richard louis in for yasmin vossoughian. the state, the breaking as we are following for you right now. day two of the israel hamas truth, and the mauve delaying the second release of hostages from gaza. the reason, well, they are saying slow movement of eight from the gaza that was part of the agreement for this truth, and exchange of hostages for prisoners's life. , so and a two of the implementation of this agreement, cracks begin to be showing. all the start to the framework that calls for the release of dozens -- captives, among those saw waiting for police, several americans, who president biden is vowing are a top priority. >> we also remember all those who are still being held. the to renew our community to work for those as. well to american women, and 14-year-old child, abigail, who remains among those missing. we have also not stop until we get all those hostages home in answer to their whereabouts. we don't know, we don't have a list of where the hospital judges are rather be the release, but we have a number of -- also, it's my hope and expectation very soon. >> since friday, or day one of this truce, we have seen emotional reunions, with loved ones, who have not seen or heard from them since the october 7th hamas attack. including a nine year old boy, reunited with his family. >> what is a good shape for a nine year old after being in some prison cell for nine months? the way i see it, it's exactly where they should be. under the circumstances. okay? so, we have to give them time, of course, but we are optimistic and a lot of love and a lot of patience. they will recuperate and come to terms with the reality that's happened. >> we start our breaking news coverage this hour with hamas, announcing a delay in the release of more hostages, accusing israel of violating key terms of the agreement. let's get right to nbc news correspondent, david moore yay, got on the ground in jerusalem for us. david, i understand you just got in some news from the qataris on this standoff that we're seeing at this hour. >> yeah, richard. that's right. big development from just the last couple of minutes. a spokesperson for the qatari foreign ministry has released a public statement saying the release of hostages is back on. they say but diplomatic efforts by qatar and egypt have persuaded hamas to release the agreed upon hostages. i should say we also got a statement to that effect directly from dr. boston 19. a member of hamas leadership, he is also saying the release is back on. he is also crediting diplomatic efforts by qatar and egypt. according to the statement from the qatari foreign ministry, we are looking at 13 israeli hostage release for 49 palestinian prisoners society. saw last night. again, not counting the, of course, 11 time tie in filipino hostages that were released in addition to the 15th israeli hostages. so, we still haven't heard from the israeli side. we are waiting for a press conference to start from the idf. we may hear confirmation from them, but we really staff from those two sources, as of right now, that the release is back on. things are changing quickly, this is very fluid, but that is the information we have for the time being. for sure? >> yes, it's been very clear through your reporting and others here, dave, with that this deal is quite fragile. it is day to day, and just hours ago, dig down for us in terms of what we understood as to why we haven't seen this exchange happen at this late hour they are in israel and gaza? >> right. so, what we understand about why that delay happened came from the hamas side. they were saying that israel had failed to abide by a couple of specific points on its side of the commitment to the agreement, specifically, they said israel had not allow the passage of enough aid trucks into gaza. they say a number of aid trucks was less than the amount of that had been agreed upon. they also said that israel had not abide by the terms of the release of prisoners from israeli prisons. palestinian prisoners, from israeli prisons. they say the agreement was that the prisoners would be released according to how long they have been in prison, and they had left in person some people who had been imprisoned for many years, and instead released some people who had prison in prison for only months. those were the sort of finer points of what hamas was saying previously, had delayed this release. but again, now, hasse saying the release is back on. for sure? >> hamas is saying the released is back on. through the qataris as well, we are hearing this at this hour. was there any concern, as we looked at this, that this deal, because of the delay today, it could have fallen through? we are only on date through of two of this truce. >> concerned, yes, for short, richard. the attitude that people here in israel and people in the west bank wife and talking to have about this agreement in general is that nothing is real until we actually see it happen, right? the hostages not released until we actually see them in israeli custody, and prisoners not released until we see them, you know, on the streets of the west bank. this is very minute by minute. everything, there are all sorts of expectations, but it's extremely delicate type of walk that the general sense is it could fall apart at any moment. i will say, just having been reporting on this from the ground for the last several days, tonight was the first moment. that was the first moment where it really felt like things were going off track, and another thing goes up attracting entire time, but again, you know, i just want to restate, we are hearing from a member of hamas leadership. doctor balsam 19, and your hearing from the qatari foreign ministry that for, now things are back on track. >> that contract,, so is assumes, then, that becomes we have before have been alleviated in some way and we don't have any information on the alleviation of those concerns. for instance, the hundreds of trucks that were supposedly going to be moving into gaza each and every day. is that correct? >> that's exactly correct. there's some wording in the statement we received from this member of hamas leadership that says they recognize a commitment from the israeli side to be agreed upon turns. what the exact details of that commitments are? it's not clear at this moment. richard? >> david, standby. we're going to bring in jeremy bash, who served as chief of doubles the director of the cia in the secretary of defense during the at biden administration. jeremy, great to have you on this. so, we just got in the news, right before you came on air, we want to get your perspective on this. getting courts from hamas, and the qataris, that this will move forward. we did not get any more detail about why that decision, or by that statement now, has shifted at this hour. your reflection on what we know right now? >> [muted] >> i think you may be muted, jeremy. i don't know if you could hear that but for us? >> sorry. and back. nobody is going to give hamas's words, the american government is only going to give credit to hamas's actions. so, it's actions will speak, as opposed to its claim versus our claims. so, i think the united states and israel, together with americas key partners in the region, qatar, egypt, jordan, and others, are going to really be judging hamas, whether they live up to their end of this agreement, and whether or not the stes come out on the schedule, but also whether or not the teational community, for the d cross, is able to visit e hostages. let's not forget, richard, there are more than 200 hostages that emain, even after today's release. among them are 11 american hostages. i just want to say their first names. soggy, eta, he, omer, hirsch, keith, adrian, got the, judith, lee, out and four year old abigail. the american people cannot, should not, and we'll not forget that 11 americans will remain in hamas captivity, even after today's release. >> when we had heard that this may have been delayed, and you heard us discuss this with david, it's how fragile is it right now? given that we, at the moment, had switched as we were just talking about, ten minutes, and now now we're back. on how fragile do you believe this is? are we gonna make it today for? >> look, i have confidence, because i think both sides are incentivized to follow through with this agreement. for israel, it's important to keep faith with their people, who want the reunification to happen. it's unprecedented in the history of israel, i would argue, even in the history of modern conflict, to have more than 200 civilian casualties, women, children, babies, the elderly, holocaust survivors, disabled, it's never happened. so, israel is highly motivated to bring these people home. it was a very emotional reunion yesterday, we saw with the first group. hamas is also incentivize because, of, course they gain the ability to re-arm, to regroup, to reposition, to gain access to fuel. so, they get to dig in for the coming war that they're planning as well. and so, this is two sides that will remain at war, but they are incentivized to have this moment of troops, to have these hostages come out. >> jeremy, standby. we're gonna go to allie raffa at the white house. ali, you've been reporting all day here that this president, president biden, has been very involved in the negotiations of getting to this report six page agreement that they are now trying to satisfy. both sides are, at the moment. and do we know anything, in terms of how this was off and now back on, in terms of the white house, what the president, may have done or not done? >> yeah, richard. well, you reach out to a white house, as well as the national security council officials, in the wake of the news about this delay by hamas. then, this news from qatari officials that this deal was back on. we still have not received any reaction or response from those officials, but we did hear this morning from a senior u.s. official that the president has spoke multiple times yesterday by his security advisor. those things were continuing this morning, so, it's safe to assume those conversations and those updates are being given to the president as they were happening this afternoon. but this hour-long delay, richard, was undoubtedly disappointing for not just u.s. officials, but also, officials of other governments who also have hostages continuing to be held by hamas, as it injected doubts about the next steps about this multi day cease-fire. and it underscores just how fragile and sensitive this deal is. that is something the president and u.s. officials have been saying for weeks now, as these painstaking the goshen's continue. something the president himself talked yesterday about as the steel was announced in its first phase was coming to correction, talking about his behind the scenes diplomatic conversations with the leaders of israel, qatar, egypt, trying to get some sort of deal underway to facilitate this broader release of all hostages. the president talking yesterday about that, saying he still has hope that americans will be among the hostages released as part of this multi day cease-fire, according to these qatari mediators, it seems americans will not be included in today's, as they say, that the hamas will release 13 israelis and seven foreigners in exchange for 39 palestinians. but the president and u.s. officials continue to say they are hopeful that americans will be included as part of this multi day deal. they don't have any indication as to why americans wouldn't be included in that, considering remember, the first sausages we did see hamas release were an american mother and daughter. they were released two weeks after this war began. a senior administration official said this morning that that gives them hope. that that was the first step of more to come. they say quote, the president secured the release of two american citizens as the pilot to this larger release of hostages. a early in the process that we'll see at least 50 won and children released during the first phase ofhe agreement. we are hopeful that will include three dual national women and children who are american citizens, referring to two u.s. women, as well as a four year old girl. so, a lot of progress, certainly, to celebrate so far. but still a long way to go, and, again the president and u.s. officials continue to say they are optimistic that americans will be included in that. richard? >> the very latest from the white house. allie raffa, thank you for that reporting. jeremy bash still with us. going to take short break, jeremy will join us to get analysis on what we've just learned from allie raffa, and david noriega, they are in israel. we will be right back. we will be right back. welcome back to msnbc with breaking news here, for just joining us this hour, the breaking news at this moment in terms of hamas and israel, and the exchange for prisoners for hostages. that was largely delayed throughout the entire day. until the top of this hour, where we learn from a statement from qatari officials but both qatar, as well as hamas, are saying they believe that most likely, and we're being very careful, because this statement has just come out, that it will continue that the hostages that were listed and, given yesterday, through qatar to officials, idf, of the names will be happening. they believe it will be happening. that's the statement fromqatar from our reporting, david moraga, i'm also saying the same thing. jeremy bash still with us. jeremy, you've had a moment to think through, when you saw the reporting from l.a. rough on this and the president being very much involved. in the negotiations to get through this six-page agreement of the wall street journal is saying was put together in the end. way back and forth, this is something you are very much experienced in. the back and forth, not behind the scenes work on this agreement. what is your reflection now on what we might see for the rest of today? >> look, i think it's concerning from the perspective of the united states that americans were not included in the first two rounds of prisoner releases. the white house has clearly telegraphed that it's their expectation that to women, to american women, adrian and liat, as well as baby abigail, will be in this first group of 50. i think the tough implication there is the other eight americans will not be released. , so it's going to be incumbent upon the white house and i know they are very focused on this, to stay resolutely focused on getting all americans out of hamas custody. by the way, we should say at the outset here that despite this back and forth between hamas and israel, there is absolutely nothing preventing hamas from just releasing all 240 hostages. they could do that tomorrow. there is nothing preventing them from doing that. now, they've decided they want to meters this out and gain days of quiet, and they will have an opportunity to do so. in fact, i think they will probably be in the driver seat once they really sausages, they will gain cease-fire days. so, that works to hamas's advantage. but the united states government together with our allies in the region, including israel, are going to continue focusing on getting all the hostages at home safely. >> going forward, as we have just heard the statement from qatari officials, how important is egypt? how important is qatar in making sure that all of the americans, all of the hostages are released going forward? it is clear the relationship between hamas and qatar is not a simple one. but it is necessary during this process. >> -- seems to have the best channel with hamas leadership, because i must've pockets reside in doha, qatar. and tomas has brokered many cease-fires. they have been involved in mediation for the better part of 15 years. israel left the gaza strip in 2005. we've been saying this all throughout this crisis, but it's important to reiterate. israel has not been in gaza. israel does not control gaza. israel has not had military presence in gaza. so, qatar has played a role, egypt has played a role, egypt, by the, way has that continuous land border with gaza strip. eta egypt controlled the gaza strip between 1950 and 1967. when we talk about the day after, the future governments of the gaza strip, how to ensure there is security for israel and for u.s. interest in the region. egypt is going to have to play a major role, as our other arab countries there in the middle east. >> talking about egypt and being attached or connected to gaza strip, we have live pictures here from the rafah border crossing. which we do expect, happens as the qataris and hamas are saying when the hostages are released, they will come through this very crossing that we saw yesterday, jeremy. jeremy, as we are moving forward, day five is a possibility. idf saying if more hostages are released, there could be an additional day of quiet. additional day of truce. what needs to happen right now to broker date five? to broker that possibility of extending this fight period? >> that's a great question, richard. i think the most important thing are these international community for red cross visitation rights to validate that the hostages are where we think they are, that they are in good health, that first of, all that they are alive. we actually haven't gotten confirmation that all 11 americans are even alive at this moment. hersh goldberg cohen has, i think, as the viewers know as an american who was previously wounded. his arm is blown off by a grenade thrown by hamas terrorists. when he was after that the music festival, we don't know if he survived those wounds, if he's alive. the red cross needs to visit him and tell the world, community that he's alive and where he is. this is the worst hostage crisis that has faced the united states since the 1970s, since u.s. diplomats were in tehran, but at that time, those were grown adults. those were u.s. government officials. those were in a facility, where we knew where they were. we knew their names. i think the most important thing that we need right now, richard answer, your questions, we need information. information about the whereabouts and the well-being of the americans and all the hostages, from 30 nationalities, jewish and christian and other religions and nationalities, from 30 countries. we need to know where they are. we need to know that they're well. hamas needs to grant that information to the united states and to israel, so that if there's going to be further exchanges and further cease-fires, beyond this four-day period, it can be done based on solid information and solid, factual basis. >> the sum of snow, actually, the number of hostages that have been taken, that are in their custody? and what about the other malicious that have also potentially taken hostages during this period? how does the united states, such as israel and the idf, handle that? >> if hamas doesn't know, it's willful blindness. it's a maligned blindness, meaning they can know. they are the government. they are the authority in the gaza strip. if control of the gaza strip, since 2007. they're not just a bunch of ragtag people on the back of a pick up truck, who just rolled into town. they have been in control, 100% of the gaza strip, since 2007. if they want to find out, they can find out. they could force law and order, that suits their purposes. they gain access to information inside gaza, for -- purposes. they control the territory, and they control the information. so, if they wanted to find out, if they want to make clear is their number one priority to know the whereabouts of the well-being of every single one of the 240 hostages, including 11 americans, that could do that tomorrow. now, they might have to expensive political capital. they might have to contain some of the other terrorist groups inside the gaza s