annoying. i just strongly believe you have to follow the law. >> alex, the mayor has continued to express his support, but we have says nothing wrong, again, at this point, he has not been accused of any wrongdoing. no charges have been filed. alex? >> okay, thanks for both of those points as well. george police, appreciate that. there's a lot of ground to cover in this next hour for you. first, up donald trump's testimony in court. did he help the prosecution instead of himself? you're going to hear from a courtroom insider. plus, what if trump wins the election? a chilling new article about what could come next. plus, my election officials are on high alert, and whether it is this is a new normal. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> as i bid you all a very good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york, welcome to alex witt reports. drama on capitol hill this afternoon, as house republicans will hold a meeting in an effort to avoid a looming government shutdown. the details of the gop funding plans are expected to be released later. just a couple of hours. this is coming as newly minted house speaker mike johnson is struggling to unite his conference on some sort of a stopgap bill. joining me now, nbc's julie tsirkin. of course, her post up capitol hill. welcome. so, we have speaker johnson, who is slated to hold this call with house gop members at 3:00. are there any indications of what this plan includes? and what democrats are saying, if this plan falls short of some sort of a clean stopgap bill? >> well, the new house speaker facing his first big test since getting big apple two weeks ago has been really keeping his cards close to the vest. but i've heard from several sources that the plan that he is most likely to reveal to his colleagues at 3:00 is a so-called lettered continuing resolution that would extend funding levels for different agencies at two separate times. the one he's thinking about it's going to have some agencies -- until january, and funds others funded until february. you can imagine this is a logistical nightmare and democrats in the white house, in the senate, and certainly among house members were already pushing back on that idea. here's jasmine crockett, who you talked to last hour. listen to this. >> we have been in the house and all we have been doing is running in circles. we have not been going anywhere, and this is further evidence that these people are very unserious. they don't want to govern. and frankly, i still don't understand why americans believe republicans are better on the economy than democrats, when they can't do the simple, basic job that we are required to do, which is to pass appropriations and keep this government open. >> speaking of appropriations, the reason we are having a conversation about a stopgap funding bill is because republicans have not been able to pass even their own partisan spending bills to fund the government for the full year. just this week, the speaker had to pull to appropriations bills because of several disagreements among republicans. but this -- house talking, to alex, we are still on tech track to see text later today, after that call. it is not likely to pass, as you heard, and senate democrats are already gearing up a plan for a clean seat are, without any aid to israel and ukraine or any of the other supplemental priorities, but something that will keep the government open. >> okay, we're going to see very closely what comes of that with your help. thanks, julie. in just a few minutes, i'm going to talk with a member of the appropriations committee about all this, plus this reaction to donald trump's striking candor about his post-2024 plans. we'll go now to breaking news on the israel-hamas war. new this hour, thousands of palestinians fled northern gaza during a humanitarian pause today, while idf forces advanced on foot. them [sound of artillery] [sound of artillery] >> while the israeli offensive continues with missile strikes landing near hospitals, where medical teams are working by torchlight, you are sufficient say they are working to get fuel to restore power to hospitals. israel has revised its death toll downwards from 1400 to 1200, well gaza health officials say that death toll now tops 11,000. arab leaders in saudi arabia, including from iran and syria, demand the release of hostages and and and the fighting. at the vigil today in dempsey, israel, for a cancer patient who was taken hostage. by hamas. >> at least that i expect is that my country, my country, we'll do the best to release my sister. i want my prime minister, i want somebody, to do his best, his best, to bring them back home. >> we have a number of reporters in place throughout the region, from tel aviv to lebanon. so at first, we're going to nbc's erin loughlin in tel aviv, israel, on this. erin, another welcome. what is the latest on? this really desperate situation at the al-shifa hospital and about the escalating humanitarian crisis in gaza. >> well alice, we just heard from the aid organization doctors without borders treating out -- situation in gaza city, saying that there aren't multiple hospitals in gaza city under bombardment within the last 24 hours, including al-shifa hospital, the main hospital in gaza city, we are tens of thousands of palestinians are seeking shelter. doctors without borders say it has staff operating inside of al-shifa hospital, and it's reporting that the hospital has been struck multiple times, killing people and injuring many. that's the update from doctors without borders on twitter. we have been talking to doctors inside of al-shifa hospital. they are talking to us about a desperate situation regarding power, the basics, power, food, water. they are reporting powder outages in the icu, as well as the pediatric ward, killing at least two patients, including an infant. we're also hearing from doctors in khan yunis, who are in contact with our colleagues in al-shifa. take a listen to what one doctor is to the south, the southern portion of gaza, has to say about what he's hearing from his colleagues inside al-shifa. >> the systems -- are collapsing totally. that is hundreds of people in the hospital. there is -- inside the hospital, with no place for them to compensate them. they are going out the door like collective grave, so they can avoid a humanitarian crisis. >> meanwhile, we're also hearing from the israeli military, acknowledge there's been fierce clashes, fierce fighting in the area of al-shifa hospital in the overnight hours, but denying the hospital is under siege, denying that they are shooting going on at the hospital. a spokesperson saying there is no shooting at the hospital, and there's no siege. the side of the hospital remains open. additionally, the israeli military concordant anyone who wants to leave the hospital safely, although doctors inside the hospital are telling us that there are so many wounded inside of al-shifa hospital at this point, that it's impossible to evacuate. meanwhile, here in the heart of tel aviv, thousands are turning out to mark and remember the 239 hostages that were taken captive by hamas on october 7th. you could see some of the ceremony happening behind me. they want to make sure that what happens to be hostages, the hostages remain at the forefront of the israeli government going forward >> and we can also very much for the speakers there, so thank you for explaining what that's all about. aaron, appreciate that. in just a few minutes, we're going to head to lebanon for the record latest infighting there along the lebanon israel border. but first, let's get to the latest on the civil fraud trial that threatens to limit donald trump's ability to do business in new york state. the trial featured angry testimony from trump, and clashes with the judge. but some new headlines suggest his daughter, ivanka's testimony, may have hurt his case. nbc news investigative reporter chloe atkins was in the courtroom. chloe, is joining me right now. talk about ivanka's testimony. at would you say was the main uxf it? >> so, ivan tmp was the last witness before the a.g.'s case before they rested their case this past week. she was on the stand five hours. she was asked a lot of questions about the loans she secured on behalf of the trump organization. and even though she showed many email exchanges between the load organizations, even internal emails about these loans she secured, she often said, i don't recall. so, she had very evasive answers of her involvement. she didn't really recall what took place during that, time despite being shown documentation of her having a key role in carrying this out. >> it's interesting, because stephanie grisham, you may have heard her again, former trump communications director, former chief of staff to the first lady, knows the family very well. she said she found a quite surprising because she said essentially that ivanka has the mind of a steel trap. she's always been very impressed by that. so my question to you, did you notice, since you had a bird's-eye view of everything, did you notice frustration on behalf of the prosecution when she would say, i don't recall, when shown these documents? >> prosecutors, the a.g.'s office, really remain focused and taking through each document and asking her thorough questions, despite her saying, i don't recall. at one point, they were asked, is there any reason to believe this wasn't your email? and she agreed there wasn't any reason to believe, despite not recalling the intricacies or details that involvement. now, she did, i do want to mention we talked about it many times, she really struck a very different tone that her father and even her brothers, who testified before her this past week. she was very point. she was stoic. she was calm. you know, on the other hand, her brothers and her father, most notably, were very combative and explosive at times. >> the fact that don jr. is coming back to court to testify starting monday, that he will be a witness for the defense instead of the prosecution, how do you expect that to go? what are you looking for? >> the trials moving full steam ahead. we're going to have the defense taking the reins, but donald trump jr., like you just said, testifying and being the first witness. the focus probably will likely be on rehabilitating and really altering this image of donald trump junior, and having a better control on his story and his perspective of what took place. and it will be really giving more context, more explanation about the areas that he talked about while he was on the witness stand, during the a.g.'s prosecution. and so that is what i really expect, alex. >> you're going to be watching closely, which means we will be talking again. thank you, my friend. so, did it help him or hurt him? an attorney in the courtroom with donald trump testified this week. we'll talk to you next. we are back in 60 seconds. k in 60 seconds. to get lost in investment research. get help with j.p morgan personal advisors. hey, david! ready to get started? work with advisors who create a plan with you, and help you find the right investments. so great getting to know you, let's take a look at your new investment plan. ok, great! this should have you moving in the right direction. thanks jen. get ongoing advice; and manage your investments in the chase mobile app. right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. >> your reaction to donald trump testimony in the new york civil fraud trial. trump lashing with the judge, reminded that he was not in that political rally. one former trump white house lawyer says testimony did not help trump's case. >> i mean, i thought that was a terrible testimony. trump made a series of errors in terms of getting much closer to the decisions related to the financial statements then he did in his deposition. and he made some significant concessions in that regard that i don't think helped him legally at all. the evidentiary phrase, while it's gone well for the prosecution, there are some holes that are consequential. >> so, joining me right now, kristy greenberg, former federal prosecutor, former deputy chief at the southern district of new york and hammill david, spokeswoman for the house january six committee. good to have you with me. kristie, to you first, because you are in court this week for the big event. do you agree that trump made concessions that's helped the prosecution? >> he did. he can't help but put himself as somebody who is an expert. and that seems to just be his ego talking. in this case, that actually her. tim where he was showing the statements of financial condition, which the judges already determined are fraudulent. he said i reviewed those. i offered suggestions. at times, i am an expert at peace. i can look at a building and i can tell you what the value of it is. and he said he would provide his opinions and suggestions at times. he said he was more of an expert than anyone else, which is exactly the opposite of what the defense is trying to prove. they're trying to show, no it wasn't the trumps that were involved, we relied on our accountants. so, him putting himself at the center of some of these decisions, and acknowledging it at one point, when showing the statements of financial condition, that he was responsible for making sure they were prepared in accordance of generally accepted accounting principles. he acknowledged that on the stand. none of that helps us defense. >> of course. talking about hubris there. what about his demeanor, christy, during the testimony? how it all his protests, his antics, how would that factor into potential appeals? do you agree with type of assessment that some consequential holes remain in the prosecution? can they be filled during cross examination of the defense witnesses? >> so, there are defenses that the trumps have as to the remaining causes of action. we've got summer judgment already on whether there was persistent fraud. that's already decided. but there are six other causes of action or the key elements of those fraud counts are really whether there is intention to fraud, and whether the false statements weren't material. whether the banks and the insurance companies actually relied on those statements, so, they are trump, and i think a lot of the witnesses are going to see from the defense case, or going to consistently hammer home that the -- banks will really focus on the relationship of the trump family. they were not focused on these financial statements per se. they were interested in the relationship and this, those statements didn't mean anything because they did their own due diligence. so expect that to be the theme carrying through. as to his attitude, i had never seen anything in court like it. i have had witnesses on the stance that were murderers, that were mass fraudsters, and i've never seen anyone on the stand act with that level of disrespect to the court. it reminded me of a scene out of my cousin vinnie, when vinnie and the judge or getting into it. but the judge holds vinny in contempt, and here, you know, nothing happened to the donald trump. he asked that the judge asked his lawyer to try and control him, and the lawyer said, i think rightly, it's your courtroom too. control, and he really didn't sanction him. there was no fine. it was just please try to answer the question. you can attack me, which i've never heard a judge say in court. >> mostly because it probably doesn't happen all the time? anyway, let's go to you, now. hannah you're economist woman and staunch trump ally, at least -- filed a ethics complaint against the judge that hearing trump's case, alleging quote, inappropriate bias and judicial intemperance. what do you make of this given her history with the 16 committee? when she stepped in after liz cheney was removed from her number three position there? >> at least stefanik is an extension of donald trump's legal team it seems like. except she is a part of the legislative branch, and has nothing to do with the judicial system. but this is a theme we've seen with donald trump's he doesn't make a legal case, as we just heard. it's a political move, right? so, his maga allies in congress have time and time again in his various court cases stepped in and tried to defend him or use the powers of congress to defend him. so, at least a, phonics case, it's the most recent case. but jim jordan, who leads the ironically weaponization committee in congress, demanded from alvin bragg information when donald trump wasn't cited federally in march. and he also said to fani willis, i want all of your information in the georgia case. so, this is something that trump seems to be leaning on. his maga allies in congress, to do his political building. we also say. we also heard donald trump this week talk about how this trial was very unfair and a crazy trial. this is what donald trump does. he did it in the 2020 election. he said the election was rigged and unfair. right? the facts don't matter to donald trump. it's all a political game. here, you see his political maga ally, at least a fonac, step in on his behalf and try to help from the political side and not a legal one. >> yeah. so, kristie, inka trump, as you know, took the stand in the frd trial. being descrid calm and poised, but some analysts one so far as to say she threw her dad under the bus. what's your assessment on that? >> i'm not sure i quite got that from her testimony. she essentially had, if i could sum it up in a few words, every time she was shown a document, she will show various documents on certain properties, on the real golf course, d.c., old post office, that they converted to a hotel. and chicago skyscraper. with each project, she continued to say, well, this is an iconic asset. and i'm very proud of the work we did on it. you ask me any details of what i did on its, i do not recall any of them. and, so, then you go email after email, document after document, she was very involved in these projects, particularly on the financials. particular, that's the primary point of contact for deutsche bank. and getting these loans as securing these low interest rates savings on the loans that trump wanted. so, when she was shown those documents, you, know she has to say, i have no reason to believe they're inaccurate, because she can't. even if she said she doesn't remember and can't provide more color. so, it was a way for the prosecution to really get more documents admitted into evidence that were harmful to her. the documents, i think, showed that the net worth that donald trump maintaining a net worth of 2.5 billion dollars was incredibly important to the bank. it was a sticking point for them they negotiated back and forth, and ivanka, in the documents, once she's getting the savings, says this is as good as it gets. so, she can't back away from the documents, even if she's going to say i don't recall. she can't back away from the documents, which are not helpful to their case. it shows the bank was relying on this material that they were providing. and it shows that that element of materiality is being driven by the state. >> so, you have new york a.g. laetitia james that fontas was quote, nice and friendly, adding at the end of the day, this case is about fraudulent statements and financial condition that she benefited from. you were involved with ivanka's testimony before the 16 committee. what did you take away from her appearance in new york? >> wow. alex, it's taking me back to when we saw ivanka testify before the ja