The time has now come to suspend my campaign. The General Election has begun. The race is set, now, it will be a rematch and we like that rematch. Donald trump Running Unopposed against President Biden. Tonight, a Special Edition of allin, Rachel Maddow and alex ragnar join me on bidens chances against candidate trump. As republicans try to erase the memory of his disastrous presidency. Are you better off today than you were four years ago . Then the big board on who will decide this election. Claire mccaskill at 6 00. I think america knows who donald trump is. The question is, who are we . Plus, a big announcement in arizona. Ruben gallego joins me for his First National tv interview since Senator Cinema dropped out, when the Special Edition of all in and starts right now. Good evening from new york, im chris hayes, thank you for tuning in for this Special Edition of allin on march 6, 2020 for what looks to be the unofficial official first day of the president ial General Election. Joining me right here in just a moment, first, lets start with a little brief trip down memory lane to four years ago exactly today, march 6th, 2020. Do you remember where you were on that day . We remember because we do a television show, it was the very last time we did an all in Live Audience show before the world shut down and, truthfully, between you and me should not have even done that one. Questionable call. We didnt really know. It was also a day when donald trump, let me jog your memory. The president of the United States in the hat to tour of the center for Disease Control headquarters to ostensibly comfort americans about his new novel coronavirus, that was already spreading like wildfire and had come into the shores of the u. S. It did not go well. I dont know if you remember this incident, but at the time there was that cruise ship, the grand princess, stuck in limbo off the coast of california after an outbreak of the virus was discovered on board, and it was an open question as to what should be done with the boat and its thousands of passengers and crew. Frankly, if it were up to me i would be inclined to say, leave everybody on the ship for a period of time and use the ship as your base. But a lot of people would rather do it a different way, when they do that, our numbers are going to go up. Remember that . The solution was, Tell Americans on a pestilential boat floating in the harbor should just stay there. In order to keep our numbers, like the Trump Campaign numbers, low. And that was the way this all works from then on. There was no pretense of compassion for those affected, their families who were on the boat sick, or concerned for public health, broadly, it was the numbers, the metric. Concerned about how the rising cases would look for him politically, plain as day, if the passengers would be counted toward the countries tally of active covid cases. Its worth remembering, trump already knew, this is key, we didnt know at the time, but now we do. He already knew when he was saying that exactly how deadly and disruptive the virus would prove to be. He privately admitted as much to Journalist Bob Woodward a full month earlier. It goes through air, bob, thats always tougher than touch. Touch, you dont have to such things but the air, you breathe the air and thats how its past. So thats a very tricky one, thats a very delicate one. Its also more deadly than even your strenuous blue. More deadly than your strenuous blue, hes saying that a month before it came on our shores. And would go on to say dozens of times that it was just like the flu. And that deadly negligence and callousness displayed by trump was emblematic, He Incompetently handled the entire pandemic which was a catastrophe, 1 Million People died. So i thought of all that today, when i heard the House Republican chair and trump toady ask this question. As Ronald Reagan famously asked us, are you better off today than you were four years ago . The answer for hardWorking Americans across the country is a resounding no. No, its a resounding yes, and it will be more of a resounding yes each day we go forward in this year. Its a resounding yes because we are not currently entering the pandemic phase of covid with a negligent president who is more interested in saving his poll numbers and saving lives. Of course as of today donald trump is effectively the republican nominee for president. For all intents and purposes the General Election begins right now and trumps entire Election Strategy depends on completely, utterly read conning what happened four years ago. On Annihilating 2020 completely from public memory. He is helped in that strategy by the fact we all want to forget what a disaster 2020 was, because it was a disaster, and it was a disaster worsened in many ways by donald trump. That moment four years ago today would only be the beginning of the most bumbling, incompetent, chaotic mismanagement of crisis since Herbert Hoover in the Great Depression nearly a century ago. A year that was shot through with nothing but chaos and turmoil, illness and death, abject economic destruction, donald trump tweeted as the country burned. That is why, we lived through this but lets go back for a second. That is why joe biden won the 2020 election. The promise of the Biden Campaign was the democrats and biden harris would restore someone to leadership who actually things about the Public Interest and whats best for the country, something he would restore bipartisan compromise and legislative accomplishment, who restore the economy by investing in Working Americans and rebuilding things from the middle out. And President Biden successfully managed the Vaccine Rollout and a return to public life. Our economy is stronger now than just about any expert predicted it would be before covid. That is thanks in large part to the massive Stimulus Spending on things like public and for structure, the white house ushered through Congress Sometimes on a bipartisan basis as biden promised during that campaign, sometimes on a partyline vote. Republicans cannot run against any of that. So instead they are trying a Campaign Slogan of Make America 2019 again. Listen to tim scott Celebrating Trumps Win last night. President trump spoke to the voters today across our country, republicans, democrats, and independents about the future, we go back to that future, 2017 to 2020. No, its not a threeyear term. 27, trump was president from 2017 to 2021, i promise you i was there. This is the whole game. Donald trump republicans want you to chop an entire year off the end of trumps term. As if he just gets his political mulligan for the catastrophe that was the end of his presidency. They want you to conveniently ignore the mass unemployment, the freezer trucks packed full of bodies. They want to ignore the final months of 2020 when trump attempted the first two in our countrys history, culminating in the deadly january 6 insurrection when he six and armed and violent mob on the capital to steal a free and fair election. Trump is now running to finish the job he started on january 6th, if he is elected he will pick right back up where he left off. Is not going to govern like its 2019. He will govern like its january 7th 2021. With me tonight, my good, good friends, Rachel Maddow and alex wagner, here on msnbc. Its great to have you here. I truly lost it when elise said that, i thought, are they really going to do this . Are they confident enough that they can pull off the are you better . It just seems like obviously even if you dont blame trump for the worst of the pandemic, were all better off. Even if donald trump had never been president , under joe biden right now you got the best job market since the 1960s, you got unemployment below 4 , youve got the best covid economic recovery in the world, you have more people with Health Insurance than ever before in american history, youve got Violent Crime at a 50 year low, if donald trump was still running as the former host of The Apprentice right now, telling people that the biden years have been awful, havent they, is a weird sell to a country that is experiencing life under joe biden that has all of the right economic metrics. So, you have to tell people, dont number 2020, i do think that Covid Walloped everyone. But, i went back and looked at my coverage four years ago, when i saw that you flagged this. What i was talking about four years ago was Nick Mulvaney at seatac telling everybody that the liberal media has made up Covid To Make Trump look bad. We could do that again, sure, put it back in there. I feel like you really hit on something that is not talked about enough, which is the way in which we as a country have not dealt with the trauma of covid. Its a seismic event in american life, and of course who would want to go back to the fear and death and disinfecting groceries . Classic trauma response. I made a photo album of that year because i was like, im going to want to forget this and i need to remember that we were masking outdoors, and in that same time joe biden ran for president. We cant forget that, because the weapons from that campaign are totally different from the lessons he needs to apply in this situation. I was on the Campaign Trail with joe biden. There were a lot of really mediocre events, and then there were none. Thats a good point. He is not a great campaigner. Hes been a really effective president. And the dissonance between those two things needs to be reconciled, in a year when hes got to be, hes got to be a better campaigner and hes got to do something that is incredibly complicated, which is to get america to remember what life was like in the rearview. We are not good at that in this country, we are really good at moving forward, not asking questions about the past, not reconciling the sins and transgressions and faults and just, go west young man. Nikki haleys campaign, one of the things she did was cut montages of Trump Presidency to remind people what it was like. I havent seen the Biden Campaign do that, that is something that can absolutely steal from her. Shes tried to remind people about what the chaos candidate was like and what the chaos presidency was like. Instagram reels of trump telling people to drink bleach, and the cdc had shaking their heads quietly, it is staggering, the mismanagement of one of the most seismically dramatic events in modern america. The other things, im torn on this because thinking about, i think weve extinguished 2020 from our memories in many ways, because it was traumatic. The other thing thats really important for the Biden Campaign is a vision of the future. I think to go back to what youre saying about, i could tell you the biden 2020 platform. It was to get covid under control. It was to then begin bringing the economy out of the depths, through investment in the middle class and through an infrastructure investment, and to rejoin paris and invest in clean energy and to restore our relationships. Thats what they did. They said they were going to do it, and they did it. I cant really tell you right now what the second term biden vision looks like yet. And i do think that, when you talk about elections about the future, americans are future oriented people, that strikes me going to the State Of The Union tomorrow which is an unveiling. Ive been thinking about how important that is. It makes the State Of The Union really important, i think that its always in an Election Year the kickoff of the incumbent president s re election campaign. Hearing the positive vision, rather than hears all the reasons you dont want the republicans back in the white house again. I think thats what were going to get. So, well see. But it has to be said that it has been a remarkable few years of republican policy, particularly with the Supreme Court, Reproductive Rights, whats the democratic agenda on Reproductive Rights . To stop the republicans from doing more of what theyve been doing. Can you articulate that in a positive way . Jade your verb tenses, but its about trying to stop what the republicans have done on Reproductive Rights and what theyre continuing to do, what the republicans have done and what theyre continuing to do on democracy and the rule of law, but there is a lot of stuff in terms of this very unusual Republican Party led by donald trump that the Democratic Party now exist to stop. To say we dont want to radically cashier who we are as a country to become a strongman authoritarian dictatorship. Go ahead. I tend to agree that the odor of republican mismanagement, and kneeling towards tyranny is so fragrant, i really feel like the Biden Campaign just needs to, the idea, i dont know im using that perfume, it stinks. Its so redolent, and these are, we talk about americans want breadandbutter issues, Bodily Autonomy is a very Kitchen Table issue. In a way. One of the things that happened in 22, 2022 which was fascinating which was there was this debate about the messaging. And a bunch of people said you need to focus on inflation. Its all people care about and you guys are talking about democracy, and joe biden did that big speech that was his big capper, and, just, reams of commentators being like, you are so out to lunch. Just a little bit of a weird condescending thing that real people dont care about democracy. And even one layer below that, workingclass people dont care about democracy. Elite, affluent, educated thing, i dont think thats true. I think all kinds of people care about democracy. That same debate is going to resurface and im curious how you think about it. The inflation argument, the Economic Growth argument, the jobs argument, the wages argument, purchasing power, having Health Insurance, not being one Health Crisis away from bankruptcy, Student Loans, all that stuff, biden has a great story to tell on all of those things. A better story than in 2022. And is a doublesided story, is what we are trying to do, what we have done, what we can brag about and look at what the republicans are doing. Why isnt there more Student Loan Forgiveness because the republicans have sued to stop it. All of those things have been against republican opposition. I think you need to talk about what youre offering but you also need to talk about whats bad about the other guys. On every economic metric he can do that. I want you to stick around for one more. Awesome. Rachel maddow, alex wagner, weve got more to talk about tonight including how this election will be decided and who is going to decide it. Well check in on that when we come back. Come back. Shingles is a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. Ahhh, theres nothing like a day out with friends. Thats nice, but shingles doesnt care 99 of adults 50 years or older already have the virus that causes shingles inside them, and it can reactivate at any time. 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Its worth remembering the last two elections were won on the margins, all elections are on the margins and polarized america. 2016 lost the popular vote by 1 million votes, was delivered by less than 78,000 votes across three key states. Biden b trumpian 2020 in the aggregate, in the popular vote by 7 million votes, which is a sizable majority, but again, huge victory of 150,000 votes across five states including a margin of less than 12,000 in georgia. The 2024, very likely to also be won on those margins. Here to walk us through what sets of voters will be key in november. 244 days, we got the countdown and people have to decide in his election. Thats where we start right now, in the anticipation of what we saw last night, a number of major pollsters over the weekend released trump biden poles, and you can see there were four that came out over the weekend before super tuesday, they all put trump ahead by small margins here, one thing worth noting right away as a starting point, this is different from 2020. In 2020 there was not a single Major National poll, the entire Campaign Start to finish that ever put trump ahead. Starting here we have four in the last few days. Whats going on . Lets look inside the New York Times siena poll, that had trump ahead by four overall, this tells the big picture story. They asked voters who voted for trump in 2020, are you still with him . 97 said yes, same question of biting voters, only 85 . The difference between trump trailing and trump leading in these polls is the slack you see in bidens support. Where does that come from . What should we be watching in terms of some key groups . This is not comprehensive but if you we can highlight right away. Again, from that poll, three groups right here, this is recent data just over the weekend. We talked all through this republican primary season about the divide of White College educated white noncollege educated voters, combine the white vote 70 in the president ial election but a huge divide between the noncollege side, like so many trends in American Politics its one that accelerated with donald trump emerged eight years ago. Among white voters with College Degrees this has become a core democratic constituency. Biden leads trump by 16 points, white voters without a college degree, thats become a big republican constituency. Trump by 31 points over joe biden, and hispanic voters because we saw them in 2020, become more competitive as a demographic than they had been in 2016 or anytime in recent past, theyve got trump in this poll ahead by two points among his hispanic voters. 13 of the electorate in the General Election, trump leading by two. The question is, how different is this from what we saw in 2020 . The best postelection data on how different groups broke in 2020, lets show it to you right here. You can see right away, white voters, it was biden by 15, its 16 now, this looks the same. Noncollege white, trump by 32 then, trump by 31 now. s looks the same. Keep in mind, if one of these groups changes meaningfully in one way, that could have a huge effect on the election given the size of these groups. Starting out were where we were in 2020 with these groups. Heres the change, look at this. With 25 Bullet Points for biden, trump now leading by two. If you went one election further back in 2016, the clinton margin over trump with hispanics was 38. That movement from democrats 38 republicans 2 with 13 of the electorate is a big reason why trump is ahead in polling right now and never let once in 2020. Thats fascinating, thank you very much. We will be continuing to depend on you a lot in the next 244 days. There is Something Interesting about that last bit of data. Eric wrote an interesting piece where he says, you get these demographic freak out on the right about, theyre importing voters, and its like, i dont think those people come over are going to vote, you are doing more stereotyping of how people might vote than is warranted, and in fact, you might be able to build a multiracial rightwing movement. Imagine if you werent talking about internment camps, what could you do. First of all, its been really underreported, the way in which this information has really grown and spread on Spanish Language media. The Biden Campaign started early with outreach to hispanic and black communities, they need to keep up that outreach, but i was reading the Tour De Force profile of joe biden in the new yorker, and he talks with sarah long, and she has really smart points which is, if biden is not great at selling this, where are the surrogates . Everywhere. The right wing is so adept at this, everything from talk radio to social media to the main networks. Everybody saying the same thing over and over and over again, and allies become truth. Here, the truth needs to be accepted as the truth, and he needs so many ambassadors on his side saying that. I keep saying, i think its exactly correct, i think that you cant, the word media is because we are an intermediary. Things happen here, and youre here, and what our job is to do, is to be like, yeah. Were right in the middle, thats what we do, we mediate. That has collapsed to a degree that i havent, not us, but generally out there, i just dont know where anyones getting their information. I thought the motor we had last night, she had real concerns, a real voter that you could really talk to. Healthcare. An iep for a kid, and how voters are connecting the dots to these are things that i care about and these are the candidates, and just the basic, heres where they are on the issues, that can be a big challenge. I think youre right that the mediating role of a formal media in between things that happen in the world and how people find out about them. That dissolving a little bit as we move to different forms and democratized forms of media, absolutely true. The other thing that is less comfortable to talk about is that, whats replacing it, to a large degree, is bad faith, bad actor disinformation. Not misinformation, not people getting stuff wrong by accident, but deliberate misinformation. And that space in Spanish Language media and english language media and social media and all the other ways the people access Information Online is absolutely toxic right now, and deliberately so. Its not people trying hard and failing, it is bad actors trying to destroy us as a country. The fact that that Information Space is policed, almost not at all or policed by actors who actually want that, that is, thats a National Security problem for the United States. Its a real democratic challenge. A shortterm challenge for anyone trying to get a message out about whats going on. But its also, its also just a profound, it is the environment in which this campaign is going to take place. And having covered this, this is the worst ive seen that information, i would say since 2016. Which is a bad year for that. To your point about surrogates, and the other thing theyre talking about, theyre going to do a lot of paid media. Where that paid media is going to go and how they can target, theres going to be a lot of direct outreach to people that is going to matter a tremendous amount for precisely this reason. They need to make an incredible volume of context. They need to make a lot of content from a gazillion different sources going to a gazillion different places. And also i dont mean to indict the american public, because im guilty of this, we become selfish in our media habits. We once if it feels good, looks good, is funny, is entertaining. That reality is often at odds with politics and policy, and theyve got to find a way to marry something that can go viral to a really Important Message that biden needs. And its easier to make stuff go viral when the message is, our country is a disaster, it is being beset by a cabal of shadowy and allpowerful enemies. We need somebody to break the rules and come in here and take over with an iron fist and vanquish all of our countries, thats something you can do by really very easily, the message that were taking care of Student Loans and be able to hold onto your Health Insurance, and were bringing inflation down, thats really hard to make. Republicans give lots of fodder to the end of days. Definitely a Fire And Brimstone message that biden could perpetuate that would not be untruthful. Is also the fact that this touches on something steve was talking about, anytime you see a president Approval Rating in the 38, 39, 40, 41, what it means is that that person is losing parts of their own coalition, their own voters. So when you saw the 87 on reagan, all these numbers, this is all guesswork, everyone, sampling has gone to , in the world of polling, people are doing their best, but theres enough aggregate data over time to show certain things. And it seems to me that those swing voters, the swing voters you won the first time are a key part but finding in that 13 , and where are they now and why not is the most low hanging fruit. I think the good thing is, the information on voters, the data that we have, with the right resources is pretty extraordinary. They can find them if they want to find them, is terrifying and very orwellian. And i have confidence in their ability to find them whether they can convince them, bring them back whether they can bring them back home again is an open question. But i do think the stakes are so enormously high that the recruitment of compelling characters and interlocutors for this movement, the movement against tyranny to save american democracy, it shouldnt be that hard. And that urgency, i think, one of the things that people have been pointing out, people are not tuned in yet and they are checked out. And joe biden has not been an omnipresent person out there in the world and certainly not in the way donald trump was. Not in the way barack obama was, how do you see that, you are focused on this question of the survival of american democracy. And stitching together a Popular Front that will defend it, is what happened before and if the project you see happening now. How confident are you that thats the focus . When people lock in, they get it. I think that the idea that wins is that there is a Super Majority in america that is for democracy, and it is a nonpartisan Super Majority of people who disagree with each other on 1 million different things. But, there is one thing that is a very clear choice in this election and it is between having a democracy and not. If you can get people to accept that basic idea was the popular idea, if you can get people to see that chris hayes and liz cheney are in the same room for some reason, that might mean something. There is 1 million different dyads like that, i think that you can get there over the next eight months. This is an early time for the republicans to be locking up their nominee. This is around the same time that john mccain locked it up in 2008 and john kerry locked it up in 2004, and there is this feeling when you get an early lockup in the primary, this campaigns got a head of steam, theyre going to carry this, all three of those guys i just mentioned lost in the fall. And i think we should keep in mind what the timeline is, here. Theres lots of time and a country that fundamentally, i agree with you. A lot of wood to chop. This is just a delight. You want to just go through nine, 10. Ill let you go get back to news. Still ahead, as President Biden repairs and relaunches election campaign, jen psaki and Claire Mccaskill joining me on the vital role that womens rights specifically abortion and Reproductive Rights will play in this upcoming election. 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He needs to make a big part of it about one of the most crucial obvious differences between the two parties, the two candidates in this campaign, that is a womans right to control her own body and her own reproduction. Anticipating that this will be the case, how vulnerable they are on the issue, republicans picked the woman who won former Richard Shelbys seat to deliver their partys response to the speech. In 2022, britt proudly campaigned on her opposition to abortion, putting out the celebratory ad on the same day the Supreme Court overturned roe v. Wade. Im katie britt. As a prolife mother of two, i know that life begins at conception. Its godgiven and must be protected. Thats why i thought to put president trumps prolife justices on the Supreme Court. Interesting. After alabama Supreme Court used that logic in that ad, life begins at conception which is also in a state constitution of alabama, they ruled that frozen embryos, fertilized eggs should be considered children for the purposes of civil law. Britt then said ivf services should be protected. Tonight, just in time for the state of the Union Address, alabama lawmakers are poised to pass a bill they say will do just that, trying to clean up the mess themselves that they made. Reproductive rights advocates say the bill fails to address the central problem the court ruling that frozen embryos can be can be considered people under state law. Republicans chose senator britt precisely because they know how desperately weak they are on this issue. Maybe she can help them thread the needle. Jen psaki is the host of inside with jen psaki, claire is a former democratic senator of missouri and they join me now. What are your thoughts about dobbs, Reproductive Rights, Life Beginning at conception, Personhood Bills that a majority of republican members of congress and the role that it plays in this campaign. And an enormous one, and often and undercounted an undervalued one. Weve played this movie many times over and over and over again. Leading up into 2022 you were talking about this earlier in the show, leading up to special elections, well, its not going to be on the minds of voters, its not going to turn out young voters, the truth is theres a whole group of surge voters who didnt turn out in 2020, are not counted when you look at the New York Times Poll Accounting for who is with trump and who is with biden, still, those are people that the biden team is betting on. They need to bet on, and the key for them is reminding people that trump appointed three justices to the Supreme Court that not only killed and led to this ivf decision, is the basis for, it is incumbent upon them to remind voters, and it will be a huge, huge issue in this campaign. Heres a poll result that is extremely heartening if you are the Biden Campaign thinking about what the selection looks like. Who gets credit, blame, or neither for the overturn of roe v. Wade . Do you give trump credit, 19 . These are antiabortion folks. Blaine, 33 . Neither, 48 . That neither 48 is an enormous opportunity, it seems to me, for national democrats. Its hard for me to believe its accurate. In my state we have a person who lost, life but does begin at conception, no exception for incest, and further, you are in violation of the law if you do anything that might impede the implantation of a fertilized egg. Anything. Thats the law in my state. That means iuds, that means form of, republicans say were not going to go after contraceptives. Thats exactly what theyre going to do. A chilling video from the Heritage Foundation had a woman talking about out loud that contraception is a problem. That that is something that we need to look at. And trust me when i tell you this, women are not going to forget this issue. I know that the polling may not have it vault to the top of the list, but especially in states where they have done this extreme legislating around womens most private and personal decisions, and sometimes most painful decisions theyre ever going to make. Women wont forget, and it will really help joe biden. One of the things that has been tricky, i think, early parts of the campaign when it was clear that it was going to be trump and biden. Is that unlike past campaigns, candidates felt like they had to take positions on issues. Where are you on x, and he would say, and you would defend that. Trump does a lot of hand waving. Gaza, it wouldnt happen if i was here. Its got to play itself through. Thats his position on israel gaza. On abortion, i think he recognizes the peril, but also, this is interesting. Theyre going to advocate a national ban, clearly. This is him talking about it. Hes deciding what number he likes for the weeks. He likes an even number. Take a listen to this. More and more im hearing about 15 weeks, and i havent decided yet. I havent agreed to any number, im going to see. We want to take an issue that was very polarizing and get it settled and solved so everybody can be happy. Everybody can be happy. Again, a national ban on abortion is what will happen if there is a republican trifecta, no question. It seems to me like every voter on each side of the issue, if thats what you want everyone should be Crystal Clear what that choice is. Correct. As claire was alluding to, and abortion ban opposed by the majority of the country, but its also a gateway to banning contraception, banning iuds. Banning ivf. This is what the objective is of that movement. Thats important for people to understand as well. Heres my question about the internal dynamics of these politics, particularly because youve dealt with them in your professional life. In more ways than one. The smart play, i sometimes worry that theyll pull this off partly because of the Control Trump has, would be for the antiabortion extremists and zealots that are pushing for national ban to zip it for the whole election. And be like, well, its fine, whatever. I dont think theyre going to do that. They cant. Theyre not capable of doing that. This is, the zealotry around this issue in terms of those people who are advocating for these extreme positions, they really do, its a religious fervor. They would never, this is sacrosanct. Thats not going to happen. And if in fact the republicans, if katie britt believes that we should protect ivf, then why are republicans walking the bill in the senate . By the way, introduced by a woman who was injured so significantly in combat as a Blackhawk Helicopter pilot in the military that ivf was her only option to have children, and she had two beautiful daughters, tammy duckworth, because of ivf. She stands up and says lets protected, and the woman from mississippi says, i object. Theyre making the women get out there and do this, which i think is particularly disgusting by the Republican Party. It is remarkably cynical and incredibly obvious. Not only that, because they believe in it which i think is an important thing for everybody to understand on all sides of this issue. People that are pushing this, its not, theyre not doing it for the money, its not some corrupt bait and switch. Theyre in it, they want abortion banned everywhere, all the time, they believe in that deeply. Youve also got a majority of that House Republican caucus on this personhood bill, that is essentially the exact logic of the alabama Supreme Court ruling. Exactly, mike johnson reads the fine print of the things youre signing onto and pushing forward. Youre saying your for ivf. I do think theres an element of this which is bad, i guess, a lot of these men in congress dont understand what ivf is. Theyve gotten themselves into this weird place on it, but theyve been pushing that, theyve also been pushing and sponsoring a bill banning, they are actively pushing bands on a range of contraception, and means of women making choices about their own bodies. Its not changed in congress. To your point, theyre continuing to push it forward. Josh hawleys wife is the point person on all these laws. An Ivy League Educated lawyer, former clerk of the Supreme Court, and she is single handedly doing all of this work behind the scenes to cut off womens rights to basic healthcare. Good to have you both, thank you both. Up next, and then there were two as the president ial field narrows, so does the important Arizona Senate race. Congressman Ruben Gallego joins me on his election denying opponent, next. Opponent, next. If you try vaping to quit smoking, it might feel like progress, but with 3x more nicotine than a pack of cigarettes vapes Increase Cravings trapping you in an endless craving loop. Nicorette reduces cravings until theyre gone for good. Border legislation negotiated with republicans, that was then immediately killed by donald trump, and mike johnson, would you vote for that if it did t make it over to the house . Do you support that legislation . I was very public about this since the legislation came out, i would support it. We have to recognize that we are in divided government. Were not going to get everything that we want, there were some good elements to that bill, for example, the Afghan Resettlement Act was extremely important in that, there were elements to bring in more workers through a visa program. It also was really true with the issue at the border, when it comes to border communities that are very affected by our breakdown in immigration its been happening for not just any administration but all administrations. There are border communities that are hurting trying to keepd up with the broken immigration system. This is a very good response. It wasnt perfect, and i think we have to accept that. But, it was really indicative that carrie lake did even read the bill. She rejected it outright, and encouraged republicans to reject it outright, because donald trump said to rejected. Not because it was a bad bill but because the bad bill against their politics. The difference between me and carrie lake is that im going to work for arizona solutions. She is going to work for whatever donald trump wants. Thats not what we need in arizona. Final question, the president will be offering the State Of The Union tomorrow. What are you telling arizona voters about what an agenda you see, to be part of, to join the senate and have a democratic majority and a democratic president . The most important thing we need to talk about is a freedom agenda. Number one, freedom for women to control their bodies. The fact that we are about to potentially elect a president who appointed the justices that overturned roe v. Wade and turned back the clock when it comes to women having control over their lives, again, i think its something we cannot discount. So, thats step one. If you elect donald trump and carrie lake, theyre going to put Supreme Court justices on the Supreme Court that are going to assure that roe v. Wade will continue to be not the law of the land. Number two, freedom, real economic freedom. We have done a lot of work in this administration to bring down the cost of prescription drugs, to bring down the cost of insulin, and continue to do other great work such as in arizona, and expansion of a great economy when it comes to the chips act. Were not there yet, theres still a lot of costs that we have to bring down, housing costs, cost of other things and were going to be able to do that in this administration with me as the senator are going to work to do that for everyday arizonans. Thank you, congressman gallego. That is all in on this wednesday night. Alex wagner starts right now, good evening, alex. Good evening, alex. Joining