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Welcome back to the weekend. We start the hour with possibilities for donald trump. Just hours after posting a 91 million bond that does allow the defamation of e. Jean carroll. He may have defamed e. Jean carroll again. Too listen to what he just said said. I just posted a 91 million on a fake story, totally made up story. Think of it. none million. I could say things about what it would cost normally. 91 million. Based on accusations made about me about a woman, i didnt know. I knew nothing of her. She wrote a book. And when i denied it, i said, its so crazy, its false. I got sued for defamation. It is remarkable. Lisa ruben is here. It is remarkable because donald trump is donald trump. I want to start with this 91 million, which i think is pretty interesting. Andrew weisman, or friend noted in a tweet. 90 million down, 400 million to go, and the public has no idea who may have put up the money or provided a guarantee to support the bond. But one thing is sure. Trump is beholden to someone for a whole lot of money. Talk to us about this bond and what that says, marcus. Does it matter who put it up . Do we need to know who that person is . Were not going to get into that transaction between trump and that individual. But given his stature and who he is. It would be helpful to shed light on that. What i took from it was, i need friends. Clearly my friends wouldnt help me with that. Hes running for president. And probably the American Public should either know who is guaranteeing or cosigning that much money for someone who is running to be the leader of the free world. What it says practically is that look, hes going to appeal the decision in this case. But we have to look down the road. Theres another 400 million that Andrew Weisman is going to put up here. Thats a lot of money for the presidency. Im still like this, lisa. Me, too. You would think at this point, lisa ruben, we would no longer be surprised by his lack of discipline. But the thing we kept coming back to when this sum was ordered, is this number big enough to make him stop . We now have an answer. Youre right. We do have an answer. It was to make him stop until he was past a point that the judge could no longer order more, have any further consequences for it. Im struck by the fact, alicia, he said these things the night he posted bond, filed a judgment of appeal, the judge is long past finalized. Should e. Jean carroll and her team want any further, their only option is to file another case. The punitive damage was as great as it was, because donald trump kept saying it after the initial judgment. The argument they made was that he was not deterred by the first award, and in fact, continued to say it again and again and again. And they even aired clips, for example, of the cnn toin hall, days after the initial verdict. So he was, in some respects, very disciplined. He didnt say a word until after the notice of appeal. He obtained a bond through a reputable insurer, Chubb Insurance company. And the night after, he goes on a tirade, saying things that not only are potentially defamatory, but totally echo the two statements in 2019, for which he was held liable. What is e. Jean carrolls recourse now . You know, i wish i could get into their head right now. I think her recourse here is to sue again. Or at the very least to oppose the bond, which is an option that judge kaplan gave them. Judge kaplan said if they want to oppose the bond in any respect, they have until monday, thats tomorrow, at 11 00. If they do oppose it, it will be in manhattan federal court. And another thing to look for, friends. It was just so much. Donald trump. He talked about literally all of his court cases last night. He went on a tirade, honestly. And for me, its kind of like you in a defamation case, its like, you know you dont have the money. What is happening here. And he went on and on. He called i think he used a racial slur, frankly, racist slur. Called picabo james, you all do with that what you will. And he also talked about fawny willis. He talked about all of it. Lets play what donald trump said about fawny willis in georgia last night. Fawny willis hired her lover, nathan wade, so they could fraud lently make money together. Lets make money, darling. Lets see. Who can we go after . If we go after someone nobody heard of, we cant make much. I got an idea. Lets do what joe biden and Everybody Else want, lets go after trump. And we did nothing wrong. Much like how he talked about e. Jean carroll, with lies, frankly, not with facts. Same thing here with fawny willis and nathan wade. Anybody else facing this kind of legal onslaught, would not be allowed to stand up and tear down the district attorneys. But the attorney general. The other the folks that are bringing in these executes against them. Why is donald trump consistently allowed to behave in this way . Why . The laws dont apply to him. I think thats always been the case. That is a crazy statement. Its crazy because thats the way he knowledges. I mean, the laws do apply. And thats where the test of our legal system is going to be. But he does not think that. One of the things that always stood out to us is after the big lie. After he knows hes investigated, he would go on the Campaign Trail and talk about how the election was still rigged, still taken from him. As he said, he had discipline during the trial. Now hes losing that discipline because he is trying to attack our system that is trying to hold him accountable and he does not think the laws apply to him. Lisa, i want to go back to the bond. And the fact that they could oppose the bond and if they did, there would be a hearing for that. Walk us through a little bit of what would happen if that process occurred and the judge goes, okay. No bond, number one. And number two. Theres also the ongoing concern about juror access. The new york judge on the hush money case, restricts access to the jurors identities still. Talk to us a little bit of why thats still a very important part of this ongoing case and id say, for all of these cases that involve donald trump, particularly after what we saw last night in georgia. Michael, theres a whole lot there. Let me try and take it in two parts. With respect to the bond. If e. Jean carrolls lawyers oppose the form or the amount or even the identity of the surety, like Chubb Security that provides bond here, they can put that in paper tomorrow. But after that, i dont know. Ive never seen a situation like this where the judge gives the Party Opportunity to oppose a bond. Bonds that are issued in service of an appeal, usually are pretty pro forma sorts of proceedings. So lets see what happens tomorrow. It may be that they say this is not enough security for them. Or we dont know enough about the terms. Donald trump in that clip you played earlier, made this weird, offhanded remark, about how there was something off about the terms of the bond, meaning you usually get a bond like that for less. It was a little bit vaguer than that. But i think thats what he was alluding to. Obviously he slipped up and made reference to the negotiations between him and khaeub. Obviously, we the public want to know more about that. Maybe we will tomorrow. With respect to juror identities. Donald trump has a statutory right in New York State to know the names of jurors. That distinguishes the upcoming case, from the two e. Jean carroll cases. Where the jurors identities were completely anone and they will be able to do Realtime Research on the potential jurors. That is a major difference. Still, we the press will not know their names. And donald trump himself will not have their residential or business addresses. Thats because weve seen, time and again, that when he makes a call to his followers, there is frequently a response that endangers participants in the justice process, michael, as you well know. And hrrbg marcus, as you well know. Yes, exactly. And thats something im actually worried about. I know the press wont have access to these jurors names. And i think a name is enough. And weve seen the former president even talk law clerks. And even, you know, having Nose Jury Consultants look up background on jurors. And having information with the president is something that you have to feel a lot of fear for these jurors. Because they didnt raise their hand to be a part of this process. So i know that we i know that you all arent leaving anywhere. But this did the judge he restricted access to their identities. So what does that mean . Because i dont understand it. I dont understand. So he has a statutory right. What, actually, is he going to get. So hold the thought. Okay. 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There is so much procedural drama that it is sometimes easy to forget that with all of this, were picking a president. This week, judge alene cannon will hear arguments on Donald Trumps motion to dismiss the classified documents case. Trumps legal team claims hes protected under the president ial records act and the theory of president ial immunity. But Special Counsel jack rip. Writing trump cant identify anyone who engaged in similar criminal conduct without being prosecuted. And quote, failed to provide any evidence that his indictment was brought solely to retaliate against him. Rather than because he flagrantly and repeatedly broke the law. Lisa rubin and Mark Childress are back with us. I want to give you an answer to your return burning question. Yeah. I wanted to make sense. To lisas point, he donald trump, has a statutory right to the information of the jurors. So what exactly is he going to get . I think, symone, after the jurors are chosen, are potentially during jury selection, he will have access to the names. But the way it will go down publicly nocourt, the jurors will be anonymyzed. It never becomes researchable to the audience who these folks are. In the e. Jean carroll trial, they were even told to not provide detailed information about, for example for example, their employers, locations, what town they lived in, because that case, in federal court, drew from multiple counties. But here, i think well just get their numbers and also maybe an admonition from the judge, not to provide that personal information. We have been struggling all day and giving you a chance, my friend, to have some water. Lets go back to the classified documents case. I think marcus. Specifically some concern about what is a questionable filing. In court filings, cannon wrote the arguments may be of considerable help to her. The judge may be leaning towards throwing out the federal case. What are you watching for, marcus . Im watching for that. What you just said. I thought it was striking to see the counsel use terms like frivolous. Thats not something you usually see with a lawyer that is filing, at least reputable lawyer. I think that would be a surprising order if judge cannon were to throw out this case. I thought the Amenity Arguments clearly laid out again, right, the Election Interference Case is not an official act. But conduct more the president did after he left office, where he intentionally thwarted. Is even further outside the boundaryless of what should be permissible under immunity argument. If judge cannon were to throw out this Immunity Claim or record act claim. Maybe one saying the special council was impermissibly appointed i think that would be a very, very dramatic opinion that would caused an immediate appeal, of course, by the Special Counsel. Marcus, i want to go back up to the new york d. A. And the efforts ongoing there. You have, for example, da bragg calling out trumps lawyers for ignoring the fact that Michael Cohen was found credible during trumps fraud trial, while trying to dismiss him in the hush money fraud trial. Talk to us a little more on what is going on in that case, and what youre seeing happening in this new york d. A. Bragg case. This is one of my favorite parts of the case, where you lay out your evidence. Its called motion to eliminate phase. And we saw from the a. G. s filings. Or the manhattan d. A. s filings, that they want to present evidence about a doorman, for example, who was paid off in 2015. And another model that was paid off before the hraebgds. You mean, there were other people who were paid off by donald trump. Other people paid off. And there were inappropriate records for that as well. I think that this is important. Because it doesnt go to the character. Right . You cant put this in as character evidence. But you can put it in for intent and motive. And its something i frequently do as a prosecutor. And past behavior. Past behavior. This is very persuasive evidence. As you can imagine, a former president wants to keep this out. Hes making political points. This shouldnt be out in a campaign season. All of this past behavior. Its relevant. Its relevant for jurors to hear this. I can see the judge restricting some of this evidence coming in. Hold up. Why does a judge restrict evidence that goes to the behavior in question . A lot of times, thats just being saved to preserve the record. So if its not directly for charges, which here is the Stormy Daniels case. Then you might be able to admit some of this this evidence. But what often happens is on crossexamination, you might challenge, like say, this wasnt my clients intent. That opens the door at times. And put this evidence in to rebut that inference and to also improve their case. I think it was just a nice example of the manhattan d. A. s office, laying out exactly what they have here. Of this habit, this history, of what the former president did. And im sure it will get before the juries one way or the other. Lisa, what are you watching for this thursday . Thursday in court, at fort pierce, with judge cannon. The thing im looking for is why did she choose the two motions that she did. Shes holding Oral Argument on two of trumps seven motions. One as marcus note side on the president ial act. The other has to do about the first 32 counts being vague. Im interested, why did she choose those . One is shes looking to toss the case and looking to toss it on something other than constitutional immunity grounds. There is a fear if they were to uphold the d. C. Circuit. She will be against that. Shes looking for potentially another reason to throw out the case. The president ial records act argument is entirely frivolous. Trump is very fond of comparing it to what he calls the clinton socks case. Thats an audio clinton made with the biographer. And the reasoning on that case turns on the fact that the judge considered those more akin to diaries; so its not analogous at all. But why those two moges in particular . Well be watching. Lisa rubin, marcus childress, as always, thank you for being with us. And we have breaking news from the white house, responding to senator katie britts comments about human trafficking. Instead of talking about more lies, senator brit should stop choosing Human Snugglers and fentanyl traffickers over our national security. We have a simple choice. We can fight about fixing the border or fix it. Up next. Former Chief Of Staff ron klain. Of afstf ron klain. Can get a free footlong at subway. Just buy any footlong in the app and get one free. Just scan the qr code and Enter Promo Code flbogo. It only works from The Other Side of the screen, buddy. You still got a land line in your house. 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Thats not you we see a future where were defying democracy and defend it, not diminish it. We see a future where we defend the basic freedoms, not take them away. Joining us now is former white house Chief Of Staff of President Biden, ron klain, welcome to the table, my friend. Good to have you. Look at ron klain getting up oral a sunday. We love to see it. Curious if people remembered to change their clocks. Well. Well, some of us. Ron, i as people were talking about the State Of The Union before it happened. Stakes were high. Going to talk about his age. Thats what the State Of The Union is about. But i was looking for. The tour afterwards is what you need to watch. Joe biden cares a lot about that tour. Can you just talk about why, from the president s perspective and the white houses right now, is this tour just as, if not even more important than what he did on the stage in the capitol at the State Of The Union on tuesday . As you know, from being out on the road, the president loves to be out there talking to voters. Being able to have those oneto one exchanges and addressing their concerns where they are. I think the State Of The Union was important, though. I think it was a chance to speak to the entire country. Lay out what he wants to do. Persuade a persuasive, energetic agenda, about what the future holds for the United States with joe biden as president. Thought he did a great job of that in State Of The Union. Now he has a good chance of amplifying that. Going around the country. Talking to them in their own towns and states. And thats something he loves to do. It was a great campaign. There was a term in the playbook on how to turn the tables. I want to read you that. Over and over, biden laid bait for republicans. Over and over, they chomped on it. Whether the topic was tack taxing billionaires or Border Security provisions in the bipartisan package, they rejected. Im reminded what harry truman said. He said, i just tell the truth and people think its hell. And i think joe biden is the same way. I think hes just out there, explaining what he stands for. And the republicans really dont have much answer to much of this, as we have been seeing. They have been struggling to explain why they oppose a bipartisan border bill. That would strengthen our protection at the border, make a Fair Assessment on hearing asylum claims. So i think president is just laying out there. Laying out the facts. Laying out what hes done as president. Laying out what he does. And if they find that uncomfortable, thats because they put themselves in this dilemma. You have a lot of interesting aspects of this campaign that have yet to unfold. And one of those is the opportunity for these two men, joe biden to face off. And i want you to listen very quickly to donald trump last night, who felt compelled on the heels of what he saw from the State Of The Union, to say this, about a matchup between him and joe biden. You were once the chair of the Senate Judiciary committee. So i was struck by your direct comments to the Supreme Court, who are but officially, for the good of our nation, it is time for Crooked Joe Biden and myself to debate. We have to debate. Its for the good of our nation. For the good of our nation. These two men should debate each other. Talk to us about your thoughts on that. And how does that look, in light of what we saw the first time, and now where we are with both of these campaigns going into 24 . Look. President biden has debated each time heres run for president. He debated last time under the rubric of the bipartisan president ial debate, which has sponsored the president ial debate in our country every election since 1988. And afterward, trump said he would never participate in commissioned debates again. So i think its up to donald trump to make it clear, he would agree to this long standing way, which connects to the debates in this koutt country. Joe biden is certainly happy to debate trump. I think we have to know that trump would agree to the right set of basic instruction that his predecessor has agreed to. And hell follow the rules. Last time, he tried to break the rules everywhere he could and was more of a spectacle than a debate. It was everywhere much a spectacle. And i think some, really, joe biden is scared of donald trump. He doesnt want to see him on a debate stage. And some people will say, yes, i heard ron klain say that donald trump needs to agree to the time lines, but the white house right now, is not being clear on if they want to if if they really want to debate. They really dont want to get into it with donald trump. I can assure you, joe biden is not scared of donald trump. I can assure you, joe biden is the only person in either Political Party that has beaten donald trump. Beat secretary clinton in 2016. And has now beaten a number of republicans again. The only person who has stood up and beaten donald trump in an election is joe biden. Thats why hes the right president ial nominee. Thats why to continue to serve as he has. And i think thats what the campaign will be all about. Ron, we saw from the president , a real appetite for embracing bipartisan negotiations on the border and on immigration. He visited the border last week. Was it a mistake, in retrospect, not to lean into this issue, earlier, during his First Administration . I think he has been working very hard on this issue throughout the very four years. Its a very hard issue. We had a lot of chaos at the border, the first two years. The last of the administration. Until sadly, a pandemic brought it quiet at the border and a lot of places. So the president has been working on trying to use his Executive Authority to deal with the challenges at the border. And you know, he also, though, did send on the first day he was in office on january 20, 2020, he sent to congress, a comprehensive Immigration Bill to fix our system which is broken, not fair he proposed it the first day in congress and Congress Never acted on it. Im glad that now at least some members are prepared to move forward. Need all members of the senate to move it forward. To have a more efficient and humane immigration system. The interesting thing about that issue, the border, for example, and how republicans use and have used that issue against the biden administration. You know, sets up for me. A number of storylines that have emerged, ron, about how well people actually remember what happened when donald trump was president of the United States. The only thing that came out about the border at that time, was build a wall that did not get built. And yet the narrative is sort of blown back on the president. President biden. How how does a campaign, from your long experience in this space redefine that narrative . You have a lot of, you know, conversation. A lot of reporting out there. Trying you know, trying to get people to remember. This is what happened during the trump years. Right . That part of the narrative seems to have broken down. You would agree, symone. You and i have had this conversation on a number of occasions, right . People forgot how chaotic it was. How bad it really was, in a number of cases, regarding healthcare . Lets talk about covid. Border . Lets talk about the wall. Infrastructure, lets talk about infrastructure week. How do you remind people of what those four years were like . As you had katie britt asking america, are you better off than you were three years ago . Yeah. But lets go a little further than that and see how we were doing then. I think the best answer to have a campaign is to have a campaign. I think thats how the president is kicking off. Youll see him more aggressively. In the summer and fall. Campaigning. Framing up for voters. What are the choices. And part of that is looking back to when donald trump was president , no question. But i think looking forward to what he would do with four more years. How much we can make progress on healthcare Reproductive Rights, healthcare. I think the Campaign Needs to address what needs to be addressed in the campaign. I think hes been governing. Now its time to give voters a choice between moving forward with joe biden or going back with donald trump. Thats the campaign that will pose. Youre really talking about two things at once. The campaign during that reminder thing. And that president s job, telling people where were going. Exactly. Exactly. Well, youre not going anywhere. Wed like you to stick around. Thank you. 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Because he was angry he lost an election. Former president trumps actions preceded the riot or a disgraceful disgraceful dereliction of duty. Ron klain is back with us. I just gotta say, michael. Its not just mitch mcconnell, right . Its also New Hampshire governor chris sinunew. You predicted this. You told us this was going to happen. And now we are watching it happen, step by step. And it will continue to happen. The only thing i think folks awaiting for ron is when does nikki bend the knee . Now you have her ardent supporters and advocate and governor out front, charging ahead of her. And governor chris sununu in New Hampshire. Saying hes going to support donald trump. Despite what i said before. Im unapologetic for calling him a complete irresponsible not a good candidate for president. But im going to endorse them. You all need to quit tripping over that and thinking youre fooling anybody with this crazy. This helps, i think, the biden narrative. Because republicans cant get of their own way. They are stuck on him like white on rice. Does that ease the way for the president to make the case to republicans like myself and others to say, hey, you all going to stick with stupid . Or come over here and move the country forward . I dont think he quite put it that way, michael. Okay. Im just just providing a little editorial commentary. I appreciate that. But i think the fact that since the Republican Party seems to be Donald Trumps party. Creates an opening to reach out for republicans who dont want to be part of Donald Trumps party. There are some who are not comfortable with Donald Trumps leadership and want an alternative. I think joe biden provides that alternative. So theres governing responsible way. Someone who has worked across party lines wherever possible and made the country. Got the country over this covid crisis he inherited with this predecessor. Creating the strongest economy in the world. I think there are a lot of republicans out there in the country, who i think, are open to getting to supporting President Biden. I think that the lining up of Republican Leadership behind donald trump creates an opening. Brings them into the same kind of coalition that helped him prevail in 2020. I think, what does it say, if im saying ron is not a good guy. And next thing you know, im like, im with ron. Hypocrite. I think thats what it says to voters, its giving hypocrite. In 2022, there were republicans for biden that rolled out at the convention. Michael steele was one of them. Prominent republican there. I think folks are talking about potentially the same thing, come this hopefully by this convention. But the coalition is broad and vast. And so i guess what keeps you up at night about this election, ron. Like is it getting the folks who might want to as the Vice President always talks about, sit on their couch . Like fighting their Couch Election . Staying home . Is it with International Affairs . Is it the craziness of donald trump . What keeps you up . Voter suppression . What is it . I think its all of those things and more. I think the stakes couldnt be higher. And to anyone who cares about democracy, should be frightening. I think joe biden is doing a good job as president. I want see those things continue. On a cleanenergy revolution. It will all stop if donald trump gets reelected as president. I think those are important things for our country. And we have to be sure, voters get out. And theyre not suppressed. And they do vote. We get them off the sofas. And that people appreciate that no matter what fantasies they have about third parties or fourth. In our country, choices should be joe biden and donald trump. That is the choice voters have. And if they dont vote for joe biden, theyre in essence, voting for donald trump. I think all of those things are concerned. In the end, i think President Biden will prevail in 2024 as he did in 2020 with the largest number of votes of any candidate in american history. Hes a strong candidate. I think hell do it again in 2024. Part of the contrast weve seen voters going in. The question of Reproductive Rights. We have jonathan caleb hart and the president. It is now up to donald trump to earn the votes of those in our party and beyond it, who did not support him. And i hope he does that. At its best, politics is about bringing people into your cause, not turning them away. You were once the chair of the Senate Judiciary committee. So i was struck by your direct comments to the Supreme Court, who are right there in front of you. Am i right in thinking that you view the Roberts Court as a political body and the conservative majority as politicians . Now, look. I think they read it wrong. And i was being blunt. Remember, what they said was, its up to the states to decide. Thats really what was said. Its no longer a constitutionallyguaranteed principle. And they used a phrase that women can vote. They can change if they want to. I found that somewhat insulting, the idea that they dont think they can. Women are speaking out they spoke out in 2022. They spoke out in 2024. 2020 this is what is going to happen. And i was just making clear. Women speak up. This is going to change. And if you give me a congress that is democrat, were going to change it back to roe v. Wade. Ron, we started with the nikki haley. Just in case you missed her. Wanting to see her after not seeing her for a few days. The reason our team pull the this from you. You were once chair of the Senate Judiciary committee. It is my understanding, you were chief counsel for then senator biden when he was in charge of that committee. This issue is interesting to me. Because it fits into the democracy frame, for sure. But also as were talking yesterday with sarah longwood. It fits into this idea that what The Other Side is doing is just so extreme. That it is unpalatable. Even to voters who might not call themselves pro choice. Even to voters who may not come out for democrats. They say, im watching what republicans are doing. And it is a vision of this country that i cannot stand by. So i wonder how you take all of these disparate issues. And fit them into one unifying frame. Such that people, when theyre going to the polls, its not that issue or that issue. Its just fundamentally, their vision of this country is too extreme for me. I think thats very well put. I think on the day that the Supreme Court handed down the dobbs decision, President Biden sat down and said, this was unfortunate. This is the start. Once you start to unravel peoples Reproductive Rights. How do you extend, family creation. Procreation, contraception and other things. And the decision banning ivf. As the president warned about the day dobbs was decided. Thats why i think its so important for the president to get reelected. And have a congress to restore reproductive freedoms to the law of the land. Thats what the president was talking about this the State Of The Union. And hopefully people give that in congress and give another turn, so we can sign into law, a bill to restore full Constitutional Rights for women in this country. Its just been so amazing to me in the wake of the alabama Supreme Court decision on ivf. Youve seen so many politicians going, i didnt know this was going to happen. Women women across this country. They knew this was going to happen. Ron klain, thank you, as always, for taking the final to be with us. We have a quick break. And next, talking to barbara lee and jasmine crockett. That is 10 00 a. M. Eastern here. S 10 00 a. M. Eastern here. And jen z. Each planning their future through the chase mobile app. Jen x is planning a summer in portugal with some help from j. P. Morgan wealth plan. Lets go whiskers. 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