Donald trump, helping him post the 91. 6 million bond for e. Jean carroll. Now that he has shown he can get the money, what can it mean for the 460 million and counting he owes the state of new york. Joining us now msnbc legal continue, lisa rubin. He was due to post this bond on monday. Yesterday you and i were talking about the delay he was asking for. That was denied. That was. So posting it, what does it mean to have this on the books. It means that e. Jean carroll is protected through the Second Circuits disposition. One of the things i noticed when i was going through the bond today is that it actually only covers the appeal to the Second Circuit. It doesnt cover any appeal that he would take from the Second Circuit if it affirms the jurys verdict of 83. 3 million. Youre going to have to explain that. If he appeals further to the supreme court, hes going to need Somebody Else to come in and provide that security if he takes that appeal further. Otherwise, he will owe her that money within a certain number of days. Chub says it will only give him this money up to the appeal of the Second Circuit. If the Second Circuit says no, we believe this money is justified, and its the right judgment, then got to find someone else. Well, it says it will play. Lets say for the sake of argument that donald trump loses at the Second Circuit, and he chooses not to take an appeal to the United States supreme court. At that point, either trump pays or following around 60 days. Chubb itself will pay. If he wants to go to the supreme court, he has to find Somebody Else to provide the security. Part of the questions around why he was asking for a delay on the money surrounded whether he wanted to show the courts in the engoron ruling, the 460 plus ruling that he would be able to get the bond, right . Now that hes shown this, what could it mean for that giant sum of money . Well, if i see the filings that were made today, i am incorporating them into the brief that i have due monday, where i say, donald trump is asking this court to allow him to post either no bond or a substantially reduced bond from his filings in the e. Jean carroll case, he is capable of getting a major insurer, no less, to help him post 91. 63 million. Yes, thats less than what he would owe here, but its not as if hes involving some fringy Financial Institution or some benefactor we have never heard of. Chubb, they arent minor players. There is a question of the moment we are currently in, and part of the argument is the Real Estate Market has not bounced back, especially for commercial real estate. Would that be taken into consideration . In terms of the size of the bond . Yes. Thats certainly part of the argument for Donald Trumps financial disclosures. Donald trump owns lots of different types of assets, including securities which can also be liquidated. He has cash holdings, and he has properties that he can pledge as collateral to get a bond. How encumbered they are, how weighed down they are is not entirely transparent to us, but hes not a person lacking for assets to pledge as collateral. The Court Appointed monitor over the Trump Organization, theres some questions about what information shes requested and been given by the Trump Organization, explain that. She wrote a letter to judge engoron before he rendered his decision and the new York Attorney general civil fraud trial. See im having trouble keep track of this. Where she said there were a number of instances in which money went out from the Trump Organization without her knowledge, and that she didnt get to her Satisfaction Documentation of trumps supposed paying off of a 48 million loan. She was never provided with documentation that indicated that the loan ever existed in the first place, and the only thing she was given was a single piece of paper from december of 2023, literally a memo to file, indicating that that debt had already been extinguished. How, we dont know. When we talk about lack of transparency with the Trump Organization, you know, infamously, very opaque. Shes having a problem with transparency even though a court has appointed a monitor, and donald trump was part of the Approval Process for her. Thats right. Let me ask you about the classified documents case. Try to keep them all straight in my head. There are so many. Welcome to my world. This is the South Florida case. Judge aileen cannon, what is the current status of that . We dont yet have a trial date in that case. We know there will be oral argument next thursday, march 14th on two of trumps motions to dismiss. Records act, serving as a form of immunity for him and the other about the vagueness or unconstitutional impermissibility of certain charges because theyre not detailed under the constitution to afford him due process. Trump has five other motions to dismiss that are also pending. Why judge cannon chose these two, suggests that she believes she might be able to resolve everything on the two motions. Andrew weissmann was on the other day talking about the immunity with donald trump and the classified documents, trying to say it was okay because he was president. It would be like buying a gun legally and shooting someone with it, and saying i didnt commit a crime because i bought this gun legally, and yesterday when i read the motion and the response from jack smith, i believe i texted you and said i would be a terrible lawyer, i should not go to law school because my response to a motion that trumps team was putting in would be judge, your honor, come on, respectfully, katy tur. There might have been an expletive, but i wont say it. Ill never tell. Lisa rubin, thank you very much. Happy friday. You too. Ronna mcdaniel is out and as of this morning, Michael Whatley is in. The North Carolina operative is the head of the rnc putting him in charge of the partys reelection effort. He have to o. Joining me from houston, texas, is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. So who is Michael Whatley . Reporter Michael Whatley hails from the great state of North Carolina, katy. He was the rnc chair in North Carolina. This is a place where you would recall in 2020 donald trump actually beat joe biden, a swing state by just over 1 percentage point. It was notable, just one week ago in a rally in North Carolina for donald trump, he said from that stage where he was previewing whatleys election to become rnc chair which took place here. In front of that North Carolina crowd he said, quote, i had a choice of a lot of people. This is the guy because he stopped the steal. He stopped the steal, again making a direct reference to the fact that he won the state of North Carolina. Michael whatley is going to serve as chair, replacing Ronna Mcdaniel, but hes going to have the support of the cochair, laura trump, also a north carolinian, and also formally voted in here today. Its notable, theres a lot at stake, as you just said, not only on the legal front for donald trump, but also on the political front and not just the white house races but down ballot. There are less than eight months until the general election. This is a real Question Mark as to what extent as the Trump Campaign merges into the rnc, do they replace senior staff, existing senior staff from the rnc to bring in their own troops to run the show. Chris acevedo is coming in. Theres a lot of outstanding questions going into next week at a moment in time. Quite a head turning moment in time to put in somebody new, elevate somebody new at the post after Ronna Mcdaniel had been running the show for seven years. What about the expectation of what he might do on election day itself, vaughn . Reporter for . He was claiming in North Carolina he single handedly stopped the steal in North Carolina because he had election monitors. Thats part of what donald trump liked about him. Reporter right, its what he likes about him, and Ronna Mcdaniel also called him an ally. And her goodbye remarks made mention of the vast investments that hes going to see through in what they call election integrity, and i think that those are the Question Marks around what can Michael Whatley did from what he did in North Carolina to other parts of the country. The rnc has filed multiple lawsuits ahead of the election in multiple states regarding Election Processes and Michael Whatley is going to be at the forefront of ensuring, at least to donald trump that the Republican National committee is doing everything in its power to make sure the election is fair, to satisfy him and his campaign. Vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. And still ahead, donald trump will get access to u. S. Intelligence again, once he becomes the nominee. What dangers his former National Security adviser says that poses, and what he says the Biden Administration should do instead. Plus, what the State Of The Union did for President Bidens reelection prospects. And remember the guy who has correctly predicting every president ial election since 1982 including trump in 2016, using what he calls the key to the presidency, Allan Lichtman joins me on what he says his prediction said this time around. Were back in 60 seconds. re bas come on. 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Donald trump will receive intelligence briefings, once he officially becomes the gop nominee. The same donald trump who told the russians about classified israeli intel in the oval office. Donald trump retweeted an image of iranian capabilities from a classified spy satellite. The same donald trump who showed the japanese Prime Minister highly sensitive papers on north korea. At a Patio Dining Table at maralago. The same donald trump who hoarded hundreds of classified documents at maralago. And the same donald trump who had his intelligence access revoked for it, after he left office. So why is that donald trump getting access back . Joining us now, former National Security adviser to President Trump, john bolton. Really good to have you ambassador. Let me ask you, why is this a danger to give him access to intelligence . Well, i think trump demonstrated during his presidency and certainly in the handling of the documents after his presidency that he doesnt pay adequate attention to safeguarding these secrets and that the danger is i think commonly known of when they get into the wrong hands of not just revealing the information itself, but risking the sources and methods that are used to procure the information. So im somewhat perplexed myself that the Biden White House has apparently agreed that hell get these briefings. I dont think it makes any sense, and i think it really puts whatever he is told at risk of being disclosed. So the Biden Administration, according to sources talking to nbc news has said that the reason theyre doing this is because they want to maintain a semblance of normalcy in the campaign. So President Trump cant paint himself as the victim of politicalization . Well, good luck with that, i mean, lets go back to the original purpose, really, President Truman had in mind when he first authorized. Im pretty sure it was truman. First authorized giving briefings to president ial candidates. It was to avoid a candidate saying in ignorance, something that could impair the National Security. So it wasnt to satisfy the curiosity of the candidate. It was to protect the Overall National interest. You know, we had a hard time getting trump to Pay Attention in many many days of those briefings, and when he did really Pay Attention, it was often because he wanted to keep a document or something that from time to time he went on. I think if youre going to do these briefings, they ought to be done right. I also disagree with some former Intelligence Community people who say, well, if hes going to get the briefings make sure theyre pad lam, im summarizing it. I dont like that either. Give the briefing the way it should be or lets just dispense with it and let trump say whamp what he wants. There are voters who say nothing really bad happened or they look at what he tweeted out or what he was discussing with the japanese or what he, you know, told the russians in the oval office or the classified documents at maralago, and theyll say nothing bad happened. Theres been no effect of this, you know, alleged carelessness with intelligence or classified information. Why do you argue that they should take it seriously . Well, because the people who say that cant possibly know whether its true or not. One of the things other governments do is keep better secret sometimes than we do. So being able to use this information, which they can put into an overall mosaic of what theyre getting from other sources could well benefit them in ways that the public cant possibly know. I would say with respect to whatever he showed japanese Prime Minister shinzo abe. Thats an ally of the United States. You know, we share a lot of intelligence with allies, trumps mistake was doing it on the patio of maralago where his guests could see it as well. If youre going to reveal information to an ally, do it strategically, not just for the sake of showing that you know something that the ally or your adversary doesnt. Thats the problem with trump. He cant understand why it is that he should be constrained and talking about the information. So i guess i would say if the Biden Administration is determined to let this open, id impose conditions on the briefings. I wouldnt let any advisers in the room with donald trump. So if the information does leak out, we know exactly where it came from. And i wouldnt show him or leave documents or photographs. I would give a verbal briefing that home hopefully could minimize the Downside Risk of him revealing something. If donald trump is elected again, what happens to nato . Well, im very concerned. I think hes bound and determined to withdraw the United States from nato. I think the notion that he somehow is using this as a Bargaining Leverage to get other nato members to increase their Defense Spending is wrong. Thousands of people over decades, myself included as a small part of that have pushed our allies to spend more on defense so we could strengthen nato. I think trump uses the failure of some of these allies to spend what they themselves committed to spend ten years ago, not to strengthen nato but to weaken it. I think the risk of withdrawal is very real. The hungarian president , viktor orban is visiting donald trump at maralago today. What do you make of that . Well, you know, i first met viktor orban back in the 90s right after the warsaw pact collapsed when he was a young small l liberal leader of forces in hungary. Its an amazing transformation. Honestly, his greatest sin is not his domestic policies which we can certainly didnt. Its that hes betraying the Hun