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nobody knows where the bullet comes from. >> nothing's making it any easier. >> if you don't have a motive, it's hard to know which direction to go. >> we were just never going to know. >> but someone knew. >> she called me and she said, "i think i know something about a murder. " >> we never could find out why trent was killed because it was something this weird. >> she became the key. >> would she also become the next victim? >> she was scared to death to confront him. >> let me ask you a question, you're not setting me up, are you? >> she knew what he was capable of. >> and thus she was terrified. >> and thus she was terrified. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello and welcome to "dateline. " trent digiuro was a force on the football field, popular and fiercely loyal to his wide circle of friends. then late one night, the charming athlete was shot dead. his killer left few clues, and the case sat cold until someone came forward with a stunning secret. what police asked the tipster to do next would make her a target. how much would she risk to right a wrong? here's keith morrison with "the motive. " ♪ ♪ ♪ >> her heart was on fire. lost to her. the canned music, the hum of other voices in the bar. there was only him. they were in the deep end now. and as lovers in the flush of new commitment sometimes do, they confessed their sins of the abandoned past. the worst things they'd ever done. words, just words. best forgotten until they could no longer be ignored. lexington, kentucky. one year before that night in the bar. a house where students lived. and the music and laughter and chatter of a birthday party swelled and ebbed and drifted in and out of the evening air. >> it wasn't a huge party. it was just a low-key party with some good friends. >> they were about to be seniors, the young men who'd rented the place, who'd hosted the party. >> we had a group of guys, four guys that got along extremely well. >> they were big men on campus. they played football. the university of kentucky's beloved wildcats. antonio o'ferral was a quarterback. >> in lexington, kentucky if you play for the cats, you're pretty much a well-known entity. >> the birthday boy, 21 years old, was a true rarity, a wildcats walk-on. he had no scholarship, no invitation, he'd just showed up and tried out for the team. and over three years of hard work he had earned a starting position. >> here we go! >> trent digiuro, gentle giant. >> you know, everybody called him a big teddy bear. he was the great protector of all of our friends. >> the party was sweet, informal. friends snapped pictures and evening dawdled into night. it was after midnight when the party wound down. >> i think we turned in somewhere between 12:30, 1:00. >> antonio and his girlfriend went to bed. outside, trent and some of the others settled under the light on the front porch. out there, beyond the streetlights, was impenetrable dark. inside -- >> we were already in a faint sleep, and we heard a loud bang. >> one of them must have slammed the screen door. but no. >> well, within ten seconds you started to hear the chaos outside. the screaming, the yelling, the crying. >> and there was trent. slumped to one side in his chair under the light. >> trent was bleeding out of his ears and his eyes and his nose and his mouth. and it was a horrific scene. >> horrific and confusing. that loud bang had been a gunshot. but from where? somewhere out there in the dark? had someone intentionally fired a gun at their gentle giant, their teddy bear? in their panic and distress, they did not understand. how could they? the nature of the mystery launched here. or who, in a haze of love, may have learned the answer. >> it was just so senseless. once you found out why, it was even worse. >> just who was trent digiuro, the target? >> we all started hanging out from first grade, 6 years old. it's pretty neat. >> peyton turner and sharalea bollinger were his life long friends. >> if you were his friend, you were his friend and that's all that mattered. >> there wasn't a group for him. there was no group. everybody got treated just the same. >> trent was in fourth grade when he started playing football in his hometown of goshen, kentucky, just outside louisville. by high school he was captain of the team, had lots of friends. so popular, trent was homecoming king, with sharalea his queen. >> it was pretty special. i mean, just to -- >> oh my gosh, yeah. >> to be part of that and to be voted as that, especially with trent. >> when it came time for college, trent set his sights high. he turned down football scholarships to smaller schools. >> at one point he says, you know what, i just got to know if i can play in the bigtime. in a division i school. >> mike digiuro is trent's dad. >> so he walked onto university of kentucky, which is in the southeast conference, which is about as big as they come. >> sure. >> and he worked real hard to get to where he was. >> and trent's teammates saw that hard work. >> trent had the ability to perform. so, while he might have been a walk-on, his performance allowed him to endear himself to others very quickly. >> that july, as trent practiced football and prepared for his senior year, his parents went to lexington to see him and to talk about his future. >> he was trying to decide what he wanted to do with his life. he was talking about maybe going to law school or business school. >> did he talk about his birthday celebration? >> we knew he was gonna have some kind of a thing and that he was supposed to come home that next day to celebrate his birthday with us, and he never made it. >> no. and a creeping fear washed over the university of kentucky football team. was a killer targeting them? and if so, who would be next? >> coming up -- >> i couldn't even believe it. i couldn't understand it. who would murder somebody so wonderful? >> the investigation begins. >> everyone talked. but they didn't see anything. >> and was there more terror to come? >> we were so nervous driving down the street at practice thinking that there might be someone in the woods who wanted to take you out. >> when "dateline" continues. 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" >> did they talk? >> everyone talked. but with each and every person that i talked to, they didn't see anything. >> 80 miles away, at 5:00 a. m, the digiuros'phone rang. >> it's numbing. it's hard to imagine the feeling. >> suddenly your life doesn't make sense anymore. >> it absolutely stops and pivots in an instant. and then it was kinda, you know, "now what? " >> and soon everybody knew. >> i couldn't even believe it, couldn't understand it. who would murder somebody so wonderful? >> it was about then that the first really useful evidence came back from the medical examiner. bullet fragments were recovered in the autopsy, and the ballistics showed it wasn't a handgun at all that killed trent. it was a rifle, which turned detective evan's first theory upside down. >> well, the theory about walking up the side of the house and firing a shot -- >> that goes out the window. >> that's probably out the window. a rifle's not designed for a close-range shot. >> officers canvassed the neighborhood. a woman who lived across the street said she awoke to a loud noise and it sounded like it was right outside her house. >> so based on that, we actually took one of our marksmen from the police department and ask him, "could this shot be made from here, from this angle? " and we literally re-enacted that possibility. >> did it make sense, the location you found? >> it did make sense. we didn't eliminate the possibility that something else could occur. but this looked pretty strong to us. >> so, a working theory, that trent was shot from across the street. ballistics suggested it was a rifle with a particular and uncommon type of barrel. but who owned it? and why did he or she shoot trent? no idea. the football team entered a world of dread. was some hater targeting the team? was one of them next? nothing happened. >> but days and weeks and months went by and nothing happened. and over time the fear eroded, but the investigation went nowhere. did you ever get to the place where you thought, "we'll just have to live with this uncertainty for the rest of our lives? " >> i would say four years into it, it's like doesn't make any difference. >> yeah, not gonna bring him back. >> it is not gonna bring trent back. but still it's "why did this happen? " >> you're four years in, five years in, and really no closer to solving it. >> your first case and it -- >> day one. that will make you doubt yourself. >> and then one day a particular woman happened to see an anniversary story about the unsolved murder of the football player back in kentucky. a woman who'd once h sat in a b in a fog of love. and who now was quite terrified. >> a break in the case from out of the blue. an ex-lover reveals all, including a motive for murder almost too absurd to believe. coming up -- >> this could be the reason that we never could find out why trent was killed, is because it was something this weird. >> when "dateline" continues. " her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we got him under a new plan. but then they unexpectedly unraveled their "price lock" guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the "un-carrier". you sing about "price lock" on those commercials. 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" >> like, let's get this out of the way. >> let's just get to it, you know, that sort of point in the relationship where you say, let me hear the worst. >> and her boyfriend said, "i killed trent digiuro. " >> and at first she sort of sloughed it off, you know? "eh, sure you did. " >> didn't believe him? >> no, of course not. but then he started describing it. you know, exactly how he did it. >> but she still didn't want to believe it. after all, she'd fallen in love with the guy. so she said she kind of buried it. stayed with him for another year. but now, years later and single again, she had seen a story in the newspaper about the fifth anniversary of trent's murder, in which trent's dad was quoted, "somebody knows what happened. " >> she started really thinking about it, and it touched her. >> but she was so frightened of him, she said. she was determined to remain anonymous. >> they know each other intimately. she knows how he would react to certain situations. >> yep. >> and she was terrified. >> he certainly would've remembered his conversations with her. >> if you told someone that you committed a murder, you would certainly remember having told them that. >> yes. >> so, tom bullock went to detective evans. >> we agreed that whatever information i would give him would be anonymous, because for all we know, the whole thing could've been hogwash. >> that's sort of tricky, isn't it? i mean, when you've got somebody making an accusation, you have to be able to talk to that person. >> well, yeah. but at that point, beggars can't be choosers. >> so he gave you a name. >> so he gave me a name. he gave me the name of shane ragland. >> shane ragland. the woman's ex-boyfriend. but who was he? didn't take long to find out. shane was the son of a wealthy businessman. just so happened, shane attended the university of kentucky at the very same time as trent digiuro. but after college, he didn't do so well. he ran up at least a dozen convictions, drug charges, multiple duis, and so on. so detective evans went back to attorney bullock. >> is there any more? can you get me any more? and ultimately he started talking about a motive. >> and that's when the whole story took a turn into "the twilight zone. " >> he told me that it was concerning shane ragland being blackballed from a fraternity. >> what'd you think when you heard that? >> that's a stupid reason to kill somebody. >> the fraternity in question was sigma alpha epsilon, sae. detective evans looked through sae's records, and there it was, a pledge list with shane's name crossed off. >> and then it hit. this could be the reason that we never could find out why trent was killed, is because it was something this weird. >> evans went to one of trent's closest friends and asked, had he heard of this guy shane ragland? >> and he said, "shane ragland. " and then i could just sort of see it at that point on his face, you know? and i let him tell the story. >> a story about an unpleasant little incident. shane was among the freshmen pledging the sae fraternity. and one day, as they were getting to know the campus -- >> they went into trent's dorm and trent was there and on the wall was a calendar of some sorority girls. >> when shane saw that calendar, right away he pointed to one of the girls'pictures and he bragged that he'd had sex with her. >> what shane didn't know is that girl was the girlfriend of the president of the fraternity. >> trent did not like that one bit. got word to the sae president, and that's when shane was blackballed. >> so, at that point, shane's opportunity to be in that fraternity is pretty much over. >> the motives for murder are many and varied. but this seemed absurd. it was three years after that slight when trent was murdered in cold blood. could it really have festered so long? and if it had, if that was true, they had another problem. >> the more that we dug specifically into shane ragland, the more the likelihood that he would get word that he was becoming a suspect in this case. and if that happened, this anonymous witness was in real danger. >> evans had no doubt that shane would remember he told an ex-girlfriend about the murder. >> and what's gonna keep him from then going up and eliminating her like he did trent digiuro? >> so now, evans understood his mystery witness was trying to be brave, but was quite reasonably frightened. how would he ever convince her to take the ultimate risk? >> she was very hesitant to do it, and she was scared to death to confront him. >> coming up -- setting a trap. >> something has been bothering me. something that you told me a long time ago. i wish you never had. >> but who's going to get caught? >> let me ask you a question. you're not setting me up, are you? >> when "dateline" continues. 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" i'm andrea canning. it had been five years since trent digiuro's murder. the case was ice cold, but detectives had just been tipped off by a woman who said her ex- boyfriend, shane ragland, had killed trent as payback for having him blackballed from a fraternity. but the woman was insisting she remain anonymous. so, to prove their case, investigators would need to earn her trust. once again, keith morrison with "the motive. " >> detective evans knew he had to meet this mystery woman, a woman who was claiming she knew what happened to trent digiuro, but was too frightened to talk about it. then finally with attorney tom bullock playing gatekeeper, they made a deal to at least meet face to face. but any more than that? maybe not. >> it was like, "listen, don't get me involved in this. this guy's dangerous. so, until you get handcuffs on him, you can't involve me. " >> but evans knew, even if he did arrest the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her wouldn't be enough. i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well, i can't just put her on the stand. his attorney will come along and say, "she's full of it. " >> yeah, and in this particular case it's, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we're still in a situation where this has to come from him. >> him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did. otherwise, what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her, she'd have to wear a wire. >> she wasn't very happy with that obviously. >> i should think not. >> yeah. she asked me if i could spell anonymous. >> but, he said, she came around. >> she wanted to do what's right all along, she just would like to do that without getting herself killed doing it. >> but she would only proceed on one condition. >> i had to prove why she was gonna be safe. i had to prove how we were gonna do this. it wasn't enough for me to say, "oh, don't worry. he won't have a gun. we'll look for bulges. " >> so, they came up with a plan. gave her a cover story to protect her, a fictitious job, a phony address. and then, casually, she resumed contact with shane, a few emails. a little flirty at times, on both ends -- >> people sometimes hear from their exes, right? i mean, that happens. >> and finally, the sting. she told shane she'd be passing through the lexington airport on business, and he agreed to meet her. it was in this airport lounge, surrounded by undercover cops and fbi and behind security to be sure shane wasn't armed. >> so what's been happening? >> worked about two years in louisville. >> they reminisced for an hour or so. >> tell me the good things that you remember about our relationship. >> i remember you used to love your disco music and ask me to dance with ya. >> and then she went for it. >> something's been bothering me. something that you told me a long time ago, and i wish you never had. and i need to know how you feel about it now, so i can understand what kind of person you are now. >> at that point he paused, and it's like he knew exactly what she was talking about. >> i regret it. >> you do now? >> of course, i do. >> you didn't before. and you know, the thing about it is not knowing trent. that was his name, wasn't it? trent? not knowing him, i just kind of ignored it all this time. >> saying trent's name was deliberate. >> we had talked to her about that. let's make sure we know what you're talking about when we play this for a jury later. >> and she brought up what appeared to be the motive, that fraternity blackballing. >> how could you be mad -- that mad at somebody to do that? over something so [bleep] stupid. do you ever think of it? >> of course i do. you're making me uncomfortable now just talking about it. >> i'm sorry, but this is something i have to get off my chest, because i have to live with it too, you know? i mean, do you plan on ever telling anybody about what you did? >> no. i mean, of course not. >> was he sensing something? the cops, knowing they didn't quite have what they needed, not yet, held their breath and listened. >> let me ask you a question, you're not setting me up, are you? >> i've never told anybody. >> i know. i'm just -- i'm getting this weird vibe. >> i've never told anybody. >> swear to me that you're not setting me up, because i'm scared to death right now. >> he said, "are you setting me up? " and that's when things got really scary. >> but she kept her cool. >> ok, then we'll stop talking about it. how's that? >> and they did. and then, about ten minutes later, shane came back with just what the detectives needed to hear. >> to answer to your question, i am very, very remorseful. very. i can't tell you. >> you're so stupid. >> i know. i was angry at him. i made the wrong decision. there is nothing you can do, you know. >> she made him so confident and comfortable that he came back to the subject and left us with what we really needed at that point. it came out of his own mouth. >> they picked him up the next day. took him downtown, asked him was it true what an old girlfriend was telling them? >> so, if she tells us you sat there and you talked about the murder, she's a liar, basically? because it never happened. >> she's just making that up to -- think she's mad at you? >> 100%. absolutely, that -- there was absolutely nothing said. >> shane denied it all. denied knowing trent. didn't even know where he lived. denied talking about trent with her. >> i never mentioned his name once and she never mentioned his name once. she didn't -- nothing about that. nothing about the murder. >> nothing about the murder or anything? >> so then, his inquisitors fetched the airport recording. >> i'm gonna to play something here for you and i want you to listen to it, okay? >> something's been bothering me, something that you told me a long time ago. i wish you never had. >> well, you're telling me that you didn't talk about trent. that's not the truth, is it? >> she may have said trent, but we were talking about stuff. but i didn't hear her say trent. i didn't talk about trent. i swear to you guys, i did not do this. >> but his denials were to no avail. shane ragland was charged with murder. bail was set. and shane's wealthy father paid it, a million dollars cash. so, shane was free pending so shane was free pending trial, which was a very big problem for the ex-girlfriend who'd turned him in. police moved her to a secure location and kept an eye on her. and then strange things started happening. >> we got information from our state police intelligence section that there was a hit out on this girl. there were phone calls to her friends that would ask, "have you seen her? do you know where she is these days, " obviously trying to locate her. >> and with all that going on, she had to do precisely what she didn't want to do, go public, show herself and testify. and the world would know that her name was aimee lloyd. and that she was truly terrified. >> aimee goes public for the first time, facing her fears and shane. coming up -- >> he told me that he shot him. >> the defense hits back hard. >> if in fact, someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person and you continue a romantic relationship with them, that seems a bit odd. >> when "dateline" continues. 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" >> if there was any doubt how seriously police took perceived threats to aimee lloyd's security, this put it to rest. aimee, rushed into court by a s. w. a. t. team. but trent digiuro's dad mike knew that if she braved the danger and told her story -- >> i don't know how a jury could not convict him. >> but when it came for trial, then prosecutor luanna redcorn was all too aware she was alleging a very hard to believe motive. >> i think i was like everybody else, a little incredulous that somebody would let the fact that they'd been blackballed from a fraternity fester for years and culminate in killing the person they blamed on blackballing them. u,they had a more than just aimee. they'd found what they believed was the murder weapon, a 2.43 weatherby rifle at shane's mother's house. and at his father's place they found. 2.43-caliber bullets like these. an fbi expert said testing had linked those bullets to the fragments from the fatal bullet. the defense argued the tests were not reliable science. >> call your next witness. >> aimee lloyd. >> and now, nearly eight years after trent was killed, here was the one person who could tell the story. aimee lloyd finally revealed herself publicly. though because she remains frightened even now, we've obscured her image in this video recorded by the court. the prosecution's star witness talked about that night in a bar, and shane, according to her, straight out confessing to murder. >> he said something about, you know, he had -- if i remembered the football player who had been killed and told me his name, trent. he told me that he shot him. >> but prosecutor redcorn knew aimee's story had a weakness and so no choice but to confront it. >> you did not break off the relationship after he said this to you? >> no. >> you didn't go to the police or anything? >> no, i just -- i ignored it. >> just ignored what he had said to you? >> right. i forgot about it. i didn't wanna listen to it. i didn't wanna hear it. i didn't wanna believe it. >> why? because she was in love with him, she said. during aimee's testimony the prosecutor played the tape. the sting meeting at the airport. >> you're so stupid. >> i was angry at him. i made the wrong decision. >> that, said the prosecutor, clear as day was an admission that he did indeed commit the murder. how to defend against that? shane's father hired a formidable defense team. guthrie true was one of shane's lawyers. >> if in fact, someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person and you continued a romantic relationship with them, that seems a bit odd. >> when the defense cross- examined aimee, she knew it was coming. had to. an attack on her credibility. but could she have suspected how personal it would be? this from true's co-counsel when aimee said she went home with shane that night after he talked about killing someone. >> weren't you concerned about spending the night with somebody who had admitted to you that he had killed someone else? >> i blocked it from my mind. i didn't want to -- i didn't want to hear that. >> and then a kind of nervous embarrassment filled the courtroom. the defense had gotten access to aimee's very personal, very explicit diary and confronted her with her entries, one by x- rated one. >> we are trying to challenge the credibility of the prosecution's case, and sometimes that gets uncomfortable. >> this is what aimee wrote the day after she said shane confessed to her to murder. >> april the 30th, the very next day, you make a notation, "made love in afternoon. great day. " >> we have, for the sake of decency, left out the most explicit entries made public by the defense that day. >> and then, may the 3rd was the date that you recorded you took a bath together and made love. right? >> yes. >> and then it was on may the 7th, you noted, "great love. decided i would move in with him in july. perfect. " >> yes. >> so, this man who had told you that he had killed someone, you made the decision that you were going to move in with him come july? >> yes. >> so, was her credibility harmed? there was still, after all, that incriminating airport recording. or was it incriminating? >> you never did ask him, though, if he had shot and killed trent, did you? >> why would i when he had already told me? and if i said to him, "did you kill trent, " when he already knew he told me five years ago, he would have -- he would have known that i was -- that i was there in fact to -- >> to set him up? >> to get him to admit it. >> hadn't you rehearsed that? >> rehearsed what? >> with detective evans and others. don't give him an opportunity to deny that he had shot trent. >> no. >> had the defense planted a seed of reasonable doubt? maybe. the jury adjourned to think about it. and trent's friends waited. >> i've never been so terrified and so scared in my life. >> uh-huh. your heart's going 100 mile as an hour. >> a hundred miles an hour. >> and five hours later -- >> we the jury find the defendant guilty of intentional murder. >> guilty of intentional murder. the sentence, 30 years. >> to know that he was guilty, know that this guy who's sitting there smug and non- remorseful is guilty and found guilty. and boom, you feel good about that. >> mike digiuro thought it was done. >> okay, this is it. he's going to jail. it's over. >> and aimee? she had vanished. >> aimee was afraid of shane ragland. and we told her that if she testified, we would do what we could to let her have a new identity. and law enforcement helped her get a new identity. >> and that new identity would be a problem. >> you talk about something that just blows you away. i mean, i couldn't even grasp that. >> because this case wasn't over. not even close. >> coming up -- a stunning reversal. >> they know i'm innocent. >> will there ever be justice for trent? >> it's "oh, wow. here we go all over again. 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" >> it was early spring in kentucky when justice was done for the murder of trent digiuro. thanks, his friends knew, to a woman who faced up to fear and told her story. >> we've never met aimee and i'm eternally grateful-- >> absolutely. >> -- to aimee for everything that she's done for not only trent and his family, but for us. >> except there was an appeal. of course there was. standard procedure. but what happened was not standard at all. a court reversed the jury's decision. >> any comment, shane? >> and shane ragland went home on a million dollars bail, paid by his dad, to wait for a whole new trial. >> it's been a long time, shane. >> how does it feel to be outside, going home with your father right now? >> i don't really look at it like that. i look at the long-term goal of fighting a case against me that's fake, that's false. and i know i'm innocent. i don't worry about my feelings, creature comforts. >> why was the verdict thrown out? it had nothing to do with aimee lloyd or her explosive testimony or the sting tape recorded at the airport. all that was fine. so what was the issue? the bullet that killed trent. an fbi expert had linked the fragments of that bullet found during the autopsy to bullets like these that were found in shane's father's house. but after shane's conviction the fbi realized the test it used was, in fact, bad science and stopped using it. >> these are things that we have been arguing for years, frankly, shouldn't have been admitted. >> and the court agreed with the defense. >> when this reversal happened, what was that like? >> well, it was a blow. i mean, it was a real blow. >> it's kind of an irony. isn't it? it was one of the smaller pieces of evidence. >> in my mind, yes. >> when what you thought was done gets undone, what does it do to you? >> it's, "oh, wow, here we go all over again. we've gotta go through this yet another time. " and the "yet another time" we realized pretty quickly was gonna be without some key evidence. aimee lloyd wasn't coming back. >> no, aimee lloyd was not going to testify a second time. that was the deal she made. testify once then disappear. >> there was no way to bring her back, because once someone has that level of cover you can't undo it, bring them back. >> and then do it again. >> and then do it again. >> remain seated. come to order. >> no option but to make a deal. shane got to plead guilty to second-degree manslaughter. >> and did you, in fact, commit the crime that you are pleading guilty to? >> yes, i did. >> which meant that at least he now admitted to firing that fatal shot. >> i thought, "well, a plea bargain. you know, spends another ten years in jail. i'm not too bad with that. " >> oh, but it wasn't ten more years. wasn't any more years. he got the time he'd already served. five years, plus just 3 days of house arrest. >> three more days? >> three more days. he walked out of the courtroom, went home. and that really chapped my ass. >> it did help a little, said mike digiuro, when he successfully sued shane in civil court for wrongful death. the jury awarded him $63 million, later reduced to 33 million. no matter, said mike. he hasn't received a penny, doesn't expect to. but money was never the point. >> he's never really accepted responsibility for what he did. >> shane went on with his life. and then a few years later he was involved in a serious car accident. he uses a wheelchair now, and was back in court on an unrelated case. and what about aimee, if that's even her name now? how's she doing now? >> she's living a new life. >> what's she do? you wanna tell me anything? anything at all? >> i'm sorry, but i'm not going to be able to tell you anything about her current life. >> at all. >> at all. >> as for mike, he had a choice, he knew. he could sink into bitterness or -- so where do you put your frustrations over this? >> well, what has come from all this is we consider a very positive thing. >> the trent digiuro foundation has awarded nearly a hundred scholarships to walk-on football players and others, at the university of kentucky and at local high schools. young people with determination and personal courage just like trent. you'll never make any sense of his death, but you can make sense of his life. >> we can make sense of what we've done to commemorate trent, to remember trent. and giving these young folks an opportunity that trent won't have. >> and remarkably, trent's friends remain exceedingly close, even 25 years after that shot in the dark. they feel like family now? >> well, they are family. i think it says so much about what trent meant to these kids, young adults now, and what they mean to us. it's been a blessing to us. >> they all get together and laugh and tell stories and imagine. >> who would he have become as an adult? gosh, i'm sure he would've been magnificent, just as he was as a teenager. i'm kind of that i don't get to, you know, meet his wife or meet his kids or, you know -- >> share all at the adult things we've had an opportunity to share with each other. but i think when i get rid of those, like, base feelings, the underlying feeling is just of gratitude that he was in my life, even for a brief moment in time. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. ♪ ♪ ♪ it's sad morning to you. welcome to morning joe: weekend. let's jump into some of the most important conversations we had with key news makers this week. we begin with the supreme court agreeing to consider former president trump's claim of presidential immuni

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nobody knows where the bullet comes from. >> nothing's making it any easier. >> if you don't have a motive, it's hard to know which direction to go. >> we were just never going to know. >> but someone knew. >> she called me and she said, "i think i know something about a murder. " >> we never could find out why trent was killed because it was something this weird. >> she became the key. >> would she also become the next victim? >> she was scared to death to confront him. >> let me ask you a question, you're not setting me up, are you? >> she knew what he was capable of. >> and thus she was terrified. >> and thus she was terrified. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello and welcome to "dateline. " trent digiuro was a force on the football field, popular and fiercely loyal to his wide circle of friends. then late one night, the charming athlete was shot dead. his killer left few clues, and the case sat cold until someone came forward with a stunning secret. what police asked the tipster to do next would make her a target. how much would she risk to right a wrong? here's keith morrison with "the motive. " ♪ ♪ ♪ >> her heart was on fire. lost to her. the canned music, the hum of other voices in the bar. there was only him. they were in the deep end now. and as lovers in the flush of new commitment sometimes do, they confessed their sins of the abandoned past. the worst things they'd ever done. words, just words. best forgotten until they could no longer be ignored. lexington, kentucky. one year before that night in the bar. a house where students lived. and the music and laughter and chatter of a birthday party swelled and ebbed and drifted in and out of the evening air. >> it wasn't a huge party. it was just a low-key party with some good friends. >> they were about to be seniors, the young men who'd rented the place, who'd hosted the party. >> we had a group of guys, four guys that got along extremely well. >> they were big men on campus. they played football. the university of kentucky's beloved wildcats. antonio o'ferral was a quarterback. >> in lexington, kentucky if you play for the cats, you're pretty much a well-known entity. >> the birthday boy, 21 years old, was a true rarity, a wildcats walk-on. he had no scholarship, no invitation, he'd just showed up and tried out for the team. and over three years of hard work he had earned a starting position. >> here we go! >> trent digiuro, gentle giant. >> you know, everybody called him a big teddy bear. he was the great protector of all of our friends. >> the party was sweet, informal. friends snapped pictures and evening dawdled into night. it was after midnight when the party wound down. >> i think we turned in somewhere between 12:30, 1:00. >> antonio and his girlfriend went to bed. outside, trent and some of the others settled under the light on the front porch. out there, beyond the streetlights, was impenetrable dark. inside -- >> we were already in a faint sleep, and we heard a loud bang. >> one of them must have slammed the screen door. but no. >> well, within ten seconds you started to hear the chaos outside. the screaming, the yelling, the crying. >> and there was trent. slumped to one side in his chair under the light. >> trent was bleeding out of his ears and his eyes and his nose and his mouth. and it was a horrific scene. >> horrific and confusing. that loud bang had been a gunshot. but from where? somewhere out there in the dark? had someone intentionally fired a gun at their gentle giant, their teddy bear? in their panic and distress, they did not understand. how could they? the nature of the mystery launched here. or who, in a haze of love, may have learned the answer. >> it was just so senseless. once you found out why, it was even worse. >> just who was trent digiuro, the target? >> we all started hanging out from first grade, 6 years old. it's pretty neat. >> peyton turner and sharalea bollinger were his life long friends. >> if you were his friend, you were his friend and that's all that mattered. >> there wasn't a group for him. there was no group. everybody got treated just the same. >> trent was in fourth grade when he started playing football in his hometown of goshen, kentucky, just outside louisville. by high school he was captain of the team, had lots of friends. so popular, trent was homecoming king, with sharalea his queen. >> it was pretty special. i mean, just to -- >> oh my gosh, yeah. >> to be part of that and to be voted as that, especially with trent. >> when it came time for college, trent set his sights high. he turned down football scholarships to smaller schools. >> at one point he says, you know what, i just got to know if i can play in the bigtime. in a division i school. >> mike digiuro is trent's dad. >> so he walked onto university of kentucky, which is in the southeast conference, which is about as big as they come. >> sure. >> and he worked real hard to get to where he was. >> and trent's teammates saw that hard work. >> trent had the ability to perform. so, while he might have been a walk-on, his performance allowed him to endear himself to others very quickly. >> that july, as trent practiced football and prepared for his senior year, his parents went to lexington to see him and to talk about his future. >> he was trying to decide what he wanted to do with his life. he was talking about maybe going to law school or business school. >> did he talk about his birthday celebration? >> we knew he was gonna have some kind of a thing and that he was supposed to come home that next day to celebrate his birthday with us, and he never made it. >> no. and a creeping fear washed over the university of kentucky football team. was a killer targeting them? and if so, who would be next? >> coming up -- >> i couldn't even believe it. i couldn't understand it. who would murder somebody so wonderful? >> the investigation begins. >> everyone talked. but they didn't see anything. >> and was there more terror to come? >> we were so nervous driving down the street at practice thinking that there might be someone in the woods who wanted to take you out. >> when "dateline" continues. 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" >> did they talk? >> everyone talked. but with each and every person that i talked to, they didn't see anything. >> 80 miles away, at 5:00 a. m, the digiuros'phone rang. >> it's numbing. it's hard to imagine the feeling. >> suddenly your life doesn't make sense anymore. >> it absolutely stops and pivots in an instant. and then it was kinda, you know, "now what? " >> and soon everybody knew. >> i couldn't even believe it, couldn't understand it. who would murder somebody so wonderful? >> it was about then that the first really useful evidence came back from the medical examiner. bullet fragments were recovered in the autopsy, and the ballistics showed it wasn't a handgun at all that killed trent. it was a rifle, which turned detective evan's first theory upside down. >> well, the theory about walking up the side of the house and firing a shot -- >> that goes out the window. >> that's probably out the window. a rifle's not designed for a close-range shot. >> officers canvassed the neighborhood. a woman who lived across the street said she awoke to a loud noise and it sounded like it was right outside her house. >> so based on that, we actually took one of our marksmen from the police department and ask him, "could this shot be made from here, from this angle? " and we literally re-enacted that possibility. >> did it make sense, the location you found? >> it did make sense. we didn't eliminate the possibility that something else could occur. but this looked pretty strong to us. >> so, a working theory, that trent was shot from across the street. ballistics suggested it was a rifle with a particular and uncommon type of barrel. but who owned it? and why did he or she shoot trent? no idea. the football team entered a world of dread. was some hater targeting the team? was one of them next? nothing happened. >> but days and weeks and months went by and nothing happened. and over time the fear eroded, but the investigation went nowhere. did you ever get to the place where you thought, "we'll just have to live with this uncertainty for the rest of our lives? " >> i would say four years into it, it's like doesn't make any difference. >> yeah, not gonna bring him back. >> it is not gonna bring trent back. but still it's "why did this happen? " >> you're four years in, five years in, and really no closer to solving it. >> your first case and it -- >> day one. that will make you doubt yourself. >> and then one day a particular woman happened to see an anniversary story about the unsolved murder of the football player back in kentucky. a woman who'd once h sat in a b in a fog of love. and who now was quite terrified. >> a break in the case from out of the blue. an ex-lover reveals all, including a motive for murder almost too absurd to believe. coming up -- >> this could be the reason that we never could find out why trent was killed, is because it was something this weird. >> when "dateline" continues. " her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we got him under a new plan. but then they unexpectedly unraveled their "price lock" guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the "un-carrier". you sing about "price lock" on those commercials. 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" >> like, let's get this out of the way. >> let's just get to it, you know, that sort of point in the relationship where you say, let me hear the worst. >> and her boyfriend said, "i killed trent digiuro. " >> and at first she sort of sloughed it off, you know? "eh, sure you did. " >> didn't believe him? >> no, of course not. but then he started describing it. you know, exactly how he did it. >> but she still didn't want to believe it. after all, she'd fallen in love with the guy. so she said she kind of buried it. stayed with him for another year. but now, years later and single again, she had seen a story in the newspaper about the fifth anniversary of trent's murder, in which trent's dad was quoted, "somebody knows what happened. " >> she started really thinking about it, and it touched her. >> but she was so frightened of him, she said. she was determined to remain anonymous. >> they know each other intimately. she knows how he would react to certain situations. >> yep. >> and she was terrified. >> he certainly would've remembered his conversations with her. >> if you told someone that you committed a murder, you would certainly remember having told them that. >> yes. >> so, tom bullock went to detective evans. >> we agreed that whatever information i would give him would be anonymous, because for all we know, the whole thing could've been hogwash. >> that's sort of tricky, isn't it? i mean, when you've got somebody making an accusation, you have to be able to talk to that person. >> well, yeah. but at that point, beggars can't be choosers. >> so he gave you a name. >> so he gave me a name. he gave me the name of shane ragland. >> shane ragland. the woman's ex-boyfriend. but who was he? didn't take long to find out. shane was the son of a wealthy businessman. just so happened, shane attended the university of kentucky at the very same time as trent digiuro. but after college, he didn't do so well. he ran up at least a dozen convictions, drug charges, multiple duis, and so on. so detective evans went back to attorney bullock. >> is there any more? can you get me any more? and ultimately he started talking about a motive. >> and that's when the whole story took a turn into "the twilight zone. " >> he told me that it was concerning shane ragland being blackballed from a fraternity. >> what'd you think when you heard that? >> that's a stupid reason to kill somebody. >> the fraternity in question was sigma alpha epsilon, sae. detective evans looked through sae's records, and there it was, a pledge list with shane's name crossed off. >> and then it hit. this could be the reason that we never could find out why trent was killed, is because it was something this weird. >> evans went to one of trent's closest friends and asked, had he heard of this guy shane ragland? >> and he said, "shane ragland. " and then i could just sort of see it at that point on his face, you know? and i let him tell the story. >> a story about an unpleasant little incident. shane was among the freshmen pledging the sae fraternity. and one day, as they were getting to know the campus -- >> they went into trent's dorm and trent was there and on the wall was a calendar of some sorority girls. >> when shane saw that calendar, right away he pointed to one of the girls'pictures and he bragged that he'd had sex with her. >> what shane didn't know is that girl was the girlfriend of the president of the fraternity. >> trent did not like that one bit. got word to the sae president, and that's when shane was blackballed. >> so, at that point, shane's opportunity to be in that fraternity is pretty much over. >> the motives for murder are many and varied. but this seemed absurd. it was three years after that slight when trent was murdered in cold blood. could it really have festered so long? and if it had, if that was true, they had another problem. >> the more that we dug specifically into shane ragland, the more the likelihood that he would get word that he was becoming a suspect in this case. and if that happened, this anonymous witness was in real danger. >> evans had no doubt that shane would remember he told an ex-girlfriend about the murder. >> and what's gonna keep him from then going up and eliminating her like he did trent digiuro? >> so now, evans understood his mystery witness was trying to be brave, but was quite reasonably frightened. how would he ever convince her to take the ultimate risk? >> she was very hesitant to do it, and she was scared to death to confront him. >> coming up -- setting a trap. >> something has been bothering me. something that you told me a long time ago. i wish you never had. >> but who's going to get caught? >> let me ask you a question. you're not setting me up, are you? >> when "dateline" continues. 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" i'm andrea canning. it had been five years since trent digiuro's murder. the case was ice cold, but detectives had just been tipped off by a woman who said her ex- boyfriend, shane ragland, had killed trent as payback for having him blackballed from a fraternity. but the woman was insisting she remain anonymous. so, to prove their case, investigators would need to earn her trust. once again, keith morrison with "the motive. " >> detective evans knew he had to meet this mystery woman, a woman who was claiming she knew what happened to trent digiuro, but was too frightened to talk about it. then finally with attorney tom bullock playing gatekeeper, they made a deal to at least meet face to face. but any more than that? maybe not. >> it was like, "listen, don't get me involved in this. this guy's dangerous. so, until you get handcuffs on him, you can't involve me. " >> but evans knew, even if he did arrest the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her wouldn't be enough. i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well, i can't just put her on the stand. his attorney will come along and say, "she's full of it. " >> yeah, and in this particular case it's, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we're still in a situation where this has to come from him. >> him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did. otherwise, what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her, she'd have to wear a wire. >> she wasn't very happy with that obviously. >> i should think not. >> yeah. she asked me if i could spell anonymous. >> but, he said, she came around. >> she wanted to do what's right all along, she just would like to do that without getting herself killed doing it. >> but she would only proceed on one condition. >> i had to prove why she was gonna be safe. i had to prove how we were gonna do this. it wasn't enough for me to say, "oh, don't worry. he won't have a gun. we'll look for bulges. " >> so, they came up with a plan. gave her a cover story to protect her, a fictitious job, a phony address. and then, casually, she resumed contact with shane, a few emails. a little flirty at times, on both ends -- >> people sometimes hear from their exes, right? i mean, that happens. >> and finally, the sting. she told shane she'd be passing through the lexington airport on business, and he agreed to meet her. it was in this airport lounge, surrounded by undercover cops and fbi and behind security to be sure shane wasn't armed. >> so what's been happening? >> worked about two years in louisville. >> they reminisced for an hour or so. >> tell me the good things that you remember about our relationship. >> i remember you used to love your disco music and ask me to dance with ya. >> and then she went for it. >> something's been bothering me. something that you told me a long time ago, and i wish you never had. and i need to know how you feel about it now, so i can understand what kind of person you are now. >> at that point he paused, and it's like he knew exactly what she was talking about. >> i regret it. >> you do now? >> of course, i do. >> you didn't before. and you know, the thing about it is not knowing trent. that was his name, wasn't it? trent? not knowing him, i just kind of ignored it all this time. >> saying trent's name was deliberate. >> we had talked to her about that. let's make sure we know what you're talking about when we play this for a jury later. >> and she brought up what appeared to be the motive, that fraternity blackballing. >> how could you be mad -- that mad at somebody to do that? over something so [bleep] stupid. do you ever think of it? >> of course i do. you're making me uncomfortable now just talking about it. >> i'm sorry, but this is something i have to get off my chest, because i have to live with it too, you know? i mean, do you plan on ever telling anybody about what you did? >> no. i mean, of course not. >> was he sensing something? the cops, knowing they didn't quite have what they needed, not yet, held their breath and listened. >> let me ask you a question, you're not setting me up, are you? >> i've never told anybody. >> i know. i'm just -- i'm getting this weird vibe. >> i've never told anybody. >> swear to me that you're not setting me up, because i'm scared to death right now. >> he said, "are you setting me up? " and that's when things got really scary. >> but she kept her cool. >> ok, then we'll stop talking about it. how's that? >> and they did. and then, about ten minutes later, shane came back with just what the detectives needed to hear. >> to answer to your question, i am very, very remorseful. very. i can't tell you. >> you're so stupid. >> i know. i was angry at him. i made the wrong decision. there is nothing you can do, you know. >> she made him so confident and comfortable that he came back to the subject and left us with what we really needed at that point. it came out of his own mouth. >> they picked him up the next day. took him downtown, asked him was it true what an old girlfriend was telling them? >> so, if she tells us you sat there and you talked about the murder, she's a liar, basically? because it never happened. >> she's just making that up to -- think she's mad at you? >> 100%. absolutely, that -- there was absolutely nothing said. >> shane denied it all. denied knowing trent. didn't even know where he lived. denied talking about trent with her. >> i never mentioned his name once and she never mentioned his name once. she didn't -- nothing about that. nothing about the murder. >> nothing about the murder or anything? >> so then, his inquisitors fetched the airport recording. >> i'm gonna to play something here for you and i want you to listen to it, okay? >> something's been bothering me, something that you told me a long time ago. i wish you never had. >> well, you're telling me that you didn't talk about trent. that's not the truth, is it? >> she may have said trent, but we were talking about stuff. but i didn't hear her say trent. i didn't talk about trent. i swear to you guys, i did not do this. >> but his denials were to no avail. shane ragland was charged with murder. bail was set. and shane's wealthy father paid it, a million dollars cash. so, shane was free pending so shane was free pending trial, which was a very big problem for the ex-girlfriend who'd turned him in. police moved her to a secure location and kept an eye on her. and then strange things started happening. >> we got information from our state police intelligence section that there was a hit out on this girl. there were phone calls to her friends that would ask, "have you seen her? do you know where she is these days, " obviously trying to locate her. >> and with all that going on, she had to do precisely what she didn't want to do, go public, show herself and testify. and the world would know that her name was aimee lloyd. and that she was truly terrified. >> aimee goes public for the first time, facing her fears and shane. coming up -- >> he told me that he shot him. >> the defense hits back hard. >> if in fact, someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person and you continue a romantic relationship with them, that seems a bit odd. >> when "dateline" continues. 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" >> if there was any doubt how seriously police took perceived threats to aimee lloyd's security, this put it to rest. aimee, rushed into court by a s. w. a. t. team. but trent digiuro's dad mike knew that if she braved the danger and told her story -- >> i don't know how a jury could not convict him. >> but when it came for trial, then prosecutor luanna redcorn was all too aware she was alleging a very hard to believe motive. >> i think i was like everybody else, a little incredulous that somebody would let the fact that they'd been blackballed from a fraternity fester for years and culminate in killing the person they blamed on blackballing them. u,they had a more than just aimee. they'd found what they believed was the murder weapon, a 2.43 weatherby rifle at shane's mother's house. and at his father's place they found. 2.43-caliber bullets like these. an fbi expert said testing had linked those bullets to the fragments from the fatal bullet. the defense argued the tests were not reliable science. >> call your next witness. >> aimee lloyd. >> and now, nearly eight years after trent was killed, here was the one person who could tell the story. aimee lloyd finally revealed herself publicly. though because she remains frightened even now, we've obscured her image in this video recorded by the court. the prosecution's star witness talked about that night in a bar, and shane, according to her, straight out confessing to murder. >> he said something about, you know, he had -- if i remembered the football player who had been killed and told me his name, trent. he told me that he shot him. >> but prosecutor redcorn knew aimee's story had a weakness and so no choice but to confront it. >> you did not break off the relationship after he said this to you? >> no. >> you didn't go to the police or anything? >> no, i just -- i ignored it. >> just ignored what he had said to you? >> right. i forgot about it. i didn't wanna listen to it. i didn't wanna hear it. i didn't wanna believe it. >> why? because she was in love with him, she said. during aimee's testimony the prosecutor played the tape. the sting meeting at the airport. >> you're so stupid. >> i was angry at him. i made the wrong decision. >> that, said the prosecutor, clear as day was an admission that he did indeed commit the murder. how to defend against that? shane's father hired a formidable defense team. guthrie true was one of shane's lawyers. >> if in fact, someone had actually told you they had engaged in a killing of another person and you continued a romantic relationship with them, that seems a bit odd. >> when the defense cross- examined aimee, she knew it was coming. had to. an attack on her credibility. but could she have suspected how personal it would be? this from true's co-counsel when aimee said she went home with shane that night after he talked about killing someone. >> weren't you concerned about spending the night with somebody who had admitted to you that he had killed someone else? >> i blocked it from my mind. i didn't want to -- i didn't want to hear that. >> and then a kind of nervous embarrassment filled the courtroom. the defense had gotten access to aimee's very personal, very explicit diary and confronted her with her entries, one by x- rated one. >> we are trying to challenge the credibility of the prosecution's case, and sometimes that gets uncomfortable. >> this is what aimee wrote the day after she said shane confessed to her to murder. >> april the 30th, the very next day, you make a notation, "made love in afternoon. great day. " >> we have, for the sake of decency, left out the most explicit entries made public by the defense that day. >> and then, may the 3rd was the date that you recorded you took a bath together and made love. right? >> yes. >> and then it was on may the 7th, you noted, "great love. decided i would move in with him in july. perfect. " >> yes. >> so, this man who had told you that he had killed someone, you made the decision that you were going to move in with him come july? >> yes. >> so, was her credibility harmed? there was still, after all, that incriminating airport recording. or was it incriminating? >> you never did ask him, though, if he had shot and killed trent, did you? >> why would i when he had already told me? and if i said to him, "did you kill trent, " when he already knew he told me five years ago, he would have -- he would have known that i was -- that i was there in fact to -- >> to set him up? >> to get him to admit it. >> hadn't you rehearsed that? >> rehearsed what? >> with detective evans and others. don't give him an opportunity to deny that he had shot trent. >> no. >> had the defense planted a seed of reasonable doubt? maybe. the jury adjourned to think about it. and trent's friends waited. >> i've never been so terrified and so scared in my life. >> uh-huh. your heart's going 100 mile as an hour. >> a hundred miles an hour. >> and five hours later -- >> we the jury find the defendant guilty of intentional murder. >> guilty of intentional murder. the sentence, 30 years. >> to know that he was guilty, know that this guy who's sitting there smug and non- remorseful is guilty and found guilty. and boom, you feel good about that. >> mike digiuro thought it was done. >> okay, this is it. he's going to jail. it's over. >> and aimee? she had vanished. >> aimee was afraid of shane ragland. and we told her that if she testified, we would do what we could to let her have a new identity. and law enforcement helped her get a new identity. >> and that new identity would be a problem. >> you talk about something that just blows you away. i mean, i couldn't even grasp that. >> because this case wasn't over. not even close. >> coming up -- a stunning reversal. >> they know i'm innocent. >> will there ever be justice for trent? >> it's "oh, wow. here we go all over again. 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" >> it was early spring in kentucky when justice was done for the murder of trent digiuro. thanks, his friends knew, to a woman who faced up to fear and told her story. >> we've never met aimee and i'm eternally grateful-- >> absolutely. >> -- to aimee for everything that she's done for not only trent and his family, but for us. >> except there was an appeal. of course there was. standard procedure. but what happened was not standard at all. a court reversed the jury's decision. >> any comment, shane? >> and shane ragland went home on a million dollars bail, paid by his dad, to wait for a whole new trial. >> it's been a long time, shane. >> how does it feel to be outside, going home with your father right now? >> i don't really look at it like that. i look at the long-term goal of fighting a case against me that's fake, that's false. and i know i'm innocent. i don't worry about my feelings, creature comforts. >> why was the verdict thrown out? it had nothing to do with aimee lloyd or her explosive testimony or the sting tape recorded at the airport. all that was fine. so what was the issue? the bullet that killed trent. an fbi expert had linked the fragments of that bullet found during the autopsy to bullets like these that were found in shane's father's house. but after shane's conviction the fbi realized the test it used was, in fact, bad science and stopped using it. >> these are things that we have been arguing for years, frankly, shouldn't have been admitted. >> and the court agreed with the defense. >> when this reversal happened, what was that like? >> well, it was a blow. i mean, it was a real blow. >> it's kind of an irony. isn't it? it was one of the smaller pieces of evidence. >> in my mind, yes. >> when what you thought was done gets undone, what does it do to you? >> it's, "oh, wow, here we go all over again. we've gotta go through this yet another time. " and the "yet another time" we realized pretty quickly was gonna be without some key evidence. aimee lloyd wasn't coming back. >> no, aimee lloyd was not going to testify a second time. that was the deal she made. testify once then disappear. >> there was no way to bring her back, because once someone has that level of cover you can't undo it, bring them back. >> and then do it again. >> and then do it again. >> remain seated. come to order. >> no option but to make a deal. shane got to plead guilty to second-degree manslaughter. >> and did you, in fact, commit the crime that you are pleading guilty to? >> yes, i did. >> which meant that at least he now admitted to firing that fatal shot. >> i thought, "well, a plea bargain. you know, spends another ten years in jail. i'm not too bad with that. " >> oh, but it wasn't ten more years. wasn't any more years. he got the time he'd already served. five years, plus just 3 days of house arrest. >> three more days? >> three more days. he walked out of the courtroom, went home. and that really chapped my ass. >> it did help a little, said mike digiuro, when he successfully sued shane in civil court for wrongful death. the jury awarded him $63 million, later reduced to 33 million. no matter, said mike. he hasn't received a penny, doesn't expect to. but money was never the point. >> he's never really accepted responsibility for what he did. >> shane went on with his life. and then a few years later he was involved in a serious car accident. he uses a wheelchair now, and was back in court on an unrelated case. and what about aimee, if that's even her name now? how's she doing now? >> she's living a new life. >> what's she do? you wanna tell me anything? anything at all? >> i'm sorry, but i'm not going to be able to tell you anything about her current life. >> at all. >> at all. >> as for mike, he had a choice, he knew. he could sink into bitterness or -- so where do you put your frustrations over this? >> well, what has come from all this is we consider a very positive thing. >> the trent digiuro foundation has awarded nearly a hundred scholarships to walk-on football players and others, at the university of kentucky and at local high schools. young people with determination and personal courage just like trent. you'll never make any sense of his death, but you can make sense of his life. >> we can make sense of what we've done to commemorate trent, to remember trent. and giving these young folks an opportunity that trent won't have. >> and remarkably, trent's friends remain exceedingly close, even 25 years after that shot in the dark. they feel like family now? >> well, they are family. i think it says so much about what trent meant to these kids, young adults now, and what they mean to us. it's been a blessing to us. >> they all get together and laugh and tell stories and imagine. >> who would he have become as an adult? gosh, i'm sure he would've been magnificent, just as he was as a teenager. i'm kind of that i don't get to, you know, meet his wife or meet his kids or, you know -- >> share all at the adult things we've had an opportunity to share with each other. but i think when i get rid of those, like, base feelings, the underlying feeling is just of gratitude that he was in my life, even for a brief moment in time. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. ♪ ♪ ♪ it's sad morning to you. welcome to morning joe: weekend. let's jump into some of the most important conversations we had with key news makers this week. we begin with the supreme court agreeing to consider former president trump's claim of presidential immuni

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