with one source familiar tell nbc news that it is all up to israel right now. that there is a tentative deal in place, which is just waiting on sign off from prime minister netanyahu. we have the details on who would be freed and on what conditions in a moment. after all, it would be a major milestone in this now seven-week war and one that could steer the conflict into a new phase. as we speak, netanyahu is said to be in a sequence of meetings with cabinet ministers waiting on a vote from those ministers. there's also context on why the deal is so close right now. yesterday, netanyahu faced serious pressure from hostage families to make their loved ones a first, not second, priority of this war. we have the details on that tense meeting. his first by the way, along with a shouting match in israel's parliament as a far right minister tried to shutdown pleas from a man whose cousin was kidnapped. let's sort out what we know now. joining us from tel aviv is raf sanchez. let's start with this hostage deal. i understand there are new details. what are they? >> we just spoke to a senior israeli official and this is the first time we are hearing from the israeli government about this tentative agreement that as we speak is being considered by the israeli cabinet. 50 hostages, womenchilen, released over four days in exchange for a four-day cease fire and israel agreeing to release 150 palestinian women and chire from israeli prisons. this senior official telling nbc news a number of mechanisms and a lot of detail about this deal that we did not know before. for starters, katy, there is an option to extend this deal beyond the initial 50 hostages. this official tells us that if hamas releases an additional ten hostages, they will get an additional day of cease fire and this official says that could continue indefinitely. they say israel is skeptical and they will watch and see whether or not hamas delivers on these first 50, but there is the option to extend this deal further. this official also telling nbc news israel is not negotiating on behalf of the nonisraeli hostages. they say israel will only release palestinian prisoners in exchange for israeli citizens. now, that does include dual nationals and this official is quick to point out that most of the americans being held in gaza now are dual u.s. israeli nationals so they would be covered by these israeli negotiations. this official also pointing out that under israeli law that the victims of terrorism have the option to appeal to the israeli supreme court to block the release of palestinians involved in those crimes. so any deal which could be approved tonight could only go into effect at the earliest tomorrow once that 24 hour period has passed. this official says look, the supreme court has never stepped in before to derail one of these high stakes negotiations, but it's possible it could happen this time. the official says of those 150 palestinian prisoners who israel is prepared to release as part of this deal, none of them directly killed israelis themselves. their convictions are for things like carrying explosives to the scene of an attack or driving attackers. >> let me ask you about the deal in terms of the cease fire. what that would encompass as far as we know right now. >> so, four-day cease fire. both sides agreeing to essentially freeze their military positions. these deals are hard to negotiate. they can be even harder to uphold because we have a situation where not far from where we are now, there were thousands of israeli troops inside of gaza city just streets way by from fighters from both hamas and palestinian islamic jihad, so making sure those forces donn fi on each other and collapse the deal will be complicat. this official also says israel has agreed to suspend overhead drone flights for a certain number of hours each day over gaza. that is to give hamas the confidence that they can move around and gather these hostages who are being held in a number of different locations across gaza without being trapped by israeli drones. so a lot of moving parts here, katy, including the role of the red cross who we expect would be the ones taking these hostages from hamas custody over the border and returning them to israel. >> raf, thank you so much. joining us now is eamon. you've been involved in the reporting surrounding this deal. what has it taken to get to this point? >> a lot. a lot of very delicate negotiations. a little bit of confidence building measure. a lot of difficult communications. some of the negotiations taking place from hamas' side require communications between its exiled political hero which is in doha and its military wng in gaza. some of the responses have been logistical. but because there are so many moving parts to it, it has been nearly impossible to get everybody on the same page. >> how much has the u.s. been involved? >> substantially involved. it has been involved in it from day one. the united states has tremendous amount of leverage with israel. it has an amazing relationship with qatar, excellent relationship with egypt. it does not have a relationship with hamas. qatar has been the intermediary for the most part. the u.s. has brought a lot of both diplomatic pressure. it has also offered to try as much as it can to ensure successful cease fire. logistically. there are some questions as to whether or not the border between egypt and gaza can sustain 300 to 400 trucks every day. so that is a logistical undertaking that the united states -- >> why? >> it was never built as a passage, terminal passage f big container trucks. they want toensure everything that goes in is secured, doesn't have weapons in it, doesn't have anything that can be used in conflict. so the humanitarian part of getting trucks and food into gaza was normally done through the israeli side. it was done through multiple borders because israel had the capacity and a longer border to do that. the border between egypt and gaza was mostly for foot traffic and occasionally small cars. now you're talking about overhauling it. >> from your reporting, what does hamas think they're going to be getting out of this? why would hamas have any desire to release hostages? what's their incentive? >> that's a good question. some of the statements they've made publicly. two of their leaders spoke a short while ago. held a press conference in beirut. they didn't speak about the hostage deal, but they have been talking about their, the strength of their people being able to withstand days of this heavy bombardment and still not capitulating. just being able to survive and withstand is a victory. having these conversations about what has been achiere a it's still very early to say there's been anything achieved. once the hostages are released, that's going to be a huge relief for the families but for the palestinians inside gaza, a third of the gaza strip, 46% of homes. 5,000 children. the unicef saying it's a horrific milestone. it is hard to assess what they calculate as being the gain in all of this. >> are you hearing push from within gaza for hamas to surrender? stop doing this and bombardment will stop? >> to be fair, i haven't had a chance to speak with anyone on that capacity because communications are so difficult. so limited. i can assure you that conversation is happening in broader palestinian circles and sometimes, the further removed you are away from the conflict, the tone of the discussion is very different. palestinians are questioning what is the price that palestinians in gaza have had to pay for everything since october 7th. for what hamas did. that is one of the strategic objectives of israel has been to make the price of october 7th so costly for palestinians that they reconsider and we know that from previous wars that israel has gone into with hezbollah for example in 2006. the leader of hezbollah famously said had he known the price lebanon was going to pay for what started the war in 2006, he would have recalibrated the capturing of israeli soldiers. i think that discussion will take place among palestinian society and organizations in weeks to come. >> thanks so much for coming on. always appreciate you talking about your reporting. appreciate it. joining us now, independent journalist who's been covering the con fligt for decades. let's talk about benjamin netanyahu and why he would be in a position or a mood to negotiate on the hostages right now. >> well, he's been blasted for failing to bring basically any hostages out over the last now seven weeks of war. we're in the seventh week of war. and yesterday as you described was really a disgraceful day in which his own ministers and members of his coalition attacked families of hostages. they represent a small minority point of view, but they have the platform in parliament. there's just a general feeling that something had to give. but i have to underscore that this is a deal right now we're talking about the release of about 50 hostages as raf said out of 240. and so what we're really talking about is a sort of capitulation in which the israeli government is accepting that for the next x number of days, hamas is going to dangle before it, we're going to now release three more, four more. and this can go on for numerous, numerous days and the israeli government is going to be crushed into a position where either it capitulates into hamas' demand. hamas is interested in a truce or the israeli government will have to face those remaining families and say to them we are resuming bombing. we're resuming destroying gaza and we know your relatives are there. >> that's an interesting or difficult choice they're going to have to make. let me play that moment you referred to where some of the members of netanyahu's far right coalition started screaming down hostage family members yesterday. we have that video. let's play it. video let's play it. explain what we just saw. >> what we just saw is an almost indescribable scene in which the minister of national security of israel, the minister in charge of police who is a right wing rouzier who's never before held public office until netanyahu gave him this job. a man convicted of terror associations in the past is screaming. as you saw family members holding up posters of their loved ones who are hostages in gaza and he's basically saying to them you don't have a monopoly on pain. you're not going to tell us what to do. the context of that hearing is that he proposed introducing into israel a death penalty for terrorists. israel does not have a death penalty at the moment. this is hugely controversial and the families feel that puts the lives of their loved ones in danger. >> thank you very much. coming up next, what does it mean for the next stage of the war if 50 hostages are released? 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(vo) it's your vision, it's your verizon. thank you for being with us. what do you know about this hostage deal? >> it's probably one of the hardest decisions any government has to make. how do you say no to the release of 50 women, children, old people. the families have been in indescribable pain for the last almost two months now. that goes without saying. on the other hand, we've now created a precedent of a cease fire. hamas needs a cease fire. hamas, they win. they get away with mass murder. they survive. it means the 250,000 israelis who have been evacuated can't go back. if you have kids, would you go back knowing hamas is reorganizing? it means the whole process starts over again and we've lost 62 soldiers. have to go to those families and say hey, your kids may have died for nothing. then as the terrorists are going to get released from prisons and families are going to appeal to the supreme court and say you can't do this. what about my family. and at the end of the day, there's actually no good decision. i don't know the actual decision making process. i think the sense is that hamas may drag this out. after four days of the cease fire, well, we gave you 15, 20. we can't locate the others. let's have another five days. hamas is not an honest broker, negotiator. it's done this repeatedly in the past. so it's full of dangers. full of risk. at the end of the day, i don't think the israeli government could look those families in the eye and say your kids aren't coming home. >> netanyahu hasn't been looking them in the eye until yesterday. there's been a lot of criticism of him. his political future hinges very much on what is happening right now. there are some that say he's got no political future and there are some that are arguing that all of his decisions are complicated by his desire to stay in office and stay out of prison. >> does he have a political future? probably not. does he believe he does? he does. will he fight it? probably. nobody knows right now. you know, in israel, people take responsibility. i don't think anybody resigned after pearl harbor, after 9/11. in israel, can't get away with that. so the chief of staff has come out and said i take responsibility. the head of military intelligence, i take responsibility. the head of fbi, i take responsibility, which is really code for when this is over, 'm going to resign. netanyahu hasn't done that. he's only said there's going to be hard questions. i think he's going to put up a fight and could resign. we don't know. right now, everyone's focused on the war, on this hostage deal and the pain of the hostage deal and the danger of the deal. >> what's it look like if these hostages are released? potentially more? what does the war like after that? thousands are dead. the north is uninhabitable and there's bombings starting in the south. what happens after this? >> i think one thing, they're going to drag it out as far as possible. hamas can't release all of the hostages. let's game this out. hamas release all the hostages and fighting resumes, israel's going to flood those tunnels. that's what you do if you're fighting an enemy that has 300 miles of tunnels beneath the surface and you can't get in. we've lost many soldiers just trying to get into the openings of these tunnels. so the hostages are the ultimate human shields. for hamas, a last get out of gaza free card. house is completely surrounded and it has no other options. they'll say okay, we'll give you those hostages but let us have free passage out of here because that's what they did in 1982. so there's a precedent for that. but let's be clear about this. the only reason hamas is negotiating is because israel went into that gaza strip and forced it to negotiate. without that pressure, we wouldn't be having this discussion. >> ambassador, really good to have you in person. hopefully today some good news in this ongoing horror we've been watching unfold. >> coming up, one of donald trump's codefendants could be thrown back in jail. what d.a. fani willis says harrison floyd did to intimidate witnesses. harrison floyd did to intimidate witnesses. 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