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"katy tur reports" starts right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. we're watching lewiston, maine, where president biden will pay respects to those murdered in the mass shooting last week. for now, we're going to start in new york city where the trump organization fraud trial wrapped for the week. eric trump is finished testifying now. reporters say he looked uneasy in the courtroom. we have two people who were there to tell us what he said and what they saw. outside the courtroom, eric trump called the case a joke and said the ag was unfair. >> she's come after my father ruthlessly. every single day a trump is in this court, she shows up. it's a press moment. we haven't done a damn thing wrong. if you can line up as many trumps as you can, she can sit in court for an extra couple of days, and send fundraising e-mails to her donor base saying i'm going after trump. >> now that both brothers, eric and don jr., are done testifying, what did they give prosecutors. donald trump is expected to take the stand on monday. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin, and "new york times" investigative report suzanne craig. they have been in the courtroom as promised this week for don jr. and eric's testimony. it's so nice to see you both in person. i rarely get to have you both here. i'm excited that court ended early today. eric trump was different on the stand than his brother don. >> he was really different. don jr. was the pleasant, easy witness this week. >> good cop, bad cop. >> a little bit of the two, but i think that reflects their different roles in the organization at this point. eric trump, to me, seemed like he was owning the mantle of being the de facto leader of the trump organization now, and instead of shying away from that basically said, with respect to allen weisselberg's severance agreement, his father didn't approve the agreement. he did that. that was his business decision. i saw that as a transfer of one generation to the next of trumps in terms of who is supposed to lead this empire in the next phase. >> what does that do for him in the case to make the transition? >> not much. >> she can answer that one. >> why do it? >> there's a point of pride, taking that ownership also means as executives for the company they have legal responsibilities that both don and eric tried to reiterate that they didn't have. they wanted you to think that they relied on their accountants and lawyers and were entitled to do so. they relied so heavily that it may be reckless behavior, which itself is proof of intent. >> can you compare what the brothers said to what their accountants said on the stand about the interactions and discrepancy if there are any? >> it was interesting. we have had some of the people that are in the machine of the trump organization coming up, various people in the accounting department, and also outside accountants which become very important, and they have said that they simply work with the information that they got from the trump organization. so there's this disconnect, and eric trump is trusting, he was saying, you know, i thought the really sort of smart moment for the attorney general in the direct examination was when they pulled up his deposition that he gave last year. and they were playing it, and he was saying, i don't know, i don't remember, i don't get involved in, you know, there was the famous statement, i pour concrete, i don't get involved in appraisals and then they pulled that up for the judge to see, and then they spent hours with eric showing that he was in the minutiae of some of these appraisals, he was very much in the weeds. >> how so when he was in the weeds of it, what was he doing? >> certainly the impression that was left, and eric trump may take with it, he was trying to put his thumb on the appraisals to get a higher number, and one of the appraisers involved talked about how eric did that. this is to the benefit, and flows into the statement of financial condition. >> could you say they were arguing they were under dur -- dur es. >> they felt these appraisals were particularly important. the other thing is that they extensively dealt with don and eric about these things. patrick burnie, remembered a 2001 financial call about the statements of financial condition that he had with don and eric. eric did not remember it at all, and even when confronted with bernie's extensive testimony about the conference call, what the purpose of it was, to discuss a valuation methodology change, eric didn't remember at all, and at the same time, he'd say he was a liar. >> judge engoron, what can we learn from the way he has been presiding over the case up until now? >> i think you have seen, the i think the thing that, and this kind of came to a head today as well, there's been this back and forth and a lot of discussion about his clerk from donald trump's team. they have been seizing on different things that she has done. everything from she's communicating with him too much and it started out with this photo on chuck schumer, and donald trump said chuck schumer girlfriend is in the court, that was the beginning of the daily battle about various things that his clerk has done to the point that donald trump's lawyers today were suggesting there should be a mistrial, and i think they're laying some foundation here for the appellate court. it's becoming honestly a distraction. the attorney general's office, said trump was trying to create a side show out of this. certainly something i'm going to keep an eye on. because donald trump is up monday. >> let's talk about that. what did we get from the testimony this week that's going to lay the foundation for donald trump's testimony? >> what'snteresting about the testimony is it had little to do with donald trump himself. it was primarily about what both of the brothers did in their own capacities as officers and executives at the trump organization and when he left to become president, what they had to do between 2017 and the present day to shepherd the organization including certifying his financials. so i don't know that we can glean that much from this week about next. i will say the judge gives a lot of latitude to witnesses, and donald trump will think that's helpful for him. you know it won't be. >> the fraud decision has been made. the judge decided there was fraud in the case. it's about how much they owe and whether they can continue to do business. >> it's interesting with the financial statements. don jr. has been less involved in the company, but they both signed off on the financial statements. there's document after document. they're not backing away from the financial statements, not saying there's misrepresentations in the financial statements. they signed off on them. i was a reporter back in early 2000 in wall street when enron happened, and there was a moment they required at that point ceos to sign off personally on the statements because they wanted that accountability. this is not unusual there's accountability when you sign off on something, in this case, found by a judge to be false. >> when you say to the best of my knowledge, you have to have done some of your own research on this. >> that's right. >> you have to take responsibility for what you're saying, you can't just pass somebody a document, and assume that they're going to do the diligence on it. >> that's right. >> let me ask you about ivanka, news on her? >> she's been trying to get out of the court date, scheduled to go to court wednesday, and she has been trying to get out of it. she has withdrawn her request for that, so she will be here on wednesday. >> we will see donald trump on monday, ivanka trump on wednesday, that's expected at least, we could have that change. let me bring in ken dilanian ouch washington, our nbc news and justice and intelligence correspondent because we have some news out of d.c., and a gag order, another one of the donald trump cases, the election interference case brought by jack smith and the special counsel, what's going on with that? >> still litigating over it. last night the trump team filed an emergency appeal to the d.c. circuit court of appeals, asking them to stay this order, and asking them to rule by november 10th, saying this order is muddling president trump's core political speech during a historic presidential campaign. they called it unprecedented and sweeping. it's a limited gag order that restricting former president trump from attacking in the case, court personnel, and witnesses. what the special counsel has said is that the kind of attacks that trump has made, for example, on mark meadows could amount to witness tampering, he's appealing to this larger court of public opinion. trying to intimidate people. could amount to jury tampering. the judge agreed in the limited respect. didn't go as far as the prosecutors wanted but imposed this limited gag order, and now it's going to go to the appeals court and may end up in the supreme court. it's an interesting test case. how much can a judge limit speech by someone running for president and does have the the right to engage in political speech. so those are the issues at play there. >> let me ask you, lisa, about judge chutkan, i keep going back to what she threatened, what he said earlier on when she was talking about donald trump and telling him to essentially behave himself and what she says, if he does not follow court's orders, she'll people occupy the trial. what do we know about her decision to speed up trial or have we been able to glean anything from the way she's responding? >> judge chutkan having made the decision to hold the trial in march is unlikely to must have it back earlier. she did approve a request by the prosecutors to begin jury selection in february. we're marching along to the trial date. at the same time, i think tanya chutkan is serious about the march trial date. >> february jury selection does she expect that to go on for quite some time? >> she's trying to suszut some of the allegations of bias that both sides believe could affect the administration of justice here. it's a smart move to start that early so we don't get detailed having the trial when she anticipates. i'm going to fulton county, ken dilanian, little bit of news out of that court case, the georgia rack tering case against donald trump. there's news about one of the codefendants, harrison floyd, what's going on with him? >> floyd is a former marine, charged over allegations he tried to intimidate election worker ruby freeman. this was over whether he can subpoena ball lots and other election records for his defense from the georgia secretary of state. he wants this material because he says president trump did not lose, and expects to present evidence. and should have been excluded from the final vote tally. these government agencies say, wait a second, this material is very personal and sensitive, and not relevant to harrison floyd's case. the judge seems skeptical, but he didn't make a ruling today, katy. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. lisa rubin, suzanne craig, it's good to see all of you and have you here on set, ladies, i appreciate it. up next, what hezbollah's leader said about october 7th and what he is threatened israel with. is it free speech or intimidation, three students from three major universities join me to discuss the rise of hate on campus. we are back in 60 seconds. hate on campus we are back in 60 seconds. tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles of remote coral reefs. that can be analyzed by ai in real time. ♪ so researchers can identify which areas are at risk. and help life underwater flourish. ♪ right now get a free footlong at subway. like the new deli heroes. buy one footlong in the app, get one free. it's a pretty big deal. kinda like me. order in the subway app today. secretary of state antony blinken is in israel pushing leaders to pau the fight so humanitarian aid can get into gaza. two current and former officia tell nbc news that top biden administration officials are becoming increasingly concerned about how the israelis are conducting the war and are uncertain about whether they can be reigned in. the u.n. is warning of a catastrophe, and a number of dead in gaza is rising with thousands of children among the casualties. to the north, the border between israel and lebanon is simmering. the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, stopped short of saying whether hezbollah would enter the war. joining us from ashdod, israel, is nbc news foreign correspondent raf sanchez. the bombing campaign that we have been seeing in gaza is intense, and we are hearing from those within gaza, hospital systems are basically collapsed, that there's no fuel. there's a shortage of food and water, that getting to the rafah border crossing is harrowing. people don't know if they're going to be killed by an israeli strike trying to get out of there. what can you tell us about what's going on there today? >> reporter: well, earlier today, katy, there was what appears to be an israeli strike in southern gaza, the area that's supposed to be safe for palestinian civilians fleeing to the north where the fighting is concentrated, our unbelievably courageous colleagues inside gaza, our local camera crew were able to get to the site, and they met a father there who had gone out to the market briefly to buy what few goods he could at the market in gaza. and he came back and he found that his residential building has been destroyed, and that his five children and his wife were missing somewhere under the rubble, and he was digging frantically with their hands. they were able to find his 10-year-old daughter, but the rest of his family is missing under the rubble. he is praying for a miracle, but it would be a miracle. his 10-year-old daughter, took her in an ambulance. our crew was there as this exhausted medic took a couple of seconds to take the pulse and confirm he was dead. you can only imagine what the they have seen. up in the north, it struck an ambulance near the el shifa hospital, moving across the battlefield in northern gaza, the military has said the complex has underneath it a vast network of tunnels, hamas command centers. nbc news hasn't been able to independently confirm that, but it wouldn't be a surprise, given the scale of what hamas calls the metro system underneath gaza. israeli troops, hamas fighters are engaging at close quarters. this is difficult, urban warfare that's going on in the north of gaza right now. israeli continues to say that it wants the remaining civilians in the north to flee south, it is saying there are what they call humanitarian valves, encirclement of gaza city that allows civilians to get out. it remains an absolutely harrowing situation inside gaza one month into this war. >> raf sanchez, thank you very much, and the death toll is also rising in the occupied west bank. repeated clashes between palestinians and the israeli army along with violent confrontations with israeli settlers who have illegally moved into the territory according to international law. nbc news chief foreign correspondent speaks to palestinians who say they have been harassed and tortured since the war began. >> with tensions already high across the middle east, now there's this. these palestinian men were apprehended by israeli soldiers. palestinians are comparing this video to the abuse and humiliation carried out by u.s. troops at iraq's abu grade prison. two human rights groups tell us they are investigating the circumstances. while it's unclear where or when the incident took place and the circumstances surrounding it, israel is not denying it. in a statement, the israel defense forces tells nbc news the conduct seen in the footage is deplorable and does not comply with the army's orders. we are familiar with the incident and it's being reviewed by the commanders. disciplinary actions will be applied accordingly. it was not an isolated incident. this photo on israeli social media shows three men stripped, bound and confined in an animal pen. one of them is mohammed. >> you can see where the wires were. >> reporter: he told me he was beaten by jewish settlers, eight hours after the hamas massacre. he was urinated on, rolled in manure, kicked and hit with rifles. the israeli military told us a commander involved was removed from his post and an investigation has been opened. do you think they're doing this more now, emboldened, more aggressive action after october 7th. before it was only physical assault, after they started shooting and attacking, he said. mutar is a humanitarian worker for the palestinian authority. the moderate palestinian government in the west bank, that israel hopes will replace hamas in gaza. on october 7th, hamas murdered 1,400 israelis including entire families and took more than 40 hostages, including children, since then, jewish settlers living on palestinian land in the west bank have dramatically increased attacks on civilians. >> we have seen an uprise in settler and military violence towards palestinian in the west bank, and i think that in a way, the settlers mainly are exploiting the fact that all eyes are on gaza, in order to, you know, complete the task and take over more and more palestinian land. >> eliana and hasir, were collected olives, they're christians. jewish settlers last week attacked them without provocation. halia told me one of the settlers grabbed him in the groin, squeezed and said i'm going to crush them. he was then hit repeatedly with a heavy stick, leaving bruises all over his body. iliana tried to intervene. i said why are you hitting us, then she was hit. her arm is broken in two places from a single blow. he never called the police. >> they don't do anything, he says, they don't even answer. . a new u.n. report 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