continue this travesty and darkness and i want sunlight. that's a nice way of saying it. isn't that pretty. i want sunlight. i want everything exposed to the public. and let's let the public decide because i want cameras at every inch of that courthouse. >> careful what you wish for? >> no, he doesn't. >> we got a lot to cover from that speech on saturday, including some frightening comments from the front-runner in the republican primary. meanwhile, donald trump's defense team will present its case in the civil fraud trial. we'll tell you who is taking the stand later today in new york. also ahead, it appears the new house speaker is not ready to move forward with the impeachment inquiry into president biden. we'll go through that new reporting. plus, we'll play for you the surprise announcement from republican senator tim scott, one of the five candidates who was just on the debate stage last week. we'll also bring to you the very latest out of israel and gaza. good monday morning to you. it is november 13th. with us we have the host of "way too early" jonathan lemire, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department elise jordan. president emeritus on foreign relation, richard haass is here, host of "politics nation" rev land al sharpton, founder of the conservative website the bullwork, charlie psychs and jim vandehei is here this morning. a lot to talk about in a jam-packed, scary stuff speech by former president trump over the weekend. >> well, i mean, there's a lot to talk about. he just reveals more about himself. "the washington post," of course, reported a few last week that donald trump basically was making an enemy's list and said if he were elected president of the united states he would use his position as president and start going after democrats, start going after political enemies, start going after -- it sounded like arresting even his former lawyers who no longer defend him. so you have all that talk, but you always had this fascist talk coming from him. and it was just a week or two ago that the anti-defamation league and many others were concerned when he was talking about immigrants, quote, poisoning the blood of america. and, of course, that's again just sort of calls for racial purity, which of course i find absolutely fascinating since we are a nation of immigrants. >> yeah. >> donald trump -- as donald trump himself knows, what were they called the drumpfs? what was his last name. >> drumpfs came here from germany when -- just having a name drumpf and being from germany was seen as anti-american and seen as poisoning the bloodstream. and now we're going -- we're just going full on hitler talking about vermin. and of course it's so interesting. i don't know who his spokesperson is, but you know, one of these fat white boys that likes to talk tough. oh, they're triggered. they're triggered. we will crush them. yours is they will be crushed. their lives will be crushed. so you have a bunch of weak people, a bunch of fat white boys a bunch of phony populist going around talking tough and unfortunately making threats that we, those of us who love democracy, those of us who actually believe in the american experiment all these years later, have to be worried about. >> yeah. >> and you look again. you look at the language of donald trump. you look at what donald trump says he's going to do. and you go back to maya angelou's saying, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them the first time. we have to believe him. and we also have to believe that this is the most important election probably since 1864. >> we try to call him out on the lies that he puts out there or not cover frivolous stuff that he says that is lies. but in this case, you have to look. amid a rise in anti-semitism across the united states, donald trump echoed the dangerous language of infamous fascist leaders in a social media post on saturday veterans day. and then again at a rally later in the day, trump vowed to root out the, quote, vermin within the country. take a look. >> in honor of our great veterans on veterans day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communist, marxist, fascist and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. >> i mean, it's really unbelievable what he says. and carlos lozata "the new york times" this weekend wrote, trump is running as an overtly authoritarian candidate. the illusion of pivots of adults in the rooms of a man molded by the office long gone. he is dismissive of the law except when he can harness it for his own benefit. of open expression except when it fawns of free elections except when it produces the results that he liked. he has called for the termination of the constitution based on his persistent claims of a 2020 electoral fraud and in a new term, would use the justice department as an instrument of vengeance against political opponents. we know who trump is. and what he offs. jim vandehei, that's a pretty good summary of a guy who is running as an authoritarian. >> no doubt. i think what you talked about earlier is the most important point. we always get sidetracked by the rhetoric that trump use. he is being very, very specific with us about what he's going to do. "the new york times" has done a fabulous series detailing that and everybody watching this should look at it because it's using his words to show what a second term would look like. we have reporting this morning that what's different if he wins is that he's going to come into office with an army of 40 to 50,000 people, ready to staff the government. he's not going to have the restraints of cabinet officials who disagree with him. he's going to do everything he can to purge anybody who's professional staff who has been there a long time and have a year's worth of vetting. they're asking people about their ideology, books they've re,ame one figure who you believe captures your spirit, your political philosophy. i think the obvious answer there for a lot of them is going to be trump. and if you answer trump, you pass this loyalty test. then they can put you into the bowels of government where the action happens. it's one thing to have rhetoric. it's another thing to take the department of homeland security, the department of defense, the department of justice and put in there people who believe what trump believes so that you can do the things that he says he's going to do. so i won't assume he's saying these things and bombast. he'll come in hell bent on doing it and this time it will be a much more organized government to be able to do it which is why i think this is the most important election of our life time because the contrast is massive and both sides would come in with teams ready to do what they want to do. >> wow. >> richard haass, i mean, you've seen this around the world. you've seen this from people like orbon what he's done where he has run off any press that opposes him. he's started by doing attacks, whether it's going after them for bogus tax reasons. he's regulated them out of business. he's run them out of hungary. they've taken over and the state runs media. so he doesn't have opponents. he's done the same to his political opponents. and so you've seen this threat before. but again with donald trump, you even take the fcc. he said he's going to bring all of that power into the white house. so he can decide what newspapers, what tv shows, what networks he likes, what networks he doesn't like. and then, you know, take him off the air if he doesn't want to take him off the air. this along with terminating the constitution, this is what he is promising already. >> yeah. we have seen it in places like hungary and turkey. it's interesting, joe, we're living at a time where the big foreign policy stories are what, invasion of democracies russia against ukraine and hamas against israel. the history of democracy are the greatest threats to democracy. donald trump said the greatest threats to democracy are not external invasion they're internal erosion of democratic restraints, of institutions, of norms, of laws. that's what donald trump represents great of threat we have from china, russia, you name it. the real threat to this country is from within and i think you just heard it. >> so speaking of orbon also at that new hampshire rally, donald trump praised hungary's authoritarian president, something that's become a staple of trump's recent speeches. and then went off teleprompter, again suggested barack obama is still the president of the united states. >> the head of hungary, very tough, strong guy, victor organize orben. probably considered very powerful, very powerful. they were interviewing him two weeks ago. they said what would you advise president obama, the whole world seems to be exploding and imploding. he said it's very simple, he should immediately resign and they should replace him with president trump. >> yeah. >> okay. >> charlie, i don't know how to break this to donald. but he keeps getting confused about who's the president of the united states. in fact, "the washington post" and "the new york times" both have had articles out over the past couple days about how now republican opponents are starting to take all of the times that donald trump has gotten lost on stage, all of his gaffes, all of his confusions, the fact that the poor guy still doesn't know who the president of the united states is, keeps going to a guy who was last elected president over a decade ago. and we're hearing it more and more. and now republicans are going after all the gaffes and all of the confusion that this poor old guy is having. >> yeah. i mean, there have been a series of gaffes but it's a mistake to focus on the gaffes. i think we ought to focus on what he is telling us he intends to do. i mean, to jim's point, on a daily basis, donald trump is laying out what trump 2.0 would be. and praise of orbon. he may have gotten the presidents wrong. the significance of that is not the gaffe, it's really his admiration, his deep admiration, on going admiration for the world's authoritarian thugs. admiration of president xi and vladimir putin his intent to turn the government into a weapon of revenge and retribution. the plans, the detailed plans for massive deportations and concentration camps, i mean, this is one of those moments where we have to distinguish between the white noise and the blinking red flairs that are going up every time this man speaks. so, donald trump is, in fact -- i mean, we can regard him as the orange clown, but he is deadly serious here. the clown with a flame thrower still has a flame thrower. and donald trump is escalating his rhetoric on a regular basis. you would think that having wrapped up the nomination he might try to be a little more reasonable, move toward the center. in fact, what he's saying is, no, what i really want to do is, i am an election denier, authoritarian and this is what i plan to do to the federal government of the constitutional norms. i think we need to take him deadly seriously about that. >> absolutely. and we have already seen what he has tried to do at the end of the last election, still thinks he won that. the biggest news, of course, out of all of this overarching are trump's plans to create an authoritarian government, to change -- to really change this democracy out of a democracy. there is good reporting on those plans and the people he plans to bring in. the data he's putting together. but, rev, i'm just curious if you noticed this obsession with obama and wonder if there's something there. president obama has promised president biden any support that he needs in the campaign. and we know where it all began with obama and donald trump. and everything about the birth certificate and ore things he tried to float out there if there's a subtle obsession with obama here coming out? this is the fifth time maybe he's -- >> i don't think it's subtle. i think it is an obsession. it's a clear obsession. >> what is it? >> let's remember, donald trump went from a failed tv reality star into politics as the face of the birther moment. >> racism. >> this whole trying to anti-obama with real race tinged applications is what brought him to the party. i think that obsession has never left him. he sees biden as immaterial, it's us against them. with all the racial implications of that and i think subconsciously he's playing to that with his audience and we're really running against them but we're running against obama. he doesn't have the mental discipline to hold back and remember that it's biden he's running against because he's really focussed on them. that's where the vermin thing comes from. that's where everything he's saying running as awe autocrat comes from. we have to stop them. i'm going to line them up. i'm going to mow them down. i'm going to lock them up. it's them against us and obama, that black president, is exactly what the problem is. i don't think it's a subtle or obsession at all, i think that's who he is. >> on the gaffes, it's probably in the category of too little too late, governor desantis has tried to amplify trump's misstatements. aren't many things biden and desantis's tweets about that, biden campaign retweets it. they're trying to negate any concerns about the current president's age. let's shift back to the policy here and jim's point earlier. if you haven't read "the new york times" piece, please do what trump is saying he'll outline for a second term of immigration. it's building kamps. it's raids. it is sweeps. it is trying to change the definition of citizenship in the united states. for birthright citizenship saying children born to immigrants are here illegally shouldn't be considered united states citizens. and also, there's not many people in place to stop him. there's no guardrail anymore. there's no mattis, kelly, just pure loyalists. >> well, that's what scares me because it's effective this go around. we really got lucky as democracy last go around that he was so ineffective and had so many blundering people appointed and he didn't have the real hard core people in place to tear open the bureaucracy. but this go around, i'm not so sure. you look how the heritage foundation is so involved in this push and they're adding their institutional heft to it. that's really concerning. and if anyone wants to consider heritage mainstream, if they're processing this kind of federal personnel system, that's really called into question. >> oh my god, the heritage foundation used to be mainstream for conservatives after ronald reagan got elected, that's really where so much of those ideas got elected. there is nothing reaganesque about this heritage foundation. i'm sure charlie could go on about that for quite some time and we'll talk about that in a little bit. but jim vandehei, i want to go back to you and just say, he is -- donald trump is planning it all out. when he starts talking about these camps for illegal immigrants, starts talking about all these other things he's preying upon something that middle class voters that swing voters, independent voters are actually worried about and that is the chaos at the southern border. >> yeah. i mean, you listen to this conversation and then you look at the polls. there's a lot of people who are very susceptible to this. a lot of people out there who feel like the immigration laws are way too loose and that the effects of that are bad for society. you look at the polls on who do you trust on immigration. he crushes joe biden. who do you trust on crime? he crushes joe biden. so we should make no mistake that there is 50% plus of the country that's very, very open to this message. and i think the reason to listen to what he says and to understand that he's going to be way more ready is that there's at least a 50/50 chance he can win the presidency, no matter how ludicrous some people may think that is, the numbers are unmistakable. and i think that's why the work that the heritage foundation, yes, this is not the ronald reagan heritage foundation, but this isn't the ronald reagan party anymore. the party is very much steve miller and donald trump. at least the apparatus. and that's what's different this time around. you'll have think tanks. you'll have manpower. you're going to have ideas. you're going to have lawyers. you're going to have bureaucrats that one of the things they talked about doing that's alarming people at dod, they want to go through and scrub the generals and the flag officers and figure out, are they sufficiently loyal? why do they want to do that? because some of the greatest handcuffs that were imposed on trump in the latter days were by general milley and the dod saying we're not going to do that. we will not do these things. what happens when you have 40, 50,000 people in the positions that actually make things happen in government say, hell yeah i'm with you on that. then things actually get done. it's not just rhetoric, it's action. and that would be a pretty radical shift in the direction of the country. doing things with government, viewing laws in ways that have not been done and not been 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