Hernandez with simone thompson. Fresh off his interview with joe biden, our colleague Jonathan Capehart is here with more on the discussion from gaza. And donald trump may have done it again for everyone to see. The former white house Chief Of Staff is at the table of the Biden Campaigns upcoming swing state blitz. Grab your coffee and settle in. Welcome to the weekend. President biden is in full Campaign Mode taking his message to battleground states. He will make stops in wisconsin, new hampshire, and michigan. He called out Donald Trumps embrace of authoritarian leaders. The president also sat down with our own Jonathan Capehart for an exclusive interview. We will hear what he said about trumps romance with far right Prime Minister of hungary,f victor orban. Was that a mistake . He doesnt believe in democracy. The guys i host in nato have Great Respect for one another. Look, when you have a president who in the midst of a carnage going on as a consequence of russian attack on ukraine and talks about if these guys havent paid your dues, due what you want in nato. He talked about getting out of nato. It is critical to our national defense. Woe made a commitment after world war ii to never let it happen again. Look what hes doing. Its dangerts s. Jonathan is joining us now. Good morning. Good morning. I will let you know right now, im operating on about three hours of sleep so im not responsible. You know, its a miracle we are all here to be honest. That is a true statement. The hour has whooped everyone this morning but good to have you at the table this morning. A Good Opportunity to grab the president on the heels of what was an incredible State Of The Union for himself. And to go out there and face down republicans, face down a lot of the criticisms about his age and other things. And one of the aspects that i thought was interesting right off the top, and i want to play the sound when you asked about the conversation with Marjory Taylor greene. For me, it was that part of biden that no one reallybi appreciates is that he is not afraid. He is not afraid. Lets listen to what you guys talked about with marjory. I noticed the look of surprise on your face when you walked in the room and saw congresswoman Marjory Taylor greene, it was priceless. You feigned shock at seeing her. And during her heckling of her, you used the word illegal when talking about the man who killed laken riley. Undocumented person. I shouldnt have used the term illegal. Undocumented. When i spoke about the difference between trump and me, one of the difference at the border is the way he talks about vermin, people polluting the blood. What i wont do is treat any, any of these people with disrespect. They built the country. The reason our economy is growing. We have to control the border in a more ordererly flow but i dont share his view at all. So you regret using that word . Yes. And that to me says a lot. You have those two images, the one of Marjory Taylor greene in your face and then owning the other moment where he misspoke. What was your take overall of this president s attitude and view of how he is looking at this upcoming election. So in that interaction with Marjory Taylor greene at the State Of The Union, he loved it i think when she heckled him. He loves the interchange. He loves the jousting. The maner was in the senate for6 years. That was home to him. As my friend Joe Texted Mow during the State Of The Union, he was like, so he at home now. So also what you see in that answer, you see how he lit up when i mentioned Marjory Taylor greene, he wants to engage. He wants to do battle. He feels liberated now. He felt liberated in the State Of The Union but he feels more ribilated now being on the Campaign Trail which he loves. He is able to say what he believes. Say what he thinks. Not worry about the hatch act and other things. He feels deeply in his bones, you can see it in that answer and throughout the intervow that he is fighting not just for his job for another four years, he is fighting for the country. Its something that he deeply believes in. And is i think it is the worry that if he doesnt win, not for him but for the country. You know, you covered so much in this intervow with the president. We going to play a lot of clips in case folks missed it last night. We will play a lot of exchanges between the president and talking about taking it directly to the Supreme Court justices. Take a listen. You were once the chair of the Senate Judiciary committee so i was struck by your direct comments to the Supreme Court who were arrayed right in front of you. Am i right in thinking that you view the Roberts Court as a political body and the conservative majority as politicians instead of jurors . No, look. I think they made a wrong decision. They read the constitution wrong and they made the mestake. What they said is it is up to the states to decide. Thats really what it was said. It is no longer constitutionally guaranteed principle. And they used the phrase that women can vote and change it if they want to. I think that is insulting when they think they cant. Women are speaking out. They spoke out in 2022 and 2024. This is what is going to happen. Women speak up. This is going to change. If you give me a congress that is democrat, we are going to change it back to roe v. Wade. I think you remember very vividly during the president s last campaign for president where the reproductive Rights Community were a little we dont know, he wont say abortion. Even earlier in his presidency, there was much made about the fact that he wouldnt say abortion. What struck me about the exchange is i dont think there is any question on if joe biden will protect anyones reproductive freedom and rights. Right. Before we were talking about the word he used illegal, a word that he apologized for because it doesnt speak to folks dignity. Here, folks are given the word he wouldnt use and not recognizing the fact that he may not say the word but what about his actions, what is he doing in terms of protecting the thing that you are looking to protect. It was also telling during the State Of The Union that he turned around and gave a huge shoutout to Vice President harris and said she has been the one out and leading on this. Make no mace take, joe biden looked the Supreme Court dead in their eyes and said you were wrong and then when asked the question, he said you were wrong again. Wrong again. And you know, he pushed back on the premise of my question but even in listening to that again, in talking about the Supreme Court, he didnt say anything about they are jurists and they are a separate branch of government. He was talking about them as if they were politicians. That they spoke wrong. Their redric was wrong. The decision that they made was wrong. Not that the judicial ruling from on high was wrong. Youn and i are similar in se key ways so i expect we prepare the same way with interviews with a laundry list of what you would love to discuss with the president and then you make subtopics. And then you have 5 minutes and you are like, i dont know how i will fit the topics into the five minutes. But the act of the preparation gives you the scope of a portfolio of anyone, whether they are a member of the cabinet or president of the United States that they are contending with on any given day. That part of the experience, your preparing for this, your sitting down with the president and reflkting on the interview, i wonder what it tells you about what the president and his team are up against in this moment . Well, first of all, i want to know how you hacked my ipad because thats what i did. First i made topics, then i put in questions. Im not kidding. I had subheadings for everything and then coping on top of the news and then i was told we had 10 minutes. You got to fit in, and 10 minutes with a loquacious president. And always a member of the team that jumps in at minute 8 and gives you this sign. And what i had to do was figure out what was the most important thing i need to ask him about first and then figure out, listen to him, where is he going and jump around in my questions to see, to keep the conversation going. I will let you in on a little something. Before the interview started, the president said to me, listen, if i get going on a little too long in an answer, just cut me off. And i looked at him and said for real . And he said im serious, im serious. So heres a statistic for you. They gave us 10 minute. We eked out 13. I asked him 14 questions in 13 q minutes. He was able he was very disciplined. He gave crisp, short answers. Thats where the overpreparation comes in because i asked most of the questions i had prepared. I even had some silly ones in there in case lightning struck, like what is your view on daylightsaving time. That is an answer i would be desperate to have. Jonathan, you are sticking with us and we will talk about the president s other comments in the interview including comments on gaza. We will also talk about Collin Allred and his campaign in texas to take down ted cruz. Texas to take down ted cruz. [car door shuts] [paparazzi taking pictures] introducing, neds plaque psoriasis. Ned, ned, who are you wearing . He thinks his flaky red patches are all people see otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. Ned . Otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. Doctors have been prescribing otezla for nearly a decade. Otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. Dont use otezla if youre allergic to it. 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There are red lines when we cant have 30,000 more palestinians dead as a consequence of going after there are other ways to get to, to deal with the trauma caused by hamas. In an exclusive interview with msnbc, President Biden reaffirmed israels right to self defense but in the clip you saw, he signaled some steps that Benjamin Netanyahu could take that would cross a red line. Back with us is our host Jonathan Capehart who conducted the intervow. Jonathan, i was very struck by the president s answer on the red line. Folks are looking at these images coming out of the gaza strip. They are looking at some of the right wing rhetoric coming from Prime Minister netanyahu and some folks within his government but joe biden leaned in and said to be clear, there is nothing that israel is going to do that is going to make me stop sending them the aid that they need. A couple of things. On the red line, there is a distinction between being made between the defense of israel and defense of netanyahu as the leader of the nation. I think he said i have known him for 50 years. He got caught on the hot mic saying we will have a come to jesus meeting. When i asked him about that, he said it is what are you going to say to him in this difficult tough love conversation you are going to have. And the impression i got was it was not just that you cant have 30,000 more dead palestinians, mr. Prime minister. It seems there were other red lines that he was not willing to get into with me during that interview. Theres a much lower thresh landlord for these red lines. The other thing that jumped out at mow during the conversation was when i asked him, what did i think about the suggestion that people have made that he should go back to israel and speak to the cunest and it was one of those moments where it was clear that he was trying not to tell me something. He didnt dismiss it out of hand. And thats why i went back to him and said wait, so this is a discussion . Who would that invitation have to come from . The Prime Minister or the president . And he would not get into it. So woe should keep our eye on it. Clearly, there is friction between the leaders but he wanted to make it clear there is little daylight between the United States and israel. Lets be clear. No one is talking about israels defensive weapons. Thats not the issue. The issue is the weapons that israel is using in its prosecution of the war against hamas. And thats where im wondering are the red lines in there somewhere which would bring the threshold way lower than the one we talked about publicly. Im so glad you talked about it because thats exactly how i read the moment, that there is something potentially on the horizon that he is not able to tell you. Great follow up. He was not willing to give it to you. But he was willing to talk a little more about aid to gaza. Lets take a listen to that exchange. Lets talk about the temporary pier that you announceded during your state of the Union Address to get supplies into gaza. It is going totake 60 days to get that constructed. What more are you doing in the absence of cooperation from netanyahu and a bill from congress to get supplies into gaza, more humanitarian aid into gaza . Everything we can. We are opening access in the north. We are also doing airdrops. We know several people were killed in airdrops and we are working to avoid that in the future. We are working tosee how much we can get in. Its a desperate situation. Food, medicine, everything is badly needed and it is needed now. So i just want to unpack that moment, jonathan as i saw. Embedded in your question are two of the obstacles that the president is up against, an absence of cooperation from netanyahu and a bill from congress to get supplies in congress. We could have filibustered on those points but he preempteded them. There is cooperation with arab allies. Your sense of his optimism when it comes to getting something done here . I think when it comes to this, the president is always optimistic. I asked him the question about the ongoing search for a cease fire deal. Even though hamas left cairo, left the negotiating table. And tomorrow is the start of the holy month of ramadan and he was hoping to get a deal, everyone was hoping to get a deal in place by tomorrow, he held out hope that even with no one at the table, folks are still talking. He made a point of saying my cia director is in the region now trying to hammer out a deal. I asked him if he wanted a permanent cease nire, he said yes, but he said how about a six weeks cease fire and then we can get the hostages are released. They are hoping a six weeks will lead to 10, to 15, become a permanent thing to bring resolution to this. The president is always optimistic. He feels he has to be optimistic about this because there are so many lives at stake. And there is a region that is on hooks, could erupt region wide if there isnt a resolution. I think he is optimistic because all of the stake holders, theoretically are still at the table, and still talking. The president thinks as long as people are talking, there is hope. Jonathan capehart, such a great interview. Thank you for getting up early with us. You can catch jonathan on the saturday and sunday show at 6 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. You can see more of jonathans interview with the president tonight. Michael steele will join the sunday show tonight. Next, the Battle For Georgia is on the line. Trump and biden hold dueling Campaign Rallies in the state. The contrast could not be more clear. We will talk to Georgia Congresswoman Nikemah Williams next. Georgi congresswoman nikemah williams next it only takes a second for an everyday item to become dangerous. 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