claim provides evidence hamas headquarters is under al-shifa, a claim nbc news has not verified. secretary blinken says the u.s. does have intelligence similar to israel's. >> we have our own information that command and control nodes are located either in or under hospitals. there are several of them. this is something that's really monstrous. >> this as families mourn the loss of two israeli hostages found dead in the last 48 hours. secret talks continue to try to secure a larger hostage release. momentum is building for the house to expel republican congressman george santos after a scathing and unanimous report from the bipartisan house ethics committee. i will speak to anthony deesposito, a leading republican lawmaker who is calling for him to be ousted. bin laden goes viral. propaganda written decades ago spreading across social media. ♪♪ good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the israeli military is warning it will head south, claiming the idf is close to dismantling the military system in northern gaza. the south is where most took refuge on israeli orderers, and is under another communication blackout. special forces are inside or laying siege to several hospitals in gaza, including al-shifa where the idf claims it found a tunnel entrance. nbc news cannot independently verify that. there's no evidence that a hamas command and control center exists below the hospital, a claim israeli and u.s. officials have been making. hamas and doctors at the hospital forcefully deny. one grandmother was fighting cancer, the second an idf soldier were found. secretary of state blinken telling this to nbc's lester holt about a potential hostage deal. >> we are working this incessantly. i remain hopeful. the less said the better. >> in the west bank, medics were seen running from a hospital where israel says gunmen are hiding after clashes in a refugee camp. we start with erin mclaughlin. erin, you spoke with a doctor who is inside al-shifa. what did he or she say the situation is there? >> reporter: given the extreme fuel shortage gripping gaza strip, impacting the telecommunication system in gaza, it has been very difficult to reach doctors. we were unable to do so yesterday. we managed to get through to some of the staff of al-shifa hospital today. i spoke to the director of al-shifa's burns unit. he confirmed that the israeli military raid on the hospital continued. he said the israeli military seemed to focus on the basement of the surgical unit within the hospital complex, as they are looking or continuing to look for any evidence of a hamas terror cell. he said that the israeli military provided them with water and food. not enough water and not enough food. he confirmed the israeli military's assertion that not a single shot has been fired as a result of this raid. however, he says, there is a desperate humanitarian situation continuing at al-shifa hospital. he said there's a lack of fuel, a lack of electricity and critically a lack of oxygen that over the last week has resulted in the deaths of what he claims were 43 patients in t u because of that lack of oxygen and resources alone. take a listen to what he told me. >> reporter: you could hear him there calling for the evacuation of the hospital. he was also expressing outrage that the israeli military facilitated the visit of a number of journalists to the complex, according to the journalists, including "the new york times," they were not given access to patients or doctors within the facility due to what the israeli military pointed to as a security situation. he was outraged that they are allowing doctors to visit the complex and yet they are not facilitating that evacuation. i reached out to the w.h.o. they are working on it. one constraint is, they nee a safe route out of ashifa complex for some 600 patients. many of them criy ill. they need fuel. they need fuel for the palestinian red crescent ambulances to facilitate that evacuation. the w.h.o. was not able to give me a timetable for either of those things. >> it sounds so dire. thank you so much, erin. jason, the u.n. made a statement at noon yesterday in new york that they will not be able to send deliveries to any of the relief agencies inside gaza because of the telecom problem, the cellphone lack of connection, they can't safely deliver secure deliveries to anyone in gaza as far as the u.n. was concerned. >> the telecommunication blackout is terrifying for the average palestinian family. it's really difficult for the humanitarian workers. if you take the situation of a family member, if they hear of a strike and people need to move and families get separated, they don't have a way to contact each other. i have seen some family members say, it's the most terrifying part of all the military action that they have had to endure, all the difficulties that come with that is not knowing where a family member is, a loved one is. on our part, we do have this team of medical workers inside gaza right now. they have been carrying out operations in one of the medical facilities there. we haven't been able to touch base with them over the last 24 hours. that's not to suggest there's anything wrong. but we have that line of communication cut off. we can't get updates. >> israel said they were doing two fuel delivery trucks today. two is too small according to the needs. i can't imagine that -- the report from gaza that none of it got in. i think that was the report from some of your people, or maybe it was other aid groups. what do you know about any deliveries today? >> i know that we were able to bring in a very limited number of supplies within the last 48 hours. i don't have an update on today. i know that our fuel situation is extremely low. i think to the point where we make the decision where we can't actually move or we have to be extremely selective if we do move. it's been a couple weeks ago that you saw video of our trucks moving through gaza when we helped with the two hostage releases moving from hamas to the families of the hostages. that, of course, took fuel in order to drive those four women back to their families. unless we get more fuel in, that's to say the red cross won't be able to drive very much anymore. that applies to all the humanitarian agencies working and all the medical staff working and the situations in the hospitals as you mentioned. >> jason, thank you very much for that update. our thanks to erin. the ethics committee report which would spell the end of george santos' end in congress. i will talk to a congressman who has been trying to get him expelled. you are watching msnbc. snbc ers ♪ iphone 15 pro, your husband deserves it! ♪ (mom) carolers? 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"the new york times" is reporting that more than a dozen jewi tiktok creators and celebrities confronted tiktok executives wednesday night in a private meeting and a zoom, think it was. they wrot the meeting held in aideo call for 90 minutes, joined by more than 30 p in all, including actors, and was led by tiktok's head of operations and the global head userutives wanted to know what they xperncing. the celebrities and creators described sometimes with rhetoric htiktok's tools did not preve a flood of comments like hitler was right and i hope you end up like anne frank under videos posted by them and other jewish users. how does this get spread? how does the spread of propaganda increase the threat level? we heard that the fbi is seeing it's off the charts, the most since i.s.i.s. >> let's start by calling this what it is. it's a failure of education. the u.s. education system is reflected upon poorly here. as a former college professor, we used to read terrorist writings. i think it's important to read primary source documents. you have to know your enemy. that goes back to the fundamentals of studying warfare. not once did i have a student come to me showing admiration for this. the fact that our kids are learning history through memes, through social media apps and algorithms, in the case of tiktok being controlled by a country like china, is very worrisome. it only takes this radicalization process to push somebody over the edge, people that -- the so-called fence sitters thinking about doing something dangerous. it only takes one person, a lone actor, to go over that line. we are in some dangerous territory here. i also think it speaks more to the failure of education. it's really something that we need to address in this country. >> the viral content as well, and the failure to control it. just this week, we had the conviction of the man who attacked paul pelosi, who had been radicalized and had wild conspiracy theories and ited him to violence. the whi house wrote a statement about all of this saying that there's never a justification for spreading the evil and anti-semitic lies the leader of al qaed issued after committing the worst terrorist attack in american history, highlighting them as direct motivation for murdering 2,977 innocent americans. this is perhaps a generational issue. young people who were not alive during 9/11. >> that's right. i think it goes to show that we never can forget. whether you go to the site in new york city or that we have to teach the youth what happened on that day. the incredible response from the united states, frankly, from the intelligence community, the military that ensured we were not hit again. to me, it was an appropriate statement from the white house. it does go to show that i think a lot of us thought in the back of our minds that bin laden, who we knew was evil, it seems that we are still not teaching this enough. it has to do with the education system and the idea of never forgetting what happened on that terrible day. >> thank you both. trump unleashed. the former president attacking a new york judge superviing the civil trial and the law clerk hours after a limited gag order had been lifted by an appeals judge. you are watching msnbc. judge. you are watching msnbc so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide. 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>> it's scary. it's very hard. >> reporter: this woman is a junior. >> i had my star of david because i feel more secure that way. >> reporter: while members of pro-palestinian groups at uconn are worried. a recent graduate says she received this threatening voicemail. >> reporter: how did you feel? >> what else are they capable of doing if they are going out of their way to get your number? >> reporter: administrators say the school condemns islamaphobia just as it condemns anti-semitism and is investigating. now the nation's critical infrastructure agency is offering to put stronger security plans in place. >> we have seen an uptick in requests for our support. >> reporter: do you have enough people to do the work? >> the demand will always outstrip the supply. >> this is a scary time for jews. certainly on college campuses. >> joining me now is julia ainsley. it's a scary time for people, both muslim students and particularly jewish students, because there's been such a rise in islamaphobia and anti-semitism. >> there has. being on the campuses, that's where i got the gravity, the enormity of this situation, talking to students from both sides. some of these jewish students are talking about the fact that there are flyers that say that palestine is justified. they see that as an attack on their personal security. some muslim students, pro palestinian students would say, we don't see it that way. we see it as free speech. having these conversations you realize how scared people are and what a tough position it is for college administrators and for the federal government when they want to protect the safety of students while allowing for free speech. some people say this is almost the third front in the war, what's happening on american college campuses. these students start to form their opinions about the war and whose side they might be on. that's going to have an impact on where u.s. foreign policy goes as the college students become leaders. >> part of this is a lack of historic perspective. very few of the students know the history of either the palestinian refugees and how much they have suffered or the creation of the state of israel and how it evolved and how it evolved from colonialism, from >> i heard a guest of yours say it's a failure of our education system. so many people are learning about history via tiktok and memes. that's scary. i sat down with the executive director of cisca. it's not their job to educate people on history. it's their job to secure campuses. they go in and try to say, here is a place where you might be vulnerable to attack. it's free and up to campuses to take them up on that. they say -- i have heard from people they are up to their eyeballs, so many people reaching out. not only have colleges been afraid of mass shootings, now they have this threat to deal with. in trying to inform yourself about global affairs in the middle of fear, that's really hard. >> many of the schools, the faculty have rights that have been embedded in constitutions of the state of the public and private institutions, where faculty rights, free speech trump what the administrators can do. they are now re-visiting that. administrators in some of the cases were not as proactive. >> right. we have seen threats against faculty members as well, even when they are practicing free speech. there's a real questioning about the way things are done on college campuses and how far people can go. one other thing that was interesting as i was talking to some of the muslim students about whether they wanted their college to work with dhs more to keep them secure. no. we have a bad history with dhs. why would we want their presence on campus? it's something we have to watch. i don't think the story is going anywhere. >> the department of education has now opened an investigation in their civil rights division to possible title 6 violations at a number of schools, elite universities. i think we have -- >> they are looking at a number of schools, cornell, columbia, a lot of these places you have seen clashes. the federal government getting every tool they can, whether from title 6, whether critical infrastructure because they consider universities critical infrastructure, trying to figure out what they can do about this problem without overstepping and violating free speech. also, trying to keep the campuses safe. a lot of the campuses that have their own security but they also might need more help now than they previously did. >> julia ainsley, thank you so much. so helpful. boiling over. frustrations within pro-palestinian and pro-israeli groups leading to protests across major cities and violent exchanges. that's next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. can't stop adding stuff to your cart? 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(vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. have fun, sis! ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. the war between israel and hamas is dividing the country and the democratic party, as young activists protest outside the dnc and marches erupt across the country and just moments ago, there was a pro-palestinian protest outside the white house, about two dozen doctors and nurses from around the country joining together calling for a cease fire in gaza. they called for all u.s. aid to israel to be stopped. yesterday protesters shut down the bay bridge in san francisco. protesters locking arms across the lanes of traffic and displaying a banner which said biden/harris, cease fire now. the president and vice president were both in san francisco at the apec conference. on wednesday night, more than 100 demonstrators clashed with police outside the democratic national committee on capitol hill and we also saw a huge rally in washington, d.c., of course in support of israel. protesters shouting no cease fire. joining us now to talk about all of this is jonathan alter, the author of four books about american presidents as well as the sub stack news letter. he's an msnbc contributor. susan glasser, staff writer for the new yorker. and a special correspondent pbs news hour. >> jonathan we're seeing more people urging a cease fire which israel and the u.s. are against. we saw the massive march for israel in washington. so this war has really energized people on both sides, and there's very little communication between the two. >> yeah, i think that's right. passions are running high for understandable reasons because of the pictures that we've been seeing from the middle east, both the pictures of what happened on october 7th and the pictures of what has happened in the weeks since inside gaza. so you know, a lot of this was boiling under the surface, andrea, and this crisis has brought this out, and it is right now dividing the democratic party. that doesn't mean those divisions will necessarily be permanent. you know, the fighting might not be going on all that much longer. bibi netanyahu, according to my israeli sources will not be in office much longer. so this is a fluid situation, and we're not sure whether this level of protest will continue, but it's very intense right now. >> and susan, you were writing in the new yorker this week about the optics of president biden meeting with china's president in california, a lavish summit meeting while the top leadership of the democratic party inside their party headquarters here in washington was being blocked by young protesters. what does this mean potentially for the youth vote, for a big part of the democratic base in 2024? >> well, i think, andrea, you know, we are really struck by the almost exact split screen timing biden giving a press conference, having this very important super power summit, the first time that biden and xi have met in more than a year face to face, and the leaders of his own party are literally being blockaded inside the democratic national headquarters at that time by young, left-leaning protesters, pro-palestinian protesters. this is -- the energy on this, it is a domestic u.s. political issue as well as an international issue and a foreign policy issue. that's clear, and i think that, you know, for democrats, it's also kind of a belated reckoning. biden is very much, it seems to me, kind of liberal internationalist of the 20th century, and support for israel was a core bedrock of the party. i'm not sure that that's really the case going forward. this is a different democratic party. for years there have been warnings to netanyahu that he had pursued a very partisan strategy of align with republicans in the u.s. and that it would come back to bite israel in a crisis. well, we're in the crisis now. >> indeed, and in fact, joe biden was one of those who was warning netanyahu most forcefully in 2009 when he was first vice presiden to israel and netanyahu was expanding the settlements. layla, you've been talking to displaced gazans. i want to play part of your report last night from the pbs news hour. >> today in their leaflets, they're telling us to evacuate the south. early today the idf dropped leaflets over the southern city of khan yunis, but many don't know where to go. >> translator: they asked us, the citizens of gaza to go to the south. we went to the south. now they're asking us to leave. where do we go? we want to understand where exactly we should go. >> and that's the problem. they were told go south, that it would be safe. well, it wasn't safe. the corridors weren't established, nor was it free of attacks, but many of them did go save, and now they're being told today to leave the south because that's next after they finish with, you know, with what they're doing in the north. >> absolutely, and the problem is for so many gazans, palestinians in gaza, where do they go? they've been told to leave the north at the beginning. they said no, they then did start moving, and i was there inside gaza a few days ago with the israel defense forces watching streams of helpless people with bags of clothes, plastic bags, one by one being searched as they went along. they got nothing to their name anymore. they're carrying wounded people in makeshift wheel bar row, cheel they already live in tent cities. where can they go? there have been this one tiny strip by the beach. it's incredibly hot outside. they don't have water. they haven't had water for weeks. what are they going to do? live on the beach? >> and now they don't have cell service either. you've spent so much time there. we wanted to talk to you about your ground, the lack of cell service is causing huge panic where people are displaced already and can't get in touch with relatives. >> absolutely. and it really makes them feel useless, the last message someone sent out is they're going to kill us in the dark, and of course the problem is that western journalists can't freely operate in gaza. we are able to go in with the israel defense forces. so palestinian journalists are risking their lives, they are dying. 37 palestinian journalists have died in this war trying to report on what's happening. so people feel there completely urge siege as they are, and as though more and more frequently they can't show anyone the truth of what's happening to them. >> susan glasser, finally, this is an intractable problem, and it is unlikely to be solved in any substantive way as this campaign season heats up. >> you're right, andrea, and thank you for that really powerful report from the ground. i have to say, the problem here as it looks in washington is what is israel's play? what does success even mean in this campaign? and i've heard that again and again. what is a victory? how would we define it to the extent there is a plan for after hamas, it's not a plan that anyone agrees on. there seems to be real tensions merging between the biden administration and the israeli government on what that would be. i think five weeks into this horror, it doesn't look any clearer what some kind of meaningful resolution would be and tragedy obviously on the ground. >> we're going to have to leave it there, thanks to all of you. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember to follow us on social media @mitchellreports. 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