>> tonight, donald trump jr. takes the stand, in new york civil fraud case against the former president. wait under earth about his family's business. then, house speaker mike johnson looking to tie aid for israel to cuts to the irs. a move that would add billions to the deficit and hookup rich tax evaders. and i go one-on-one with the funds himself, henry winkler breaks down the impact of his iconic character. you do not want to miss this as the 11th hour gets underway on this wednesday night. >> good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle, live at nbc headquarters here at the rockefeller center. donald trump's eldest son goes under oath in the 250 million dollar civil fraud trial against the former president and his family business. donald trump junior took the stand late today in a new york courtroom, before he testified managed to do what he loves to do most. crack a joke. >> i should've won make of. >> today prosecutors focused on his job running the trump family business with his younger brother eric. a role his father announced before entering the white house back in 2017. >> my two sons who are right here, don and eric. they are going to be running the company, they are going to be running it in a very professional manner. they are not going to discuss it with me. these papers are just some of the many documents that i've signed turning over complete and total control to my sons. >> donald trump jr. is not just a witness in the case, he is also a defendant along with his brother and his that. and we see's laura jarred has more on today's testimony. >> tonight, the former presidents eldest son inside a manhattan courtroom. donald trump junior, the first of his siblings to testify in a 250 million dollar civil law fraud lawsuit against the family's real estate business. new york's attorney general accusing the republican front runner, his sons, and his company of inflating assets to get better terms on loans and insurance. pointing to don junior's signature on documents, certifying the accuracy of the company's financial statements. which include assets like mr. trump's apartment in manhattan. listed as 30,000 square feet, when it is actually a third of that size. today, he was pressed by the state about his role of executive vice president of the trump organization. don jr. saying he relied on outside accountants who prepare the financial statements. he said blasted the suit from the -- and the judge, also a democrat, as a partisan kangaroo court. >> it doesn't matter what general practices the business would be, it doesn't matter, they have a narrative, they have an end goal, and they will do whatever it takes to get there. >> the judge has already ruled in the states favor on the central fraud claim, much of the trial is to determine -- when, while the former president the much olin -- donald trump jr. is expected to return to the stand tomorrow. eric trump is also slated to testify on thursday. the former president is set to appear on monday. and right now his daughter ivanka is set to testify next wednesday. meanwhile, a federal judge in florida is considering giving trump exactly what hs, delaying his upcoming classified documents trial, it's supposed to begin on may 20th but trump no surprise wants it postponed until after the 2024 election. with, that let's get smart with the help of our leadoff panel. caroline ng is here, pulitzer prize-winning investigative reporter with the washington post, david fahrenthold, a new york times investigative reporter who won a pulitzer for the -- trump's terrible jahmai shuns. and former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. okay, choice. the judge here in new york has already ruled -- the judge ruled in advance of trial that the corporate fraud was established. that is no longer needed to be considered. but there is still six separate charges that involve false statements that were made one fraudulent statements were submitted to banks. so the judge is evaluating that. but remember, steph, he also has this overarching question of how much of their ill gotten gains the group will have to decipher -- attorney general asking for $250 million, and part of this testimony is evidence the judge can consider in arriving at the number. >> let's say the judge comes up with a number, when will donald trump actually have to write the check and paste? like i want to know, has he written e. jean carroll the check for $5 million? even though, whatever, $10, 000, thousand dollar fines he is getting tied to his gag order, to see actually writing these checks, is it happening? >> e. jean carroll first, that is an unusual situation because normally when someone who loses in the trial wants to take an appeal, they have to file an appeal bond. but for whatever reason, donald trump couldn't get one or didn't get one, and he actually wrote a check for that amount that is sitting in escrow, waiting for the outcome of the appeal. something that is similar that would happen, here if you wanted to appeal, this is of course understate procedures, not federal. it is a different bit. he would rather have to get an appeal bond or write a check for the entire amount. so in that sense, steph, there is some immediacy. but of, course in the e. jean carroll case, that money is not sitting in e. jean carroll's bank account yet. >> all right, david, you have covered the family business. but better than anyone i know. what did you think was the key part of junior's testimony today? besides his huge oak about makeup which he may have been wearing, we don't know. >> well, the only real substance they got to today was this question of what his input was into these financial statements that they had been found to be wrong and fraudulent. and what donald trump junior has said was, well, yeah, i find, them but i didn't know it was in, them i trust that there would be taken care of. that is important to me because there is sort of two totally divergent strands of argument that the trumps are making. on the one hand, donald trump is saying, look, yes, i provide these numbers to the accountants and they passed them on to lenders and other people. but there was a clause saying that they were just numbers and a should not go tragically themselves, often just. some donald trump jr.'s is saying the opposite. but it was the accountants, it was the other people he trusted to provide these numbers, and none of them came from him. i don't think you can argue that both ways, that is the accountants fault or the accountants do nothing for very long. that seems to be what they are. trying >>, okay i'm sorry, i'm gonna run a, time but i have to go back to joyce. joyce, isn't that the reason you sign a document. right? if you didn't decide, it then the accountants would just do their thing and they would mail it in. what the point of signing on the dotted line saying i agree that everything here is factually correct deny except the liability, isn't that the point of signing one's name? >> absolutely, they are trying to have it both ways here. this is not a judge who will let them get away with it. you, know steph, the thing that underlines this whole case is this notion that we have a financial system that works because banks can have confidence that when businesses submit these sorts of documents, they can be relied upon -- trump try to turn them on their, head everyone, doesn't have windows or numbers were bad so there's really no harm, no foul here. and that is just not how any of this works. >> there is harm there is foul, if they were lying about the value of their business to get more favorable terms from a bank's. yeah, there's arm. carol, prosecutors in this civil case revealed evidence that our colleague andrew weissmann said it could be hugely important to both jack smith and fani willis. what does it mean to their cases? what is he talking about? >> sorry, i couldn't read that fast enough. i think it had something to do with winning the election. try me again, stuff. >> andrew weissmann is saying that there is evidence that the prosecutor put forward that jack smith and fani willis are going to go crazy for. what could it be? >> i really have no idea other than -- >> basically he knew he didn't win the election? >> right, but i mean, so much other evidence. i usually agree with andrew about so many things. but there is so much information to let us know that donald trump knew that he didn't win the election. not least of which, great reporting by the washington post on the new york times, colleagues of mine including david. talking about how, you know, when he was speaking with some of his most important advisers after the election, he said, can you believe i didn't win pennsylvania? can you believe i didn't win georgia? i mean, he literally said that to kellyanne conway. so he had some instinct and some knowledge and some awareness when he was in private that this is not really the way it goes. of course, there is something else jacks mitt house, which is that every single person donald trump relied on to give him advice about, you know, as donald trump junior said, that is what we pay him for. that is why i have cpas, well donald trump paid a lot of people and hired a lot of people to advise him on his campaign. and indeed, every single one of them told him that he had lost. the only person that i can think of that didn't tell him or i should say that we don't have proof that he told him that he lost was mark meadows. that is the only person i can think of. his campaign lawyers over and over again told him, his attorney general who had work and precedent to investigate possible fraud of the election before the election was certified, so the department of justice never does that. his attorney general told, i'm sorry, sir, there's fraud that you are claiming didn't happen, if there was any election mistake or fraud, it's too small to have changed it in your favor. >> david, donald trump's image and his busyness are tied together, his children are involved in this case, what is at stake for all of them? >> well there's sort of two levels of what is at stake, on a practical, level we have been talking about potentially large fines, judge garland actually said he wants to cancel the business certificates of these businesses that trump owns in new york. that would be sort of not an immediate process, but it could lead to a process where he would lose control of trump trump tower. many other office buildings in new york, golf courses he owns in new york. so there is a very practical concern there that they could learn the heart of the reason us in new york. wouldn't be a fatal blow to the old trump organization, it would certainly change the law. this sort of other level is the psychological level, which is this idea that all along we saw trump build this career on the apprentice, you know, he even had a sort of iconic business savvy. but he was lying about a lot of it he was just making a lot of it up. certainly there has been a lot of evidence tonight that is commit already, but this would sort of be a legal judgment all in one place when you see how much of trump's empire was basically just imaginary. it was just imagine assets, imagine value that he threw out there and got people to believe for a long time. now we are able to see behind that. i think that is almost as damaging to him as whatever properties he might lose. >> carol, new topic, trump's classified documents case, judge aileen cannon, a trump appointed judge who many people believe is quite friendly to the former president. she is now weighing a delay in the trial, i mean, if that isn't a grand slam home run for him, i don't know what is? >> no, i think pretty much every lawyer who has been on your show, and i'm going to have to count joyce in this category, has basically pressed that this would happen. every single person who has been watching closely for what judge cannon would do, especially because she leaned so hard against the law, according to every appellate judge who looked at this. every prosecutor who looked at it. she leaned against the law, to basically stop a criminal investigation in progress involving classified records just to remind, when she did that, classified records are the property of the federal government. she has no role in deciding whether or not classified records should or shouldn't be reviewed by the government. that is their property, and so when she did that, she cast a huge shadow over her reputation as a basically a person who knows the law. does she know the law if she can go that far in donald trump's favor. and i think a lot of lawyers were hoping that she would be somewhat embarrassed by that moment. and that she would carefully think through whether or not her decisions lead, again, in donald trump's favor. yet here in this instance, we don't know her motive, we don't know her intention, but she is leaning hard in his favor. and pushing against the national security division lawyer today. basically saying, you know, we can do, this judge. we have all the records, we have got all the stuff, the defense for trump says that if so voluminous we can't do it. by may 2024 we can do it and she said i just don't really believe you. >> wow, all right, joyce, new topic. the new york times is reporting that if donald trump were to get the nomination, if he were to win, his allies want him to choose lawyers who will embrace a more radical agenda. and i want to remind our audience, here is what some of his former administration lawyers told the january 6th committee about his efforts to overturn the election. watch this. >> i made it clear that i did not agree with the idea of saying that the election was stolen and putting out the stuff, which i told the president was fake. and, i didn't want to be a part of it. and that is one of the reasons that i went into me deciding to leave when i did. it's fair to say that i agree with the attorney general, attorney general's conclusion on this. yes, i did. i supported that. >> what they were proposing, i thought it was nuts. he co-chevys and the venezuelan, they have an affidavit from somebody who says they -- and something with the philippines. just all over the radar. >> so if those lawyers, if those lawyers were not on board with trump, what kind of people could we see in a second trump white house? >> this is one of the most frightening stories that i've read, and as someone who teaches and works in the area of democracy and i think this is a foundational threat to the future of this country. because donald trump would impose a litmus test for lawyers. it would have -- even taking an oath to the constitution. this would be the question that he asked of jack comey before he fired him as director of the fbi. what a need for me was loyalty. that is what he would seek from every lawyer in the executive branch. and what this means is that the justice department, the power of prosecution would become a prerogative of president donald trump. he would exercise prosecutions as a way to punish his enemies. he would and prosecutions to reward his friends. nothing is more oppositional than to give over this power to donald trump it's really interesting that stephen miller, not a lawyer, who worked for jeff sessions, and when he fell out of favor with, trump mueller stayed with trump. that he is one of the reported masterminds behind this scheme. this is nothing to do with supporting good government or the constitution. and everything to do with installing an autocratic leader. >> it just takes me back to jim comey and his book, wanting to hide and camouflage himself into the curtains because he did not want to have to answer to trump being his lawyer, his guy. remember, trump and his generals? 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>> that is exactly the right way to look at this. this is putin seeing how far he can go. and if he can over run ukraine, he has no intention of -- this is a time when we need to stick with our allies, all across europe y'all is across the world who are there to try to support ukraine. ukrainians are on the ground fighting their hearts are -- inch by inch bands progress -- that's what we need to support them to do. that is in their interest -- long-term interests. >> are you hopeful there will be a proposal that look at the aid to israel and ukraine that is needed? >> >> yes. and our plan right now is to get those married to each other, so that both of them go forward together. and i want to be clear, it is not just democrats who do, that we actually have some republicans who are strong on that in the senate as well. we just need the house to sober up. and the house leadership to get serious, stop playing games, let's get an emergency funding bill, that is the emergency funding bill that our nation needs. >> i want to ask you about our complicated economy, because the truth is, experts predicted that right now we would be in a pretty awful recession. but we are not. the economy has actually picked up, unemployment is at 3.8, however, life is not easy here. inflation is still a problem. life is expensive. we don't feel good about the economy. saying to them, what we should have been in a recession, that doesn't make them feel better. so how should the administration address this? because you know the economy is a top thing that people vote on. >> absolutely, but, you know, i want to make a slightly different point here. right now with the very high interest rates that the federation has imposed, jerome powell has made life more expensive for many americans. you have to remember this part of it. the cost of buying a home, the cost of renting, nobody is going to invest in building more housing, all because of high interest rates. it is more expensive to buy a car because of high interest rates, more expensive if you carry a balance on your credit card. so we have got this really high interest rate environment. and today the fed decided not to raise interest rates more, which i think is the right thing to do. but listen to what jerome powell said, he still talked about that maybe we need more softening in the labor economy, which is just fed speak for saying, we need to push people out of work. i think that is the wrong way to approach this economy. here, i want to give big props to the president of the united states, because what he has done is first, he has invested in americans. that is why this economy is so strong. largest infrastructure package that we have had for decades. a big investment in the climate fight. by the way, paid for by a 15% minimum corporate tax. and then, this president has gone after trump fees. you know trump feeds sound like a little thing? they are not a little thing. there is something that's taking a bite out of american's middle class, working families here. about their. so we are talking about everything from fees on concert tickets to fees on check overdrafts, to fees on credit cards. the president at his administration is -- that kind of stuff going on anymore. what you see is what you are going to pay. the latest on that has now been around retirement. the presidents administration has put forward a new rule, fiduciary rule, that says that retirees are not gonna have to pay junk fees. people who rolled money into retirement accounts -- yeah, go ahead. >> what should be done to address inflation? because it is still a problem, and jay powell doesn't have a lot of other tools. >> let's keep in mind, that inflation has come down substantially. but you've always got to make sure of what tool you are using that it addresses the problem that you have got. why has inflation come down so substantially? even though unemployment has not gone up as jay powell tried to push this economy toward? well it's partly because of what were the reasons that prices went up. a big one, of course, was the supply chain kinks. another one has been corporate price gouging. another has been rising commodity prices, partly with the war in ukraine, which we found ways around. it now partly an energy. so there are a lot of factors that jerome powell has admitted -- raising the interest rates will not affect, but they do affect inflation overall. as those wind down, we have seen inflation come down, and that is the right thing. you know, we can't just keep raising costs for consumers and saying, as jerome powell has tried to do, he wants to put people out of work. because that is how he wants to bring down inflation. it hasn't worked that way so far and i don't think it is gonna work that way in the future. >> and the good news, is the labor market is very strong right now, we just saw the autoworkers hopefully have a deal done. >> which is good news. >> senator, thank you so much for joining me tonight, i really appreciate it. >> you bet, good to see you. >> great to see you. >> coming, up the rough crossing opens for the first time, giving hundreds hope of escaping the war between israel and hamas. we will talk about the effort to get americans out, when the 11th hour continues. 99% of people over 50. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? 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>> diplomatic terms of our dear, i think a pause is usually very minimal amount of time. it could be as little as, you know, six, eight hours. to get some aid in or to effectuate the release of some people. i think what people in the arab world want is a more significant pause of several days so that the aid that you can get into gaza is truly significant. i mean, the trucks that are going in now are not even as many trucks as used to go in before the war started. now obviously the needs are much, much greater. so the question, is is it a pause to just allow some pretty modest deliveries, and perhaps to allow for the trend for some people out through that rafah crossing? or do you try to have a more substantial pause here for a period of several days to try to negotiate something bigger to get those hostages out? and to try to have a more comprehensive day delivery into gaza? frankly also to have paused the humanitarian suffering that is taking place. so the pots -- in terms of a sensation of hostility for a period of time, it's still not clear. and based on the language they have used, it strikes me that this is more of a short term pauses, not something that resembles a cease-fire. the idf says they responded to incoming fire from terrorist groups in lebanon. how worried are you out a wider conflict? is it about one? or if at this point. >> i am very worried about, to tell you the truth. i do think that one of the risks of the israeli operation as it goes forward is if you see this continued destruction in gaza and this continued scale of civilian casualties, there's a day there's people that feel compelled to get involved in the north, and even escalation there. there is also the risk that the west bank explodes in violence. and some of that is frankly being initiated by israeli settlers as well as palestinians hitting israelis. and you could even see unrest in parts of the arab world, and potentially attacks on embassies and things of that nature. there's a risk for -- obviously the muslim exhalation -- iran has proxies in, iraq their proxies in yemen, as well as lebanon,. so the issue we should bear in mind there is a risk of significant edge of escalation here. and i think that is why the administration has been trying to get the israeli government to be cautious and how it proceeds, to be mindful of issues around civilian casualties, and perhaps to leave some space for negotiation and humanitarian as the president is saying tonight. >> thank you so, much it was helpful to harry have you here, i appreciate it. when we come, back my special one-on-one with the amazing henry winkler. we talk all about the world as we know it, his life advice, and of course the phones. the 11th hour continues. my mental health was much better. but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. td can be caused by some mental health meds. and it's unlikely to improve without treatment. i felt like my movements were in the spotlight. #1-prescribed ingrezza is the only td treatment for adults that's always one pill, once daily. ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce td movements in 7 out of 10 people. people taking ingrezza can stay on most mental health meds. ingrezza can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, behaviors, feelings, or have thoughts of suicide. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including angioedema, potential heart rhythm problems, and abnormal movements. report fevers, stiff muscles, or problems thinking as these may be life threatening. sleepiness is the most common side effect. it's nice. people focus more on me. ask your doctor about #1 prescribed, once-daily ingrezza. ♪ ingrezza ♪ it's about spike. you, know he still youngster, and i think you could use some discipline. you know, center rules to live by. >> the kid lives by the same rules as the phones, live fast, love hard, don't let anybody else use your comb. >> hollywood actors love to reinvent themselves, but for henry wangler, abandoning the fans just isn't cool. he is writing all about it in his new book being henry, the phones, and beyond. i get a very special chance to catch up with him. watch this. >> fonds is the character your most famous for. and you love him. >> i do. >> so many people who are tied to one character, one brand, they get sick of it. they don't want to be tied to it, they feel like it weighs them down, and you don't feel that way? >> i think it is short sighted, because look, i wanted to not be typecast, so i meet stacey. >> your wife. >> i am going on a first date, her four year old, jed, opens the door. i am a candle on his cake a few months before i meet stacey. >> the phones? is >> the phones. >> okay. i am a candle. and he opens the, door he goes, iphones. and i, like a moron, look at him with sincerity and i say, my name's henry. would you like it if i called you ralph? i am now arguing with a four-year-old about not being typecast. >> and stacey let you? when >> she wasn't there getting ready. she was, she didn't, thank god she didn't hear it. >> but you, change the talk about in the book, there was an extraordinary moment where you meet a young woman with autism. and she says, phones! and the first time, it was the first time she spoken word. is that when you realize the power? >> no, i realized before. but this was the same other -- this little girl said, in the same voice as, jed this is amazing, i phones. and her mother dissolved. and i said, what happened? what happened? i am seeing it? she said, my daughter just said her first word ever. now part of my profession is i speak publicly. when i was the chairman, honoré chairman for the special olympics there was not one athlete who did not surround me at ucla at their annual meeting, and they were the phones. >> they love arthur holmes. relief >> they loved him. and they literally saw themselves. hey, they were all the phones. you just said, a huge headed for us. let me tell you something. i want to tell you the funds, it's not about you -- [laughter] >> oh my god, i can't believe that just happened. >> what? when i am lying in, that i am -- dreaming, will this ever happens? then i get to play this character. and then this happens, remember, i started to -- i get to play a character, and this happens. then you, think it is digger then you. it is, this is bigger than you. >> there is something else i want to talk, about there's boston we, spoke we talked about politics. you thought it was important to have a voice. things have taken a turn since we last spoke, in this country, in the, world there is not one but two wars going on -- it is so important for you in your life to spread love and positivity enjoy. how do you feel about this heat spreading right now. why is it? -- it almost feels like it is out of our control or getting to be out of our control. >> are you scared? >> i am petrified, but i am petrified mostly for the, for my grandchildren, for their friends from to the house for sleep overs. >> there are good people doing great things every single day. >> yes, yes. >> are you surprised by this extraordinary rise in hate antisemitism? >> now, -- what is your one piece of advice for people? and people starting out as they are looking at the world like you once were. >> i now know that the power comes from people being who they are. being authentic. people have asked me over the years, you played cool, i am cool, what is cool. i didn't have an answer. and then it finally struck me, who is being dynamically you. it is a magnetic when you meet somebody and you just know that your meeting their authentic body, person in that body. if we did that, we wouldn't have to worry about banning books or, you know, we would teach our children that you will figure it out. you can read it and you know, yes, i will do that. >> so your life advice as you do you. >> yes, and eat, eat well. >> yeah, wow. >> henry, thank you so much. >> do yourself any well, coming up, and activity the chara. we remember matthew perry, not as chan leaving but i really wanted to remember, his message of hope and resilience. when the 11th hour continues. only $41 on dealdash. dealdash.com, online auctions since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only $56. i got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. - [young alec] my favorite people in shriners are the doctors and the nurses, because they help people through life. - [adult alec] wow, i was a really cute kid, (laughs) but it's true. shriners hospitals for children is awesome. the first time i went to shriners hospitals for children, i was two months old. because of their care, now i live a full, independent life. i got my driver's license, and i'm going to college. when you call right now, and give just $19 a month, only 63 cents a day, we'll send you this adorable blanket as your reminder of the journey you helped me make, and the journey you're helping other kids make too. - it's amazing to know that there's someone looking out for me and my family. - and it isn't just the doctors and nurses who have been looking out for me. it was you. pick up your phone or go to loveshriners.org, >> the best thing about me, and you'll be a part of something special too. barr none, is if somebody comes up to me and says i can't stop drinking, can you help me? 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