all here for -- >> that's an awesome show. >> yes, all here for different reasons, and we can't wait to get to it. >> i can't -- go, start it. >> thank you, alex, thank you. well it looks like a majority of americans want the truth, and that is why cassidy hutchinson's book, enough, sold out almost immediately after it was published and that is why liz cheney's book, oath and honor, is now sold out. if you look for a online, you'll get the message, temporally out stop. the publishers of trying to rush a new printing of the cheney book, so that it could be together along with cassidy obsesses book for everyone on your holiday gift list, who wasn't at the truth. cassidy hutchinson's book of course available now that the publisher has -- but here is a tip when books sell out, as both of these books did, the audio book never sells out, because the audio book is available digitally and playable on your phone, where i have all of my audiobooks. before speaker pelosi leads off our discussion tonight, let's listen to liz cheney's audiobook, describing a conversation that she had with the republican leader of the house of representatives, kevin mccarthy, at six pm, on january six, when the capitol police were finally driving the trump mob out of the capitol, and getting the building under control. >> sometime around six, i finally connected with kevin mccarthy by phone. i stepped back into the anti room behind the dais. kevin told me the plan is to go back into session as soon as it was safe. he said he would give a speech, quote about america. he said he would condemn the violence, talk about how terrible the day had been, and urge us all to come together, not as republicans or as democrats, but as americans. he said he did not plan to move forward with the objections. in that moment, i sounded like we were on the same page. i hung up with mccarthy and walk back out into the committee room. kevin's counsel, but can a car, was sitting in one of the chairs on the dais. i just talk to kevin, i told her. he says he is going to speak when we first come back into session, condemned the attack and urge us all to move forward in a unified way for the good at the country. he is going to talk about america and how we have to move beyond partisanship now. he is not going to keep objecting. makayla looked at me and said, mr. jordan just told me that he just got off the phone with kevin, and kevin told him the opposite. jordan says that kevin will carry on with the rejections. that can be right, i thought. there is no way that any leader would let these objections go on in the wake of the violent assault on the capitol. the idea was so unimaginable, and that i assumed that jordan was lying. i was wrong. it turned out that kevin was lying. >> six months later, liz cheney received the phone call that will give her a place of honor in future is their books. >> on the morning of july 1st, 2021, terry mccullough, speaker nancy pelosi's chief of staff, called my chief of staff, kara hern, to say that the speaker would like to call me. i was with my father at his doctor's appointment, when the speaker reached me. i stepped into an empty office to take the call. hello, liz? hi, madam speaker. please call me nancy, she said. she began by thanking me for my patriotism. something she would do many times over the coming months. this was my third term in congress, but i hardly knew nancy pelosi. we stood at opposite ends of the political spectrum, with very sharp policy differences. speaker pelosi moved on with the purpose of the call. the previous day, the house of representatives had approved legislation establishing the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. she told me she wanted a committee to begin work right away and had asked congressman bennie thompson of mississippi to be her chairwoman. he walked to the illicit the other members that she intended to ask to join the committee, and then she asked if i would be willing to serve as well. i would be honored to do so, i told her. >> hours after that call, liz cheney was at a conference table in speaker pelosi's office for the first gathering of the january six committee. all for agreeing to serve on the committee. she then turned the floor over to chairman thompson, who briefed us on plans for hiring staff and beginning to schedule our work. two things struck me as i watched jamie raskin make notes. first, i had sat in the bishop meetings with kevin mccarthy for more than two years, and not once had i seen him outline the substance of a press statement, or anything else, to anyone. in our republican meetings, it was the other way around, kevin relied on notes prepared by the staff and even the smaller gatherings. he called on staffers to explain anything that required any level of detail. second, i could not shake the feeling of being a visitor from another planet. it's hard to overstate the extent to which democrats and republicans inhabit different worlds in congress. >> and joining our discussion now is speaker nancy pelosi, thank you very much for joining us tonight. you know, as i read this book, and i saw that invitation to history, that you extended to liz cheney. i have been wondering how heavy did that telephone feel in your hand during that important call to make that a bipartisan committee? >> it was very important for it to be bipartisan. part of the conversation at that table later that liz referenced, i said, i want this to be your product, and i want it to be bipartisan. unless you need my help, your make your decisions, and that is what she thought it was another planet like, like we were on another planet from the republicans. but it was really important for us to have as much bipartisanship as possible. isn't liz cheney just a remarkable, patriotic, courageous american? i am so proud of the work that she did, as if i should be presumptuous to be proud of her work, but we all should be, because she made -- is making such a valuable contribution. >> well, she insists in the book that that contribution would not have been as important, were it not for your involvement in the work at that committee. let's listen to more of what she had to say about you in this book. >> at the heart of all of this would be my working relationship with nancy pelosi. she did not try to micro manage the work of the january six committee, but she was there whenever we needed her. over the next 18 months, every time i went to her with a concern, a proposed approach or a request that she intervene with democrats to help guide things in the right direction, she backed me up, every time. a relationship that had been unimaginable just a few months earlier would now become indispensable. >> you were the indispensable glue of that committee. >> well, i appreciate you saying that. the indispensable glue for all of us was the oath we take to our constitution, we make to our flag, the pride we take in our country. that was our coming around, and that was very unifying. >> she repeatedly goes into detail about situations where some of the house lawyers thought that maybe the committee should not pursue hard, go to subpoenas, and liz cheney wanted to push harder. she wanted to go to subpoenas, and every time, you backed up liz cheney's perspective on, this she is so impressed repeatedly in this book, which is how tough you want to do committee to be. >> well, we had a job to do. we had a narrative to present to the american people about what had happened at that time. and, again, as you talked earlier about, liz's conversation with kevin, one of the saddest things about january six, it was terrible, i'll never forgive them for the trauma that they caused many at the young staffers on capitol hill, many at the interns, and people there, idealistic, go there from a different perspective politically but all patriotically. and the trauma that they caused them. but what is really the worst part of it is that after all was said and done, after all was said and done, and we were determined to go back to the floor, and mitch mcconnell -- chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell and i were determined to go back to the floor. people said, you should do this in the auditorium or he should do it tomorrow. i said, or going today. we're going into our respective chambers, going to show the world that we are there, we are in the congress, the capitol of the united states. the sad part was that after all of, that the blood, the sweat and tears, the coup, the fear, the violence, overwhelmingly, the republicans voted not to support the work of the electoral college. they voted against democracy. that was very sad, but, again, liz was a champion, so courageous, so impressed by her, and her ideas were great, and they were consistent with -- many attempt came to some at the same conclusions about where our strongest arguments would be, but she was really quite the either of the committee, and benny thompson, he was remarkable, as well. >> this cheney records herself in the book as being surprised that kevin mccarthy was lying to her on january six. kevin mccarthy, a member of your california congressional delegation, somebody that you're familiar with, has now decided to give up and leave the congress. what will kevin mccarthy's congressional legacy be? >> let me say this, lawrence, with all due respect to you, your program and your audience, i am not here to talk about him. what we have to do is talk about the future. they have placed our democracy in jeopardy. we have to make sure that it is saved and strong, that our flag is still there, with liberty and justice for all. i'd rather just say, with another election over, let's go on to the next one. we're into the election year almost, let's talk about what is at stake. when we talk about liberty, we talk about what is at risk. what is at risk, the affordable care act, the former president already said that was his target, and that is important. people have to know, when we talk about democracy being at stake, it's your freedom to have health care. to have pre-existing conditions, not to have limits on the care that you can receive. that list goes on and on about a woman's health in terms of her reproductive freedom. let's not talk about them, let's talk about what comes next, let's give people hope. we can read the books, they're wonderful, i highly recommend them. i am writing one myself. i am sure that everyone who had anything to do that they as a version of the story there would like to tell. but our version has to be about the future. that is what we were protecting, our democracy, our future. for the children and, again, when you think about what is at stake, today, we had another shooting. and what you saw in the senate was to not even to allow the bill to discuss today, we lost norman lee here, this beautiful man, a super patriot who fought for us in world war ii, who fought for our liberty, for the american way. he made us safe, made us laugh, he made us better, so there is so much positive things, too many positive things that could be going on in our country, so many contributions that have been made, let's not talk about what, what's his name legacy, that's up to him to talk about, not me. >> i have one more question for one more what's his name, your current successor and speaker at the house who says he wants to release the video, security video from -- taken in congress on january six, but he wants to blur out the faces of everyone committing crimes. >> now, well, it's heartbreaking, when you see, what is happening there, and people should understand, this is depriving them of the truth, and the truth is what will set us free. you have to know the facts of what happened and why would he blur their faces. because he knows it is an indictment on them to see their faces. it's just not right. the impression that is given is that he is protects thing them at the expense that the police officers, a lot enforcement folks, people there to protect the congress, the capital. the free transition, peaceful transition of government, stood in the way of by these people. i heard that one of the debater said it was an inside job, it was. it was an inside job on the part of donald trump and his henchmen and the congress of the united states. >> what are the stakes for the world when they hear donald trump say he would be a dictator on day one, if he is elected president again, and what do dictators like vladimir putin hear in that statement? >> they hear a comrade in arms, but the fact is, he is not going to win. nothing less is at stake in this election then our democracy, and that democracy means your freedom to have access to health insurance, your own decision-making about your family's size and timing and the rest, your freedom to have education, read of books that aren't banned, your ability to be who you want to be in this country, so democracy is a value, a principle, but it is also translating into your kitchen table about the freedom that you have to make your choices about how your family goes forward. as far as dictators and other countries, they recognize what they see in the former president. they see somebody who shares their concern for disdain for the press. the press is the guardian of our democracy, on the first amendment, freedom of the press tells the story of what is going on, accountability, transparency, and governance in our society. they want to suppress the press, they want to characterize it in a negative way. i don't like the press i get, but that does not mean i don't like the press. sometimes, i don't like it. in any event, this message to those people, that they have a country so that was trying to crawl back into the white house, but we cannot let that happen, and i say that with all due respect in the world for the people who may have voted for the former president. but they have to make a decision, that our democracy, our flag, our constitution, the future of our children in a democratic state that is a model to the world, and when those putinized people see such a thing, they take join because they want us to not be the model for the world that america is. >> president biden today demanded that congress deliver aid to ukraine. republicans now blocking the aid. >> that is most unfortunate, because the fact is, if they think they're saving money, they're not. the ukrainians have been champions fighting for their their democracy and democracies writ large. if they were ever to lose, which is unthinkable, and we must make sure it does not happen, but if they were ever to lose, can you imagine how expensive it would be to fight putin in other countries? it's just something that is unaffordable in terms of democracy, but if you are just counting dollars, if you are just doing a green eyed shade on it, it's a false claim to say that you are going to save money. there is transparency, there is accountability, there is values, based, as well as the dollars, values based courage of the ukrainian people. i hope that this is just a few of them, many of them are very supportive of supporting ukraine and democracy there, at least that is what we see in the house. we have over 200 votes there. mitch mcconnell has been a champion for ukraine in the senate. i hope that he is not dragged down by those who don't share that view, but the fact is, they have to share the view that democracy must be saved, and the ukranians are a model to the country. in fact, they have demonstrated, frankly, that they would be good members of nato, because they have fought with our weapons, with our skills, with our training, all the rest, and they have staved off the biggest army in europe. we are now, what, almost going on two years, 21 months, and god bless them for their courage, god bless zelenskyy for the model that he is to the world. and, let's hope that this is just something for domestic consumption, that they want to hold people accountable, and that is fine, but let's get the job done and let's do it soon, and let's do it before christmas. >> i know you have seen many 24 -year-old congressional staffers at work on the hill over the years, many of them developing their careers up to the point that they become members of the house of representatives. liz cheney's book tells a story of a 24-year-old staffer in the white house, cassidy hutchinson, who told the truth to liz cheney in their investigation in such a way that liz cheney and the other members of the committee decided, that she needs a hearing of her own. that is how important this witness is. what did you feel when you saw this 24-year-old oil staffer, who had to make that decision, to stand up and tell the truth in a way that the senior people in the white house refused to do? >> we saw this young woman exude courage. imagine the courage, patriotism, truth, truth, that is such a strong thing, but she had the courage to tell that. that is not an easy thing to do. i, myself, was an employee on capitol hill, right out of college, my first year out of college, before paul and i were married. i could identify with her experience, but never with her courage. so, she has really been a gift to our country. i pray for her, because, i just think, that it was almost angelic to see her with the confidence and the clarity of message, the clear patriotism, but i will tell you, courage separates people one from the other, who has the courage to tell the story, to save our country, for the good of our democracy, for the good of our children, for the future. we thank her. we're grateful to her. it does, of course, bring tears to our eyes, to see someone so young be so courageous. again, just do the job. get the job done. >> she has been listening to you, and cassidy hutchinson will join us in a moment. speaker pelosi, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i never thank you enough. >> my pleasure, and i congratulate her on her, just her greatness, and liz, as well. thank you, lawrence. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back with cassidy hutchinson. liberty. liberty. ♪ when i was diagnosed with h-i-v, i didn't know who i would be. but here i am... being me. keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your healthcare provider about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your healthcare provider. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. no matter where life takes you, biktarvy can go with you. talk to your healthcare provider today. there's something going around the gordon home. good thing gertrude found delsym. now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together. this holiday with a ring video doorbell, see whose coming to town. happy holidays! 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>> correct. >> it's back on the shelves. what was your reaction to what we just heard speaker pelosi say about you? >> well, first, thank you for having me back, lawrence. it's good to be back with you and all of your viewers. there is a lot of new revelations in spoke to me, but namely what she had to say about speaker pelosi's involvement in the hearing and leading up to my hearing. although speaker pelosi and i are on different sides of the political aisle, as many of us are now a days, she sent the somebody i admire so deeply for her leadership. and all the contributions she made for our country, they hear her say that i was courageous, that will never not be a special moment for me, because she is somebody that is the embodiment of an american patriot and an american leader and somebody that you should look up to for generations to come, as is liz cheney, and if i can be a fraction of who they are, i hope to all be successful. >> let me try something that i got nowhere on with speaker pelosi, and that is kevin mccarthy. you know kevin mccarthy almost as well, possibly as well as speaker pelosi thus. you were closely with him. in your book, it's very clear, you're on a first name basis with him. he's now been driven from the speakership, as we saw a couple of weeks ago, now just completely giving up. what is your reaction to that? >> you know, lawrence, everything that kevin has dealt with up until this point is a consequence of his actions. and life as we know it is all about choices. he made a lot of choices that i don't personally agree with, not to say they're right or wrong. i think they were wrong for the country, personally. i think in this era of his life, he has been given probably the last opportunity to correct his wrongs. if he wants to continue being a part of the flying monkey crew that is leading the country down the path of destruction and the republican party down the path of destruction, that this is his perogative and will be his legacy. right now, his legacy is not great. he's the first speaker to be ousted but he also has historically been one of the strongest fund-raisers for the republican party. if he truly is committed to electing a new generation of leadership into the republican party, needs to rethink all of the poor choices he made in the past and how he can hurt them moving forward. >> listen more to what liz cheney said about you in the audio book, after the closed-door deposition session she had with the closed public hearing. >> at the close of the session, miss cassidy and her lawyer were leaving, she paused and turn back to me. i gave her a hug and i thanked her. i want you to know, i said, that i have three daughters who are about your age. if they ever had to face what you have, i can only hope they would show the same courage that you have. tears welled in her eyes. it was obvious that cassidy was under tremendous stress. it was equally obvious that she was determined to do what was right. >> what did it feel like at that moment? liz cheney, it seems, that's the moment when she realized, just how enormous your testimony was, this really was the committee's star witness. did you know that going out the door that day? >> no, that was at the end about their deposition, the deposition that i had backchannelled for. it's remarkable to me to that she has that poignant memory about it as well. i do as well. i can still feel the emotions. i remember pulling back from the hug and almost not wanting to let go, because for the first time, i felt that i had been embraced by a woman, i was looking into the eyes of a woman, that i knew years before, but had been doing the right thing for so long, and had taken decree to stance, and i had not been ready to make that leap. in that moment, i did not want to let go of her, because i felt ready to be on her side of history. i knew that the moment i walked out of that room, i lost that connection, at least temporarily. when i did walk out of that room, i don't think i really realized it in the exact moment. that's what i am more worried about getting nuked by the trump world, but my resolve in the days that followed continued to strengthen, knowing that i was heading on the path and will do whatever is necessary to continue to be welcomed by her and to continue writing the wrong stat i have made. >> when you read these companion books. liz cheney's book and your book, covering the same scene they now feel to me that that moment, that final moment that liz had, seems like the first moment that you can feel anything that feels like safety in this story? >> physical safety, yeah. in a strange way. the decisions that i was going to make in the weeks ahead, and these decisions that i had made would jeopardize my personal safety. but that did not matter to me, in those moments really. i was concerned about my family, because i knew i could not protect them, but i knew that the decisions i made already for the country, and they were right for me. that is all that mattered at that point. we have seen donald trump for years on these his supporters on good american people, elected officials he disagrees with, judges, election workers. i knew that i'd become a target of that, because i had been on the inside. i was part of that. i knew the playbook. but knowing that i was on the right side of history, with people like liz cheney, jamie raskin, adam kinzinger, benny thompson, nancy pelosi, that was enough, sense of security for me to continue persevering. and to keep going and moving forward. >> we are going to squeeze in a break here. when we come back, we'll turn to something that isn't a chapter of liz cheney's book that she entitle something like the ketchup incident. we'll be right back, more from cassidy hutchinson. om cassidy hutchinson cassidy hutchinson >> together can help you make smarter decisions. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. from pep in their step to shine in their coats, when people switch their dog's food to the farmer's dog, the effects can seem like magic. but there's no magic involved. 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(♪♪) down the wall, and there were shattered porcelain plates on the floor. the valet had articulated that the president was extremely angry at the attorney general ap interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. which was causing him to have to clean up. i grabbed the towel and wiped the ketchup off the wall to help the valet out. he said something to the effect of, he is really ticked off about this, i would stay clear of him for right now. he is really ticked off about this right now. >> and miss hutchinson, was this the only instance that you were aware of that the president threw dishes? >> it's not. >> how many more such incidents have you experienced? >> there are several, that's probably being a little too underestimating, there, lawrence. all of the reasons that donald trump should never be anywhere close to the oval office again, this may seem like a minor one but his volcanic temper, he deserves to be nowhere near the nuclear code buttons. i think for the american public to know this, to know about how he reacts so irrationally to things. his own hand picked attorney general is telling the truth, the -- i think that we should let the ketchup be diplayed on the walls at mar-a-lago. last night, donald trump said, he will be a dictator on day one. do you think that he'll be a dictator on day two? >> i think donald trump poses an extreme threat to american security and american prosperity. i think that donald trump, a vote for donald trump is a vote for a fascist government. i think donald trump prioritizes authoritarian rule over rule of law. yes, donald trump has told us who he is for years and years, so for him to even joke about being a dictator, we need to believe what he says. everybody needs to believe what he says, and we have seen that this is the trajectory that it is going in. there are constitutional experts that have seen that this is the direction that it's going in, and i think americans also need to understand just how fragile our democracy is. we almost lost our democracy and our constitutional republic on january six, and the only reason we didn't because there were good people in the government that helped it survive. i don't think that we would have that same scenario again. >> there was a leak of sorts of the witness list in the georgia prosecution of donald trump, headlined by former vice president mike pence, former attorney general william barr, acting attorney general jeffrey rosen, acting deputy attorney general, richard donahue. republican congressman, scott perry, who you know, steve bannon, the governor of georgia, obviously, the secretary of state of georgia, everyone assumes that you're on this list, and fani willis -- >> well, everybody assumes, lawrence. as we expressed before, when i last testified and any other trials, i would do so, not only out of a legal and moral obligation to the courts and our legal system, but i also believe that it's a duty to go to the american people. the american people need to know what happened, and the american people need to be making judgments for themselves. i hope that all of these people on the new list will comply fully with their subpoenas to testify truthfully. i have some doubts about a few of them because if past is precedent, then i think they tried to stiff arm, which is unfortunate for our system. it's completely selfish, and they should be nowhere near power, but that's what we also need to focus on in 2024 is electing responsible, good trustworthy people to hire office, to make sure that we can preserve the country. >> what did you feel on the day that your former boss and the white house, mark meadows, got indicted in georgia? 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