mechanics headquarters in new york. word from the white house that a deal has been struck to extend the cease-fire, what does that mean for the hostages and what happens when this new timeline runs out? what the break in the fighting means for palestinians who have been enduring a nightmarish existence inside gaza. hundreds of aid trucks are headed in. will it even make a difference in the extraordinary humanitarian disaster. joining me this hour, the executive director of doctors without borders. in vermont a 48-year-old man has been arrested and arraigned after being accused of shooting three students of palestinian descent. his first words to the atf agent who came to arrest him, "i've been waiting for you." we start with the white house confirming the announcement that the cease-fire between hamas and israel will be extended for another two days. here is nsc's john kirby providing details less than an hour ago. >> in order to extend the pause hamas has committed to releasing another 20 women and children the next two days. we, of course, would hope to see the pause extended further. that will de pend on hamas continuing to release hostages. >> that's incredible news for the families of the roughly 180 hostages being held and hope for more releases. more scenes like we saw play out. extraordinarily emotional and joyful as dozens of women and children were reunited with their families and loved ones. among them 4-year-old abigail mor edan. she was freed on sunday as part of the third group of hostages released under the deal. according to an egyptian official, 11 more hostages are expected to be let go in the coming hours. that has not happened yet. if it does, lit bring the total number of israelis frees by hamas to 50 over the last four days. for some families, joy at seeing one relative released is mixed with the pain of knowing others remain captive. take, for example, 13-year-old released on saturday. her mother was not. >> we're still fighting. her sister and mother we want back. they promised they wouldn't release children without their mothers, but they did. >> i want to bring in nbc's aaron gilchrist covering the white house for us. aaron, the biden administration was actively involved in extending this truce. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: chris, the white house press briefing is still ongoing. the national security council spokesperson john kirby did offer a few more details of how the truce extension came together. as you noted, this truce extension is going to last for two days. admiral kirby did say that president biden has been -- as he has been through out the process, intimately involved in that as well. he spoke with the israeli prime minister yesterday. during that phone call we understand the two leaders spoke about extending this truce. the president himself saying on camera extending the truce was something he thought was a good idea, something he wanted to see happen. obviously the news today that that is the case. as far as today goes, we still have not seen that group of hostages released today. we learned from admiral kirby that there had been some issues with the lists, the lists of names -- the list of hostages released by hamas and list of prisoners released by israel. the issue today according to kirby is a matter of who is on the list. there was concern about two mothers in the group not being released along with their children. so that was something that needed to be worked out today. as we understand from admiral kirby, that has been worked out and we should start to see some movement on the ground at some point this afternoon. there's still the issue of the americans still being held and whether and when they'll be coming out. i want you to hear a little bit of what admiral kirby had to say about that during the briefing today. >> we're certainly hoping that another batch of hostages gets released today as part of the fourth and final day of the original agreement. we'll watch closely to see if any americans are in that group. as it's come out over the last three days, we don't really know until you get into the end game who is going to be on that list. even then, you've got to watch closely to see if who is on the list is actually who comes out. >> reporter: we've been told that the belief is there are two american women that would qualify to be released with the terms of the deal worked out and finalized last week. that's something we'll be watching for today. admiral kirby did, also, say there are seven other americans who remain unaccounted for, believed to be being held by hamas or some other group in gaza. the u.s. is continuing to work to get more people re, and men could eventually be in that group as well. >> i want to bring in aaron david miller, former arab negotiator. tall schneider is a political and diplomatic correspondent for the times of israel. aaron, a lot of people had hoped, particularly the families, loved ones, that that group today would have been released by now. some problems apparently with the list, making sure who is on it, who is not on it. is there anything worrisome in that some people may look at it and say it's not that many people, how complicated can it be? what's the holdup? >> first of all, you're dealing with two parties who are not in direct communication. the qataris are in the position of having to broken an agreement between a terrorist organization that seized on october 7th hundreds of israelis and other foreign nationals including americans. i think part of the problem, chris, is that hamas may actually not be in control of all the hostages. i think that's part of the problem. but i think if you look at the past three, four days, it's worked out every single time despite the combination. now we understand moving forward, assuming today's deal is consummated, that you'll see another two days of quiet in exchange for as many as 20 hostages. again, i think under these circumstances, the fact is hostages are coming back into israel and palestinian prisoners are being released. the proof in the pudding is actually working. >> tell us, tal, what you know about this extension and how it was worked out. >> so the extension was pre organized. in the beginning, four or five days ago, they said if things work, there will be an extension. the presumption here in israel is that hams want more than food or fuel. they want the days off. they're willing to do what they can to get as many days as they can get. we're expecting the group of 50 to be in israel, they're already being somewhat transferred, israel said, if we get a message until midnight -- this is four hours from now -- with the names of the next 20, then the deal is continuing. so that's going to be -- until the end of wednesday, i suppose. hamas obviously can release much more people. other than those people, they have 170, 180. they're just unwilling because they say every adult, no matter if he's 85 or 65 is a soldier. so they're unwilling to let those people go. some of them very sick. we saw today anal derly woman being escorted to a hospital, almost dying, and she is in critical condition as we speak. >> tal and aaron, if you'll stay with me, i want to bring in nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engel. richard, any idea when we might exchange to see this exchange begin today? >> reporter: i wish i could tell you. these things have been very hard to predict. it does seem like it's going ahead today. we're hearing no indications it won't take place today. there's not much of the day remaining. as you were discussing earlier, despite the difficulties, somehow this convoluted system going through qatar, going through egypt, negotiators, does seem to be working. after delays and a lot of discussion over who gets on the list, these israelis and other foreign nationals are ultimately being freed, and palestinian prisoners are being freed. we still have a little bit of time left. the big news at least today is it seems we'll have two more day days to get over the line or make more progress. even if today doesn't work, there's another chance to make it succeed. i'm not hearing any indications that things have fallen to the wayside today as of yet. >> we know going into this war, richard, prime minister netanyahu had extremely low approval ratings. he was blamed for what happened in the first place, why there wasn't more warning about that attack that was to come. what's your sense on the ground of whether these releases are helping the prime minister and, if so, might it be harder for him to reengage militarily if those hostages aren't all home? >> reporter: the fate of prime minister netanyahu is a much-discussed subject in this country right now. recent opinion polls show he's polling extraordinarily low, that many israelis were angry with him before october 7th and then completely lost patience with him after the 7th. some of the opinion polls put it well over two-thirds of israelis don't believe he should lead this country after the current crisis is over. whether he's hoping to turn things around is more of a subject of political speculation, and there's many israeli pundits trying to figure out what exactly prime minister netanyahu is trying to do, how he can possibly spin this to his advantage. there's very little about this that could be ever used to your advantage. israel looks extremely weak, having to negotiate with hamas. it looks extremely weak because it was attacked on october 7th and lost 1,200 people, more than 200 hostages. there's a lot of anger here and a lot of frustration. people are at this moment latching on to these little moments of hope which for families are extraordinaily transformative moments. they are starting to now bring their people back. they're starting to bring back children, children who on every street in this country you see their pictures. you can't drive a few blocks in tel aviv right now without seeing the photographs of the hostages on a billboard or stuck up against a wall on a poster. despite prime minister netanyahu's serious challenges and the frustration with him, at least with this deal they are starting to show some results, but at a tremendous cost. israel's err of invincibility has been punctured. the real question is where is this all going? i think israelis are starting to ask themselves that question. there are a few, maybe 11 hostages released tonight, props 20 over the next two days. but then what? buzz israel reengage with a full-scale military confrontation? does it reoccupy the gaza strip? if so, for how long does it impose some sort of pliable government that will cooperate with israel to manage the 2.3 million people in gaza? none of those questions have really been answered or ex-protective order in a public forum. >> richard engel, thank you for that. tal, let me pick up there. there's a deep, obviously, psychological and emotional component to this, anybody who is human on. obviously if you're a family member, obviously if you're jewish, to see these home comings and wonder if every hostage will have that opportunity including those in the military. so as this goes on and we see these joyful scenes of reunion, how much more difficult will it be for prime minister netanyahu to reengage militarily if they are not all released? >> so, yes, some of the imagine are very joyful. many of them are coming to the fact that they didn't know while they were appreciative that their parents were murdered. so it's joy with a lot of tears. i don't think netanyahu or any other leader at this time, who might be next, they have a huge israeli public support for continuing of the war because 180, 170 people are still captive and you can't let -- it's not enough to bring home 70 women and kids. we need to have every person who was taken from his house and his house was torched and was taken on saturday morning needs to come back home immediately. we saw in recent peaks that only the military pressure put hamas in a situation where they started to release those people. i think in khan younis they're holding the red-haired mother and two babies. a 10-month-old and 4-year-old, we learned the toddler and baby are held in khan younis. that's a different region in the southern part of gaza. israel didn't do any military incursion there. how can you get those people out if you don't put pressure on the leaders of this terrorist organization. >> tal and aaron, you're going to stick around and we'll bring you back later in the hour. up next, new details on the subject accused of shooting three college students of palestinian descent in vermont. we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in 60 seconds choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. the subway series? 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>> reporter: we got a better insight into how the investigation is unfolding. we know atf agents were canvassing the neighborhood where the shooting took place. they knocked on the door. they encountered a man who basically said, i need to see a lawyer, i've ben waiting for you. he decided to stop speaking, stop saying anything. they identified him as suspect jason eaton. they mentioned how they recovered ballistics at the scene of the shooting that matched a ruger, a 380 inside the apartment. they also found a 22 rifle and a shotgun. they were questioning him down there at the police station. again, as you said, the officials today during the press conference saying they're looking into whether this was a hate crime, but certainly a hateful act as the investigation is unfolding. we know students were wearing keffiyehs and speaking arab and english, in town visiting a relative for the thanksgiving holiday. at the news conference we heard from the uncle of one of those men, hisham awartani who we learned was shot from the spine and we've learned tragically may not be able to walk. take a listen to what he said. >> tragic irony is not even the right phrase. but to have them come stay with me for thanksgiving and have something like this happen speaks to the level of civic vitriol, speaks to the level of of hatred that exists. >> reporter: there was no bail for the subject. a bail hearing will be declared at a later date today. we're waiting to see what other action comes from this community as many, including family members, are still hoping this investigation will become a hate crime investigation. >> thank you so much, george. rob, what is going on right now to determine whether or not this gets charged as a hate crime? >> well, the big thing is, he didn't say anything when he shot them. we're getting that from witness statements. if he just went up and shot them, they'll have to go back and prove this is a hate crime, have to look at his social media, his phone, emails that may be out there to see if he was doing this for a purpose of hate towards their place of nationality. they can also look at, it's a conspiracy, too. if someone pushed him to it, if he was chatting back and forth and someone was online getting them enraged, they're also accountable under a federal hate crime. >> we heard merrick garland talking about the understandable fear there has been. we know there's been fear on college campuses. we've interviewed students saying, for example, jewish students, should i wear a yamaka because it makes me so easily identifiable. we know two of the students were wearing keffiyehs, the traditional palestinian scarves. if people are worried about the rise in anti-semitism, the rise in hateful behavior, hateful speech in general, is it not wise to wear things that many people want to, they want to identify with their heritage, they want to show people who they are. has that become too dangerous now? >> i think it has to a point. how would i talk to my children about it? proud of your religion, proud of your background, but sometimes you have to be smart and not go something that's going to bring attention to you. i just was consulting, the gentleman whose daughter is overseas, he's worried about it. she's jewish. we talked about all the different things they can do to bring that down. it's just not a time for it. i'd rather be safe and let things pass while the hate is out there. now you have one side doing something and you may have counter to that. i would advise it and i advise my children to do that. >> let me follow up with something my colleague erin mclaughlin heard, when she spoke with one of the victim's mothers about what had happened. take a listen. >> my husband thought he would be safe in the u.s., thought he would be safe in brown, safe in vermont. he's not going to places that we thought were unself. he didn't want him to come home for christmas because he thought this place is dangerous right now with the conflict. he didn't know what was going on. it's dangerous for us to travel between towns. it's dangerous for us to travel to the border to leave the country. the west bank outside of ramallah is a dangerous place. he wanted hisham to stay here. he's devastated, he believed his son was safe. >> does he regret that decision? >> yeah, he does. he does. >> a parent just trying to do the right thing. in what ways are or should local law enforcement, other officials in the law enforcement community be hooking at this? how do we increase awareness, or is it impossible to given that somebody can just come out of their apartment and potentially decide to shoot some college students? >> i think the lone wolf, the lone actor is always tough to predict. i think if law enforcement is out there, presence is always good, understanding it, listening to people when they say, hey, i think my neighbor is going to do something. finding out about it. i also talk about personal -- i tell people all the time now, don't walk around with your head down in your phone. have your head up, looking around, paying attention to other people that are out there, looking for people's intent. if you're walking around looking at your phone, you're not doing that. it's just a time to be safer. unfortunately it's like school shootings. what we're telling our kids to do was not normal five, ten, 15 years ago. it's, in fact, reality now. >> rob d'amico, thank you, with some good advice. much appreciated. inside the efforts to distribute the truckloads of humanitarian aid including some desperately needed fuel. plus what doctors on the ground say they need to keep people alive. i'll speak with the executive director of doctors without borders. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ng reports" only on msnbc tanium and ipad and apple watch se - all on us. only on verizon. sometimes your work shirt needs to be for more than just work. like when it needs to be a big soft shoulder to cry on. which is why downy does more to make clothes softer, fresher, and better. downy. breathe life into your laundry. 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>> thanks for having me. we have more than 300 staff who are there. they are palestinian staff. in addition to that we have about a dozen international staff that have rotated in. what they're telling us is these last few days have been a band-aid on a gushing wound. it's not nearly enough. i wouldn't call it a cease-fire as we heard earlier. this is a pause, a blip. it's birly enough to be able to recover from the setbacks we've had for weeks and weeks where we haven't been able to provision the hospitals. many of the staff are living without shelter themselves. they have been getting sick themselves. their family members have been dying. at least while there was this quiet time over the last few days, we were able to evacuate some of our staff and their families from the north to the south who previously had come under fire as part of evacuation, groups and convoys that should never have been targeted. now we're in this phase where we're just bracing ourselves and dreading -- profoundly dreading the return of the all-out hold no bar kind of war which is so appalling and which has tarred so many civilians as we've seen. >> david reported that a lot of what is coming in -- besides we heard there was cooking fuel, but also food, water, baby formula, all incredibly important things. but in terms of being able to actually treat patients, in terms of whatever medical setups still exist, what do doctors and other personnel need most? what is your hope of getting it there? >> we need just about everything, of course. the hospitals need a continuous source of electricity. this is why there's been such a consistent call of fuel to be provided, for the generators to be able to function. they need clean water for the infection control and sanitation, and they need all kinds of medication and medical supplies. just to give you an example, we are treating a lot of burn injuries from explosions. those injuries require very specialized kinds of dressings for burns. the shelves are bare. although we welcome the fact that some of the trucks have been able to come in, some of the shelves are being restocked. it's not like we're in a situation of an amazon fulfillment center here where everything is possible to be delivered where it needs to go within 24 hours. we will need a proper cease-fire to be able to even catch up to all the needs that are there for the medical cases. we're asking, also, for the possibility to evacuate more and more patients to third countries where they can continue their care, receive the care they really needed. more advanced surgery, for example and, of course, have the right of return if they so wish. that's certainly something we need in the coming days with a proper cease-fire. >> we know there's been this extension. we hope it holds. benjamin netanyahu has made it clear that the war will resume, that they are going to continue the fight until hamas is eliminated. is there anything your staff is doing or can be doing on the ground to prepare for what looks like an inevitability? >> well, the horrifying thing is that we have consistently seen with this indiscriminate attacks on civilian infrastructures that our physicians, our nurses are being killed while on duty while treating patients. this is something that has been so repeated, and not just attacks on hospitals and clinics, but also on ambulances, that we're just bracing ourselves for the worst. essentially we are being asked by all parties here to scale up, to do more, to provide more assistance at a time when our own staff, the medical community at large is being killed every single day when the war resumes. that's the part where we are calling for international humanitarian law to be respected, not just in words, with warnings here and there, but with real actions. just stop targeting civilians, stop targeting hospitals, medical staff and patients. >> i have to say, i follow as closely as i can updates on your website which is excellent, and people who want to learn more about exactly what's going on, i recommend it to them. avril benoit, thank you, and thanks to all the folks who are working under extraordinarily dangerous and difficult conditions. we appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead, the emotional reunions as freed hostages see their families for the first time in seven weeks. what we know about the roughly 180 hostages still being held in gaza and what's being done to track them down? 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>> a diplomatic end right now in the next -- between now and the end of the year, let's say another month or so? i'd put the prospects of a negotiated settlement that would lead to a permanent cease-fire as less than 10% if that. i think i'm betting the long odds there. i don't think between now and the end of the year that we can expect little more than a lot of maneuvering on the part of hamas, again, to buy time, hoping that the pressure on the netanyahu government from just about everybody, including the united states, will increase because of the need to free people. i think the israelis have not departed at all from their objective. two objectives, number one, destroy hamas' military infrastructure above and below ground and kill their senior leadership. that is the israeli objective. to settle for anything less than that, to allow hamas basically to have a cease-fire and to be standing, maybe even to launch rockets on the day before the cease-fire is declared would be a huge defeat for the israeli government, for israel and i think a victory -- i don't think, i know, for hamas. remember hamas has stocked those up with the more palestinian prisoners are released. they're getting a double bonus. they're buying time and freeing their own. >> aaron david miller, thank you for that. meantime i want to go to a briefing by the idf spokesman, rear admiral daniel hagari who just said nothing is finalized until it happens. let's listen in. >> -- or to cory on with the next stages of the war. we extend quick and speedy recovery who returned in a difficult situation from hamas captivity yesterday. she's an 84-year-old woman, a grandmother, two grandchildren, two great grand chilleder, abducted on a motorcycle, held in difficult conditions without access to lifesaving medication. as we're speaking, the medical team is fighting for her life despied dozens of engineered videos and footage, cannot conceal hamas, the responsibility of all the hostages. a group held by another faction, is the exclusive responsibility of hamas. all the international organizations must put in all their weight to demand access to the hostages in gaza. as we are speaking, we are continuing the efforts to continue to carry out the outline led by egypt and qatar, we're committed to its execution over the next few days in order to bring back additional hostages our troops and combatants in gaza are all deployed and prepared for the next stages of the war. they go out for some respite time outside the gaza strip in rounds in order to rest and train and to improve their preparedness for the continuation of the war. we are making sure all the equipment is ready. we're determined to once again resume and deepen our achievements from the battlefield as we consider two goals, bringing back the hostages and dismantling hamas. now ed' like to switch to english, please. >> during the hamas massacre of october 7th, ilma was tas en hostage, dragged into gaza on the back of a motor bike. she was in apples activity for 51 days and nights. she was kept in a harsh condition. she was denied lifesaving medication. she was not visited by the red cross. when she was released from captivity she was in critical condition. elma is a reminder of our critical mission. now she's home. she's being taken care of. but who is taking care of other hostages in gaza? over 150 of our hostages, men, women -- >> we'll continue to listen in to daniel hagari, the spokesman for the idf, talking in particular about an 84-year-old hostage who was released, the difficulties facing her, the difficulties facing all of the hostages. we know some of them have stayed in hospital as they struggle. they have not yet been able to go home and be reunited with their families there. back with us is tal schneider, political and diplomatic correspondent for "the times of israel." it's clear, we heard it from a government spokesman earlier today, now from daniel hagari, and we were just talking about this with aaron david miller. there has been absolutely no change in the israeli position, has there, since day one? and that has been we're in this war until hamas is eliminated. >> right, that's true. as you probably know, in the past during cease-fires or any kind of an international arrangement, hamas shot rockets and kidnapped soldiers during a cease-fire. so there's no point in negotiating any kind of a final situation here when you know that once you're done, they're going to be back at shooting -- bombarding rockets all over israel and taking more people. this is like a vicious circle. we are unable to get out of this vicious circle when you have a terror organization controlling 2 million people. they are treating their own people -- they're using them as human shields. now they're using israeli citizens as human shields. we are really unable to get out of this vicious cycle since 2005, since israel left gaza strip, military left gaza strip and and also evacuated all of its citizens from there. so, i mean, when you're looking at the prospects of any type of cease fire and negotiation, this is really an untrustworthy partner for anything. >> tal schneider, it's been good to have your expertise on the show. thank you so much for being with us. meantime, the pressure is building on capitol hill for a new foreign aid package. senator schumer told colleagues in a letter he intends to bring president biden'$1 billion supplemental package for israel, ukraine and the borde tthe floor for a vote next week, while urging democrats to help push for a bipartisan path forward. he also blamed republicans for injecting a decades old hyperpartisan issue into overwhelmingly bipartisan priorities. the republican-led house has passed an aid bill for israel but does include massive cuts to the irs and excludes humanitarian assistance, a nonstarter for the white house and senate democrats. joining us, jake sherman, an msnbc political contributor. where do things stand? what are we watching for that might indicate what happens when this all comes to a vote? >> a few things, and i'll start with this. number one, if the senate passes this folsom supplemental package, which includes ukraine, taiwan, and israel, it will go nowhere in the house of representatives. speaker mike johnson said publicly he's reiterated to the white house and senate leaders. that, we would have to put on the side. i will say this, in a sign of hope for supporters of more money to ukraine, mike johnson just a couple of hours ago in florida, in sarasota, florida, where he held a press conference this morning, basically sounded as bullish on ukraine funding as supportive of ukraine funding that i have ever heard him in my time covering him or covering house republicans. he basically said we have to do this, we have to pass ukraine money. we have to tie it to a border package, which is going to be incredibly difficult as we all know. immigration politics is incredibly difficult. this is out of line with the vast majority, not the vast majority but the narrow majority of house republicans. it would be seen as a good sign at the white house, and among democrats and ukraine supporting republicans on capitol hill. so a good sign, again, for ukraine aid supporters. >> do you have any idea, jake, where that's coming from, and is there some growing level of concern among lawmakers about what will happen if this conversation, if getting this done extends through december? >> reporter: i think there is concern. i think there's concern among supporters of aid to ukraine that the longer this goes on, the less likely it becomes. think about it, chris, you get into the new year, you're dealing with the government funding deadline, january 19th and again in early february. if that gets wrapped into those discussions, it becomes more and more difficult. the idea was to separate it out and have it stand on its own. i will say this. this is a big problem combining israel, ukraine and taiwan would be a big problem for the house of representatives, which wants to move israel on its own. mike johnson moved the israel aid with cuts to the irs, something that's not palatable in the democratic senate or at the white house. this is right now kind of in a log jam as many things on capitol hill end up being. but just the support, the public support for ukraine funding is something that is very notable from speaker mike johnson who has been, let's say, very cognizant of criticism on his right. >> can you help us understand in our closing minutes what the time line is here because what we saw with the overall government funding was let's kick the can down the road, right? in a sense, you can't really kick the can down the road if israel and ukraine need this -- if this funding needs to get done. i guess the reality is holidays are coming up faster than we would like to admit. how much time are they actually going to be there in washington? >> those are really good questions, and number one, mike turner said yesterday on "meet the press" that this would be an issue that they tackle in 2024. mike johnson on today in florida, these are conversations that are happening right now, negotiations that are happening in earnest in his words, right now, imminently, so mike johnson seems to be signaling, and he said, we understand there are deadlines so what he seems to be indicating is that this is immediate, it's urgent, and he understands that. >> jake sherman, always great to see you, thank you so much. and still to come in our next hour of "chris jansing reports," more on efforts to extend the truce between israel and hamas beyond today. stay with us. mas beyond today stay with us blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. 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