republican party. president biden delivers his state of the union address this thursday. also ahead, congressman eric swalwell on the danger of donald trump escaping accountability in our nation's courts. illinois governor j.b. pritzker joins us at the table days after his fate became the latest to kick donald trump off the presidential ballot. grab your coffee and settle in. welcome to the week again. as we come on the air, criminal defendant donald trump heads into the week with a dominant hold on the republican party in the presidential primary. last night, trump won caucuses in idaho and missouri. he also swept the republican convention caucuses in michigan. today, voters in our nation's capital are voting in the d.c. republican presidential primary. it might be nikki haley's first shot to pick up a win even as trump gets closer to clinching the nomination. in two days, voters in 16 states and one territory will cast their ballots on super tuesday. on thursday, president biden will deliver the state of the union address. by friday, congress must reach a deal to avoid a partial government shutdown. it's a week for the history books, so who better to join us now than nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. good morning. i'm happy to see you. i'm a little disoriented without your fireplace behind you. >> [laughter] >> i know, right? >> carrying it around in the background. >> just bring the fire. >> we can do something about that. >> exactly. >> michael beschloss, this moment that we are currently living through, how will history view this moment? put it in context. you have turmoil. you have what one could call an unprecedented situation happening within the republican party apparatus. the polling numbers, it is what it is. you have the court cases, all of this rolling into a consequential week on top of the state of the union address. >> this is the year, i can say it very simply, symone, when america either became a dictatorship or will remain a democracy. that question will be known within what, eight months, november? this week will have a lot to do with it. you have president biden giving a state of the union which is probably going to be one of his biggest audiences this year and his best chance to tell people what he wants to do, the same way that bill clinton in 1996 said the era of big government is over, causing a lot of people to look at him other than something that was liberal and had lost the 1994 congressional elections. >> one of the things to talk about history in the context of the moment for me, it is really compelling in that you have president biden who, as you know, just four of laying out, okay, this is the road we have traveled so far. this is the road ahead. at the same time, you are viktor orban, the hungarian prime minister, traveling to mar-a-lago -- >> unbelievable. >> to visit with the president. i don't even know what the question is here because it is so frustrating that you have one guy who was embracing authoritarian tracked and trying to grind it out of america to force us into this space in our face with it and tell us that what we are seeing and what we feel in reaction to that is not real. is there any other moment in history, particularly if you look back at the 1930s and the elements of fascism that try to rise up at that time, how do you contextualize this moment in the context of what we know historically and how we dealt with that and how, in my view, we are not dealing with it today? >> perfect comparison. 1940, 1941, just as you said, we were dealing with the threat of fascism at home from people and groups that would beat up jewish people and black people outside of rallies. at the same time, a broad, the danger of hitler and mussolini and fascism around the world, so into that moment came franklin roosevelt with his state of the union address january of 1941. he said america stands for four freedoms, both at home and around the world. religion, freedom from want, freedom from fear, freedom of speech and religion. that goes for the world and at home. what i am saying is that we are like that in 2024 because we are not only facing, as you said, a domestic authoritarian threat from donald trump and people who want to see a dictatorship next year, but at the same time he is connecting with dictators abroad late viktor orban and putin and perhaps the leader of turkey, possibly elements in china and elsewhere. these people are going to lock arms and i'm only responsible for the past, not a future, but given all of this, if these hostile governments would like to see a trump elected, take a look at october 2024. the chances that they are not going to make a big effort to make trouble and chaos to make joe biden look bad, i think those chances are very large. >> he tried to overturn a fair and free election. we look at the company that he is keeping, those who are visiting him at mar-a-lago. you had this just yesterday from one of his rallies in greensboro, north carolina. he's actually trying to flip the script and say that it's president biden who is a threat to democracy. let me read you this from the washington post. donald trump made a renewed attend to send criticism that he's a threat to democracy on its head, accusing president biden, without evidence, of conspiring against the united states with his policies at the southern border. i wonder in what ways you expect the state of the union address that we are going to hear from a biden on thursday -- yes, he will take credit for the things that his administration has done but to what extent will he also be creating a contrast with donald trump? >> he has to. that is what roosevelt did in 1941. he said that this is not a normal year. americans have to make a choice. we have to essentially issues between freedom and democracy for a worldwide slavery and dictatorship. any other year, that would be an overstatement of people running for office in this country for president, the most important american election in history. it's usually not. it's over tax cuts or something. this year, it could have to do with whether people literally end up going to prison by the threat of donald trump who has threatened to use our police and our military forces to go after his political enemies. >> he's being very clear about what he wants to do. >> that's the thing. it's frustrating! he's telling you and everyone's like, okay, whatever. >> even the way that the right up in the washington post about his comments last night, it is as though he accused without evidence. it's also not true. it's also not true. michael, it's this an anomaly and have we ever had this level of lying and appear attempts of gaslighting from a candidate who once was, who was also a former president looking to be the president again? >> i've seen a lot of lying throughout american history. this is stratospheric. this goes way beyond the level of anything that you have seen before. the other thing is that people should recognize that never, ever have we've seen a major party nominee or ex president say, elected me and my promise is that i will be a dictator and i will tell you what to do and send some of you to prison. i may even start wars to help myself politically and strengthen myself in the way that dictators do, so all i'm saying is for anyone who is anxious about this choice this fall, america has a very stark decision to make, and that is he has told you what this is going to look like in a year. anyone who votes for him or decides not to vote will allow him to become president. they have made a very big statement. >> you know, you are a historian and not a psychologist or psychiatrist. >> thank god for everyone. >> as we may need from time to time. >> right. >> michael, if you can, what is it about people in their move towards this type of a leader? see, i put it in terms of, are you really that desperate that you are going to sacrifice your own personal freedoms thinking that this guy who's telling you he's going to be a dictator for a day -- >> no dictator is ever a dictator test for a day. >> we've seen that a lot in history. have it back in 24 hours. why are people susceptible to believing that and moving into that space so readily without critically stepping back and going, i am looking around me and looking around the world and seeing where this type of behavior has not led to good things. it has not elevated peoples freedoms but has taken those freedoms away. okay, let's do that. you have some understanding of -- >> i think it begins with the schools don't teach civics anymore and have cut out a lot of history and social studies. a lot of very smart people around the country with very good intentions no longer really know the difference between dictatorship and democracy. plus, if we get to this fall and there's chaos in the world and it makes joe biden look like some elements of jimmy carter in october 1980, i think a lot of people will -- he has lost control but we think he is a good person. let's say there is domestic unrest in american cities. i'm afraid you are going to see, to put it very specifically, independent women in the suburbs of philadelphia saying trump makes my skin crawl and i hate what he is going to do but biden has lost control and we have to do something. god help us if we come to that. it may happen. >> michael, you know that donald trump is out on the stump bragging about overturning roe v. wade. they are trying to figure out what to do in light of this ruling from the alabama supreme court on ivf, which is incredibly politically unpopular. i want you to listen to what jill biden had to say about trump on friday in atlanta. >> all he's doing is talking about himself. donald trump is dangerous. >> yes! >> to women and to our families. >> yes! >> we simply cannot let him win. we can't wake up on november 6th like we did in 2016 terrified of the future ahead of us, thinking, oh my god, what just happened. >> right. >> what are we going to do it now? >> yeah. we must reelect joe biden and kamala harris. >> [applause] >> michael, when the supreme court decided to take up from senior the claim, it fell to a lot of folks who were eager to see accountability, it tilted on its axis a little bit and, yes, this was always going to be about voters and was always going to be about a plea for democracy. that is now even more in focus for voters as the final line, as the people who are going to hold a line on our democracy. it's my sense that that is the message we are going to hear from now to november. >> i think it is. i think it's a fair one. that is what is at issue this year. take a look. come back to the 1940 parallel that michael steele raised, which is absolutely right. franklin roosevelt, in his state of the union address, he did not put it this way, but what he was conveying was, you may have problems with some of my policies. you may not like me. and the only person who is standing between you americans and the world and dictators like hitler and mussolini and the imperial japanese. it's not overstatement. if joe biden on thursday night can make this essentially one sentence that everyone remembers along the lines of something as simple as the era of big government is over, he will have used his opportunity. >> just we'll quick on that point, symone, and get the republicans and the house to boo democracy. that is essentially what -- >> that's going to be the contract. >> you know, it's interesting. we talk about democracy. we are sitting here. this sunday, today, if the commemoration of the 59th anniversary of bloody sunday where folks like protesters in selma marched across that bridge. today, vice president harris is going to join others, reverend sharpton, civil rights leaders, marching across that bridge. march 7th is the actual anniversary of bloody sunday, also the state of the union. >> yes. what what the anniversary of cellmate tells me is, lyndon johnson, as a result of what happened in selma, came out a week later for voting rights bills that were passed in december of 1965. he would not have done it unless there were people demonstrating at selma and everyone else. >> that's right. >> any of you who think that you can just wait on some leader to save you, you can do it. people have to be involved in this system. if you like democracy, as i dearly beg you to do, please defended this year because it needs it. >> michael beschloss, thank you. >> i love being with you always. >> thank you. >> ahead, folks, congress is already staring down another government shutdown deadline. this comes days after passing a short term funding bill. california congressman eric swalwell is standing by to join us next. you are watching the weekend on msnbc. on msnbc. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you 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question, thinking about the nations economy, how would you rate economic conditions today? you have excellent, good, 26% americans, fair to poor 70% of americans. how are democrats getting this messaging on the economy so wrong for voters that they think with low unemployment, low inflation, job creation, growing expanding economy, the 401(k) s are better than they were a year ago, but six months ago. what is wrong here? what is the disconnect that people think that joe biden is presiding over the worst economy in a decade? >> our economy is a comeback story that we have to start telling, michael. when it comes to messaging, we are at our worst when we try to speak to the head and we try to get all cerebral and we talk about the numbers, the unemployment numbers and gdp growth. that doesn't mean anything, especially to wage workers who may not have seen that 24% growth last year in the stock market. they want you to talk to the heart and the gut and they are looking at a phrase that i hear all the time from friends and family, which is breathing room. they want breathing room in their finances. they want to know that they are going to be able to save a little bit in case they get a blown tire or the washing machine goes out. maybe they want to take the kids to disneyland. they want to know that they are going to have a breathing room in their finances. i think we need to speak a little more plainly about it. we need to connect how our policies at the top line of low unemployment, of seeing inflation flattening out, how that connects to breathing room in your finances. the president frankly needs to be out there more across america. he's at his best when he is with blue-collar, regular americans talking about how his policies connect. >> i mean, there was a little silence there. yes, this just makes so much sense. why is this so sensible, grassman? you made it so plain. why are people making it so complicated. >> why is it so complicated? >> it's literally just as simple as you said. we started this segment coming in from sound with nikki haley. i'm wondering your thoughts about the former governor of south carolina being in this race, this argument that she is now making about donald trump. she keeps towing up to the line but not going over it. i know governor newsom of california said nikki haley is one of the best surrogates for democrats in the cycle. what do you think about that? >> well, i would rather it be us than donald trump right now. i'm hearing the concerns about uncommitted voters in michigan. the president has work to do their, certainly, but when you look at michigan, ten different counties voted for 30% or more for nikki haley. across the board in the primaries, 30% of republican voters say they are never going to vote for donald trump. that is a hell of a math problem for donald trump, especially when you look at back in 2020 it was only 5% of republican voters who said they were never going to vote for donald trump. he has a real math problem here. he has a ceiling that keeps coming down every week when he shows us and reminds us who he is. every day that nikki haley stays in this race, it shows joe biden who the voters are that are gettable for him in the campaign. >> here is the thing, congressman. some of this is playing out on the presidential campaign trail and some of it is playing out in the house of representatives. this is from the washington post on wednesday talking about speaker johnson and the house gop. the lack of unity among house republicans who is first year in the majority was defined by their inability to agree on must address issues this weekend in johnson's hand a scene ago she's without a cohesive message on conservative demands. yes, that impacts of the republican caucus. they cannot get their act together. it also impacts the general body, your ability to actually get things done. there is another one on the horizon and one more after that. we spoke with your colleague yesterday. he said, i don't think this friday's deadline is the one to worry about. i think it's the one after that. my question to you, the chaos in their caucus, how much is it costing the american people? >> the cost of the chaos is that we cannot plan anything long term. we can't put our best scientists to work to help cure cancer because we budget them week-to-week. we can't put the tsa workers who protect our airports and give them any certainties so that the lines are shorter when you want to take a family vacation or go see a relatives. we are budgeting them week-to- week. we are feeling this across the government because of the chaos. i think that's what democrats have to show. government is at its best when its leaders govern. it is at its worst when they just want to rule. republicans have an interest in adjust ruling, rolling over your freedoms and restricting them, and democrats have an interest in governing. i think the story that we need to tell which really hits with folks just that i-95 about a year ago collapsed just outside philadelphia. most experts said it was going to take one year to get the critical portion of the freeway back up and running. it was causing an extra half hour to an hour delay in peoples commutes. that got fixed in about two weeks because of a democratic administration and governor who wanted to get things done. i think we have to tell that story. we want to govern. we want to get things done. these guys are only interested in the chaos. all they want to do is rule over you. >> congressman, i want to shift to something a little bit close to home and certainly close to your heart, the upcoming california u.s. senate race. you have a situation now where steve garvey, there are public in candidates, is basically in a statistical tie for first place with adam schiff. give us your assessment of the race there at this moment. does this boil down to a shift garvey race in the fall coming out of the jungle primary? >> i am on team schiff. i have been in the briefs with him. i've seen the dollars he has delivered for california. i have a lot of respect for katie porter and barbara lee. it looks like it is going this way. frankly, if that's the case, if it is adam and garvey in the general in california, the great news is that democratic donors and activists will be able to spread their resources to arizona to ohio to help sharon brown or to montana to help jon tester. there are other critical senate races where resources are going into california right now. with one democrat coming out, it's going to be a real boost to the other seats we need to protect. >> congressman, stick around with us. after the break, we want to have you put on your house judiciary committee hat and talk to us about the legal lifeline the supreme court may have thrown donald trump this past week. this is the weekend this past week. this is the weeken head & shoulders bare clinically proven dandruff on msnbc. you always got your mind on the green. 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>> i don't know. i don't know. i mean, you always want to think someone will, but i don't know. when you go in and you talk about revenge, when you go and you talk about vindication, when you talk about what it means, i don't know what that means. only he can answer for that. what i can answer for is i don't think there should ever be a president that is above the law. i don't think that there should ever be a president who has total immunity to do whatever they want to do. >> first of all, the deep sigh at the beginning of her answer, congressman, is the tell where she lands. i just really quickly want to put that side by side what she just said with the timeline for the supreme court immunity appeal, april 22nd for oral arguments in june to july for the supreme court decision. summer and fall are -- there are a lot of folks, yourself included, who are nervous that he is going to escape accountability yet again. when you take that answer from nikki haley and put it side by side with the timeline from the supreme court, what do you think at this point is the most likely path to see in donald trump held accountable? >> democracy is gone if donald trump is put back in office. we need to be absolutely clear about that. he tried to take it away when it was january 6th and he was at risk of losing power. he was unsuccessful. he won't be unsuccessful the next time. we need to be clear-eyed. i'm not worried too much about it, alicia. it has never been our pathway to victory to rely on the courts. donald trump needs to be held accountable, but what he risks and what i have said to my constituents, what he risks if he is successful in delaying all of these cases beyond the election, is that in addition to the election being a referendum on the trump slump economy that he brought us in his first term, it also becomes a referendum of if donald trump will escape justice. he will only motivate more voters to turn out who won't want to see him held to a different standard and be able to make his own cases go away. i'm not worried about that at all. i will let our legal play out as it must be this we are organizing and mobilizing and not going away. >> congressman, there are a lot of people there who are worried. what do you say to those folks that are like, oh, i hear you, i see you at the supreme court. i see what they have done previously when it comes to roe v. wade and a number of other cases. i see the dragging of the feet. they say it's important to take up but they are taking their time. i see donald trump continuing to attack everyone from d.a. fani willis in fulton county and i just see donald trump getting to do whatever he wants. people continue to vote for him. calm the people down. tell the people something. >> first and foremost, we are the winners. donald trump's best day was november 2016. a mom in michigan got on the plane and went to the capitol the day after he was sworn in and participated in a women's march with millions of other moms across america. that mom knocked on doors in the 2018 election and flipped some cards to make nancy pelosi the speaker. that mom worked in 2020 over zoom to put joe biden in the white house and held on to the house and went to the senate. in 2022, when she was told that a red wave was going to wipe the progress out, we added a seat to the senate and had a very, very narrow margin in the house. if you think that mom and her friends when it comes to their abortion rights, when it comes to their kids right to be safe and free from gun violence in schools, you think that mom is going to go away this november? no, absolutely not! she is fired up. she knows what to do. your optimism has to be get more optimism. if you are pessimistic about it, all you do is risk keeping other people who we need to show up to stay at home. >> when you talk about the mom, i have to tell you it makes me think of the concede in a country song where i'm waiting for you to be like, that mom was my mom. >> congressman, before you get out of here, i want to talk a little hunter biden. you did the congressional jiu- jitsu. you went counterprogram english i really appreciated in the conversation when hunter biden was there. talk to us about the approach you took where, instead of, hey, hunter, when was the last time you committed a crime? you turned it around. did your father ever employ any employees to work in the oval office? as a leader of the party, has your father tried to install a daughter in law or anyone else in the family? no. that approach to me was expert. talk to us a little bit about those hearings and how you thought they went and why it is important for you to do what you did. >> thanks, michael. it was so important to show my colleagues and your viewers in this transcript that republicans, as they are putting on their boots and saddling up on the high horse and sidell-ing over the biden impeachment, they are completely trying to ignore and erase what donald trump did. they did nothing when donald trump was cashing in on the oval office or putting his family members into positions of power, seeing his daughter get 41 trademarks from china while she worked in the oval office, or for jared kushner to take a two billion dollar deal with the saudis as he is leaving the white house. by the way, bottom line upfront on hunter biden, they have nothing. they proved nothing. there was no evidence that collected any alleged wrongdoing to the president. they could not even collect any wrongdoing outside of hunter biden. we have to play more offense on this and put republicans on their heels. that was what i wanted to show in that line of questioning. >> california congressman, thank you so much, friend. >> my pleasure. >> still ahead, folks, illinois governor davy pritzker joins the we can table to discuss biden's reelection campaign and his work to contrast biden's immigration record with trump's. also, be sure to follow us on social media. our handle everywhere is @theweekendmsnbc. is @theweekendmsnbc. >> tech: cracked windshield? 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we've often talked about these things in very generic terms, but you and i know as well as simone and alicia how personal this is for a lot of americans, talk to us a little bit about that? >> it's personal because we are commemorating a day that john lewis and hassan williams and -- tear gassed and beaten on the bridge still named after a clansmen, edmund peasant was a ku klux klan's man, and it was just to get the right to vote -- it's personal to me, my mother wasn't from alabama, i was born and raised in new york. people in various parts of the country including some northern states had put out every impediment that robbed us of the right to vote, because of the color of our skin so every year we go back to that bridge because john lewis and others that are named were beaten and tear gassed and it led to dr. martin luther king coming in picking up that march, marching to montgomery, but the drama of that march and the exposing of the brutality of what was going on in alabama is what drove the voting rights act becoming law in 1965. the reason, michael it is significant today for vice president kamala harris to be there as she has been there before, and those of us with her and those that have kept this going in selma, i'm gonna do my show from the civil rights museum that is right there, at the front of the bridge. the reason it's important is that this supreme court has taken out section five of the voting rights act, in many ways the supreme court that has denied women's right to vote, taken out jobs, has taken out affirmative action, has also been the anti-voting rights court and that we gather today with the vice president who is the first black woman to be the vice president of the united states and the first woman, because the voting rights act. she clearly is the right one to help lead us across that bridge and because we're facing a court that was stacked by donald trump. donald trump bragged about how he overturn dobbs, he overturn the voting rights act section five, he overturned affirmative action, and anyone that wants to take the -- in the last year we've had a rollback on about half a century of civil and human rights laws by the supreme court. if that don't make you vote, i don't know what will. >> reverend sharpton, it is a history, a mentor of mine always says history is a broken continuity. i think a lot of times when people talk about the civil rights movement and as we talk about bloody sunday it is hard, it's easy for some folks to forget that we are talking about recent history, this is less than 60 years ago and to your point there would be no vice president kamala harris without what happened on that bridge, and concurrently the strategic work that happened after. this is not something, we're not talking about 150 years ago, we're talking about less than 60 years, and it will be very easy for us to slip back to a place where we have less rights if folks are not paying attention, active and, voting but also holding their elected officials accountable. >> it's not only that we may slip back, we are slipping back, the supreme court has taken out the section five of the voting rights act, they've taken out affirmative action, so it's not what could happen, it is happening which is why you are right, people have to come out and vote with a passion all over this country even when they set up impediments. the brennan center just came out with a report that showed that with the districts that were concerned with the voting rights act protection, then you had to have preclearance to vote, those districts turnout in terms of comparing black to white voting has gone backwards. so there is a direct effect, so all of those people that said well i'm not voting in 2016, i don't know about hillary or trump, you put three people in the supreme court that robbed us of the right to vote, rob women of reproductive rights, robbed us of affirmative action, that's what you not voting did, which is why people need to vote today and that's why for vice president kamala harris to be there is to remind us where we came from. they shed blood on that bridge, nobody is asking you to bleed, we're asking you to stand up for what's right. >> reverend al sharpton, who better to have with us today. thank you from -- politicsnation is going to be live from salma tonight, five pm eastern, right here on msnbc. now i want you to grab another coffee or tea, because we've got another ground to cover on the weekend in our next hour we are joined by illinois governor jaime pritzker, andrew weissmann, and barbara mcquade, you're watching the weekend on msnbc, stay with us. withs. u g scent of gain flings... time stops. 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