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>> which would you rather? have >> of course, i think for democrats, there is no shortage of positive feelings that they should have with results like that, but as i have said, the actual -- specter of 2016 looms large. thank you, my friend, we'll have more on all of that, it is a big night tonight. moments ago, nbc news projected that the democrat andy beshear won the kentucky governor's race. again, we'll have more on that, and we'll have even more projections as soon as we get them in. i tell you them, give you all the information. polls just closed in states across the country, states including ohio and virginia and, yes, kentucky. and there are a number of candidates and issues that are on the path. tonight, all eyes are on the issue of abortion. last, year after roe v. wade was overturned, republicans across the country felt the black clash of a ballot box, especially in states where abortion was literally on the ballot. and now, tonight, republicans in multiple states are trying to flip the script, make their anti abortion policies see moderate, while pink think pro-choice democrats as the real extremist. look at what is happening in ohio, where a vote to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution is literally issue one on the ballot tonight. this is how the right is framing that choice. >> late term abortion is real, and so is the pain. one allows that right up to birth, abortions that are too late, too painful and too extreme for ohio. will you stand for victims? please vote no on late term abortion, no an issue when. >> for more on issue one and what is happening in the state of ohio, the great steve kornacki is at the big board, msnbc's national correspondent. steve, what can you tell us my friend? >> off the presses of decision desk, they just made a quality -- we just project that, yes, it will pass, she won, putting the right to abortion and the state constitution in ohio with the provision that restrictions can be applied at the point of viability at the 22, 24 week. as you can see, we get more than a third of the vote here in ohio. yes, it's leading by 17 points right now. just showing folks on christmas show a few minutes ago, what is happening now, count are reporting, getting close to hitting 100% at the, and what we are seeing is that there was a test for the summer, where opponents of this put language and about that said they would raise the threshold to 60% for a constitutional amendment, as an attempt to defeat this. that went down to defeat this summer, and we are seeing in every county, that they're completing, we're seeing results that are basically a mirror image of the summer. the folks who are against raising the threshold are voting for this tonight in basically equal numbers. this summer, that proposal to raise the threshold loss 50 7:43. this thing is, right now, on track to land early in the territory. that is the nbc news projection that this is going to carry, and you can see based on the completed counties that we have had so far, it could be by a pretty healthy margin. >> steve, there is a lot of, shall i say, misdirection from the part of republicans in the state who changed some at the language and the amendment, the language that will be enshrined in the state constitution is not what voters actually voted on tonight. i believe they on different languages to refer to defeat this is of unborn child. there was this back and forth about the early ballot issue in caucus. the bow issue one now in november. can you talk a little bit about what we know about how any of the plate? do we have any information about parts of the state to have come and stronger than expected? >> i think the story is the consistency between the vote to summer and the vote tonight, and it really feels like the folks this summer, who had decided that they wanted to vote for this, voted down the initiative this summer to raise the threshold, and the numbers at the same. that is what i am struck by, the same disciple of this. take washington county right here, we've got almost all the vote in washington county, one of the counties where issue one will fail, but supporters of shulan are sitting at 40 and a half percent in this county, just about all of the vote in. this summer, supporters of she won, presumably voted no this summer, because they did not want to raise the threshold. no in the same county summer got 42. it really does not look like we are not seeing shifts of more than a point or two in these completed counties. it really does feel like, the turnout is higher, it looks like, but it feels like, in many ways, it's a re-run of the summer, and folks on both sides had the same sense then as they do know about what they are voting on. they had their minds made up in both cases. >> just to be clear for everybody at home here, ohio is effectively a red state. this is one of the first times that voters in a red state have been asked to vote affirmatively for reproductive choice, that is correct, right, steve? >> that is a key point going forward. and this is also seen as a model for other red states and swing states in 2024, folks who tried to get this on the ballot in south carolina, for instance, florida, arizona. the difference here, there have been other states that have put abortion rights constitutional amendments in, but blue states like california, new york, vermont, maryland, california, vermont, the two that have done, and maryland are trying, they simply in california around, say that is in the state constitution, the right to an abortion, and they felt no pressure or need to not to any kind of restriction on the. folks here in ohio did feel that pressure, and that is why they assess inserted that language that says restrictions can be placed basically at the 22nd, 24th week, the point of fetal viability, and that is the additional language that you will see exported to those red states, to the swing states, when folks try to do the ballot next year. again, in a place like south carolina, a place like arizona, a place like florida, i think you'll see language allowing for restrictions at the point of fetal viability. there is a test tonight in a red state like ohio, giving that type of provision for a prescription along with the constitutionally mandated right to an abortion. if that counts -- would be politically successful, it clearly is in ohio, and i think that that creates the roadmap for other states, for supporters at this next year. >> we are going to see a lot of playbook development this evening. i want to get into the specifics here on issue one. it was being positioned on the right as a vote of late term abortion. to be clear, if one does not allow abortions to birth on it when. what it does do is a law for abortions around the 23rd week of pregnancy, and then after that, it allows for the health of the mother to be taken into account. if you want answers that if a doctor believes in an abortion, it's necessary to safety life or health at the mother, even though in the pregnancy, then the doctor could legally perform an abortion. now, there is a lot of discussion tonight about what might happen if issue one felt, because the republican majority in the ohio supreme court could have temporarily reinstated a temporary six-week abortion band has no exceptions for rape or incest. we don't think that will supersede what has happened tonight. we have a lot to discuss about what this means for voters in ohio and what it means as an active issue for democrats and republicans in 2024. i want to bring in now, representative chantal brown from ohio, who can talk to us a little bit more about what is going on interstate and what it portends with the rest of the country. >> representative brown, thank you for joining tonight. let me first get your reaction to what has gone down in your state. it looks like voters are voting yes on enshrining the right of reproductive choice in the state's constitution. >> yes, thank you for having me. i would be remiss if i did not think the voters and volunteers who worked at tirelessly to make sure people understood what issue one was about, the importance of voting yes on issue one. as he stated, this is the extreme abortion ban to had no exceptions for rape or incest. it also gives doctors the freedom to get emergency care for miscarriages and access to contraceptives like birth control pills. i could not be more proud and excited about the results that have come in, and i want to thank you candy voters and volunteers who have worked to make it possible. >> i do want to ask you about the attempts by republicans commissioner that this thought pass. the cannery between ballot issue one and august, where supporters of abortion rights were encouraged to vote no, and then there was a another ballot issue, or supporters of reproductive freedom were encouraged to vote yes. there was the poaching of i believe 26,000 voters in late september from the voter registration rules, which is tightly up against the voter registration that nine. some folks were worried about whether it would discourage people from going to the polls, or prevent them from going to the polls. there was even which on the ballot itself, which framed this as a choice around late term abortion, and referred to the fetus as an unborn child. those efforts did not seem to have deterred the voters of ohio for making this a constitutional right for the state, but did you make at them, as they were unfolding? >> i think people heard the message loud and clear, messaging still matters, issues are important, and they made their voices known that the powers the belongs to the people. what we were telling people as it relates to issue one is that it would allow them to make their own health care decisions without the interference of government or fear of being criminalized. that is the bottom line, and that abortion care is health care. as you can see, just like in august, when there was a lot of confusion, this was -- i deemed it as the undercurrent our first step in a two-step dance, but the night was the main event. people were prepared. we started sending the message out in august that he will start voting no in august and in november. people were paying attention. i could not be more proud of the voters. despite republican effort to try to continue to take away our freedoms, suppress, suffocate and ni our voices at the ballot box, the people continue to show up and show out an ohio. i couldn't be more proud again, because so often, so goes ohio, so goes the nation. what we know in cleveland, which is a part of the district i represent, nothing is given, everything is earned. we knew going into the race that it would be a difficult fight, but we worked incredibly hard -- and we were able to deliver incredible results tonight. >> what is your message to national democrats, who may be feeling a bit on their heels with the recent polling? they came out and in your times earlier this week about president biden's chances in 2024, and his numbers vis-à-vis head to head matchup with donald trump in 2024. what advice do you give too worried democrats at this hour? >> there is a not their sayings in politics, there is only two ways to run, on a post or scared. those numbers are very frightening. listen, again, this is not going to be an easy fight. we are ready to roll up our sleeves and work hard, but i would remind voters that polling is just a snapshot in time. the polls don't vote. as we know, when it comes to putting specifically with president joe biden, they have never proven to be favorable to him, but he has always shown when people count them out, they don't know how to count. >> democratic congresswoman chantal brown, thank you for asking the time. congratulations on the within a. >> thanks. >> i mentioned before that we got to the ohio results, that republicans in the state were trying to paint democrats as the radical ones on the issue of abortion. we are seeing a similar strategy play out tonight in the state of virginia. joining me now is congresswoman jennifer mcclellan from virginia. she is a democrat. congresswoman, thank you for being here. for people to have not been following what is going on in your state, governor youngkin is trying to paint republicans as the moderates, sensible one for embracing a 15-week abortion ban, and democrats, as the extremists who abortion on demand until the end of pregnancy. looking at what happened in ohio, how do you think that the governor's efforts are going to fare this evening? >> i don't think that they will fare well. first of, all the voters of virginia want our abortion laws to remain as they are now or be even less restricted. over three fourths of virginia voters, that is what they want. they understand that the decision about when and whether to have an abortion is between pregnant people and the providers. not glenn youngkin, not politicians enrichment or any other capital. they're coming out accordingly. we have seen high turnout in these off, off year elections. that's because people know that their rights are on the ballot, their rights are on the line, and we have worked really hard to make virginia a safe haven for abortion access. it's the only state in the south without a ban, and virginians are coming out today to show that is how we will keep it, and they are not buying what glenn youngkin is setting. >> a talk a little bit more about whether virginia's the last bastion of hope for people needing reproductive choice and the, south and the degree to which that resonate for folks inside virginia, they sent agree, who are more insulated for folks that are in the deep south, concern for the regional citizens who did not have the same freedoms that they do. >> absolutely, back in 2020, i worked to carry a bill that got rid of medical unnecessary restrictions to abortion that were legal under roe. virginians wanted to. when roe fell, they understood that all of the parkas could be undone, and they did not want to be undone, and they were angry. i heard all over virginia, and i traveled all over virginia this year and campaigning for over 50 candidates and 82 events, and people were upset that they were the first generation at their family to lose the constitutional right. and that in virginia, knowing the governor youngkin, with the trifecta, would ban abortion and nowhere between new mexico and the atlantic ocean, would you be able to get an abortion if you and your provider felt that that was the right thing to do in your case. and virginia voters do not want to. >> jennifer, in terms of governor youngkin, he has been seen at the vanguard of some of the republican policies that have become sort of national strategies. he was one of the first people to seize on the idea of crt to try to weaponize it for social division and political gain. he is a leader in row testing this notion that republicans are for a moderate abortion limit. they are not calling the 15-week ban a ban. they're calling it a limit, trying to suggest, as i said before, to that democrats are the shin once. they are not even limiting choice saying, reasonable people favor the myths. can i ask you, given his success on crt, is their expectation that no matter what happens in virginia tonight, youngkin's laboratory testing on abortion could be something that we see replicated by republicans across the country, who understand that their party is not with the american public on a very important issue that drives voters to the polls? >> look, i would say that, first of all, when governor youngkin became governor and started to govern, virginians pushed back on his extreme agenda, even related to the curriculum in our schools. when he tried to rewrite social studies standards, virginians came out in droves to say that we want a full, complete accurate history tasha our classes, including how racism of the past impacts our policies and communities today. they made that loud and clear. they made that lot and clear in the polls. that is partly why they're coming out to vote today. they don't want the 60 maga agenda, even if it is wrapped up in a smile and red face. >> virginia congresswoman jennifer mcclellan, take a pretend to, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, we will continue to bring you all of these life election results as they come in, plus, what it means for the expected 2024 matchup between joe biden and donald trump. there is a whole lot on top this evening, stay with us. , stay with us >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? 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