily and all of those electoral votes. what are the lessons of political concern in california that you think translate to other states that the biden-harris campaign should be thinking about and other campaigns should be thinking about? >> real quality of life issues and you are absolutely right, in hey normal world someone with joe biden's record should be coast coasting to reelection he has done another month address fundamental inequities in our economy. but nevertheless there are problems that have been decades in the making which people continue to work harder than ever and many struggle to get by. and these very down to earth issues how am i going to afford a place to live? why do i have to commute two hours to work? on the campaign trail i talked with my dad who was a traveling salesman in the clothing business. made $18,000 a year and my folks bought our home for $18,000. shows you how much life changed. no president has done more to try to address that. but i think he has to acknowledge what he's done and he's got a lot to brag about, and also the work ahead and how he's going to fight to make the economy work for everyone. and donald trump we saw it in the four horrible years is going to fight to make the economy work for donald trump and for his and his family. >> thank you for joining us on the winner's circle tonight. . >> thank you. thank you. . >> this has been primetime weekend i'm lawrence o'donnell. tune in the last word at 10:00 p.m. eastern weeknights on msnbc. okay y'all we got ten orders coming in... big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stresses just melt away. i hear that. this bad boy can fix anything. yep, tough day at work, nice cruise will sort you right out. when i'm riding, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity. well, you shouldn't ignore that. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills, i just hop on the bike, man. oh, come on, man, you got to pay your bills. you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number-one motorcycle insurer. well, you definitely do. those things aren't related, so... ah, yee! oh, that is a vibrating pain. wanna know a secret? 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movement led by sdon don. he is mon shod the 13 13 times. trump and the threat he thoses to our democracy here at home to our standing in the world looms large over every line of the speech. "new york times" describing the president's state of the union quote unleashed an unyielding. mr. biden seemed to relish the showdown. while he boasted his accomplishments as president's do, he made no aspiration to rhetorical flourishes. he men shod his utty agenda with no utty in it and he. we will not walk away biden said in his address we will not bow down. he was speaking go russia and he seemed to intend it for the fight for his own presidency. president biden came out swinging against donald trump and the gop in the speech that laid out in the bluntest terms the stakes in the upcoming election for our democracy and freedom at home and abroad. with us at the table board member analyst is here and national affairs analyst is here. the host of politics nation here, and the president of the national action network. i made a list of the first thing he talked about. first thing he mentioned is putin and nato and january 6 and political violence and political abortion. in 9010, 90% of americans do not approve of putin. numbers are lower in the republican party. january 6 among the public has high 60s and low 70s who don't approve what they saw. political violence is interesting the republican party 60% of republicans i think are high 50s think it can be acceptable in some situations. as a general issue another 60 or 70% of americans oppose political violence and he went to abortions the highest approval ratings. 63-70%. this was a speech designed to grab back the center of the country and this guy here you don't want to do that, folks. >> it's interesting because as unpopular in some ways as joe biden is, a lot of the concerns about his age have dominated the news cycle for months. but what he did last night was important. because he turns the tables and actually focused on the democratic agenda compared to the republican agenda. and the reality is that on the issues the democrats are winning on every issue. they have the agenda at the moment that represents many more americans. americans want gun control that is reasonable. americans don't want to have their rights taken away. they are against the overturning of roe vs. wade. and so down the line, the democrats have the more popular agenda. and so joe biden reminded americans of that last night. and he comes off as someone who is not a maniac. he said this is not about me. this is about you and american democracy and wooer's going to fight for tonight fight for the issues that you care about that will improve your lives. i think that is a winning message. compared to the doom and the gloom that we saw from republicans. and even their snickering last night, came off as cynical and small. and so i think. >> fired up biden. even if it hadn't come up for them, it just invigorated him. i was glad they were interactive he fed off it. and god, whatever they did juiced him for the next part of the speech. >> we saw a fighter and americans are looking for a fighter. >> i think democrats had to see that. but the other thing he needs to be doing this almost everyday. he needs to be out there much more and there is no reason for him not to be, bring it on. >> i don't know how many of the old adages hold, when i was on campaigns if you were an incumbent you need a choice. he laid out the choice as expertly as any incumbent president has ever, ever done ahead of a general election. >> that is right. and i don't want to -- i think the states of the union have a couple audiences. the audience which is the viewers and voters and that you can make a case on your agenda and make a case on choice versus the referendum issue. and those are effective if they are prosecuted over the course of kays and weeks and months into the future and the other audience the filter. us. and the mainstream media the identify logical partisan media, the washington democrats the insiders and republican insiders and those people had one thing they were looking at last night. none of the rest of this mattered. it had become a speech about joe biden capable of running doing this. and that's you can talk about why we got to that point but that was the thing. he was going to come out and people will are go okay he can do this or not. republicans made a huge mistake and the right-wing media who set the bar at he is a korms corpse the guy is not competent anymore. the bar was set low and not only did biden clear that low bar and soared above it in terms of the energy, the aggression, the aggressiveness, the prosecutorial nature and speed of it. did he stumble a few times? yes. it makes the point we should be doing this all the time. nobody is talking about the times he stuttered. it was like what you got was that new york post headline he is alive. and that is not a small thing in this moment where democrats are panicking republicans are licking their chops to walk home and have them go, okay, the idea the guy is just feeble and incapable and going to make an idiot of himself that for at least for the news cycle that is gone. and you can tell the reason you can tell it's the way the republicans decided to atax cut him he is talking too fast and yelling too loud nobody saying yesterday, nobody saying boy, joe biden looked old and feeble. did not hear that from the far right people. >> it was politically nimble. if you had been locked in space for the last 20 years and the last campaign was the mccain biden 2008 campaign and you plopd down yesterday you would not have known necessarily this was a democratic president. he started out quoting ronald reagan talking about the civil war and world war ii. he then went on, i thought it was an an aggressive move to use reagan's words against the people in the chamber saying tear down this wall. the guy says come on in. the plan which manafort championed was to give away to chunk up ukraine and give it away that was trump's policy what he was saying in private and in public. i thought that the moment that wasn't scripted not only did not hurt him but might have helped him. when he was confronted by marjorie taylor greene's stunt it was a moment that he handled it deftly. i think that it did all the things that you said it did to the filter and to democrats. but he is also speaking directly to nikki haley's supporters. >> i think that is correct. i think the nickty haley crowd and he spoke to soak of the constituents that he whats beginning to have polling lower in the democratic front. by not only -- >> a priority. >> which is the priority because of turnout. which is why, yes, he spoke to the issues at the top that are 90/10 and he circled back and reminded young voters who he did around college debt relief and was blocked and found a way to do it anyway. he talked to black voters this is the verse iry of bloodky sunday. i supported the john lewis voting rights bill and we need to vote it again. he went and got the edges after he had gotten what was in the middle. and i think that i agree that the bar was lowered in terms of saying he was a guy that couldn't function and the two things that was done, by him being able to handle marjorie taylor greene if i was on their side and a veteran protester i would not have given him that last night. consider the chamber that had been disrupted you are playing the script wrong. you wanted to act we are not that and she played right in the stereotype of what he said. that they desecrated this chamber. and he handled it well which showed he was alert and anything but old. the other thing that people are missing he was almost the last person to leave the chamber. everybody else was running to go to bed. he was how is your wife? he blew it out of the water. >> the speaker gavelled the chamber shut it down because close to midnight biden is still there and democrats were overjoyed and they started to turn the lights. like when you are in a party and they flash the lights. go home. >> push him down the aisle to make him go. he was talking to everybody. this is not a guy that is tired and old and can't make it. >> to your point and you know with what this is like doing the state of union. how many times did you tell george w. bush does add libs. it doesn't matter. state of the union is a scripted speech. >> correct. >> and two dozen -- and they were scripted off script moments he was looking for opportunities to engage with republicans on the floor like it was question time in the british parliament he was looking to he had these things this is where i'm going to hold their feet to the fire. and when they make a noise i will hit back. i thought quite again to your point, the notion that he not only showed that he had energy but that is like a high wire act, man. when you start on live television at this level that is a high wire act for any politician and he handled it fine. >> he handled it fine because it's more comfortable for him. he is more of a prime minister questioning kind of political than he is a telethon. >> and a creature of that chamber someone who is comfortable in that room. >> right. i hope there's something there about otr's and i know jen sake was saying he loved it when members were on air force one. most presidents [ inaudible ] that is not something you would say about many presidents. i mean, the other thing is my shift ended at the end of the speech when he was half an hour later you've got to be kidding me they should -- and they were not all democrats. he was juiced by the republicans that he has known a long time. i want to say something that i was watching. you can get pulled down a rabbit hole. i was trying to watch the republicans there was something tragic about i was gone for four months, mike johnson the speaker, mike johnson's face and posture and lindsey graham like he was watching he was like there he is. he was like a chuckle and a look of he was truly entertained and amused. so see the republicans and i don't think capitulate you can tell from their faces they were back to attacking him by the 11:00 p.m. hour. but in the moment, it was clear that everybody knew this was a good speech and a good moment for the president. >> they also know that many of them are engaged in lying daily. they are sitting there thinking yeah, he is speaking the truth we are not going to say that. we are not going to sit there like children snickering and langford is sitting there. >> it's true. >> it's true. as president biden talks about the immigration bill that he worked for months to secure the most conservative bill in years that the republicans are now yearing. the surrealness of that moment. and reminded me of that moment years ago when i think it was joe wilson saying to barack obama you lie, this was almost an inversion of that. you have langford saying it's true. and so i don't know. >> speaks the truth. >> speaks the truth. >> occasionally in aan nba game you will see one team beating another team by a lot and you will see the other team when like lebron james does a dunk the other team will like like to be applauding like we're not going to win right now wow that was an incredible dunk. but, with lindsey graham it was like this is not the night not our night this is his night he beat us we'll get him tomorrow but there was that appreciative sense we'll fight it tomorrow not today. >> primetime weekend continues ahead with my colleague joy reid. . >> president biden called out maga republicans hailing the violent january 6th insurrection as heros. who are the real heros of that day? 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>> obviously i thought that the president's words were appropriate. i'm glad to see that his reelection team is starting to take the threat of democracy seriously. and that they are allotting appropriate time for the president to address that threat to the american people. unfortunately, i feel as though many of the institutions that are in place of this country to protect us from an insurrectionist like the former president, are failing us. or simply not in position to save us from ourselves. i think eventually it will come down to the american people at the ballot box voting to place president biden in office again and keep donald trump out of office. >> i think there is a consensus you are absolutely correct. harry we have had that same conversation. you worked in that space in that place. when i was watching it i did have an erie feeling seeing business done at the scene of the crime. i'm wondering 0 how you felt and what you thought? >> it can be on somebody, this is the first time in 15 years that i hadn't been working in a law enforcement capacity to sit down and and watch it. and the last segment you talked about the trump [ inaudible ] never surrender. he is a former law enforcement official. for him to say something about never surrender is gross to policing and law enforcement as it is. but i think the speech by president biden was right on the money and not letting people forget about what happened and that is part of the reason why i'm running for congress. harry dunn for congress.com. we need people to continue not just the president but it's great when the president does it and people to pushback against the lies that the are continually three years later spread about what happened that day. i applaud encouraged by the work that is being done. so many people are showing up and not letting this go away. michael testified last week before one of the weaponization committees and we need to continue to show up. like mike said, it's not about the institutions. but they are run by the people. and the supreme court with their ruling about colorado clearly shows that it's going to be on us american people to save democracy. >> primetime weekend continues amy colleague. -- with my colleague. .com. >> sin♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. okay y'all we got ten orders coming in... big orders! starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant... that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up. people were showing up left and right. and so did our business needs the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card. make more of what's yours. only unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans with the chase ink business unlimited card. come with the ucard - one simple member card that opens doors where it matters for you. what if we need to see a doctor away from home? 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and are they confident enough that they can pull off the are you better? it seems like obviously even if you don't blame trump for the pandemic are you better? we're all better off? >> even if donald trump had never been president, under joe biden right now you have the best job market since the 1960s. unploit below 4% and the best recovery in the world. more people with health insurance than before in american history. you have got violent crime at a low. if donald trump was still running as the former host of the apprentice telling people like the five years have been awful. is a weird sell to a country that is experiencing life under joe biden that has all of the right economic metrics. so i mean, you have to tell people don't remember 2020. i do think that covid walloped everyone. but i went back and looked at my coverage four years ago when i saw that you flagged this, and what i was talking about four years ago was mulvaney at c pac telling everybody the liberal media made up covid to make trump look bad. >> we can do that again. put him back in there. >> i feel like you hit on something that is not talked about enough, which is the way in which we as a country have not dealt with the trauma of covid. >> 100%. >> highest event in american life. who wants to go back to the fear and the death and groceries? >> classic response. >> i made a photo album of that year i was like i'm going to want to forget this and i need to remember we were masking outdoors. and in that same time, joe biden ran for president. we can't forget that. the lessons from that campaign are totally different lessons than the ones he needs to apply in this situation. i followed him i was on the campaign trail with joe biden. there were a lot of mediocre events and then none. >> that is a good point. >> he is not a great campaigner. he has been a really effective president. and the sort of dissidence needs to be reconciled in a year when he has to be kind of a better campaigner and he's got to do something that is incredibly complicated to get america to remember what life was like in the rearview. we are not good at that we are good at moving forward not asking questions about the past and not reconciling the sins and faults and go forward. >> and nikki haley's campaign one of the things she did was cut montages of trump time in trump's presidency to remind people what it was like. i did see haley do that. and that is something they can absolutely steal from her she tried to remind people about what the chaos presidency is like. >> instagram reels of trump's telling people to drink bleach and the cdc had their heads shaking her heads. it is the staggering mismanagement the dramatic events in modern american life. >> primetime weekend continues ahead with stephanie rule. . >> when we come back a look at the economy and what the white house is doing to lower costs for everyday consumers. the best advice i ever got was to invest with vanguard for my retirement. the second best? 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because i remember thinking at the time how powerfully you were delivering that prosecution how pro then particular it turned out to be and how it must have been registering in the minds of people who were watching it? >> lawrence, i found on the campaign trail up and down the state really two things motivating voters. the first was yes, a deep concern about the direction of the country about even the potential the prospect the possibility of return to the madness of donald trump and they wanted somebody in the senate that knew how to fight him and defend our democracy if the worst came to the worst. and i also found more prevalent a desire among californians like they wanted somebody who knew how to get things done and take on the big fights and also knew how to work with others to you to deliver more affordable housing and bring down childcare costs and make sure people could afford health care and access health care. those bread and butter issues and a desire for someone who can deliver has a record of delivering that was also and maybe more potent a message and more resonant with voters than the democracy issues. >> steve gary your opponent has admitted to voting for donald trump twice. what else do california voters and what else will california voters learn about steve garvey between now and november? >> well, a great deal. he has been unwilling to say too much about his views because he knows they are out of step with california. but we know that he shares the maga views of the border crisis and demonizing immigrants. he is not going to defend reproductive freedom or seek to restore it. this is someone who in the past supported a constitutional amendment to ban abortion. he is not going to stand up to the nra and fight for gun safety legislation. he is perfectly happy with the minimum wage being paltry $7. doesn't want to see it raised. he is not going to fight for an economy that works for everyone. the contrasts will be sharp for california voters and we will do everything we can to make sure that california voters know this. my view has been run scared or run unopposed and i'm not running unopposed. >> i understand. so in the senate, you will in discussions with chuck schumer and some chairmen end up with committee assignments which are much more stable in the senate. they don't kick people off committees in a partisan way in the senate the way they have done in the house of representatives. would you want to go back to the intelligence committee in the senate where you served as chairman in the house? >> i would love to. but what i want to do, also, lawrence, because of the phenomenon you mentioned which is as big as populous and important as california is we get as many senators as every other state. i want to compare what committee see is sitting on and determine how i can add the most value for californians. if i'm lucky enough to emerge in november successful. i want to make sure i am in a position to deliver for the country. but i certainly love the issues and the intelligence committee and i want to play a role if i have the opportunity and make sure that we restructure the supreme court that we have term limits and we have code of ethics. there is a lot i want to do. >> as the biden campaign looks at the country, for democratic presidential campaigns, california is a place where you go to raise money it is not a place where you have to go to campaign and not a place where they have to spend that money on tv advertising because joe biden, kamala harris will win california easily and all of those electoral votes. what are the lessons of political concern in california that you think translate to other states that the biden-harris campaign should be thinking about and other campaigns should be thinking about? 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