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now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. >> we begin this hour with the home of the xfinity 10g network. global push to address the humanitarian crisis in gaza. as israel steps up its ground offensive backgrounds hamas, president biden giving the thumbs up and answered yes to ask if the -- humanitarian pause to get aid into the gaza strip. that proposed pause dominated discussions between secretary of state anthony blinken and the leaders of several arab nations meeting in jordan today. arab leaders want an immediate cease-fire in gaza to provide the -- secretary blinken says that a cease-fire would only help amos as it is a terrorist organization. >> i tell you that a cease-fire now would simply leave hamas in place, able to regroup and repeat what it did on october 7th. and you don't have to take my word for it. just days ago, a senior hamas leader said it was their intent to do october 7th again, and again, and again. no nation, none of us, can accept that. >> meantime, in washington, d. c. thousands of pro palestinian protesters also demanded an immediate cease fire. the protesters also urged leaders and d. c. to stop funding israel's military, it calls for a path to create a free society for palestinians. tonight in tel aviv, thousands of protesters holding israeli flags and pictures of protesters -- hostages, demanded the release of more than 200 hostages kidnapped by hamas on october 7th. that tara tech live 1400 people in israel did. it and gaza, the death toll continues to grow. moments ago, another israeli airstrike hit gaza. you can see the blast strike in gaza over the skyline, seen here from southern israel. the hamas run health -- ministry says over -- 1 million and a half people have been displaced in gaza. joining me now from tel aviv, nbc news correspondent hala gorani and nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley in lebanon. hala, i'll start with you. how was secretary blinken's trip to the middle east be received tonight both from the middle east and arab leaders inside israel? >> there is a big disconnect, essentially, between what secretary blinken is calling for, what arab leaders want, and what benjamin netanyahu is prepared to concede. benjamin netanyahu has been very clear. there will be no cease-fire, there will be no humanitarian pause. secretary blinken wants a humanitarian polish to allow for humanitarian aid to get through for some water medicine obviously fuel still off the table in order to ease the suffering of the palestinian people. as far as arab leaders in this region the humanitarian pause typically announced to know more offense pressing the pause button, maybe perhaps easing the suffering of the palestinian people to continue this massive bombardment campaign that they say amounts to collective punishment. and in the words of even the foreign minister who was meeting with secretary blinken today early on in this bombing campaign he called what was happening and gaza genocide. so there is a huge disconnect. secretary blinken was not able to secure a humanitarian pause or any promise of anything that resembles a humanitarian pause from the israeli prime minister. and is now on his way to turkey, which has had a very public falling out with israel and recalled its ambassador. so diplomatically there seems to be a lot of work for secretary blinken to do but so far not much achieved, alicia. >> a lot of work indeed. matt you talked to a spokesperson for hamas. what do they make of all this talk of a cease-fire? >> this particular hamas official, who's one of the members of the political bureau of hamas and the gaza strip he's here in beirut. i spoke with him a week after he made comments on lebanese television where he said there wouldn't just be the one october 7th attack that shocked the world. but there will be a second and a third and a fourth. this was in arabic to a middle eastern audience. so i asked him how that kind of talk of continuous attacks against the israelis was in anyway consisted what they are calling for israel to stop their attacks on the gaza strip. here is your conversation. >> how can you ask for a cease-fire, how can i ask for israel to stop their aggression, when you go on television and lebanon, here, last week, and set you will continue the aggression. you will continue -- >> what does it do to stop? >> if you're asking for a cease-fire, if you're asking -- >> we will -- this is our legal right to fight against occupation. it's according to international law and all the other nations and the world -- >> so, to me, he was saying that essentially, yes, he wants israel to stop their aggression on the gaza strip. but he doesn't say that as an obligation, something that needs to happen both ways. he doesn't feel that is no hamas needs to stop their attacks against israel and return. on the same level, we're talking about comments he made last week. again, in arabic, to a middle eastern audience. it's gonna be different from what he's gonna be saying and english to a western or american audience, two channels like us. >> as we were coming on the air, we received new video. i'm not sure if you are able to see new explosions over the gaza strip tonight. what are you watching, hala, next as israel moves deeper into gaza. >> they moved deeper into gaza to the point they're encircling council city. so there are deep into the territory. the big question is, will they enter the city itself, because then we're talking about house to house, door to door fighting. that is still something that is, perhaps being determined. the calculations are being made. but it has to be said, that the amount of civilians suffering and the gaza strip has reached proportions that are having an impact outside of the realm of military calculations, and into the diplomatic. what we heard secretary blinken say today reiterating once again, that what israel does has to take into account civilian suffering in gaza. it's really kind of a softening of the tone, coming from the united states, but cause some of the images we're seeing coming out of the gaza strip right now, you have seen also them estimates durations in western capitals. you have seen the complete breakdown of the relationship between the u. n. secretary general and the israeli ambassador to that united nations. there is really, right now, a lot of pressure to do something about what is happening directly to the civilians and gaza. and the u.s. is pushing, whether or not the israeli prime minister is going to listen, and heat the call for humanitarian pause, that right now is very much an open question, alicia. >> and pcs hala gorani for us israel and matt bradley in lebanon, thank you both for getting us. the hospitals and gaza are running out of fuel. hamas is holding fuel as it continues attacks against hamas forces. that fuel is not only is for a textbook to generate infrastructure during -- inside gaza. anna schecter joins me now. i was struck when our colleague said feel is off the table. talk to us about the role those demands are playing, both in terms of getting aid in and getting hot this out. >> it's a terrific question, alicia. because fuel is central to the complex negotiations going on right now. you have more than 200 hostages who are in this subterranean world of tunnels, under ground and it doesn't seem that israel or the u.s. knows exactly where they are. and yet hamas is saying well we'll release them if we get fuel. so hamas needs a tremendous amount of fuel to continue to operate underground. the fuel goes to generators, to clean the air in the tunnels, and to provide electricity and the tunnels. so that's how hamas has been able to orchestrate and create this subterranean world that is incredibly difficult for the idf to fight. so the reason that hamas continues to push for a fuel, they are using the hostages as bargaining chips, and just as a complex internationally gauthier shunned. so the qataris are heavily involved. the u.s. is involved. and hamas is demanding fuel and the israelis are saying we cannot allow any fuel to go to hamas because they will continue to fund their war machine. continue to use the fuel to keep going in those tunnels. the fuel, by the way is also used to manufacture the weapons that hamas is using to fire rockets into israeli territory. >> you mentioned the hostages, and i want to ask you about that. your report, quote, documents found on the bodies of hamas militants suggested broadcasting atrocities online was a planned part of the attack which killed more than 1000 civilians, including children and babies. facebook bans hamas and yet these videos have shown up on what will platforms. what does it tell us about this moment and the challenges of social media companies not allow videos like this to exist online? >> this moment is so unique and so unprecedented, where you have hamas fighters infiltrating a village, filled with civilians, taking control of these people. forcing individuals to open their a facebook apps so they can use it to livestream abductions, livestreamed killings or even open up a facebook app, take video of killing a grandmother, who is bleeding out, and post it to her facebook page so that her family opens her facebook page and sees it. this kind of brutality is so unexpected, and yet for facebook their position is, there is no way we could have anticipated. it what we're seeing is the result of creating a platform where anyone can click a button and live broadcast anything. what's unique about this is that the terrorists who attacked actually took the victims phones, forced them at gunpoint to open those applications, and broadcast out to their families and friends. >> i've only got 30 seconds left, but i want to ask if you spoke with those families. and what are they said? >> the trauma they experienced, opening their loved ones facebook feeds, and watching these horrific videos of their family members dying or cowering in terror as they're being abducted, the actual act, the horrific acts that were carried out, that is beyond imagination. but when you're watching a video on your phone, it's so traumatic to watch that. that's what these families are telling me. that they just wish they had not had to witness it, in the way that i did. >> ncb's anna schecter, thank you so much. still to come, for many jewish americans, israel's war with hamas is dredging up traumatic memories. we're going to hear from a 97 year old holocaust survivor. and later, with their party in shambles and days from a government shutdown, house republicans playa dangerous game with aid for ukraine. but first, richard lui. >> thank you alicia -- a 5. 6 magnitude earthquake hit friday at been there. authorities say at least 120 people are dead, dozens more injured, the death toll is expected to rise as communications 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>> alicia, the legislative math is not there for johnson. we can fast forward to the government shutdown or a lost by mount jansen, that will look a lot like kevin mccarthy's passes. what we don't know is, have not johnson handle that moment. when you look kevin mccarthy ultimately would do, is strike a deal with democrats to vote for something in a democratic senate and democratic president would sign. we don't know what mike johnson would do. i would just even his move on israel, more than opening salvo, april be kevin mccarthy would have considered as well. to tie aid to something. some republican priority. the absolutely here is he actually it something that's indefensible. so that is not something that will ever be considered by the senate or signed by the president. what happens in two weeks, we just don't know mike johnson's leadership style at this point. >> eugene, i take david jolly's point about the ability to phosphoric to pour this is all go when, to either a government shutdown or a speaker removal two point oh, i think is where we are at this point. at some point it would come hard to keep track. i just wonder if your sense is any different about what it is he's trying to do here? >> i think part of it is michael johnson wants to make clear to the far-right of his party that he's willing to fight. that he's gonna get his arm twisted into doing what we kind of already know is probably gonna happen. what the congressman is saying -- i think something that folks really keep in mind is this is going, this is the house republican conference. it's kind of an island on its own when it comes to legislating at this point. has democrats, senate democrats, senate republicans and the white house promo same page when it comes to these funding bills. a deal was struck months ago by the former speaker of the house to get this done. and i think, what i'm hearing from a lot of especially those frontline republicans in the house is that they're just sick of the drama. they don't want to have a majority that doesn't know what it's to. they don't want to be the party that looks back and say, we should have looked more like adults in the room. the fundamentals have not changed in the house republican conference over the past weeks. you still have a sizeable portion of that conference that doesn't want to get anything done and frankly will use any opportunity to say that it's basically better for them because approves their own point about politics and government. >> david, what eugene just said, republicans are saying. they're not the only ones saying. that minority leader hakeem jeffries said, all of the shenanigans in the house is part of republicans go to shotgun the government. you come back to this question though of what it is that again, not, you know the eight or however many who might actually believe that, as eugene said, if it's them, not republicans not the united states of america, not their constituents, but then the eight of them and their brand -- how do you mitigate that if you're out the rest of the republicans who might actually want to over this? >> yeah, alicia. you are thinking for directionally. let me introduce you to her publicans. think there are fine with the chaos. there are fine to shut down the government. they don't think there's political consequence or actually any policy consequence to that, as well. that's just a tool they believe they have. and even on some of these, what we would consider, hard right issues, beyond issues on reproductive rights, be it because on putting freedom from vladimir putin, be at the border. whatever it might be those issues are all actually fun for republicans and moderate districts. at least that they are. understand, mike johnson was elevated on the engine of everybody. not just but a few republicans, but by everybody. they're actually okay with that agenda. what i am re

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