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Parties are headed in and how they will stack up this november. Consider the scores of down ballot races. Microcosms of a country at war with itself over its priorities and its politics. The Premiere Matchup in california, where leading the volatile u. S. Senate race polls moderate adam schiff against the Liberal Democrat katie porter and republican exballplayer steve garvey, who has surged in the polls, even while barely campaigning. In North Carolina, maga voters could elevate a trump endorsed Culture Warrior in the fight for governor. And one of the countrys few true battleground states. Texas voters, ground zero for what is increasingly the top Campaign Issue in the country. What to do about the border. And across the country, 115 congressional primaries are being decided as we speak. With democrats needing to flip just four seats to take control of the house. All of that providing valuable exit polling data, informing Campaign Strategies with extraordinary stakes that include the future of reproductive rights, immigration, voting rights, criminal justice, and, of course, the overarching stake, the future of democracy. We have two hours to provide insights into all of that want extraordinary show of force. Our correspondents fanned out all across the country and talking to voters in 13 states today. A lot to get to. It brings us to the top of the ticket, the president ial primaries. It is clear that both president ial biden and donald trump are beyond anxious to get to what will be an epic rematch, fully under way. Both are so close to clinching their partys nominations, well, get ready, 2024 is likely to be the longest general campaign in u. S. History. Well, my focus is really at this point is on biden. We should win almost every state today, i think every state. Were going to have a unified party because our real opponent happens to be named biden. Theres so much at stake. Democracy, freedom, economic opportunity. If you havent voted yet in the primary season, go to i will vote. Com to find out where you can vote. Think of the alternative, folks. If we lose this election, youre going to be back with donald trump. Nbcs ali vitali is following the Haley Campaign from Mount Pleasant, south carolina. Okay. This is the one name on the ballot that is not trump or biden. And Everyone Wants an answer to this question, what is haley expecting today, and maybe more so, what is she going to do after today . Reporter look, i think i can answer one of those questions for you, chris, which is that haley is expecting to do as well as she can here. I know thats vague, but the campaign has purposefully been vague when i asked them repeatedly what does success look like, where on this map do they think they can notch a win. They got their first and what could be their only win on sunday night in washington, d. C. Primary. Now, though, theyre looking ahead to Super Tuesday and it is going to be a question of coalition building. You look at places, for example, like in virginia or in vermont, places that haley spent a little bit of time in this ramp up to Super Tuesday. Thats where they think they can cobble together a coalition like what we saw her do in New Hampshire, where it is not just your traditional republican primary voter, but maybe it is folks who want an alternative to trump, maybe it is independents, maybe it is even democrats who can play in this primary before ultimately going home to the Biden Campaign in november. But when i talk to voters in a state that is more ruby red, a place like texas, this is what those Republican Voters who showed up to haleys last event last night had to say to me. Watch. So, what happens in 2024 if it is trump versus biden . Are we on camera . Biden probably. For you . Since i was 18, im a strict republican, but im not going for trump. I would stick with the Republican Party, definitely. Even if it is trump . Yes. Thats the split that i hear at Haley Campaign events. I would say two to one they say theyre going to stay home and vote and or vote for biden or go home to trump. It is a split bag at this point. But for haley, thats the point. The idea that in her being the nominee, it could take some of the electability guesswork out of the Republican Partys game in november. Of course, as we have said before and we need to say again, you dont get to a general election without getting through a primary and that is the Haley Campaign difficulty at this juncture. I will also add for you, chris, i just spoke with a Haley Campaign official in the last few minutes. Theyre calling themselves today a bunch of happy warriors. They say at least here in the Mount Pleasant and Charleston Areas they are listening to music. Some of it a little bit on the nose including the drake song started from the bottom. Now they are here and well see where they go next at this point. All right. Ali vitali, out on the campaign trail, thank you so much. As she always is. Lets go to the big board, nbc National Political correspondent Steve Kornacki is with us. Steve, we know nikki haley would like to stay in this race. That said, what is she up against tonight . She is up against some pretty harsh realities of Delegate Math, of state rules about who can vote, and how those delegates are distributed. Lets start with if nikki haley makes noise tonight, where would it be . Where would we look . First polls to close actually, two states here that could be quite friendly to her. One is vermont, winner take all state. If you get the majority of the vote in vermont, you get all 17 delegates. Vermont was not a good state for donald trump in the 2016 republican primaries. You look at the results here. Trump got 32. 5 in vermont, barely beat john kasich. This was one of trumps worst showings in 2016. No Party Registration in vermont, independents, democrats, if you think of yourself as one of those, you can vote in this republican primary. Right away, that could be a target for nikki haley. Also closing at 7 00 tonight, take a look in virginia, again, look at the 2016 results in virginia, trump won this state, but that was an underwhelming performance for donald trump relative to what we saw in other states. Youll see this population dense washington, d. C. Suburbs of northern virginia, they do give out some delegates in virginia that are based on the Congressional District result. There is three delegates right in that northern virginia, d. C. Area, three districts where haley could certainly win. And could collect some delegates tonight. Well see if shes able to make the state wide race in virginia a competitive one. Other places you might look tonight for nikki haley, minnesota, colorado, the delegates, though, are given out on a proportional basis, so whether she actually technically wins the state or loses the state, it is not going to alter the Delegate Math too much. If she could win either one of those, that would be a big coup for her campaign. The problem for her is even if she has success, some kind of success in the states i outlined, shes looking at california, this is a closed primary. No independents. No democrats. It is a winner take all primary. 50 plus 1 take all the delegates. 169. Can donald trump get a simple majority in a closed primary . All the evidence suggests he can. Texas, 161 delegates. Very conservative electorate, very trumpfriendly demographics. The rules that make this not quite but close to a winner take all state, thats more than 300 delegates between those states and unless haley is pulling the rabbit out of the hat, trump is getting the overwhelming share of those 300 plus delegates. Arkansas, alabama, oklahoma, tennessee, very favorable demographics to donald trump. Rules in terms of how the delegates are allocated, they make a lot of those states winner take all or close to winner take all states. Just by winning in the states ive outland here for donald trump, he stands to get a massive delegate haul and by getting some of the delegates in colorado, some in minnesota, some in virginia, some in vermont, thats not going to get haley very far, just in terms of the math. And, again, unless shes winning, multiple states, outright winning multiple states where nothing we have seen in the primary results and nothing we have seen in the polling so far suggests she has much of a chance unless she does that, this trump number is going to get very high, close to a thousand. And this haley number will go up, but not by a ton. That would be one of the greatest political upsets if she wins any of those states. Steve kornacki, who almost certainly will still be at the big board this time tomorrow, we thank you for all of that. Much appreciated. Okay, so lets talk about the two prohibitive favorites. Garrett haake is with the former president outside maralago. And nbcs Aaron Gilchrist is covering President Biden. Listening to the former president , it seems like he can barely wait to dispatch of nikki haley. What is the rush and what does the Campaign Hope to get out of tonight, maybe some voters he struggled with in other states . What is their goal, just to end it . Reporter yeah, i think thats exactly right. Even though shes not winning states, every time nikki haley is on the ballot and gets 20, 30, 40 of the vote, she exposes a vulnerability that donald trump has within the republican electorate and the general election electorate at large. The Trump Campaign would like to shut that down as much as possible so they can to the degree it is possible with the candidate that they have pivot toward the general election and try to focus more on joe biden and less on this, you know, intermural republican fight. So they would like to try to put this away. They understand they cannot win the nomination outright mathematically tonight, but with a big enough sweep, they hope that perhaps they can push nikki haley closer to the exits. All of that said, the former president continues to kind of not be able to quit nikki haley, cannot quite keep his focus on joe biden even when he wants to. He spends at least some portion of every Media Appearance or Campaign Appearance making sure to attack her and even when he suggests shes not winning, not doing that well, hes giving her more oxygen to stay in this fight. All right, so, aaron, joe biden doesnt have a nikki haley. He isnt facing any real competition in these states. But can todays results or tonights, i guess, is more accurate, tell the campaign some things heading into the general . Yeah, i think so. You have the Super Tuesday voting that is happening today, combined with the State Of The Union speech the president will give on thursday and this is really a point in time where i think the campaign is looking to really ramp up its efforts to get the general election process under way. We are going to hear President Biden in his state of the Union Address on thursday talk about what he believes his successes have been so far in his administration. And then also talk about what he wants to do in the future, and you combine that with the reality around what the president has been saying about the former President Donald Trump in the last few weeks and what he believes is the threat that he poses to democracy, those are messages that youre going to hear continuously as the general Election Campaign gets closer, the Biden Campaign is by all indications looking at today as one more big round of voting that will further solidify who the competitor for President Biden is going to be going forward. I also think, chris, were going to see in the next several days more talk about where President Biden is going to be going and what hell be talking about in terms of his outreach to voters. We know that this weekend hell be heading to philadelphia on friday, after the State Of The Union, and then to georgia to the atlanta area on saturday. We also just learned that former President Trump is going to be in Georgia On Saturday as well, and so well again well have the split screen moment as we did last week, but this times squarely campaign focused for both candidates and the reality around what the general election is going to look like i think will come into sharper focus, chris. As he heads to two of the handful of battleground states. Garrett, as ive been listening to donald trump and even just yesterday hes been pretty dismissive of nikki haley, even saying he lost d. C. On purpose. Do you get any sense that the political realities and dont mistake anything about donald trump, hes done pretty well using his own political gut, could those realities make him inclined to pursue what a fox news host called a peace deal with nikki haley . Would he find her support useful, do you think . I think ultimately that is something that the Trump Campaign is going to want, whether donald trump wants it or not is another story, chris. Because he takes politics quite personally a lot of the time here, and if nikki haley doesnt come back to him with an apology and coming back on his terms, he may not personally want her support. But his campaign is sophisticated enough to understand that they do have a significant problem with women, with suburban voters, with independent voters, like those that nikki haley appeals to. Whether it comes in the form of and endorsement or some other effort to shore up his support with those demographics, if donald trump wants to be president again, theyre going to have to address that issue more completely because right now what hes been saying on the stump is basically if youre not with me now, i dont want you back later. And that is not a recipe for winning in a general election that is going to be decided by maybe 100,000, 200,000 votes in six states. That is wild. Garrett haake, even though i know it, you say it, and it is crazy. Thank you, garrett, Aaron Gilchrist, thank you as well. We got a lot more to cover here. Can haleys campaign give some clues for how to beat trump and what does it mean that she is the last republican standing . Were back in 60 seconds. N stang were back in 60 seconds everywhere but the seat. The seat is leather. Alan, we get it. You love your bike. We do, too. Thats why were americas numberone motorcycle insurer. But do you have to wedge it into everything . What . I dont do that. This reminds me of my bike. The wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. Have you seen it, by the way . Happy birthday, grandma really . Look how the brushstrokes follow the line of the gas tank. Hey hey brought my plusone. Jamie . I know what its like to perform through pain. 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And then there is the Unanimous Supreme Court ruling that allows trump to stay on the ballot, as the Washington Post succinctly puts it, to anyone hoping that trumps efforts to overturn the last election would lead to judicial system to meaningfully penalize him before the next one, recent developments have proved sobering. Joining me now, former White House Communications director, former Communications Director for hillary for america, msnbc political analyst and cohost of msnbcs How To Win 2024 podcast jennifer palmieri, senior msnbc political analyst matthew dowd. Jennifer, nothing nikki haleys campaign has done so far has put her in the winners column. D. C. Excepted. She just keeps losing. I wonder is patience a virtue here . Is she wasting her time . Do you have a different thought, particularly based on your experience as someone who knows what it is to be on a campaign up against donald trump . Yeah, she is never going to be the republican nominee, but as long as she stays in, shes helping joe biden. If you look at what happened to the republican primary, i think biden comes out in pretty good shape, we learned, i think New Hampshire, there was going to be some kind of Energy Behind an effort to have an antibiden movement, it revealed itself in New Hampshire where biden wasnt on the ballot. There was no energy, no traction for that. So, biden comes out and out of the primary in a good position. And then for trump, it just this fundamental problem for him that somewhere between 20 to 40 of Republican Voters are voting for somebody else. Now, i dont know what is in nikki haleys head, but shes making an argument, i think it is helpful to biden and to the antitrump effort overall. For Republican Voters to hear criticisms of trump from a fellow republican, and i think that that helps biden a lot with independent voters going into the general election. So, let me challenge you a tiny bit, because you mentioned New Hampshire. But what about michigan and 100,000 people who decided they were not going to vote for donald trump in a race that as garrett pointed out could be decided in very low six figures. Yeah, but they voted uncommitted, right . They didnt vote for dean phillips. Is it not voting for joe biden, if theyre generally in the democratic camp, the same as a vote in the general for donald trump . They made a decision not to do that, right . Why did they do that . They made a decision to call their group, listen to michigan, i know matt is from michigan, so i will, you know, want to hear from him about that. But, i think, you know, listen to michigan. And then you saw they got 100,000 votes. Percentagewise. It is the same uncommitted vote that donald trump got. Excuse me, oh, my gosh, that when barack obama ran in 2012. Anyway, it is a bigger number because it is a higher it is 100,000 voters. Some of those voters, i know that people in michigan think some of the voters will not come back for biden. And that the democrats will have to find different path to victory. Some of them will. And i think the Vice President the Vice President remarks on Sunday In Selma helped a bit. Partly because people who lost actual Family Members in the gaza conflict, that really want to hear concern, anger, emotion, from the president and the Vice President. And they heard that. Obviously eight months to figure for development to happen in michigan. But theyre having to prepare for other alternatives for how you win that state. But i think overall, chris, like the polls show so much so much discussion about people dont want biden to run, that even democrats didnt want him to run, if biden was really weak and im thinking about, you know, can you turn off the vote in november, a challenger would have emerged in this process, and it just didnt happen. People are they are having his back, in a way that suggests thats not going anywhere. There is that there is the gaza that is an issue, that is a real issue. Im not dismiss of that. But overall, he comes out of this with the party united behind him. I think it was helpful to go through that february 8th Special Counsel report where everybody freaked out coming to terms with the fact that he is 81. A lot of democrats have come to terms and just in it to fight for him. And he comes out of this process unscathed, which is not easy. Okay. All right. We shall see. It is early. We have a long time until the election. Matthew, nikki haley did pull a good percentage of votes in several states including nearly 27 in michigan, which is a battleground state. Our reporters are out talking to voters today and this is what Republican Voters in massachusetts and North Carolina said about her. I think shes the best chance we have right now to lead the country. And i wanted to make sure that i put out a vote against donald trump. I like the fact shes younger. I like the fact that she has Executive Experience as a governor. She also has some Foreign Policy experience. I think shes a great candidate. Shes smart and energetic. I think her speaking is upbeat. November is a long time away. But what is your sense and your experience tell you, matthew, about how many of those voters might be available to joe biden . And is it potentially enough to be decisive . Ill answer the second question first. No. It is not enough to make it decisive in this election. I think very few. One of the things i keep saying is there is no data right now that says republicans who dont like donald trump are going to vote for joe biden in a general election. You take a look at every single poll. Every single poll. 90 of republicans in the general election say right now theyre going to vote for donald trump and 90 of democrats to answer a previous question to jennifer are saying theyre going to vote for joe biden. So, all of these sort of ideas that there is these misgivings among partisans and that somehow theyre going to move over and vote for the other guy, there is just no evidence in a general election that is going to happen. I would add in 2016 there was the same conversation, a bunch of republicans are dissatisfied, theyre going to vote against donald trump and in 2020, theyre even more dissatisfied, theyre going to vote against donald trump. Donald trump got 94 of republicans in 2020 in the general election against joe biden. Thats more than ronald reagan. Thats more than george w. Bush. Thats more than john mccain. Thats more than mitt romney. Thats more than any other republican in the last 30 years has gotten the percentage of the base. I think it is a fun thing to look at as we look in the primaries. But if i were the joe Biden Campaign, i would pretty much say 90 to 95 of any republican no matter what they say during the primaries is going to vote for donald trump. Jennifer and matthew, youre both going to stick around. We have a lot more to talk about. Coming up next, were going to head to texas where the battle over the border is a big motivator for Super Tuesday voed voters today. And later, new details about Theexplosive Warehouse Fire in michigan that left one person dead. Youre watching Chris Jansing reports only on msnbc. Son dead youre watching Chris Jansing reports only on msnbc pictures] introducing, neds plaque psoriasis. Ned, ned, who are you wearing . He thinks his flaky red patches are all people see otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. Ned . Otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. 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And a state that is picking a democrat to take on senator ted cruz. No democrat has won a senate race there since 1988. It is also where a long time well known incumbent is facing a rare democratic opponent. Nbcs Priscilla Thompson is reporting in dallas. Back with us is matthew dowd. A lot of interesting stuff going on where you are. How contentious could the down ballot races be in the state today . Reporter yeah, chris, it is going to be interesting. As it relates to this senate race, you have got nine democrats vying for an opportunity to take on senator ted cruz. And important to note, if none of them get a majority today, that race is going to advance to a runoff. So, while ted cruz will focus his attention on a general election, the democrats may have two more months of duking it out for who is going to be up against him in november. And we caught up with the man who was leading the pack in terms of the democrats right now, congressman colin allred. And we asked him about the big issue that is animating this race and that, of course, is immigration. And he said he has not shied away from criticizing his party and the Biden Administration on that issue, pushing them that the status quo is not going to be enough, there needs to be more urgency around it, and he feels like the administration is moving in that direction. Though notably when i asked him if he would campaign with President Biden, if he came to the state, listen to that exchange. Do you plan to campaign with biden here . Listen, anybody is welcome to come. But my message will stay the same. Which is that im focused on texas. Reporter so if biden plans to come, will you join him . I dont know if he is. But like i said, whoever comes, trump, biden, anybody else, you will not hear anything different from me, which is im focused on texas and im focused on how i know ted cruz is not representing us. Reporter not a no, but not a yes . And you see him sort of smiling, he did not answer that last question that i posed to him. But that is really telling of where this race is right now and where it is going because as the end of the day, the people at the top of the ballot in november are going to matter and that is likely going to be President Biden facing off against former President Donald Trump. And we know from polling that there are a lot of voters out there who feel like republicans handle the issue of immigration better and so you see there allred trying to carve out his own path on this issue saying i am from texas, i know these issues very intimately, and sort of the message that he is trying to put forward on the issue of immigration and the idea that more needs to be done. Chris . Priscilla, thank you. Matthew, ill say this about colin allred, he knows the state hes running in. He knows it is a state that hasnt elected a democrat to state wide office in 30 years. This is a senate seat that democrats think they can flip. Can they . Well, ill get a little caveat, i worked on that campaign, in 1988, that the democrat won, lloyd benson won, and i was the Campaign Manager for the last democrat to win state wide in 1994 in this race. I have some familiarity with it. I think colin allred is going to lead coming out of tonight. The question is does he lead by enough does he get 50 . I think hell get close in that. But i think in the end hell be the democratic nominee. Beto orourke showed that ted cruz is vulnerable in this race. And when he ran against him in 2018. I think colin allred is right to run in this race on the bord and not run away from it. And one thing, if i were advising him to do is basically run straight at ted cruz on this border, on the border and say youve been a senator for 12 years, texas had a border for 150 years, and a problem for the last few years. Why havent you done anything . Why have you done absolutely nothing on this . I think they have a shot, but i think at this point in time it is an outside shot. I think it is a much better shot at a midterm than a president ial year because joe biden will be on the top of the ticket and likely lose texas. But i think hes got a shot. Im being told to wrap it. I have to ask you this question. If it ends up he has to run against roland gutierrez, does he skip that and does he just go after cruz starting tomorrow . Yes. Thats what i would advise him to do, go after cruz, ignore the primary, democrats will get motivated by who can take on cruz the most. I would just start my general Election Campaign tomorrow. Matthew dowd, who isnt even being paid for this advice, giving it for free, thank you, my friend. Appreciate it. And all of your experience in texas. Coming up, Donald Trumps new legal strategy to fight the gag order in the new york hush money case. Plus, how the former president s constellation of legal dramas are motivating some voters at the polls today. 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The voters have the right to listen to President Trumps unfettered responses to those attacks. Not just one side of that debate. So, how big an impact could this ruling and future potential gag orders have on the president ial race . I want to bring in nbcs Vaughn Hillyard from maralago. So, it is hard to restrain, vaughn, lets just put it simply, what donald trump has to say on and off the campaign trail. Do voters youre talking to feel like hes been unable to share his side, that hes being shut down . What are you hearing . Reporter right, there is animosity towards every one of the prosecutors who have taken on these independent cases against donald trump. Animosity from those who have been most loyal to him. Among his millions of supporters around the country. Feeling like this is a direct effort to undercut the Republican Party as a whole and the ability for the Republican Party to effectually change in washington, d. C. As the voters would like to see. When it comes to whether donald trump though is actually being silenced, look, there is nobody that is keeping him off the campaign stage, this is a matter of Campaign Resources at this point, but to an extent of that, there is also ire that so much money from the Affiliated Super Pacs had to be spent on legal bills stemming from this. Listen to two individuals who talked to Alex Tabot Outside of a Polling Location in utah today on the impact of these criminal trials on their votes today. Take a listen. Why would Michael Cohen go to jail in the Stormy Daniels case and then donald trump would have no accountability . And yet hes the guy that footed the bill . Like, of course, he brought that on himself, right . I think it is unfair. I feel like if i didnt vote for trump, i feel like i would be saying thats okay. I guess thats what i would say. What do you mean by that, thats okay . Using the Justice System to attack your political opponent. Reporter and, chris, as we move past this gop primary, with donald trump expected to secure this nomination within the next week or two, for him these criminal trials are only going to be more at the forefront of his Political Campaign because for the last year, it is not like republicans used it as a bludgeon against him politically, any of the indictments against him, and that is where you see the exact opposite from democrats in the Biden Campaign who have every intention over the next nine months to remind voters about what is at stake and what is inside of those indictments that have led to these trials. Vaughn hillyard, good to see you. Thank you. One month after his wifes conviction, Jury Selection is under way right now for james crumbly. The michigan father facing Involuntary Manslaughter charges tied to his sons Mass Shooting at Oxford High School in michigan, murdering four of his classmates two years ago. Jennifer crumbly was the first parent ever convicted, and her testimony then will be felt here. She repeatedly claimed her husband was responsible for the safety and storage of the gun used in the shooting. Explosions lit up michigan skies overnight when a warehouse storing Combustible Materials caught fire in clinton township. The Officials Say a 19yearold, about a quarter mile away, was struck and killed by debris. Nbcs Adrienne Broaddus joins us from clinton township. What is the latest we know there . Reporter well, chris, through much of the morning and now entering into the afternoon, firefighters have been working behind us trying to cool those hot spots after this massive fire which could be seen at least five miles away. I want to take you through the timeline of what happened. First of all, the fire chief telling us this was a vape shop and inside they had at least 100,000 vape pens with lithium batteries. Just before 9 00 last night, the first call came in, reporting explosions. Soon after, that big fire. Now, this fire lasted for hours, and so did the explosions. What caused it is unclear. But the fire chief says the people who were inside were able to escape. A 19yearold, according to investigators, who was about a quarter of a mile away was hit in the head by some of the flying debris. Much of the debris, canisters containing butane and nitrous gas went flying into the air, landing up to a mile away. Meanwhile, investigators are trying to determine what caused this. And who, if anyone, is responsible. Chris . Adrienne, thank you for that update. Voters casting their ballots right now in denver. Up next, the key data expected from exit polls with two of our campaign experts. More of our Super Tuesday coverage to come with Chris Jansing reports on msnbc. Y coverage to come with Chris Jansing reports on msnbc. 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Matthew dowd and jennifer are back. Jennifer, what question or questions do you think will be most important to get the answers to tonight for joe biden . What i was interested prior to last week with the Supreme Court decision was whether or not you would vote for donald trump if convicted. That not that he would ever be convicted necessarily, but it is the Biden Campaign information about how, you know, that is critical information for the Biden Campaign. All right, trump may not be convicted but that tells you critical things about that person. About the unease with january 6th. Perhaps with classified documents, that they can be, and they may not be republicans per se, they could be republicans. So i think any information that gets at you know, the haley voters are the most interesting to me. Whats behind their concerns. Is there anything in there that Biden Campaign can mind, anywhere, some percentage, some small percentage, 5 , 10 , of those people open to voting for biden. Who did you vote for in the last election is a very key question, too, because that will tell you if theres new people turning out or if you know, it may be that a lot of people who voted for haley voted for biden in 2020. They may be disgruntled former republicans who voted for biden. Let me ask you about the republican side if i can, matthew. I think both the inclination and the reality for folks around trump is let trump be trump. I dont know that exit polling is going to inform what his messaging is on the campaign, but certainly, it can help his campaign with ads and things then down ballot. What are you going to be looking for . Every time anybody says what should the strategy be, let trump be trump. Do you go to zeus and say let zeus be zeus . Hes going to be who he is. To me, at the most interesting thing which weve seen develop, and im going to look at it tonight, is how out of sync even though they vote for donald trump overwhelmingly, how out of Sync Republicans views in the primary are with whos going to decide the primary in the general election. When you look at those republican primary voters, theyre all backing trump. They dont want to fund ukraine, they dont want the u. S. To be active in the world and oppose roe v. Wade and want some sort of National Abortion ban. All three of those issues are overwhelmingly unpopular in a general election and you cant find the same dynamic among biden primary voters. Theyre right along in sync primarily with where the general election is. And so to me, the most interesting thing is how the Republican Party and well see it tonight, well see if we see it tonight, continues to be even though theyre going to vote for donald trump and all of that, how way out of sync they are with the average swing or independent voter, majority, in the general election. How do you use that . Im thinking particularly, because lets not kid ourselves, not only is control of the house at stake. So is control of the senate. Theyre both so incredibly tight right now. How do you message if youre republican in a swing state a swing district . Well, if youre a Non Donald Trump candidate, its going to be very hard because he uses up all the oxygen in the room. You have to try to, and even though they dont do this, which i can never understand, they refuse to separate themselves from donald trump and keep going along, going along. I guess because theyre afraid of his primary voters in a primary. 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