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he's 17, and he is from france. he's not irish. he's come over from france to go to ireland, work at this restaurant. he has like an intern job in the kitchen. and this past week on thursday, on our thanksgiving day here, this young man, 17 years old, he was on his way to work, about 1:30 in the afternoon, and he happened upon a man with a knife who was in the middle of attacking someone. and the kid jumped into the fray. he was armed with absolutely nothing at all. the kid struggled with this armed man. he actually got cut on his hands and his face in the struggle. but the kid managed to get the knife out of this guy's hands. the restaurant that the kid works at, they posted this photo of him online and a testimony to how proud they are of him and what he did. they said not all superheroes wear capes. the irish times also reports that the president of france, emmanuel macron, placed a call to this young man, thanking him personally on behalf of his country, thanking him on behalf of france, for what he did in rushing in to stop that attack while he was on his way to work in dublin, in ireland. this man is also not from there. he is from brazil. he's from rio de janeiro. he's been in ireland for only about a year. he moved to ireland for work, and again, on our thanksgiving day, on thursday, he was also at work in dublin. he was driving a scooter for a food delivery company, a company called deliveroo, and on his deliveroo scooter, he passed what he thought at first was a fight. he slowed down because he thought it was a fight in progress. it turned out not to be a fight. it was that same man, the man with the knife, in the middle of what appears to have been a totally unprovoked knife attack, the brazilian delivery driver was apparently the first passer-by to realize what was happening on the sidewalk that day. he stopped his -- he pulled over, stopped his scooter. he ran over to the man with the knife. he took off the motorcycle helmet that he was wearing, and he used his motorcycle helmet to hit the guy. he clocked the guy in the head with the motorcycle helmet, which knocked the guy down, and then once the guy was on the ground, he hit him once more in the helmet. once the man with the knife was down on the ground thanks to the delivery driver taking off his motorcycle helmet and using it to hit the guy and knock him down, that's when other passers-by were able to get to the guy as well to hold him down, frankly to hit him some more, but that is also when the 17-year-old, the french kid from the restaurant, was able to get the knife out of the guy's hand, himself getting cut in the process. but it was passers-by who stopped it. the kid from the restaurant and the delivery driver on the scooter playing crucial roles. the delivery driver gave a statement to police after the police arrived on the scene. he also gave a statement to a local news organization, rte, about what happened. and then another local guy, another local guy from dublin, decided to start a gofundme, asking people to show their appreciation by buying the guy a proverbial pint. the gofundme said the man is a hero and the least we can do is buy him a pint. so i'm asking you to donate the price of a pint of guinness in your local so he knows the people of dublin appreciate him. so again, the attack was thanksgiving day, on thursday. the gofundme for the delivery driver was posted on friday. by saturday, it had raised more than 300,000 euros. the headline in "the new york times". donors give over 300,000 euros for immigrant who intervened in dublin stabbing. many people in ireland and beyond are saying thanks by buying him a proverbial pint. as of tonight, i just checked before we got on the air, more than 33,000 people have made donations to that gofundme to say thank you to the delivery driver on the street. now, the knife attack that these two men, the brazilian guy and the french guy, the knife attack they intervened in in dublin on thursday, it was a terrible attack. three little kids were hurt, one of them quite seriously, also a child care worker who had stepped in to try to protect the little kids. the man who stabbed these people, nobody knows why he did it, but he was stopped by these passers-by on the street before the police were able to get there. once the police got there, he was arrested. almost immediately after this attack, right-wing social media outlets including twitter here in the united states, and right-wing political groups locally, they started spreading speculation about who the attacker was and why he did it. they called for people to come out and riot against immigrants in dublin. and people did. and they burned a bus, they smashed up cars including police cars. they looted stores, they attacked hostels and hotels where people thought immigrants were staying. but again, it was a brazilian immigrant delivery driver who clocked the guy in the head with his helmet and stopped the attack. it was this young kid from france who got the knife off the guy once and for all. so you get -- you are here. you get the terrible attack. senseless, horrific attack. you also get hero immigrants stopping it. you also get anti-immigrant riots, then you also get people showing great thanks and kindness and generosity to the heroes. it's like a moral tug of war for the soul. and honestly, the more people who are tugging in the wrong direction on that rope, the more people are needed on the other side to pull the other way. you might have seen coverage over the last few days of a career u.s. state department official, a guy who served under multiple presidents, who was for some reason stalking and harassing a random egyptian guy who worked at halal cart in the east side. over a period of weeks, this guy just harassing and abusing and racially taunting this guy, taunting him for being muslim, taunting him for being an immigrant, taunting him from being from the middle east. the alleged harasser here has now been arrested. he's charged with multiple crimes including aggravated harassment and stalking. but meanwhile, on the upper east side of manhattan, the neighbors who live around wherthis happened, thneighbors who live nearby to this food cart where this guy had been harassing and attacking the guys who work at the cart, the neighbors there have rallied to support these beleaguered guys at the food truck who did nothing to deserve what they got. neighbors have been lining up to make sure they have more business than they have ever had. neighbors baked one of them a cake for his birthday last week and brought the cake to the food cart. they set up a table and chairs next to the food cart so people can sit down and eat together and get to know each other. it's the sort of stuff that's not going to solve everything. it's n gng to undo what has been done, even in this specific instance. but it is a tug, right? it's a tug on one side of the moral tug of war. it's showing up, a kind of show of heart. it's not always easy to find a way to do that, though. on saturday afternoon, three friends were walking down the street in burlington, vermont. these are three guys who have known each other since they were kids. they're all 20 years old now. they all went to the same quaker school together growing up. now they're 20 years old, college aged, and all in great schools. one goes to trinity school in connecticut, one goes to brown university in rhode island, one goes to halverferred college in pennsylvania. they were in vermont for thanksgiving weekend because the kid who goes to brown, his family lives in burlington where he spent a lot of time growing up. his uncle and his mom's mom. his mom's brother and his mom's mom, his uncle and his grandmother, live next door to each other in burlington, quite near the university of vermont. again, he spent tons of time there growing up and apparently both for this thanksgiving and for the previous few thanksgivings he and his friends are gone there to spend thanksgiving with him and his extended family. this is the young man at brown, a picture of him with his mom in the center there, and his grandmother on the right, the young man goes to brown, obviously, the gentleman on the left there. the young man who goes to haverford college in pennsylvania, he is in the running for cutest baby pictures of all time, including in his superman suit on the right here. here he is in a more recent photo with his mom. his mom obviously very proud of him, at haverford college, he's premed, a trained emt, also a competitor on the track team at haverford. so these two young men along with their friend who goes to trinity college in connecticut, the young man who you see on the left side of the screen here, on saturday, they were all walking down the street er in burlington, vermont, some reports said they had just gone bowling together and were walking around the neighborhood. and without any warning at all, a -year-old man came out of his apartment building, didn't say a word. but pulled a gun and shot all three of them. he was armed with what police say was a .38 caliber handgun. the man has since been arrested, charged with three counts of attempted murder. he has pled not guilty. he's being held without bail. but now, the young man from trinitege, the man on the left, the young man from haverford, then the right ere, they're both hospitalized in stable condition. one shot in the chest, one shot in the back side. the young man in the center of your screen, the young man from brown, had bullet that hit him apparently hit his spine. his condition is more serious. his prognosis is more uncertain. today, the uncles of two of these young men came forward to speak for their families. >> everybody, my name is rich price. i'm the uncle of one of the shooting victims, hisham, he's my nephew, and i'm proud to be here with radi, who is the uncle of kinnan, and will you join me? we speak only on behalf of the family because the family can't be here. i want to say that these three young men are incredible. and that's not just proud uncle speaking, but it's true. they are -- they have their lives in front of them. they are committed to building incredible lives. they each go to great schools. they were our house guests for thanksgiving as they have the past few thanksgivings. we had just been to my 8-year-old twins' birthday party. these three college students who if you're in college, who wants to go to an 8-year-old birthday party? but these three guys did, and they came, they played with my boys. we had just come home and they were walking around the block, and this is when this happened. my sister lives in the occupied west bank. and people often ask me, aren't you worried about your sister, aren't you worried about your nephews and your niece? and the reality is, as difficult as their life is, they are surrounded by incredible sense of community. and tragic irony is not even the right phrase, but to have them come stay with me for thanksgiving and have something like this happen speaks to the level of civic vitriol, speaks to the level of hatred that exists in some corners of this country. it speaks to a sickness of gun violence that exists in this country. and i'm proud of even though this is devastating that this happened in this community, i am really proud and grateful to the community that is here and has rallied around our family and these boys. >> i'm still processing everything. i just got here from california. and walked right in, as you saw. we consider ourselves very lucky at this point, as far as kinnan's family is concerned. not so with hisham and tahseen, we're praying for them and still in shock over this. as he stated, kinnan grew up in the west bank, and we always thought that could be more of a risk in terms of his safety. and sending him here would be, you know, the right decision. we feel somehow betrayed in that decision here, and you know, we're just trying to come to terms with everything. >> we feel somehow betrayed in that decision. the man who police say committed this crime on saturday in vermont, as i mentioned, he is under arrest. he's charged with three attempted murders, trying to kill these three palestinian american young men. he's being held without bail. at this point, there's no hate crimes enhancement that prosecutors are asking for in conjunction with these crimes. the state's attorney explicitly said they're still trying to understand the motive. but here this is. you know, happening in our time, in our country, to collectively our kids, our american kids. which puts us all on the spot, for trying to find a way to show up morally, to try to find a way to make a moral difference, to add our share of strength, pulling toward what we think is right. joining us now is radi, the uncle of kinnan, who is still in the hospital recovering from a gunshot wound. i really appreciate you being here tonight. i know this is a really hard time. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> so, what i have been able to describe tonight is what we have been able to put together through public reporting and the statements that are made today at the press conference that you were part of. nbc news has also spoken with hisham's mother. let me just ask if you and your family know anything further that you can add to our understanding of the situation or certainly if there's anything that i explained there that i might have gotten wrong. >> no, i believe -- i heard your explanation, and i think that was accurate. at this time, i wouldn't be able to speak to any of those facts right now. >> okay. can you give us any update on how kinnan is doing? >> well, i would start by saying first off how incredibud we all are of these three boys. thlevel of resilience they're showing really has us all in awe as they're going through this. you know, rachel, they knew each other since birth, these boys are best of friends. and you know, we believe that's creating -- well, allowing them, anyway, to lean on each other. and to get through this very hard time together. that being said, we know obviously there's a long road to recovery ahead. but we're all optimistic and hopeful. >> you said today that you feel somewhat betrayed by the decision that your family made in terms of thinking about his safety. obviously, kinnan grew up in the west bank. these three young men know each other from going to quaker school together in ramallah in ee the west bank. the idea that it would be safer for them, particularly right now, for them to be in the united states, for them specifically to be in a place like vermont. you said that you felt a sense of betrayal about that. sort of calculus having proven to be so surprisingly and awfully wrong. i wonder if you could explain a little more about what you meant by that. >> yeah. i am a palestinian american. i was born and raised here, but i did spend high school and a little university in palestine. so i have kind of my foot, you know, in both worlds. and you know, we really value academics, education and academics. and we thought you know bringing kinnan from a place where there's a military occupation, constant threat of violence against him, bringing him out of that and into america where i grew up and felt safe for the most part, so that he could pursue his dreams, only for that to happen, something so tragic for him to be violently attacked here in a small town in vermont is really quite shocking. and i think it speaks really directly to the climate that we're seeing and the language being used in particular towards palestinians or to describe palestinians over the last couple months and over the last years and decades, in fact, rachel. i think this has opened the door to something like this happening, and we're seeing the effects. and i personally believe it wasn't a matter of if but really when something like this was going to occur. >> radi, the uncle of kinnan, i know your nephew has, as you said, a long road ahead of him in terms of recovery, but thank you for talking to us about it tonight. and keep us apprised. we would love to have you back, we would love to speak with your nephew when we know he's going to be better. >> thank you very much. a world away from burlington, vermont, information continues to come in tonight about hostages who have been released by hamas in gaza, another exchange of hostages from gaza and palestinian prisoners being held by israel. we're going to have an update tonight in particular on an israeli family who we met in the very early days of this crisis. all very live issue right now. lots of this developing over the course of the late evening. we have more ahead tonight. stay with us. stay with us goli, taste your goals. goli, taste your goals. this is the scene right now inside the carter presidential library and museum in atlanta, georgia, where former first lady rosalynn carter is lying in repose this evening and where the public has been invited to pay their respects. rosalynn carter died a week ago at age 96. her husband of 77 years, former president jimmy carter, himself is 99 years old. he, as you know, has been in hospice care since early this year, since february, but he is expected to attend memorial services for his wife tomorrow in atlanta, if he's feeling well enough. we hope he is. also in attendance tomorrow will be president joe biden and vice president kamala harris, and their spouses, along with lots of other dignitaries including all four living former first ladies. tomorrow will be sort of the high point of a multi-day remembrance of mrs. carter. and it's the sort of civic centerpiece of what is happening right now in the great state of georgia. but this solemn and lovely moment in georgia comes at a time when georgia itself continues to be in some ways the center of american politics or at least the center of some of the most interesting things in american politics. just before the thanksgiving break, we got the worrying but also totally inevitable feeling news about republican officials in three different counties in georgia deciding that they would refuse to certify this year's election results. these are republican officials in three different counties who refused to vote to certify their county's local election results from earlier this month. these were run of the mill elections, run of the mill election results. there was not necessarily anything wrong with these elections or with the results. the elections basically went off just fine. it's just that their republican elections officials, and so why would they vote to certify an election result? this is just kind of becoming the default republican position now. elections are inherently suspect, all of them. and you can't count on republican officials to certify those results. not everywhere, at least. in these three georgia counties, these republican officials were outvoted and the results were therefore certified. but georgia republicans are pretty clearly telegraphing their intentions for next year, when, you know, amid lots of other important things, the presidential race could very easily come down to a closely fought swing state like georgia. one county board refusing to certify its election results could throw the whole state and therefore the whole election into chaos. so good times. that's ahead. thanks, georgia. and simultaneously, we have also now got several suburbs north of atlanta that are in fulton county, georgia, but they no longer want fulton county to run their elections. these conservative leaning suburbs have declared they don't trust fulton county so they want to run their elections themselves as individual towns. they want to run them the way they did in the horse and buggy days. these towns want fulton county to take their fancy newfangled voting machines and, you know, put them where the sun doesn't shine. these towns are saying they will 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