That is the for us tonight. Tonight we begin with an msnbc exclusive interview with my colleague and host of the saturday and sunday shows, Jonathan Capehart, and President Biden. This comes as the president and the former President Trump are holding dueling rallies, resenting two radically different visions of america. After both scoring big wins on the super tuesday. Both biden and expresident s campaigns are gearing up for a close race in the battleground state. The margin was so tight in georgia in 2020 that trump was indicted for pressuring the Secretary Of State to find him more votes. Jonathan, the president discussed a wide variety of issues including his fight for reproductive access, the israel hamas war, and comments about the socalled crime wave on the border. Here is a clip from the interview. What is your redline with Prime Minister . Do you have a redline . Invasion of russia, would you urge him not to do that . Would that be a Redline Practice it is a redline but i am never going to leave israel the defense of israel is still critical. There is no redline i want to cut off. I want to protect them. But there are redlines that if you cross them, they could cause more dead. Jonathan capehart jointly now from atlanta. Great to see you. The great interview. Thank you for joining us. I know you are on a tight schedule but you covered a lot of ground with the president during this 13 minute Interview Prep was sent out to you during your conversation . The number one thing to me that stood out, and thank you very much, for having me on your show. The thing that stood out to me was that the president feels liberated to finally be able to get out of the white house and get on the Campaign Trail as to speak freely about where he worked to take the country, how much of a danger donald trump is , and to just sort of mixing up. In that clip that you showed, ayman, there were two things that stood out to me in that clip. Yeah, he said there is no redline. For him, when it comes to defending israel. But he also said, though, there is a redline when it comes to netanyahu, and so i want to know, what are those redlines beyond, he cant have 30,000 more palestinians killed on his watch. I got the impression that there are other redlines. When it comes to netanyahu, when it comes to the Prime Minister, but he wasnt going to get into those with me on camera. Notably, the president was getting a little bit of heat for something this week. His comments on calling an undocumented person an illegal during the state of the Union Address that individual is allegedly responsible for the killing of lakin riley in georgia. Take a quick listen to this response. I shouldnt have used illegal. It was undocumented. Look. When i spoke about this with trump, one of the things i said on the border was the way he talks about berman, the way he talks about these people polluting the blood. I said, i told you what i am not going to do. I am not going to treat any of these people with disrespect. As he said, he got a lot of pushback for using this word from some of his fellow democrats and migrant advocates. Does he get a sense that the damage has already been done . What did you make of his walking back these comments . Oh, he understands. He understood the damage that he caused and he was very eager to make amends. You could say he was very eager to clean it up, but he really wanted to make amends. As he said in the rest of that answer, he understood the use of that word, it was contrary to the overall message that he is trying to imparts to the country when it comes to whats happening at the border, when it comes to immigration, when it comes to undocumented immigrants in this country. And that is why you saw him say , you know, youve got donald trump talking about the migrants poisoning the blood of our country, or talking about, you know, the socalled crime wave and other things. And that is contrary to the way that President Biden thinks and feels about this issue. And i did get the very clear sense that he knows he made a mistake and he was very eager to make amends for that mistake. Yeah. Let me play for you donald trump responding to bidens apology in that interview. Watch they just told me prior to what i am doing right now that joe biden went on television and apologized for calling lakins murder and illegal. He didnt want to call him and illegal. He said he should have called him an undocumented, not an illegal. He wanted to apologize. He wanted to apologize. Your thoughts on that, jonathan . Is proving the president s point about how hurtful that languages. And, you know, lets not forget, this isnt just about people having tender feelings and tender hearts and thinking that folks are being overly sensitive grade it is because of language like that used by donald trump and used by folks on the far right that people have incentivized to put targets on the backs of latinos and hispanics in this country. Lets not forget that a walmart was shot up by somebody, a walmart that was frequented by lot people. This shooter targeted latinos because, if memory serves, he was concerned about a, quote, invasion, which is another word that trump has used and was using at the time. So words have power in these kinds of words that degrade and dehumanize people, particularly from folks on the right, have dangerous power. Yeah. A very important reminder of that as well. Let me ask you about Foreign Policy for second, because the president , joe biden, mentioned that William Burns is in the middle east now as they are working on a ceasefire, hopefully before the start of ramadan on monday. Did you get any indication or sense of the president would be open to a permanent ceasefire, which is what the thousands of folks across the country have been protesting for and pressing him to declare . Not just a temporary one but a permanent one. Does he still have the hope that it might be achieved before monday . Let me take the first part of your question about the ceasefire. Yes. I think the president wants the ceasefire but i think from what he said and from what we have heard from other folks in the administration, a sixweek ceasefire, the hope is that if they can nail that down, then it will be selfperpetuating. That you get that and then the incentives happen and then you get another week or you get another six weeks. The hope is to build to a permanent ceasefire, but i do think that the president s ultimate goal is a permanent ceasefire. What was the second part of your question, ayman . It has been a long day. I hear you. It was whether or not he is still optimistic it can be achieved by monday. Or has that split a little bit . He is optimistic that a deal can be reached. I do not know if he thinks that it can be done by friday, but what was telling to me about his answer was saying that the cia director is there. Even though hamas left cairo a couple of days ago, we have to remember that just because people leave the table doesnt mean that negotiations end. And that was a signal to me that even though hamas has left, that doesnt mean that this policy stopped. And then this age that we are in, how can diplomacy stop when youve got cell phones, youve got internet, youve got all sorts of things so that you can keep the conversation going . I am pretty sure that the president wont be surprised if the deal is intrigued by monday, but that doesnt mean that he and the administration wont keep pushing and trying to get a ceasefire done. Already. My friend Jonathan Capehart with an exclusive interview with our president , joe biden. Great job, jonathan. Safe travels. We will see you tomorrow. Take care. Thank you, ayman, very much. Next, can the rsc now officially renamed itself the tmc . We will explain. In the cupholder doesnt make it togo. And you know how to brake, without breaking everything. And youre definitely not doing okay, i dont even know what this is, but youre definitely not doing that. With allstate youre connected to a rate based on you. eggs make all our Family Moments better. Especially when theyre egglands best. Taste so fresh and amazing. deliciously superior nutrition, too. For us, its eggs any style. As long as theyre the best. 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They installed a new Leadership Team handpicked by trump himself they picked North Carolina republican chairman Michael Watley as the new chairman and trumps daughterin law, laura trump, as cochair. Now, with the parties new leadership in place, the rnc is facing next net turtle, raising money. They need cash on hand for trump and his allies. That number, 65 million. Lara trump noted the cash crunch during an acceptance and she claims to have secured some that day, but then she said, who actually wrote the check . As new money comes in, questions are arising over how that money will be spent with an increasing number of the ex president s reporters urging the rnc to open up its coffers for trumps mounting legal bills. Even members of congress are calling on the party to crack open its bank for the ex president s personal legal problems. They say they want to build trump out, and marco rubio told reporters, i believe so. Senator Lindsey Graham said he wouldnt have checked if the parties campaign arm came to the disgraced former President S Aid and said he would leave it up to the rnc to figure out the best way forward. I just we need to help our non ami nominee as best as we can. Isnt this the guy who was a self acclaimed billionaire . On friday, the expresident took a step towards combating that growing legal tab, posting a 91 million bond along with a notice to appeal in the e. Jean carroll defamation case. A drop in the bucket. Remember, trump is still on hold for 164 million for his Civil Fraud Judgment and that amount continues to grow by the day due to interest. Despite claiming any deposition for the fraud case to have, quote, substantially in excess 400 million in cash on hand, late last month, trump asked them to reduce the bond amount to just 100 million, cautioning that he might have to Sell Properties to get that cash. While the Court Declines to lower the amount, it did grant trumps request to pause your band that barred him from presuming loans from banks in new york, potentially allowing him to collect funds for his bond. Although donald trump got himself into this financial mess, it is now clear he is doing everything in his power to have someone else clean it up and pay for it. Here to discuss that and more, we have molly, host of the past fast politics podcast david jolly, and analyst. Molly, i will start with you. Trump hasnt yet secured the gop nomination but he has installed his loyalist at the rnc , a signal of what could come. Along with Michael Watley and his daughterinlaw, lara trump, the expresident Senior Campaign adviser, Chris Lacivita , will also be the rncs chief operating officer. Is the maga takeover of the gop officially complete . Yeah. I mean, look for it i think it has been this way for a long time. Remember, even when she took that job, she still had to take the romney out of her name. So there has a lot of trump appeasement, but i would say that what is pretty interesting about that is that they kind of ended up being removed because they werent killing it with the fundraising. So they put rumps daughterin law. I dont know if that will help with the fundraising. I mean, some of what is happening is that these large donors have some pods about pain a billionaires legal fees, as they well said. I am not convinced, the theatrics of her holding up a trump and not a huge surprise. And then trump later ripped using to answer questions about it that is very trump like friend. But she is not in a position to raise money and then you have donors who had relationships with ronna are now like, what did you do to our person . So this may ultimately backfire on trumps world. Congressman jolly, this new Leadership Team that furthered trump claim of election rod. How dangerous is it . To our political process leaders. They do the expresident s dirty work for him. It is incredibly dangerous. I think that the concern does not need to be as much about if lara trump can turn around fundraising. Maybe she will funnel money in trump world. I think it is how she directs this, and to your point, ayman, does it get directed in the direction of Donald Trumps legal bills . I believe it will. Absolutely, without question. And the Republican National committee will now go to pay his bills. How does that relate to your specific question against this . That would mean that the Republican National committee, as an organization, as a party, very well may be supporting Donald Trumps defense or past legal bills as it relates to now being held liable for sexual assault. Will some of that go to the e. Jean carroll case because trump says he was unfairly targeted . Some of his followers believe that. Will it go to defend the instruction he caused against the United States . Because now this goes beyond donald trump and it is about the Republican National committee. When you show quotes like those from marco rubio and Lindsey Graham, this is their blessing of all of Donald Trumps malfeasance, and where he has already been found culpable for civil liability. The rnc now owns this, and lara trump will make sure they own it and donald trump will celebrate that ownership. Molly, the rnc has tried to tamp down the concerns from some members who already worried about the group. His daughterinlaw, to the congressmans point, has said that she thought the idea would receive broad support among the parties base. Why are Trump Supporters so willing to hand over their money to a man who claims to be worth tens of dollars . Why do they fall for the graft that is trump . You know, it is a question as old as 2015. Right . None of us really know. He has got some type of bold on his face, god knows why. But i do think he is going to run through that money pretty fast. When trump was holding up that check, 100,000 is like a retainer for a lot of these lawyers. So i am not convinced by the way, i mean, the money on trumps legal bills is worse than spending the money on lakes second statewide campaign in two years. What this party is up to is so wild. But again, trump has controlled the party. He always has. Marco rubio is yet another person who has yet to be destroyed by trump and it is just sort of a shell of a person at this point. Congressman, do you think there is any legal problem here for the rnc to undertake this . Just from your experience in politics, what do the rules say about what the rnc can and cannot do for somebody like donald trump . And certainly with the nepotism of having his daughterinlaw in this powerful position. Yeah. It really comes down to the internal organizational roles in the rnc and then the contributions they make to their donors. You saw these fundraising solicitations. If you read the fine print, 90 of this is basically going to donald trump for some other activity than what the donor actually thinks they are contributing to. But you do see resistance within the rnc. You saw a member of the committee itself make a motion that circulated saying that they prohibit the use of funds for Donald Trumps legal bills. Ultimately, that did not succeed. That was withdrawn. The reason the member offered it is because a number of republicans actually do think that the contributions in the rnc should be used to elect republican candidates, not to repay his legal bills. This was not a primary we just saw. This was a coronation where donald trump affirmed this complete control of the party. If you want some money for his leg