benjamin netanyahu is expected to speak to the media on the state of the war. this comes as israeli intelligence analysts poedly warned officials of plans of a major hamas invasion over a year before the october 7th attack. they were dismissed by their superiors. secretary of state, antony blinken saying, the security failure will be investigated. >> there is going to be plenty of opportunity for a full accounting of what happened on october 7th, including a look back to see how what happened, who knew what when. and israel has been very clear about that. right now, the focus is on making sure that they can do everything possible to ensure that it doesn't happen again. >> since the resumption infighting yesterday, israel says it has struck more than 400 hamas targets -- killing at least 200 palestinians, that is according to the gaza health ministry, joining me now from tel aviv, israel, nbc's david noriega, what can you tell us about these new israeli strikes? and the state of affairs when it comes to talks? shi >> alex, the war has resumed. it's important to note, israel's military campaign is now seeming to expand from being focused initially on the northern half of the gaza strip, to now including much of the southern half of those 400 targets that you mention that the idf says it has struck in just the last two days. many are in cities like him notice in rafah to the south. this is significant, a large number of civilians were displaced from the north into the south, the numbers that the hamas-run health ministry inside gaza has issued for casualties in the last couple of days, they say of those 200 killed, most are women and children. the idf, for its part, says it does not target civilians, its targets or hamas operatives in infrastructure, and it blames any civilian deaths on hamas, moreover, it says that it is giving people very specific precise orders to evacuate, civilians precise orders to evacuate that said, what we hear from civilians on the ground in gaza, they feel there is nowhere safe to go. many of them have already been made to evacuate sometimes more than once. as far as the state of talks, israel withdrew the team that it had in qatar today engaged in those talks. as of now, at least in terms of israel's involvement those talks seem to have collapsed. that said, the u.s. and other diplomatic actors are continuing their efforts. particularly the, u.s., which according to the white house, says they're still at least eight americans being held captive inside gaza. as far as why those talks broke down israel blamed hamas. it says hamas failed to follow through on its promise to turn over certain hostages, specifically women in children, which was the framework of the agreement. the u.s. backs up that assertion, here's what secretary of state tony blinken had to say on that point. take a listen. >> hamas renege on commitments it made, in fact, even before the pause came to an end, it committed an atrocious terrorist attack in jerusalem. killing three people, wounding others, including americans. it began firing rockets before the pause and it, as i said, it reneged on its commitments it made in terms of releasing certain hostages. >> alex, there is a bit of a lack of clarity right now around the question of exactly how many women in children hostages are left inside of gaza. that's very important, that's what was agreed upon in the existing framework for the first cease-fire, if we're in a situation where for more hostages to be released, they're gonna have to be men or even particularly soldiers, that's gonna require an entirely new and probably very different framework for an agreement. whether or not brexit gonna see that happen anytime soon, that remains to be seen. alex? >> you know, david, i'm looking at the official website of the hamas movement, there was a statement that was given by the deputy head of the political bureau of hamas, it is a shake sally -- he said the remaining prisoners we have our soldiers and former soldiers. there are no negotiations regarding them until the end of the aggression. to that point, there are female soldiers, correct? in israel? it could be that they believe any women that remain our soldiers. >> that's right. what the israeli authority says, by their count there are 17 women and children still left in gaza. it's not clear exactly how many of them are children. how many of them adult women. especially, there's even, i should say, there is some dispute around who considers who a soldier. there are people that hamas considers soldiers, particular women, where women of fighting age, who can potentially be in the idf or reserves, whether that they're actually serving at the time of their abduction. these are all sticking points. from what we're hearing, these are the sticking points that cause these, particular round of a temporary truce to collapse. those are the sticking points that are gonna remain sticking point in any future negotiations. >> okay, thank you so much, appreciate your live report there. we look forward to speaking with you again. in the meantime, for all of you, the turmoil over this conflict hitting homefor one member of congress. congressman adam smith of washington state says that his home w vandalized this week by cease-fire activists. smith says his garage was spray-painted with free gaza. among other things and the congn will be joining us in just a few minutes to discuss this. as well as the chances of another cease-fire in the middle east. let's go now to some more breaking news on this saturday, some stunning new rulings in two cases against donald trump. the judge in the federal election interference case rejeintrump's claim of absolute immunity from criminal prosecution. that cision coming on the same day a federal appeals court ruled trump does not have presidential immunity in civil cases brought by capitol police officers, democratic lawmakers, who sued trump. in 2021. let's go to nbc's dasha burns, joining us from cedar rapids, iowa. where donald trump is expected to speak a little later on today. how are folks reacting, dasha, to trump's latest legal round of troubles? >> look, alex, every time you hear about legal setbacks for the former president, they might be legal setbacks for him, they are also often political setbacks for his rivals, you can almost hear a collective groan from those folks, particularly from the likes of florida governor, ron desantis. they know that this means he owns another news cycle, they also know that this means that his supporters rally around him, that he really every time this happens, gets a real jolt from the base. any folks that might be considering looking or thinking about somebody else, they really come and rally in and support him. and for folks around here, they've been telling us, look, they are not worried about this they believe, of course, this is the base. this is a trump event, he's gonna be speaking here in just a matter of hours here. the supporters here, they believe he did nothing wrong, they believe this is a system of injustice, as he often calls it. on the campaign trail. this is though the primary. this is the republican base here. what changes is if he does, as many folks expect, become the republican nominee it's a different story when it comes to the general election. and then the narrative changes, and that he needs to convince people that are not the red meat base that these legal setbacks, the cases that are going to be playing out against the backdrop of the 2024 election, are not too distracting. are not going to be something that means he cannot focus. on the real kitchen table focus -- issues that people worried about. those are gonna be the hardest case to make to a general electorate than it is to a primary electorate, alex? >> very good point, we're in the primary electorate season. we'll see what happens in the general. thank you so much, dasha burns, for that. joining me now, politico senior legal affairs later, josh gers josh, good to see you. let's talk first about this ruling, this one by judge tanya chutkan. this in the criminal electi interference case, where she wrote, que, whatever immunity 's a sitting president may enjoy, the united states has only one chief executive at a time. that position does not confer a lifelong get out of jail free pass. former presidents enjoy no special conditions on their federal criminal liability. to this ruling surprise you at all, josh? what does this mean for special counsel jack smith's case against trump? >> well, alex, it's a critical ruling it didn't surprise me, i have to say, because of the approach that judge chutkan has taken in earlier cases, where she delivered a similar back of the hand to trump's arguments. that he had some special rights as a former president. she emphatically says again, in this decision, that he does not. it is also interesting to me, alex she didn't even hold a hearing, an argument session, on this motion by trump's lawyers. claiming that he has an absolute immunity for most types of activities he would've undertaken while he was president. so, that indicates to you two things. one, how little she thought of the validity or the merits of trump's arguments, but also that she didn't want to waste time. this is the first criminal case in the set of four that trump is facing right now, the first one scheduled for trial in march 4th, which may sound like a long way away. but believe you me, once we get to the holidays, that's going to be right around the corner. so she's swatting this down knowing that trump is going to try to appeal it. and that has the potential, if it takes too long, to derail the start of this case on march 4th. >> as you well know, trump's attorneys, josh, they are expected to soon appeal this. that would potentially dey the trial that set for march 4th. as you know, the supreme court has held that presidents are immune from civil liability for actions related to their official duties. but they've never grappled with the question of whether that immunity extends to criminal prosecutions. how do you see this playing out. >> well, there will be an appeal first, alex, to the dc circuit court of appeals. that's the same appeals court that just yesterday delivered this opinion on the civil lawsuits trump is facing. saying that he doesn't have absolute immunity for those, it seems to be very likely that they'll reach the same conclusion in this case and say that there's nothing that guarantees that a former president cannot be charged with crimes that took place while he was in office or allegedly took place while he was in office. so, i think that's where it goes in the first stage. what happens in the supreme court is hard to say. although, if you look back over the last three or four years, alex, especially since the election in 2020, trump has not had much, of any success at the supreme court with any of the issues that he or his supporters have tried to raise. at least when they seem to pertain to him personally. including the challenges to the 2020 election. might it get some traction in the supreme court? it might, i think the big question is is this a case they decide to formally take? in the arguments on? that would almost certainly mean this trial can't go forward on march 4th, or is it something that is resolved with something less than that. just a paper ruling, saying we're not gonna take this up right now. >> josh, why do you think it took a whole year to get this ruling? from the d.c. federal appeals court? there were three of them, it was unanimous, we should 0.1 was a trump appointee, why so long? why a whole year? >> well, that's something we pointed out earlier this week, this decision seem to have been stuck for so long. as you say, there was one trump appointee on the panel, although he seemed to agree with the democrat who's the chief judge -- sreenivasan, who wrote the main opinion. it's a little bit baffling. it's about three times longer than the d.c. circuit typically takes to resolve a case after oral argument. it's possible in some of the nuances of the ruling because the intention it was gonna get, the judge wanted to make sure they had absolutely right. it should also know that about halfway through that period, they went to the justice department and said can you explain to us what you think a president civil immunity is in civil lawsuits, the these are cases that don't actually involve the justice department, their private parties like the members of congress in the police officer suing trump peonly. >> all right, well, certainly did their due diligence let's put it that way, it begs the question about appeals. why? but i guess that's the process. josh gerstein, thank you much. coming up later this hour we're gonna hear from hannibal davin, the former spokesperson for the january 6th committee. we're gonna hear about liz cheney's new book, and it's revelations that might surprise even the most jaded never trumpers. in the meantime, he's gone. so was he bullied? or did he have it coming? what constituents are former congressman george santos are saying, that's coming up later. first, congressman adam smith on the next steps in the israel-hamas war, in the vandals that struck his home, we're back in a quick 60 seconds. quick 60 seconds. about three or four years ago, i wasn't feeling as if i was as sharp as i used to be. i saw the prevagen commercials. after a short amount of time taking prevagen, i started noticing a difference-- that i'm remembering this, i'm remembering that. i stopped taking prevagen and i found myself slacking back so i jumped right back on it. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. the chase ink business premier card is made for sam who makes, everyday products, designed smarter. genius! like 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more, so sam can make smart ideas, a brilliant reality! chase for business. make more of what's yours. >> even more breaking news, the house of the ranking member of armed services committee vandalized by israel-hamas war protesters. news just came to light a short time ago. democratic representative adam smith says the barrage of his home in bellevue,waington, was defaced by cease-fire activists right around the same time the truce between israel and hamas and yesterday. the words, free gaza, cease-fire, and baby killer were spray-painted on the garage doors. and congressman adam smith of washington shining the right now from california, where he has been attending the reagan national defense forum. welcome, my friend. weeot too far apart from each other here, out of the valley of los angeles. that said, theseactivists are using provocative and illegal tactics, the facing ferocity, as they push for a cease-fire. what's your response to it, overall, and, also their demands on you to call for a cease-fire? >> part of it overall, a very troubling trend in american politics, on both the extreme right and extreme left. first, fall there's an incredibly arrogant self righteousness about them, that whatever they want test to be absolutely right, and no matter what, they have to get it. they don't fundamentally belief in representative democracy and having, dialogue and debate and elections and living with the outcome of those elections. and second of all, the other troubling aspect of the trend is certainly those on the right have done this many times. they try to intimidate people who disagree with them. they use threats, intimidation, in some cases, violence, to do that. and fundamentally, that gets to the core of our representative democracy. a representative democracy is about open public debate, elections, clear sets of rules. once you decide that those don't apply, once you decide the intimidation is unacceptable tactic, you are threatening the very foundation of representative democracy, and the suspect have been in the seattle area for quite some time, the city council, former police chief, that they show up at their homes and threatened them in a variety of different ways, and it's really troubling and problematic. the best thing we could do is aggressively pushback against, which i intend to, i'm not going to be intimidated by this, i believe in representative democracy, and i have met with groups like this many times, i'm not blocking access, and giving them the opportunity to make their case in the way it should be made, so, that is, it's a very troubling direction. the broader issue is absolutely worth and open, public debate. what's going on in gaza right now as deeply troubling. no one is happy about the humanitarian crisis going on there. where we disagree is precisely how to handle it, and that's where we should have that discussion. like i said, we've had it, you don't need to try to resort to intimidation and creating the possibility for violence in order to have that debate. >> yeah, 100%. you are gonna be having that debate again, but i can ask you in your home, so they would search for safety during this spray-paint and vandalism attack? >> my wife was home, that's a troubling aspect of it, i mean, who knows? i don't honestly believe the people who did this had any violent intent or intended to break in, but mobs take on a mentality of their own. which is one or more people, and also, you know, my children are you know, college age or just beyond so, they're not home all that often but what if when my kids is coming home at 1:00 in the morning, and these people are there? the risk of a confrontation like this escalating is significant. so, yeah. it's already some. i mean, it's part of the job, so it doesn't bother me, that's a certain point. but certainly, we need to be worried about it as a family, and so does every other elected official out there today. and that really shouldn't be the case,. >> you say it's part of the, drop the question, is should it be to this extent. but let's move on to talk about the fighting, which we know, has resumed between israel and hamas. secretary of state blinken has said israel has a clear plan to minimize civilian casualties after he urged israel to protect innocent life, but i'm curious your analysis, sir if the situation end of the biden administration's approach here. >> there are several layers to. it first of all, i'm really disappointed in the reporting that doesn't emphasize as much. it is hamas who is placing civilians at risk. they have, you know, throughout their history, used civilians as shields. they have placed their military operations under hospitals, under civilian locations, they've seen a lot of reporting that's like, well one side says one thing, once i associate the. there's absolutely no debate this is precisely what hamas is doing. and then, when hamas attacks and brutally murders civilians across the border, israel has to try to go find those people, the laws of warfare, number one, make it clear that the war crime here is being committed by hamas who is hiding behind civilians. absolutely, gives the other side the right to go after those military targets, even if they are hitting, so. and we need more widely understand that. i think president biden is taking the right approach on this. look, i think israel needs to think more broadly. they can't just go in and, you, know without any concern for civilian casualties but we've seen a change in that. humanitarian aid is coming into gaza. and initially, in the immediate aftermath of october 7th, israel was talking about coming in right now, cut everything off, president biden, secretary austin and others, you know, really went in there to work with israel on taking a different approach. but look, a cease-fire would basically say that we ought to let hamas get away with a murder set they committed, and we should block israel from trying to hold those people accountable and crucially stop them from ever doing it again. i don't think that's the right policy here. now, there are broader policies about how israel treats the palestinians, sorry for the long answer here, one, quick final point on. this it is absolutely crucial that the palestinian civilians have a future. i have major problems with the way that netanyahu government has handled that over the course of the last ten or 15 years. i have said so publicly before october 7th, and i continue to say. so aaron ministration, the biden, to make those points and in many cases, they are. but you can't lehamas get away with this type of murder. >> yeah, absolutely. let me ask you about what nbc news is now reportg. the october 7th terroristo attack, analys in the israeli military alerted their superiors to a serious threat from hamas lints. a quote, planned desiedo start a war. but their concerns were dismissed by their superis, according to an israel official famiarith this matter. so, this new evidence comes after the new york times reported this we tt israel obtained the hamas battle pn, describing the october 7th attacks a full year ago. does this growing evidence of an epic intelligence failure gives you pause when you consider providing more military aid to israel? >> it doesn't give me pause until ms. of providing military aid. it will need to be able to defend themselves. it does reinforce my very firm belief, that the netanyahu government has been an utter disaster for the israeli people. completely irresponsible, not paying attention to the threats they should've been paying attention to, all as president netanyahu was trying to appease the most extreme elements of israeli politics, in an effort to stay in power. by focusing on pushing settlements deep into the west bank. and pushing down the palestinian authority, while ignoring hamas. i mean, this is really part of netanyahu strategy here, didn't want a credible palestinian population. so he went after the palestinian authority, and really wasn't paying as close attention to hamas as he should have been. i look, i think viscerally people, they need a new prime minister. they need a new government. and this just makes that point all the more strongly. >> may i ask you, finally, with regard to whether it's benjamin netanyahu government or another prime minister's government, the aid that you're willing to support for israel, should that come with conditions then? >> i think the aid should come with conditions. i don't think that's the way you work with allies. you should decide, is this an ally, is a supporter worth supporting? >> i do think, and president biden, again, secretary blinken, secretary austin have done this, i do think it is in our interest to communicate to the israeli government our concerns about, basically the broad issue is, the palestinian population needs a future. if they don't have a future, if they don't have hope, number one that is completely wrong. people who deserve our respect and deserve a future, just as much as anybody else. number two, it's not in the best interest of israeli security to do that. so, i think it's appropriate to talk about pulling back those settlements, and working with the palestinian population to build a viable palestinian state. it's become popular to dismiss the two state solution as a pointless fantasy. i admit it's a long way off. it is also the only path to peace. we have to be in a position to build a viable civilian population that has an alternative to hamas. that has a future. our government needs to communicate that message with israel. and i believe we have been doing that. >> okay, congressman adam smith, always a pleasure speaking with, you safe travels home sir, thank you. you've read plenty about january 6th, things like who is outraged behind the scenes, yet did nothing to stop it. but there are revelations in a new book that might surprise even the most jaded reader. we're gonna talk about them, next with hannah mcdavid, the former spokesperson for the january 6th committee. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. -see? 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>> yeah, vice chair cheney's book goes into exactly what i thought it was. so, it's not surprising. she looks at how her experience and on january six really means that donald trump is unfit for office. not only that, but alex, as you mentioned, she says that the people within the gop, the republican party that enable him, are defying their oath to the constitution. she really goes after, and this is not surprising for me nor anyone i think who works on capitol hill, that a lot of these individuals that are some of donald trump's biggest supporters publicly, privately, don't necessarily agree with that. right? i thought kevin mccarthy, while not surprising that he said something behind closed doors against donald trump, we now know from liz cheney's book that he said he talked to donald trump two days after the election, where donald trump said he lost the election. right? you have speaker johnson, a new character for many of those who have been following national news in the january six story over the past couple of years, he was one of the leaders of trying to get members of congress on that amicus brief, that would basically overturn the election for donald trump in a few states. liz cheney made a few remarks to him about why his legal argument doesn't make sense and he said, we just need to give this to him, right? >> what? >> that we see mike johnson visiting donald trump in mar-a-lago, making steps within the speakership to hold the impeachment proceedings against joe biden, right? these are all moves donald trump is controlling, and some of these remarks, will not surprising, are still shocking to hear, right? these are members that are elected to congress that are now saying things that are against their oath to the constitution, and i think that's something that liz cheney has been a staunch supporter of, our constitution, during the january six hearings. and she was in this book as well. >> it is utterly extraordinary. it's why reacted the way i did, when you think about mike johnson,, again he is the speaker of the house right now. this is a guy who said we just need to give donald trump one more thing. are you kidding me? the presidency, for another four years, that's a little more than one more thing, saying give him a gift for his birthday. it is just eradinary. but as you go to cnn's report, cheney wrote this, tt jim jordan extended his hand to her during the riots saying, we need to get the ladies off the aisle. let me help you. she, intern, swatted his hands away, get away from me, you expletive did this. that's what she wrote,. hannah has any member of congress been called to account for the roles in the events of january six, and even, is there a path to accountability to do that? >> alex, your outrage is completely right. it is what i feel almost every day, reading these headlines. the january six committee try to get some of the answers from these individuals, from those that we know were involved in this attack. we subpoenas five of those members, kevin mccarthy, jim jordan were among them. all of those individuals to fighter subpoenas, we didn't talk to them, and i think when jim jordan was running for his speakership bid, a few of those were talked about more, but these are republican congressman that were essential to the plot to overturn the election. they met with donald trump in december, after the election results were known, to try to talk about this january six joint session, and how they could overturn the election. i found a very interesting when we republican party expel george santos, that some of them were talking about a thought it was really important to hold one of their own accountable when they did something wrong. i think january six is a pretty clear something wrong here. right? donald trump has been indicted for some of these things, and we're going to follow along with this. he is the one who let it, but he was accompanied by a lot of these republican maquette members of congress that are still doing his bidding. it's very scary and i hope we can hold him accountable. we can't forget we need to keep trying. bu so far, we haven't seen accountability for these people. >> yeah, we know donald trump suffered quite a few legal setbacks this week. you lost two presidential unity appeals. one in appeals court. you lost a free speeument, hannah with the, judge saying the first amendment does not protect speech that is used as an instrument of a crime. and then, you lost to the senate to blanket subpoena members of congress and records from the january six committee. are you impressed by how quickly some of these appeals are being hurt? do you think his d.c. trial is going to start before the 2024 election? >> alex, i'm not a lawyer, but like anyone following this, it's very clear to know what donald trump's tactics are. he did it with us as well machinery six committee. it's delay, delay, delay, and he's really trying to delay its past what you just mentioned. the election. we have a couple of important dates coming up, the beginning of the gear will bring us into the election year, where if donald trump maintains his lead at the top of that republican field, which by all accounts, we expect him to from the numbers, we're going to enter into new, dangerous territory, so, perhaps some of this timeline is being expedited in the courts because of this. this timeline, that it's really hard when there's so many things he needs to be held accountable for, to hope that we get that accountability before people are going to the ballot box to vote. it's a very scary situation for us to be in, but i believe, as to the january six committee, these are unprecedented actions taken by an unprecedented man in that office, that hold that office, and we need to keep trying to hold him accountable. so, the wall street journal's out today, with a new article on trump's second term plans, and that includes, in terms of his plans, and anti-woke university in so-called freedom cities, adding he's planning to martial the power of the government to investigate and punish his critics. what's your assessment of how his second term plans are being received on capitol hill, should you get on the white house? >> donald trump is not a party that, he's not a person that leads the party with conservative values. donald trump's only priorities are protecting himself. we saw that on january six. you will do whatever he could to stay in power himself. you didn't care about any policies or any party. so, this isn't surprising that he is coming in with a lot of new policies that would weaponize the government to protect himself against his you know, perceived enemies. but people don't fall in line with, this aren't donald trump supporters, found that university one specifically interesting because there was a trump university, and donald trump settled three lawsuits against trump university for defrauding students that attended that. we have seen this in past times. he doesn't have good intentions. he just wants to put himself first. and that's exactly what we're seeing with these plans. it's very scary to think about a second term. who would work for him? every republican i talked to in washington, d.c., asks me that question because they don't know what reasonable, in their, mind republican would work for a donald trump administration, a second administration. >> well, there are people that are answering his applications, that's for sure. hannibal dave, and thank you so much. look forward to speaking to you again soon. coming up next, we're taking you to george santos's former district, to see what voters think about his expulsion from congress. let's just say this. nobody is pulling any punches. can get virtually every hair in one stroke. for the ultimate gillette shaving experience. the best a man can get is gillettelabs. therapist: come on! for the ultimate gillette shayeah, come on!e. 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if he is just buying time getting through the process, we know first and foremost, the legal process for donald trump's delay, delay, delay. that's always his tactic. it's going to be able to do that? >> so, i think it's going to happen now is his lawyers will appeal judge chutkan's ruling. that will come to the d.c. appeals court and it will go all the way to the supreme court and the question is, how long it's going to take? will that be expedited? hopefully, they won't move with some speed, but given the fact that the d.c. circuit just only recently came out with an opinion on presidential immunity since the civil context, and that was, i think, over a year ago, that was pending, you know, it's unclear how quickly they will actually be moving here. but one other point to the question you were just racing is this opinion from judge chutkan. she was very clear about its limits. she says, this applies to federal prosecution. it does not like to state and local prosecutions. , so this is not an opinion that the judges in georgia, or in new york, are going to be able to rely on, with respect to presidential immunity. >> interesting. let's go to eric trump, who, you know, it's going to take a stand on wednesday in the new york civil fraud trial. donald trump then gets to go into, it's cadets by the following monday. then, you have the closing arguments, get kicked to january 2024. but if the judge already found trump or work committed fraud by over valuing the assets, how much further to 2024 could this trial go? >> i don't think it will go really beyond january 2024, he seemed to signal that between the state which was saying we want to have closing statements in december, we want to wrap this up, versus the defense, which is saying we want some time for briefing. we want after the last witness, which is donald trump, on the december 11th, we want some time to breathe, and then, we want to make our closing statements. then, the judge seemed inclined to do that. but he's going to want some briefing and he's going to want those statements, and someday in january of 2024. they don't think the judge is going to kick it much beyond that, because donald trump has a lot of other trials, including eaten carroll image in your area as well. so, there's a lot going, on i think he's going to look to wrap this up. >> okay, christian greenberg, there's a lot to talk, about so, we'll be seeing you again, that's for sure, thank you. you information on what could be the biggest threats to america, after a break. a break 56 past with this breaking. ng let's go to nbc news national security correspondent, -- joining us from the annual reagan national defense forum. in simi valley, california. where she moderated what i'm sure was a stellar panel this morning. well done to you, courtney. let's get to what the participants were saying. >> i can tell you a little bit of what we're doing here at the reagan defense forum this, year there's a bunch of different topics that are on the desk. one of the big ones continues to be china. the threat from china, the panel that we just moderator that we just came out of was about the threat here in this hemisphere. we had a couple of opportunities to hear from some of the leaders in the military and on the hill to talk about it. including general paul nakasone, he has been the commander of u.s. cyber command, the national security agency for five and a half years now. and i asked him specifically about what it is that is such a threat to this area in his perspective. here's what he had to say. the longer term threat truly is the corrosive influence about china and russia. i think about the diplomatic information military economic influences that both nations are having an off southern border and certainly in the hemisphere. it's time very closely to this region. in sometimes, we forget that. >> you know, alex, it's pretty rare that we hear from the head of the nsa as he said, he's been in this job for five and a half years. he's due to retire, in fact, his replacement has already been announced. but because he still stuck in the. about the threats here in the. congressman mike waltz talking about the threats from drugs, come across the border. tens of thousands of americans dying from drug overdoses every single year, that was another big topic here. i think, throughout the rest of the day, we should expect to hear more about russia, china, and of course, the situation in israel. alex? >> of okay, first of, all before your ifb drop down, i was putting glowing praise on you and your ability based on what we see all the time on the, air you're ability to conduct a panel. let me ask you, is there anything that you find this group in general is unanimously most concerned about. what is the one topic that you think is top of mind? >> so, it's china. without a doubt. that's the main thing that we keep hearing about here today. it's everything from china, when you talking about this hemisphere, it's china's continuing efforts to try to make inroads in this area. whether it's through economic means. whether it's through south america, for instance. china now has a major space infrastructure that's due to double over the next several years. but beyond, that we've also talked about china's influences all around the world. i know that, right now, we are all very focused on israel, on the war in gaza, on how that may spread through the region. i have to say, there has been a lot of focus here already today, and i expect more of it on the continuing threat from china. >> okay, from one end of the valley to the other, have a good rest of your afternoon. thank you so much, courtney kube. that's gonna do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports, we'll do this again tomorrow at one pm eastern. that'll be 10 am pacific, my friend yasmin vossoughian continues our coverage right now. hey, everybody, good to serve you. i'm yasmin vossoughian, the truce is over an israeli offense of his back in

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