welcome to "the beat: weekend." let us get right into the headlines. >> i noticed some of you strongly vote against. they are cheering on that money but if any do not want that money in your district, let me know. the border patrol unit has endorsed the spell. the federal chamber of commerce -- you are saying, no. look at the facts. i know you know how to read. no, you do not want another $2 trillion tax cut ? i kind of thought that was your plan was. that is good to hear. now, my predecessor, a former republican president tells putin , quote, do what ever you want. it is outrageous. it is dangerous and it is unacceptable. >> that was the tone we heard from the president last night. i will walk through exactly why this matter so much. this was more than just a good speech, according to many. that would be today's current standards. it was obviously a strong speech by biden standards because he is a person who, let's remember, is a respectful traditional aspirate that is part of his thing and that has met his patriarch appeals to bipartisanship, his calm and stage whisper at times. but he is not always known for these political barn burners. that is what he did last night and he double down on it as we saw moments ago with his speech in pennsylvania on the campaign trail. what about the longer historical standards of how state of the union speeches work? the time notes this is one of the confrontational speech is a any present has offered from the house rostrum. all the talk about his age, he was clearly determined to dispel voter doubts. the times mentioned is 81 and use this platform in the election-year to speak to what is, quote, likely the largest tv internet audience he will address before november. to exhibit his stamina, vitality and capacity and, yes, his own bridge. his investment by to dispense with the conventions of the format directly take on former president donald trump and make this election a referendum on his predecessor drop rather than himself, and that quote. that is new york times taking this into a historical level. there is only one caveat to their mention of this largest audience the present will see until november. that is why this matters more than a lot of the noise out of washington but this impeachment vote for a cabinet member, this house vote, the failed vote, that is a lot of the washington staff. he goes in and out of the news audience and in and out of the internet political audience. we care about that. towns of meza more americans took in the speech last night. as for the largest audience? back and come at the debates but those typically do drop more people. that is a shared stage. this was the president stage last night. it was not just the new york times. this speech, which you have had time to absorb, if you watch it live or clips online or watch news coverage today or other people talk about it. this speech from this president has been attacked in so many ways for many reasons. i can say because we checked it has garnered positive reaction from a whole range of people, professionals, journalists and media outlets, including on fox. >> reporter: he addressed his a's issue with his aggressive, feisty ad lib. delivery. >> words like fiery britney like he was impassioned but he was upset. >> a lot of people are talking about this being one of the finest moments of joe biden's presidency. >> he was basking in the moment. >> i thought he was fabulous. >> he reassured, i would imagine, some of his detractors. >> he came to do a task that is a executed >> i pictured trump just going nuts watching it. >> it is clear that biden did what he needed you to unify his party. >> joe shut up and five. >> it was give him meets ronald reagan as city shining brightly on the hill for all the world to see. >> that is joe scarborough sang a little bit of the shining brightly, shine bright like a diamond as rihanna might put it. that is how a lot of folks took this in. as for this age thing, let us be clear but it will not be wished away and is not going to melt away this year. these are two of the oldest people to ever run for president. it applies to both of them. one of them is the current present, the oldest ever, and the other a former president to be one of the oldest presidents ever. we do not typically have presence that my presence in their 80s in a second term. it is not a biden specific thing. it is part of what has been going on and is here and that applies to both of them. moments ago we heard the president joke about how people thought he would not be around, i should say for much longer. that is the same present trying to make light or just saying, i may not win, you thought i might die soon. he twisted that around to say, i have been counted out before. do not count out the american middle class but do not canopy comeback we are in the midst of. all of this is the middle of politics. biden said that moments ago and last night he was clear about both addressing and rebutting this narrative about his age. >> when you get to be my age, certain things become clearer than ever. i know the american story. again and again i have seen the contest between competing forces and the battle for the soul of our nation. hey, anger, revenge and retribution of oldest ideas. you cannot lead america with ancient ideas. >> there you have it. he referred to that again on the campaign stop today talking about what is going on in the country? the president of the night, moments ago, talk about the hate and the vitriol and the decline of any common factors, civic engagement. he worked -- he refers to that civic decay offers something else, a rebuttal to what he called the agent atavistic and fundamentally failed old ideas. there is something interesting. it is obviously older elderly gentlemen but those are just the words but is not an insult to refer to the truth. this older man with all of his experience championing his newer ideas, going towards the future in 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in the fraud case. he might have to sell some of his properties to pay the penalty, which means he is not in a long -- and elon musk level billionaire preview about your having to selling to post bond. trump claims he is not concerned. >> how close are you you to concern the bonner what you need for vacuum >> i have a lot of money. i can do what i want to do. >> you're not worried? >> i don't worry about the money. >> we are here with our guest, professor murray, he owes us money and if you talk to people comes about this they say, nothing works is he ever going to be held accountable in civil cases, money is only thing you're held accountable for. in this case, the new york times and the fraud case, when it is due, he has to pay even if he wants to appeal. >> there is a lot of attention on the four criminal cases. it is worth remembering that the civil cases are also real sources of accountability. he is going to be on the hook for serious financial penalties. he has posted bonds, as you say. there are consequences associated with the financial loss as well as the other penalties including limiting doing business in the state of new york from that case about the overstating of his assets to the new york state regulators. these are forms of accountability. they are probably not what people are looking for in terms of accountability but they are real and they have teeth and they stick. >> this case about something important, and your, which is that e. jean carroll decide over the course of her life to try to hold him accountable for what the court said was a liability for sexual assault and his lies about it. this is a civil case. there is no other thing except for the money. does it matter that he has to post this bond if he does not win the appeal he will pay out as much. >> there is two ways in which it matters but one is for the actual plaint is, whether it is e. jean carroll, who is jury found sexually assaulted and defamed repeatedly. and for the state of new york that has a judgment that found that there was a broad and money that needs to be discourse by donald trump. that is one level of accountability and it is one thing that is important that those plaintiffs recover what they are owed. that has been determined by judges and juries. the second is, it raises issues about where donald trump is getting this money. we know from the first bond that was posted today that is about $90 million. there still is another segment to about $450 million. one down, but a lot more to go. the issue is, is he going to beholden to someone? we know that somehow he got a bond. i'm interested in knowing that someone, for instance, have to cosign for was there somewhat individual there, who he is beholden to the same thing -- >> using that because you biggest current financial condition with easily get the bond? >> i don't. we met you think he is one of these kids that was to manhattan and has his parents cosign the apartment? >> why are you laughing? >> you are funny. no one is saying that >> you do have students that at nyu who need their parents to get housing. we met true. i do think andrew raises real concern to me like he has a lot of money from his dad. >> he did get a lot of money from his dad. >> we have a real point. >> we have a point here. entry is making a good point. if he needs to get us money from someone, who the person is, whether he is beholden to them. what are the underwriting look like him who is cosigning? what are they garin towards available to that end in order to cosign. there is this other $500 million that will have to come through for the fraud case. who is going to underwrite that ? do we have someone who is on the ballot to be present who will be financially beholden to interest that we, the american public, do not about? >> just to be clear, he has to, in order to put up and get a bond, had to put up unencumbered assets. meeting money and assets that are not already pledged for something else. we know that he has outstanding loans. you get loan by putting up those assets. to get this $90 million bond from chubb, the issues how did he get vacuum or is there a person there? what assets are being pledged i am interested in the cosigning of a bond. stay with me, elon musk says i did not give him any money. that does not mean he did not sign a bond. if you are chubb, you might say i will give us but i need a guarantee, to melissa's point. this is a journalistic having. it is pushing on trump to know what the details and the public really does have a reason to know. >> there is a saying, word is bond. i don't know if you've heard that ? >> i have. >> word is not bond if you need, as andrew says, someone behind you. a lot of the stuff does not stay secret for ever. there is a cosign behind them or a phantom silent supporter who has their reasons for staying silent. as you both raise the issue, does the public have a right to know if they have a would be present with this level of debt ? and who 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colombo. and the task force where they had him in that role. you see him there, younger but not wiser. melissa and gender have teamed up to write the new book i mentioned that you may have heard about on the four criminal trials. you can google amazon or go to your local bookstore right now to type into your internet browser. the trump indictments, the charging documents with commentary. that is their legal commentary and a book for the ages. welcome to both of you. >> thank you per >> i want to shut it a worthwhile project. >> as you know, were about to head into the new york criminal trial. there is three other trials. there is a disconnect between what will happen in court and what people understand about the legal system. not everyone is a criminal lawyer. between our two expertise is with melissa being totally steeped in constitutional law and having followed, for instance, dealing with the immunity issue, the disqualification issue better in the supreme court. i have been a criminal lawyer mostly on the defense side. we really want to do what you do daily, which is to help translate what is about to happen to the american public. this way, they can read it, and have the tools to understand what is going on. this cannot be a more stark time . the first trial that we will have because someone was a sitting president it is really important that people understand each and everything that is going on. >> we are big fans of you on the "the beat" >> i am a big fan of "the beat" >> this project you are doing has a premise. the premise is you do not have to go to law school before you buy the book. >> a person is interested in these issues shutter, can and should read the underlying actual charging indictments. explained that premise. >> these four indictments are meant for public consumption. jack smith in the january 6th indictment and the mar-a-lago indictment, speaking indictments -- these are narratives that will explain to the public why this person is being charged with the theory of the case is. they are for the public. that is the case due for alvin bragg's indictment and fani willis' and there is some granularity here. we wanted to explain the choices that were being made. explain some of the procedural aspects so that everyone could approach these documents, not with anxiety because they are unfamiliar and no knowledge but knowing they have the tools to review these documents. get help when they needed it. but to ultimately read them in their entirety and understand the moment and make their own conclusions. >> andrew, all people are created equal. endowed by their creator -- but not all cases are equal. in the book, i noticed you say, it is not clear the new york falsification business records case, which is not trial. it is not clear that the underlying statute contemplates the project of a federal crime as a predicate crime to render a statement with a charge of felony. in other words d.a. bragg may have overstepped. the book goes on to state where the new york what is it intended for only these state offenses to serve as the crime to enhance estate misdemeanors to state-level felonies these are open legal questions that are likely to be pursued during trial. explain to us why it is important to understand some cases. it sounds like you found two problems with the theory of the case against trump in new york. >> this is a good example of what we want people to do. understand this as deep as they wanted to go but you are raising super in the weeds on an important legal issue. >> you raised it. >> true. and also, exactly. it is tough. this has to do with something that people have really come to understand. what was charged in this case is false business records. those are misdemeanors, normally. unless you are intending to do it in connection with some of a crime the legal issues are many as to what those other crimes are. these have been charged as felonies. the state had four different theories for why these 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[♪ music playing ♪] the supreme court unanimously ruled to keep donald trump on the presidential ballot. a decision rejecting the state effort to try to brand -- band trunk legally and keep them off the ballot this year. it is big news, no matter how you slice a bit many headlines about it breaking today. big for a nation about over trump and his legal lows big for an election that is intertwined between trump's efforts to overthrow the last election loss and his efforts to run right now. the supreme court is involved because there is no way around dealing with what trump has wrought. this is also big news for the court itself with had to resolve an election question long before voting begins. as the times reported this decision was the most important ruling concerning a presidential election since bush v. goor headed to president bush in 2000 the most important ruling in 25 years. and that is how it played out as the news broke. >> reporter: one of the legal questions over the 24 election has been resolved. >> reporter: in a unanimous decision of the u.s. supreme court keeps donald trump on the ballot, not just in colorado, but across the entire nation. >> reporter: a monumental supreme court decision. >> reporter: huge, unanimous decision today. reverse colorado's decision to ban donald trump from its primary ballot. >> reporter: what the supreme court has done, already, is consequential to the presidential election. >> this fast and relatively short ruling, which we got today , is, indeed, consequential. it draws lines on how this year's election will run. is maxed down state efforts to invoke january 6th as a reason on its own, to bartram from running at all. the court ruled, quite simply, states do not have the power over federal candidates, only congress does. states have no power, under the constitution, to enforce a pallet banner for insurrectionist with respect to federal offices. the highlighting, i will leave that up for a moment is important you understand and remember nothing else but all of this, is that states deal with states but states do not have the same power to deal with federal offices. that is what the supreme court ruled today. all the justices agreed on that point. it was one raised by obama appointee during arguments for this very case. >> i think that the question that you have to confront is by a single state should decide who gets to be president of the united states. >> the question there slicing through colorado's argument as well as some of the other technicalities in this case. today's ruling built on that angle but the justices noting there is no tradition of state enforcement of an indiscretion qualification against federal canada in the years following the ratification of this relevant amendment. they go on to write that is a telling indication of a severe constitutional problem with state efforts here. in history, that is just true. it was a new, unprecedented bid for states to try to take the terrible horrors of january 6th and then cite them for a potentially new power that states, alone, could decide who engages in insurrection. and then two, states would bar federal candidates from those state ballots. we reported on this at the time . we spoke with the secretary of state for colorado, jenna griswold and discussed the fact that the federal can is being barred by states was not a thing. legally, it did not seem like something the supreme court would now make a thing in an election year, no less. today, i will walk you through what happened. some of it has one my and summit hits another way. i will do it, i promise right now in plain english. today, all nine justices reach the same judgment. that means the just appointed by trump and the justices appointed by obama and the other presidents, they all actually share the same legal conclusion that in a time of great division and understandable cynicism about whether more and more rulings are based on politics and not any independent law. that this kind of ruling shows some cases turn more than more than it benefits. in other words, you cannot predict today's ruling by whether the judges were appointed by obama or appointed by trump or appointed by any other particular party. at least in what this ruling does. that is a kind of good news. but, there is a but. i am going to walk you through the other issue tonight. we are not reporting on this because he want to or we welcome some expection -- exception to that good news but if they had that discipline than that is all we would port on a go right to our gas. there is more. because separate from what you might call the good news for the rule of law tonight, there are actions and statements by this court, which also reveal that that type of nonpartisanship only go so far. this court was unanimous and the outcome that means unanimous in the judgment but it was not at all united in how to make this ruling. in other words, what is in the ruling and what it says. all nine judges says they can concur in the judgment. some of the democratic employees made that point by saying, we concur only in the judgment. that is how they put it. that is because five of the republican appointees seized on this state case to go way beyond the issue at hand. state power. and just add new rules that they meet up today for what they say are the required treatment of potential insurrectionist in the federal contacts. that is a sweeping and anti- conservative kind of judicial reach. it is also the kind of thing that the same justices, who you see on the screen, the kind of thing they claim they are against. they have said that in their nomination hearings and other places. one measure of how far they went . if you are watching this and saying, okay, the news anchor is saying they went far. even the democrat appointees are saying they went far. does that mean they went really far? one measure of this is what justice barrett did. she is a trump appointee. she concurred that the states do not have these powers. flatly called out the majority for overstepping and going beyond the necessities of today's case to limit how the constitution can bar an oath breaking insurrectionist from becoming president. some of this debate does get into the weeds. we can get more into the weeds later in the hour, if you want to stay around but for right now i will tell you, the bottom line, four justices concurred because they think the majority use this case as a power grab in ways that would currently only help trump. justice kavanaugh went farther than he otherwise would because of who this helps, not because any judicial or legal principle. that is what the other justices suggested their concurrence. here is why. no other candidates have been indicted for january 6th activities. no other candidates face any credible criminal or legal process about dealing with insurrections. the fact that the court, in the majority, what well beyond what had to do on the state parish and talked about new federal rules for how to deal with potential insurrectionist, whoever that may be -- we all know who that may be. it only maybe donald trump and i say that literally but it may be donald trump or legally it may not. we are a nation of laws and there is a criminal process to determine his guilt. there is no one else around you is saying, good, they made new rules made it harder to go after insurrectionist but there's another federal candidates for president in that position. that is one reason today's ruling is unanimous in its holding but not some kind of pure light nonpartisan moment. there is a second reason, it comes in the timing initial action today. let me put it like this. i am here reporting to you on the news tonight about a supreme court ruling. did you know the supreme court was not even open today it was not in session. you may recall the spring court is a special body but it is not like the post office but it is open in certain seasonal and certain days and other days it is closed. that makes sense because they hear cases and they think about cases. when it is open they meet or rule. today was not one of those days. there was no meetings in the court today. there was no rulings right from the bench at all. indeed, i will emphasize it further. as you think about what a big court day looks like you have caught it on tv before but there were no reported out front awaiting the action out of the court. there was no news trucks or crowd like we have seen in active court days over the years. i have been out front of that court on many days during the big session days. it is a whole scene, let alone the big decisions are expected. those are at the end of the term. it is a whole busy scene. that is not today. the court was literally closed today. yet, and yet, this court in its conservative majority decided to do something different to issue a ruling today. even though i told you they were actually close. the building was closed down. what happened? turns out at least these conservative justices are tuned to certain electoral condition even as they keep claiming otherwise. here is how the washington post reported this aspect today. the court clearly has a high awareness of the election calendars and the justices took the unusual step of announcing this opinion on the supreme court's website on a day when the court is not in session. instead of using it that's what i should say, is that issuing it from the bench later this month. they did not use the normal way to issue edward they will issue it later on the rest of the opinions. today's opinion went up online on the website. the washington post is making an astute point here. i emphasize it because it seems to pierce the other d.c. tradition of taking the court at his word when it says, we do not do politics but we don't think about external factors. we are just in here weighing justice and never looking at which candidate is affected. well, this court does do that. lately, it has been doing that a lot but according to the evidence we have, but the post points out today about the unusual way to issue the opinion that the court rush this ruling out on his website to get its answer about the ballot issue out there, as super tuesday hits tomorrow. it is result of the court has already been working towards by fast tracking this case. they were the original case and publish the decision within one month. as in prior eras, other courts have shown similar haste. furbush v. gore prame it took under a week to appeal the decision moyer and judges know deadlines very well. they know how they can be met and used and in the space where there is so much talk about uniformity, people getting equal treatment, we can see how the judges have been very noticeably treating certain trump cases differently. there is a one that made all the news last week. trump losing his appeal of his immunity claims. those are loser arguments. just i told you colorado is unlikely to win because they have no precedent. the immunity argument has no precedent on inside. there's no case you can point to that says a former president, you are an invincible superhero never goes on trapper the court is still delaying things in that case. now, if you look at trump's federal trial it was scheduled to begin today. jack smith has won every round reiterating trump is not immune from this court is not using the colorado or bush v. gore calendar. at this rate the court has added about three more weeks in a hearing of that case from agreeing with the actual argument than the colorado scheduled that it used arguments now set for late april . that process could take so long that they continue to add here, five weeks there. push it out to the end of the time they release opinions. maybe it does not get the special rush website decision process that today got. they could lay publishing a ruling until so late there may be no trial. >> reporter: we got this decision on the colorado, the 14th amendment ballot question very quickly. >> reporter: they are doing this on the eve of super tuesday. it gives us some sense this report is looking up the political counter, not a legal calendar. >> reporter: we just heard from former president trump. one of the things he praises from court for was roaming quickly. remember the timing of the supreme court is now almost as important in the united states as the substance of the decisions. if they really believe that, they will move fast on the immunity case. >> there you have it. sometimes it is what people do not do that is telling. sometimes it is the way that justices decide to duck and cover. other times decide to jump out will be on the issue at hand. there was no question about congress or federal powers in this way teed up to the court. they decided to answer at best batch. this is what the supreme court can do. earns his title as supreme. we have an appeal beyond desperate if they take a case that is mostly about estate ballot issue and issued new guidance or rules, those become law of the land, the supreme ruling. i'm not telling you that there is some unprecedented judicial crisis today. not at all. i am telling you that three justices appointed by people like biden and obama and even a trumbull point he had to call the court for going that far. i am telling you what could have been, apparently, umana miss nainma and is your moment for america wasn't. the reason it wasn't tells us more than just white trump will stay on the colorado ballot, which was probably going to be the result months ago. >> thanks for watching transport be sure to join us for the the "the beat" on msnbc. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. meet the traveling trio. the thrill seeker. the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect 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