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did he put up buildings? which buildings? what were the value of those buildings? if he got another person to underwrite the bond for him, who is that person to whom he is now beholden, just as he is pulled into this insurance company that is underwriting the bond? >> we, of course, covering all the days new developers for you. we are going to start with aaron gilchrist, traveling with the president in atlanta. erin? >> reporter: president biden is set to receive major endorsements here in atlanta today. meanwhile, just 70 miles away, former president trouble be rallying his base, trying to win over voters in a state he narrowly lost four years ago. with the general election effectively underway, president biden launching his post state of the union tour the philadelphia suburbs on friday with the first lady, telling the crowd democracy is at stake. >> above all i see country for all americans. futures for all americans. a presidency for all americans. because i believe in america, i believe in you. >> reporter: the campaign kickoff after the president's fiery address to the nation. partly his support on the state of the union. >> the state of our union is strong and getting stronger. >> reporter: partly an energized and feisty pitch for re-election. >> i will not bow down. >> reporter: voters here in georgia reacting to the president's speech, saying he showed he is ready for the general election ahead. >> super energetic. state organized, kept delivering punch after punch. the same, saying things i wanted to say. >> he might be a little elderly, but he is saying and he is a kind man. the other one is old, too, but he's crazy. and dangerous. >> reporter: the presumptive republican nominee, former president donald trump on friday having a photo op with hungarian prime minister victor orban, widely seen as one of europe's greatest autocrats. >> not a controversial figure, he says this is the way it's going to be and he does that. he's the boss. >> reporter: at the same time, trump dealing with legal troubles, posting a $91 million bond and filing an appeal in the e. jean carroll defamation case where she won an $83 million verdict. tonight, trump returning to georgia for the first time since turning himself into the fulton county jail last august, when charges related to the 2020 presidential election. trump and biden set to stump in the crucial swing state biden narrowly won in 2020, holding dueling rallies for key voting blocs physically miles apart, with president biden answering trumps challenge to a face-off. >> would you commit to a debate with former president trump? >> reporter: tonight, three political action committees representing asian, black, and latino groups will endorse president biden's re-election. with that endorsement comes $30 million in support and more visibility in these key groups the president will need to win re-election. alex? >> okay, thank you for that. bringing you right now live pictures of president biden having just arrived in atlanta aboard air force one. he and donald trump are holding dueling campaign events in georgia today. we are going to see if the president stops to speak with reporters, and if he does so, once he disembarked there from air force one, we may get you that live video. let go right now to keep an eye on our control booth about this, it to the breaking news on the war in gaza. the u.s. airdropped tens of thousands of meals and water bottles into northern gaza today, as part of an international surge of humanitarian aid as extreme hunger plagues that territory. nbc foreign correspondent molly hunter is following the story for us from london. molly, another welcome to you. what more we learning about these efforts to get aid into gaza today, it is there any chance of a cease-fire agreement before ramadan begins? >> that's right, alex, ramadan is expected to begin tomorrow or in the next couple of days. we heard from president biden specifically on that, that it is looking tough and certainly no sign tonight from the region that there is a cease-fire deal in sight. i want to bring you up to speed on that time core door. this is brand-new and expected to be launched this weekend. it is a newly secured maritime core door, a mission supported by the u.s., the eu, as well as two organizations. open arms, a spanish organization, and world central kitchen that we are very familiar with. what we see on your screen, that is the open arms. this shift will take two or three days, it will pull a barge loaded with 200 tons of rice and flour. it will then get of the coast of gaza to an undisclosed location. pontoon boats will take it ashore, and according to the organizers, world central kitchen teams already in gaza have built a dock to basically start unloading that and start distributing that. especially to northern gaza, to the people who need it most. this comes after the u.s. and president biden on thursday, we heard again from the pentagon yesterday. the u.s. announced its new plan to build a temporary peer to get more aid into gaza. take a look at what the pentagon said about that. >> in terms of timing, we are working to set this up as quickly as possible, but we expect it will take several weeks to plan and execute. once operational, the actual amount of aid delivered will depend on many variables and will likely scale over time. however, we expect that deliveries could provide more than 2 million meals to the citizens of gaza per day. >> that's a lot, but that is not enough. he went on to say it could take up to 60 days, so if you months, and will require 1000 u.s. troops. very clear to say no american boots actually on the ground, but a lot of criticism from european allies from the united nations and international organizations in particular. at the u.s., they are kind of coming up with these workaround last resort solution, which is what the u.n. called air drops. that is what they call the secor door, as opposed to pressuring their closest ally to let more aid in by truck, which is the safest and most efficient. actually very strong words, i know we talked about this in the last hour, as well. but the u.n. special repertoire for the right to food called them absurd, these ideas. they said they will do very little to alleviate hunger, malnutrition, and do nothing to slow down famine. really desperate times, especially in northern gaza, and that aid is not getting to people who needed the most. >> molly, very sobering. thank you so much for that live report from london. joining the studio, the democratic congressman from california, sarah dake's. she sits on the house foreign affairs and armed service committee. let's get into what molly was talking about her there. we had a president who said look, we're going to build this. okay, and yet there are many who criticize and say why not do, as molly was suggesting, and use the truck convoys. let's get aid and that much more quickly, use and pressure, what are your thoughts on that? >> i think the ability to get as much aid in is important, and all the various levers we have to do that should be fun. we know the humanitarian situation. there is existing u.s. law that says our allies, anyone we are working with has to allow humanitarian assistance. so absolutely think that is right. we need to be doing more to make sure that israel lets more aid in. but at the end of the day the only way to really make sure we are addressing the famine like conditions is to get a permanent and immediate cease- fire, for hamas to release the hostages, for benjamin netanyahu to stop his indiscriminate bombing campaign that we know is not actually militarily doing what it needs to do. there is no military way to defeat hamas. >> as her watching, the president, who has now disembarked from air force one, being greeted on the tarmac in atlanta. we are going to keep a listen and see if he takes any reporter questions, and which we may interrupt our conversation and continue on the other side. this particular course of the present reference during a state of the union speech, is going to take two months and 1000 troops, allegedly, to get this thing operational. why now, and does it suggest anything like this going to be needed and going on for quite some time? >> look, i think it took a long time to get agreements by all of the countries necessary to get this core door open. it is not just a unilateral thing. those negotiations always take some time. i think it is a recognition of just how bad the humanitarian situation inside of gaza has gotten, where even when the fighting stops we will need to flood and humanitarian assistance. at the end of the day they are getting assistance into gaza and getting it distributed within gaza, and we need to be working to make sure both of those things, including making sure israel is allowing as much military and aid in as possible. >> and this is something you're focusing on. i want you to tell her viewers as you join us democrats and cosigning letters to president biden this week as he won about israel's impending invasion where people are seeking refuge. it likely violates biden's new memorandum ensuring military operation supported by u.s. tax dollars. don't violate american or international humanitarian law. so, what do you hope the president's next move is on behalf of having received that letter? >> i am very concerned about the prospect of an invasion by the idf. i think it would be catastrophic, especially because we know so many gazans are there now, having with their to seek some shelter. i know president biden has been addressing this directly with minister netanyahu. i support the biden administration's effort to make sure they are doing everything they can to get to a cease-fire deal. we need an immediate and permanent cease-fire right now, and we need hamas to release the hostages, and we need this indeterminate bombing campaign to end. >> wedding you know that my producer in the booth said that the president did not stop to speak with reporters. will continue on. he has certainly been on the campaign trail, that is part of the reason why he is there in atlanta right now. after the fiery state of the union speech he gave on thursday. talk about the split screen that is out there as a result of this fire a campaign speech. did it change the trajectory of things with president biden right now? >> you know, i think the expectations going into the stated union were very high. i was in the room, the energy was amazing. it was amazing, and i think he really drew out the contrast of what we are talking about. whether or not we want to look towards the future and build on the progress we made, whether or not we want to protect our democracy and continue to live up to the ideals of our country, or whether we want to go back to the old ideals of xenophobia, racism, and trying to take our country backwards. i'm excited for the american people to get to see president biden on the campaign trail. see what i see behind the scenes all the time about his energy, about how he handles himself in these difficult circumstances. and i think as it becomes clearer and clearer that these are two choices that the state of the selection will become clearer, too. >> and apparently about 18% more americans watch this year state of the union over last year's state of the union, so more americans were tuning in for this one. in the republican response to the state of the union, you had the junior freshman backed senator from alabama, katie brennan. really lambasting president biden on a wide range of issues, which she called the kitchen table issues, things she thinks americans are concerned about. immigration, the economy, and the like. as president biden meeting those americans on those issues? is congressional gridlock hurting his ability to campaign on those issues? >> i respect senator britt a lot, as two of the youngest women in congress. i did not know was getting ready to watch a lifetime movie when i was watching the response. but look, i don't know what kitchen table she is sitting at. the ones i imagine, people are really concerned about the cost of living. they are concerned about the right reproductive healthcare. and that is exactly what president biden is talking about. he released new proposals for how to address the cost of housing. he has prioritized making sure that we are trying to do more to address the childcare crisis in this country. that is what i am hearing about around the kitchen table. and i think the american people, and particularly the ones who sat around the kitchen table really want a positive forward-looking vision, not this doom and gloom and fear mongering we are seeing from the other side. >> okay, i'm so glad you made time to stop in here today. my friend, sarah jacobs, congressman from california. unpacking the supreme court decision about the colorado ballot, and whether it clears the way for insurrectionist run for federal office. we are back in 60 seconds. 5% apy? 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does allow candidates to invoke it for federal office? and the court said no, only congress can enact legislation that would set forth the criteria by which that section should be enforced. so, in the wake of this opinion, it means that congress either has to pass a statute which defines the circumstances by which someone could be disqualified under this provision, or could, on its own, decide that a person has, by vote on that individual circumstance, engage in insurrection. congress is not always functional, certainly in any bipartisan way, to pass legislation. so it does not seem to be a prospect that they're going to take at this issue anytime soon. >> which begs this question. do you worry the ruling could lead to another january 6th crisis? >> i don't think the ruling leads to another january 6th type crisis. i think the discourse in our politics makes that more likely, as long as we have people continuing to protect perpetuate the lie of election fraud. it is absolutely possible that we could have another constitutional crisis. i don't think it is the court that does that, i think that is where we are in terms of our discourse in this country. >> so justices wrote, where they agree they cannot and states cannot enforce section 3 and federal races, attending to insulate all alleged insurrectionist from future challenges. as you know, tim, last november that guy on our screen, the convicted file documents to run for congress. what happened to this idea of keeping insurrectionist for holding prominent office? >> yeah, i think the dissent suggested that the court went too far, by not just saying states can't do it, but actually affirmatively requiring congress to do it. they could've just said no, states can't do it. and stopped. that would've been sort of the restrained physician that court typically takes on difficult issues. but the majority went further and says this requires congressional action. so again, in order for people like him to be excluded under section 3 of the 14th amendment, congress must act. again, either a law that would say here are the consequences, the circumstances that will be applied and who can do it, or they have to take a vote. and given the polarization in congress, that is externally difficult to achieve, particularly on political matters like this. so the concern is that because of the intractability of congress and their inability to get anything done, this essentially will make section three of the 14th amendment louder for its historical purpose. >> a lawyer who represented voters electing to drop on the illinois ballot, noting conclusions by authorities in illinois, colorado, and maine, that trump played a role in the january 6th attack. so, are there any avenues left for them to pursue? >> there are not any avenues left for them to pursue in terms of islet access. this will be before a jury in washington, d.c., and atlanta, georgia when those criminal cases are tried. this is going inextricably towards the supreme court. the spring court is denying the immunity claim, i don't think any serious lawyer believes that the president had a chance to get all of these charges knocked out on the theory that he is somehow immune. let's assume that the court does issue an opinion rejecting that the former presidents immunity claim, all the same facts will be adjudicated in criminal court rooms. cross-examined, the president will have the benefit of the presumption of innocence. that will be adjudicated, where i think they belong. with a select committee recommended they land. and that is in a criminal courtroom. that is the remedy. the important remedy that remains, separate and apart from the ballot access in the supreme court. >> and ask your thoughts on how the spring court has handled these trump related cases? is the perception that they are giving trump air fare? >> i hesitate to prescribe political motivation without evidence. lawyers, we deal in evidence. and it could be that they just believe these are issues of such significance for posterity, that they believe they could be the ones to take them on. they have to resolve this community question and cannot refer it to an appellate court. i think that when the court speaks it does give, ultimately, the determination more legitimacy. let's say going to the immunity case, if they do reject the presidents immunity claim in the eyes of the american people, that might give the immunity on this one. the president has availed himself of every possible argument at every possible level of appellate review. so i can't say that they were going out of their way to help the former president. i don't have evidence to support that. it is having that effect, because it is delaying adjudication of this bottom line criminal allegation, which, again, is where i think it is a public interest that this gets adjudicated. >> judge eileen cannon has had a surprise hearing this thursday for two of trump's notions to dismiss the federal documents charges. what do you think of the emotions that she chose to hear? >> yeah, one of them is tied to this immunity question, the former president has alleged that he is immune from prosecution in the mar-a-lago matter, just as he alleges in the january 6th matter. because he has complete immunity. the special counsel has said even if there is presidential immunity for things done while in office, the conduct alleged in the mar-a-lago case occurred after he left office. the preservation of this classified information. so it does not matter. that is one of the notions that judge cannon has decided she will adjudicate or show argument about on thursday. the other is that the former president says that the information he possessed is personal. essentially that the documents are his, and he can designate them as personal. the special counsel is that you don't get to decide what is personal and professional, particularly when it comes to what is classified. a lot of information and what he possessed at mar-a-lago was classified. she has to determine whether they are in some argument that this is personal information that the president possessed, not subject to the control of the presidential records act. >> okay, come back anytime. good to see you. thank you so much. it's not a clock, and it has nothing to do with time. it just sounds like it. but what happens in congress next week could change tens of millions of lives. it is that sweeping. sweeping. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. everywhere but the seat. the seat is leather. i think it's a great pralan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? 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>> absolutely, alex. the campaign is calling it the march month of action. the goal is to give the energy going after estate of the union address that the campaign thinks was powerful, strong, and commanding. what that month of action is going to look like as events like today, the president and vice president working to hit every single battleground state this month. they are also going to be expanding operations, hiring over 350 team members across 100 states. and also, you're going to see more ads hitting the airways. they announced a six week million-dollar ad budget, more than they spent all last year on advertising. take a look at the message they are starting to talk about in this advertisement. >> i'm not a young guy, that's no secret. but here's the deal, i understand how to get things done for the american people. look, i'm very young, energetic, and handsome. what am i doing this for? >> that is just one example of how the campaign plans on talking about the presidents age as we approach the general election. we know it is a topic that has been on a lot of voters minds, and a strategy there for the campaign is one of making lighthearted references, but also highlighting how much biden has accomplished despite his age, and creating that split screen between himself and the former president, only a few years younger. that is something you can excited to bring today and in the next couple of events as he continues his battleground state campaign swing. >> absolutely. thank you for that, and speaking of the former president, let's head to nearby georgia where donald trump is also rallying voters. and nbc's jake trailer was there for us. this is the former president's first public speech calling president biden's fiery state of the union address. what can we expect to hear from him? r.a.i.s.e. act the last time former president donald trump was publicly in georgia he was being booked in the fulton county jail for unlawfully conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results. things look a bit different today. today he is the presumptive republican nominee after seeing nikki haley dropout earlier this weekend. he is also holding dueling campaign events at the same time. after giving his thursday remarks to the state of the union, i want to briefly mention the attempt of former president donald trump to rapidly respond to the state of the union address on thursday via social media platform truth social. his attempt was to fact check and real-time what i did was saying. he really is not having substantive policy. it was on biden's hair, on his walk to the stage, on him coughing amid speech. it is worth noting that the actual truth social site went down for a lot of users. that is the exact rebuttal that for president donald trump was looking at the state of the union. he needed to get out the short video on truth social, and response i want to take a look at that. >> biden is on the run from his record, and lying like tracy to try to escape accountability for the horrific devastation he and his party have created, all the while they continue the very policies that are causing this horror show to go. we cannot take it any longer as a country. >> reporter: so, today is the actual first time we are going to hear from former president donald trump at an actual campaign event in the public space responding to the state of the union. i actually spoke with a trump campaign senior adviser who told me this is going to be an aggressive indirect response to biden's remarks on thursday. it is no coincidence that biden and trump are both in georgia, a consequential swing state that biden narrowly carried in 2020. it is going to be a key piece of the puzzle for both of them to receive electoral victory in 2024. so all eyes are on biden and trump. to see what their messages are to voters, and ultimately what their pitch is as we fully head into the general election season. >> it's going to be a heck of a saturday night there in georgia. thank you so much for that. this time it just doesn't feel right. next, the new fears about a tradition for every presidential nominee. ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. 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should trump, as the nominee, be entitled to these briefings? does it make a difference in your mind that the briefings will be limited? >> you know, it's interesting, i've been thinking about this all day. and for the most part he is the candidate that is going to be running for re-election in a second term, potentially a second term for president biden. and if the situation isn't equal and fair, it would look like it is being biased in one way, potentially to throw the election. i think that part is important. i think the second part of it is those briefings are not going to have the details that you might have as president. i never understood it to be that way, i have not delivered them in person. but it is kind of an overview. because often times you'll have candidates who are out on the campaign trail saying things that maybe are not in touch with the relevant information and intelligence there. that is at a basis level. i would be shocked if anything that really went to sources and methods on any of the current press went to former president trump on the candidate. i don't think that would be true for any candidate. i'm not quite as concerned about him receiving these briefings. he will also likely know, having received briefings at the present, this is a rare case that he has been president before. he will likely know he is not getting the same level of briefings that he was when he was the president. >> yesterday trump hosted hungarian prime minister victor orban at mar-a-lago. orban is an autocrat. trump admires him and also praises him as the strongman he would like to be. i am going to play some of trump's flattering introduction to orban yesterday. here it is. >> there is nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than victor orban. he is fantastic. as you know, he is the prime minister of hungary. and does a great job. he is a noncontroversial figure because he says this is the way it is going to be, and then he doesn't. he's the boss. he is a great leader. >> this is the way it's going to be, and that's the of it. he's the boss, he's a great leader. he will concerned about how trump would govern in a second term, worried that trump would try to copy orban's leadership. how does he will power and suppress dissent ? >> it's interesting, victor orban, i landed in hungary in 2013 for the first time, and i remember on the way from the airport seeing protests about immigration. and i inc. that is just so poignant, when you look back 10 years and look at 10 years forward, the situation of the united states. very similar messages, very similar policies that are being pursued. immigration was a cornerstone of the new far right hungary that has eclipsed some of the past versions of hungary before 2014. what i would note, they share the same message because they see issues in the same way. they will say traditional values, it is really about culture and characteristics of the culture. you might hear that from former president trump or president orban. i tend to echo and say the same thing, and they are markedly similar in terms of their messages about what they say. >> i'm curious, the hungarian prime minister did not meet with biden officials. what concerns you have about trump and orban meeting? does trump have secrets that could harm the u.s.? let's say he wanted to use them to impress orban conversation. >> i would imagine not, just watching in terms of how long it is been since former president trump was in office. he wasn't particularly into the details when he was in office, regarding intelligence briefings , from what we understand. so it will be hard to imagine what he would be able offer. i think the biggest picture in the strangest thing about all of this is that orban just remove the blockage of sweden entering nato. and at the same point, president trump is quite staunch and negative towards nato. in the same essential week where orban is a gateway for nato expansion in many ways, you have a meeting with former president trump, who is very negative on nato and the alliance, and the support for ukraine against russia. it is a weird juxtaposition over the last two weeks. >> maybe they are not in sync exactly on that particular issue. but let's talk about the u.s., who you know that will build that floating peer off the coast of gaza to bring that aid. they are generally designed for going ashore in hostile territory. building one shows how the u.s. has to go around israel, our ally, to deliver aid to gaza. most like those air drops of last week. one of the challenges and the risks of delivering aid by the sea? 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did he put up buildings? which buildings? what were the value of those buildings? if he got another person to underwrite the bond for him, who is that person to whom he is now beholden, just as he is pulled into this insurance company that is underwriting the bond? >> we, of course, covering all the days new developers for you. we are going to start with aaron gilchrist, traveling with the president in atlanta. erin? >> reporter: president biden is set to receive major endorsements here in atlanta today. meanwhile, just 70 miles away, former president trouble be rallying his base, trying to win over voters in a state he narrowly lost four years ago. with the general election effectively underway, president biden launching his post state of the union tour the philadelphia suburbs on friday with the first lady, telling the crowd democracy is at stake. >> above all i see country for all americans. futures for all americans. a presidency for all americans. because i believe in america, i believe in you. >> reporter: the campaign kickoff after the president's fiery address to the nation. partly his support on the state of the union. >> the state of our union is strong and getting stronger. >> reporter: partly an energized and feisty pitch for re-election. >> i will not bow down. >> reporter: voters here in georgia reacting to the president's speech, saying he showed he is ready for the general election ahead. >> super energetic. state organized, kept delivering punch after punch. the same, saying things i wanted to say. >> he might be a little elderly, but he is saying and he is a kind man. the other one is old, too, but he's crazy. and dangerous. >> reporter: the presumptive republican nominee, former president donald trump on friday having a photo op with hungarian prime minister victor orban, widely seen as one of europe's greatest autocrats. >> not a controversial figure, he says this is the way it's going to be and he does that. he's the boss. >> reporter: at the same time, trump dealing with legal troubles, posting a $91 million bond and filing an appeal in the e. jean carroll defamation case where she won an $83 million verdict. tonight, trump returning to georgia for the first time since turning himself into the fulton county jail last august, when charges related to the 2020 presidential election. trump and biden set to stump in the crucial swing state biden narrowly won in 2020, holding dueling rallies for key voting blocs physically miles apart, with president biden answering trumps challenge to a face-off. >> would you commit to a debate with former president trump? >> reporter: tonight, three political action committees representing asian, black, and latino groups will endorse president biden's re-election. with that endorsement comes $30 million in support and more visibility in these key groups the president will need to win re-election. alex? >> okay, thank you for that. bringing you right now live pictures of president biden having just arrived in atlanta aboard air force one. he and donald trump are holding dueling campaign events in georgia today. we are going to see if the president stops to speak with reporters, and if he does so, once he disembarked there from air force one, we may get you that live video. let go right now to keep an eye on our control booth about this, it to the breaking news on the war in gaza. the u.s. airdropped tens of thousands of meals and water bottles into northern gaza today, as part of an international surge of humanitarian aid as extreme hunger plagues that territory. nbc foreign correspondent molly hunter is following the story for us from london. molly, another welcome to you. what more we learning about these efforts to get aid into gaza today, it is there any chance of a cease-fire agreement before ramadan begins? >> that's right, alex, ramadan is expected to begin tomorrow or in the next couple of days. we heard from president biden specifically on that, that it is looking tough and certainly no sign tonight from the region that there is a cease-fire deal in sight. i want to bring you up to speed on that time core door. this is brand-new and expected to be launched this weekend. it is a newly secured maritime core door, a mission supported by the u.s., the eu, as well as two organizations. open arms, a spanish organization, and world central kitchen that we are very familiar with. what we see on your screen, that is the open arms. this shift will take two or three days, it will pull a barge loaded with 200 tons of rice and flour. it will then get of the coast of gaza to an undisclosed location. pontoon boats will take it ashore, and according to the organizers, world central kitchen teams already in gaza have built a dock to basically start unloading that and start distributing that. especially to northern gaza, to the people who need it most. this comes after the u.s. and president biden on thursday, we heard again from the pentagon yesterday. the u.s. announced its new plan to build a temporary peer to get more aid into gaza. take a look at what the pentagon said about that. >> in terms of timing, we are working to set this up as quickly as possible, but we expect it will take several weeks to plan and execute. once operational, the actual amount of aid delivered will depend on many variables and will likely scale over time. however, we expect that deliveries could provide more than 2 million meals to the citizens of gaza per day. >> that's a lot, but that is not enough. he went on to say it could take up to 60 days, so if you months, and will require 1000 u.s. troops. very clear to say no american boots actually on the ground, but a lot of criticism from european allies from the united nations and international organizations in particular. at the u.s., they are kind of coming up with these workaround last resort solution, which is what the u.n. called air drops. that is what they call the secor door, as opposed to pressuring their closest ally to let more aid in by truck, which is the safest and most efficient. actually very strong words, i know we talked about this in the last hour, as well. but the u.n. special repertoire for the right to food called them absurd, these ideas. they said they will do very little to alleviate hunger, malnutrition, and do nothing to slow down famine. really desperate times, especially in northern gaza, and that aid is not getting to people who needed the most. >> molly, very sobering. thank you so much for that live report from london. joining the studio, the democratic congressman from california, sarah dake's. she sits on the house foreign affairs and armed service committee. let's get into what molly was talking about her there. we had a president who said look, we're going to build this. okay, and yet there are many who criticize and say why not do, as molly was suggesting, and use the truck convoys. let's get aid and that much more quickly, use and pressure, what are your thoughts on that? >> i think the ability to get as much aid in is important, and all the various levers we have to do that should be fun. we know the humanitarian situation. there is existing u.s. law that says our allies, anyone we are working with has to allow humanitarian assistance. so absolutely think that is right. we need to be doing more to make sure that israel lets more aid in. but at the end of the day the only way to really make sure we are addressing the famine like conditions is to get a permanent and immediate cease- fire, for hamas to release the hostages, for benjamin netanyahu to stop his indiscriminate bombing campaign that we know is not actually militarily doing what it needs to do. there is no military way to defeat hamas. >> as her watching, the president, who has now disembarked from air force one, being greeted on the tarmac in atlanta. we are going to keep a listen and see if he takes any reporter questions, and which we may interrupt our conversation and continue on the other side. this particular course of the present reference during a state of the union speech, is going to take two months and 1000 troops, allegedly, to get this thing operational. why now, and does it suggest anything like this going to be needed and going on for quite some time? >> look, i think it took a long time to get agreements by all of the countries necessary to get this core door open. it is not just a unilateral thing. those negotiations always take some time. i think it is a recognition of just how bad the humanitarian situation inside of gaza has gotten, where even when the fighting stops we will need to flood and humanitarian assistance. at the end of the day they are getting assistance into gaza and getting it distributed within gaza, and we need to be working to make sure both of those things, including making sure israel is allowing as much military and aid in as possible. >> and this is something you're focusing on. i want you to tell her viewers as you join us democrats and cosigning letters to president biden this week as he won about israel's impending invasion where people are seeking refuge. it likely violates biden's new memorandum ensuring military operation supported by u.s. tax dollars. don't violate american or international humanitarian law. so, what do you hope the president's next move is on behalf of having received that letter? >> i am very concerned about the prospect of an invasion by the idf. i think it would be catastrophic, especially because we know so many gazans are there now, having with their to seek some shelter. i know president biden has been addressing this directly with minister netanyahu. i support the biden administration's effort to make sure they are doing everything they can to get to a cease-fire deal. we need an immediate and permanent cease-fire right now, and we need hamas to release the hostages, and we need this indeterminate bombing campaign to end. >> wedding you know that my producer in the booth said that the president did not stop to speak with reporters. will continue on. he has certainly been on the campaign trail, that is part of the reason why he is there in atlanta right now. after the fiery state of the union speech he gave on thursday. talk about the split screen that is out there as a result of this fire a campaign speech. did it change the trajectory of things with president biden right now? >> you know, i think the expectations going into the stated union were very high. i was in the room, the energy was amazing. it was amazing, and i think he really drew out the contrast of what we are talking about. whether or not we want to look towards the future and build on the progress we made, whether or not we want to protect our democracy and continue to live up to the ideals of our country, or whether we want to go back to the old ideals of xenophobia, racism, and trying to take our country backwards. i'm excited for the american people to get to see president biden on the campaign trail. see what i see behind the scenes all the time about his energy, about how he handles himself in these difficult circumstances. and i think as it becomes clearer and clearer that these are two choices that the state of the selection will become clearer, too. >> and apparently about 18% more americans watch this year state of the union over last year's state of the union, so more americans were tuning in for this one. in the republican response to the state of the union, you had the junior freshman backed senator from alabama, katie brennan. really lambasting president biden on a wide range of issues, which she called the kitchen table issues, things she thinks americans are concerned about. immigration, the economy, and the like. as president biden meeting those americans on those issues? is congressional gridlock hurting his ability to campaign on those issues? >> i respect senator britt a lot, as two of the youngest women in congress. i did not know was getting ready to watch a lifetime movie when i was watching the response. but look, i don't know what kitchen table she is sitting at. the ones i imagine, people are really concerned about the cost of living. they are concerned about the right reproductive healthcare. and that is exactly what president biden is talking about. he released new proposals for how to address the cost of housing. he has prioritized making sure that we are trying to do more to address the childcare crisis in this country. that is what i am hearing about around the kitchen table. and i think the american people, and particularly the ones who sat around the kitchen table really want a positive forward-looking vision, not this doom and gloom and fear mongering we are seeing from the other side. >> okay, i'm so glad you made time to stop in here today. my friend, sarah jacobs, congressman from california. unpacking the supreme court decision about the colorado ballot, and whether it clears the way for insurrectionist run for federal office. we are back in 60 seconds. 5% apy? 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does allow candidates to invoke it for federal office? and the court said no, only congress can enact legislation that would set forth the criteria by which that section should be enforced. so, in the wake of this opinion, it means that congress either has to pass a statute which defines the circumstances by which someone could be disqualified under this provision, or could, on its own, decide that a person has, by vote on that individual circumstance, engage in insurrection. congress is not always functional, certainly in any bipartisan way, to pass legislation. so it does not seem to be a prospect that they're going to take at this issue anytime soon. >> which begs this question. do you worry the ruling could lead to another january 6th crisis? >> i don't think the ruling leads to another january 6th type crisis. i think the discourse in our politics makes that more likely, as long as we have people continuing to protect perpetuate the lie of election fraud. it is absolutely possible that we could have another constitutional crisis. i don't think it is the court that does that, i think that is where we are in terms of our discourse in this country. >> so justices wrote, where they agree they cannot and states cannot enforce section 3 and federal races, attending to insulate all alleged insurrectionist from future challenges. as you know, tim, last november that guy on our screen, the convicted file documents to run for congress. what happened to this idea of keeping insurrectionist for holding prominent office? >> yeah, i think the dissent suggested that the court went too far, by not just saying states can't do it, but actually affirmatively requiring congress to do it. they could've just said no, states can't do it. and stopped. that would've been sort of the restrained physician that court typically takes on difficult issues. but the majority went further and says this requires congressional action. so again, in order for people like him to be excluded under section 3 of the 14th amendment, congress must act. again, either a law that would say here are the consequences, the circumstances that will be applied and who can do it, or they have to take a vote. and given the polarization in congress, that is externally difficult to achieve, particularly on political matters like this. so the concern is that because of the intractability of congress and their inability to get anything done, this essentially will make section three of the 14th amendment louder for its historical purpose. >> a lawyer who represented voters electing to drop on the illinois ballot, noting conclusions by authorities in illinois, colorado, and maine, that trump played a role in the january 6th attack. so, are there any avenues left for them to pursue? >> there are not any avenues left for them to pursue in terms of islet access. this will be before a jury in washington, d.c., and atlanta, georgia when those criminal cases are tried. this is going inextricably towards the supreme court. the spring court is denying the immunity claim, i don't think any serious lawyer believes that the president had a chance to get all of these charges knocked out on the theory that he is somehow immune. let's assume that the court does issue an opinion rejecting that the former presidents immunity claim, all the same facts will be adjudicated in criminal court rooms. cross-examined, the president will have the benefit of the presumption of innocence. that will be adjudicated, where i think they belong. with a select committee recommended they land. and that is in a criminal courtroom. that is the remedy. the important remedy that remains, separate and apart from the ballot access in the supreme court. >> and ask your thoughts on how the spring court has handled these trump related cases? is the perception that they are giving trump air fare? >> i hesitate to prescribe political motivation without evidence. lawyers, we deal in evidence. and it could be that they just believe these are issues of such significance for posterity, that they believe they could be the ones to take them on. they have to resolve this community question and cannot refer it to an appellate court. i think that when the court speaks it does give, ultimately, the determination more legitimacy. let's say going to the immunity case, if they do reject the presidents immunity claim in the eyes of the american people, that might give the immunity on this one. the president has availed himself of every possible argument at every possible level of appellate review. so i can't say that they were going out of their way to help the former president. i don't have evidence to support that. it is having that effect, because it is delaying adjudication of this bottom line criminal allegation, which, again, is where i think it is a public interest that this gets adjudicated. >> judge eileen cannon has had a surprise hearing this thursday for two of trump's notions to dismiss the federal documents charges. what do you think of the emotions that she chose to hear? >> yeah, one of them is tied to this immunity question, the former president has alleged that he is immune from prosecution in the mar-a-lago matter, just as he alleges in the january 6th matter. because he has complete immunity. the special counsel has said even if there is presidential immunity for things done while in office, the conduct alleged in the mar-a-lago case occurred after he left office. the preservation of this classified information. so it does not matter. that is one of the notions that judge cannon has decided she will adjudicate or show argument about on thursday. the other is that the former president says that the information he possessed is personal. essentially that the documents are his, and he can designate them as personal. the special counsel is that you don't get to decide what is personal and professional, particularly when it comes to what is classified. a lot of information and what he possessed at mar-a-lago was classified. she has to determine whether they are in some argument that this is personal information that the president possessed, not subject to the control of the presidential records act. >> okay, come back anytime. good to see you. thank you so much. it's not a clock, and it has nothing to do with time. it just sounds like it. but what happens in congress next week could change tens of millions of lives. it is that sweeping. sweeping. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile. new sensodyne clinical white provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. everywhere but the seat. the seat is leather. i think it's a great pralan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? 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>> absolutely, alex. the campaign is calling it the march month of action. the goal is to give the energy going after estate of the union address that the campaign thinks was powerful, strong, and commanding. what that month of action is going to look like as events like today, the president and vice president working to hit every single battleground state this month. they are also going to be expanding operations, hiring over 350 team members across 100 states. and also, you're going to see more ads hitting the airways. they announced a six week million-dollar ad budget, more than they spent all last year on advertising. take a look at the message they are starting to talk about in this advertisement. >> i'm not a young guy, that's no secret. but here's the deal, i understand how to get things done for the american people. look, i'm very young, energetic, and handsome. what am i doing this for? >> that is just one example of how the campaign plans on talking about the presidents age as we approach the general election. we know it is a topic that has been on a lot of voters minds, and a strategy there for the campaign is one of making lighthearted references, but also highlighting how much biden has accomplished despite his age, and creating that split screen between himself and the former president, only a few years younger. that is something you can excited to bring today and in the next couple of events as he continues his battleground state campaign swing. >> absolutely. thank you for that, and speaking of the former president, let's head to nearby georgia where donald trump is also rallying voters. and nbc's jake trailer was there for us. this is the former president's first public speech calling president biden's fiery state of the union address. what can we expect to hear from him? r.a.i.s.e. act the last time former president donald trump was publicly in georgia he was being booked in the fulton county jail for unlawfully conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results. things look a bit different today. today he is the presumptive republican nominee after seeing nikki haley dropout earlier this weekend. he is also holding dueling campaign events at the same time. after giving his thursday remarks to the state of the union, i want to briefly mention the attempt of former president donald trump to rapidly respond to the state of the union address on thursday via social media platform truth social. his attempt was to fact check and real-time what i did was saying. he really is not having substantive policy. it was on biden's hair, on his walk to the stage, on him coughing amid speech. it is worth noting that the actual truth social site went down for a lot of users. that is the exact rebuttal that for president donald trump was looking at the state of the union. he needed to get out the short video on truth social, and response i want to take a look at that. >> biden is on the run from his record, and lying like tracy to try to escape accountability for the horrific devastation he and his party have created, all the while they continue the very policies that are causing this horror show to go. we cannot take it any longer as a country. >> reporter: so, today is the actual first time we are going to hear from former president donald trump at an actual campaign event in the public space responding to the state of the union. i actually spoke with a trump campaign senior adviser who told me this is going to be an aggressive indirect response to biden's remarks on thursday. it is no coincidence that biden and trump are both in georgia, a consequential swing state that biden narrowly carried in 2020. it is going to be a key piece of the puzzle for both of them to receive electoral victory in 2024. so all eyes are on biden and trump. to see what their messages are to voters, and ultimately what their pitch is as we fully head into the general election season. >> it's going to be a heck of a saturday night there in georgia. thank you so much for that. this time it just doesn't feel right. next, the new fears about a tradition for every presidential nominee. ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost. 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should trump, as the nominee, be entitled to these briefings? does it make a difference in your mind that the briefings will be limited? >> you know, it's interesting, i've been thinking about this all day. and for the most part he is the candidate that is going to be running for re-election in a second term, potentially a second term for president biden. and if the situation isn't equal and fair, it would look like it is being biased in one way, potentially to throw the election. i think that part is important. i think the second part of it is those briefings are not going to have the details that you might have as president. i never understood it to be that way, i have not delivered them in person. but it is kind of an overview. because often times you'll have candidates who are out on the campaign trail saying things that maybe are not in touch with the relevant information and intelligence there. that is at a basis level. i would be shocked if anything that really went to sources and methods on any of the current press went to former president trump on the candidate. i don't think that would be true for any candidate. i'm not quite as concerned about him receiving these briefings. he will also likely know, having received briefings at the present, this is a rare case that he has been president before. he will likely know he is not getting the same level of briefings that he was when he was the president. >> yesterday trump hosted hungarian prime minister victor orban at mar-a-lago. orban is an autocrat. trump admires him and also praises him as the strongman he would like to be. i am going to play some of trump's flattering introduction to orban yesterday. here it is. >> there is nobody that is better, smarter, or a better leader than victor orban. he is fantastic. as you know, he is the prime minister of hungary. and does a great job. he is a noncontroversial figure because he says this is the way it is going to be, and then he doesn't. he's the boss. he is a great leader. >> this is the way it's going to be, and that's the of it. he's the boss, he's a great leader. he will concerned about how trump would govern in a second term, worried that trump would try to copy orban's leadership. how does he will power and suppress dissent ? >> it's interesting, victor orban, i landed in hungary in 2013 for the first time, and i remember on the way from the airport seeing protests about immigration. and i inc. that is just so poignant, when you look back 10 years and look at 10 years forward, the situation of the united states. very similar messages, very similar policies that are being pursued. immigration was a cornerstone of the new far right hungary that has eclipsed some of the past versions of hungary before 2014. what i would note, they share the same message because they see issues in the same way. they will say traditional values, it is really about culture and characteristics of the culture. you might hear that from former president trump or president orban. i tend to echo and say the same thing, and they are markedly similar in terms of their messages about what they say. >> i'm curious, the hungarian prime minister did not meet with biden officials. what concerns you have about trump and orban meeting? does trump have secrets that could harm the u.s.? let's say he wanted to use them to impress orban conversation. >> i would imagine not, just watching in terms of how long it is been since former president trump was in office. he wasn't particularly into the details when he was in office, regarding intelligence briefings , from what we understand. so it will be hard to imagine what he would be able offer. i think the biggest picture in the strangest thing about all of this is that orban just remove the blockage of sweden entering nato. and at the same point, president trump is quite staunch and negative towards nato. in the same essential week where orban is a gateway for nato expansion in many ways, you have a meeting with former president trump, who is very negative on nato and the alliance, and the support for ukraine against russia. it is a weird juxtaposition over the last two weeks. >> maybe they are not in sync exactly on that particular issue. but let's talk about the u.s., who you know that will build that floating peer off the coast of gaza to bring that aid. they are generally designed for going ashore in hostile territory. building one shows how the u.s. has to go around israel, our ally, to deliver aid to gaza. most like those air drops of last week. one of the challenges and the risks of delivering aid by the sea? 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