hostages were gathered to pressure the government not to forget their loved ones. amid the fury to attack hamas. elie's daughter is a soldier kidnapped from a watchtower in kibbutz -- all the guards were women. hamas killed 12 of them, and kidnapped six or seven. that is leery in the glasses. >> we received the message that the army released girls. i hope that is my daughter. i hope. >> elie checks to see of maybe the rescue soldier is leery. not tonight. >> not my daughter, but she was there. >> how does that make you feel? >> it makes me happy. even if it is not my daughter, it makes me happy. >> the rescued hostages leary's friends, private ori megidish, captured from the watchtower and freed from israeli troops carrying out the ground defensive in gaza last night. they say she's doing well medically and has met with her family. hamas has plenty more hostages in gaza. israel tonight raising their estimate to 239, including 33 children. hamas is taunting israel with them. they released a video of three israeli captives. israeli prime minister netanyahu under fire for not taking responsibility, for being unprepared for hamas's surprise attack, says there will be no cease-fire, that israel must retaliate for the 1400 israelis killed. >> just as the united states would not agree to a cease fire after the bombing of pearl harbor, or after the terrorist attack of 9/11, israel will not agree to this with hamas after the horrific attacks of october 7th. this is a time for war. >> in gaza, more than 2 million civilians are suffering because of war they did not start, cannot escape, which is escalating by the day. according to the health ministry run by hamas, more than 8000 palestinians have been killed so far. >> let's get right to my colleague, nbc ellison barber, she was at the israel gaza border where it is now just after 6 am. excuse me, five a. m.. alison, good to see you, good to see you there safely. the last time you and i spoke, it was late friday night my time. you were hearing more ruckus, more strikes than you had ever heard before. things were getting intense. would have been like since then? >> it has stayed this. way when we spoke last, massive artillery bombardments into northern gaza. tonight, we're still hearing artillery, but we're seeing a lot more rockets as well as what appeared to be flare bombs fired into northern gaza. there's been a main pocket on the ridge. if you watch as you talk, you might see some of it again. we have seen just a constant flow of rockets, and again what appears to be a flare bombs fired in that direction northwest gaza's were israeli forces first entered the gaza strip. they've been inside gaza since friday. there are reports from inside gaza saying that israeli tanks have been cited near gaza city. remember, israel has said they plan to focus most of their military efforts on northern gaza and gaza city. they say that's where hamas militants primarily operate out of. the orange goes along the skyline have been constant as they just pounded this entire section of northern gaza. you see some flair, something right up there in the sky again. this happens every few minutes, at one point i counted at least four explosions in the skyline within about 33 seconds. , so there has certainly been an escalation from what we heard from prime minister netanyahu tonight. there's no plans to back off from this. you see that landing back there, very strongly said that they do not plan to consider a cease-fire, believing that that would be in their view surrendering to hamas, which is something that an hanyu says he absolutely will not do. report that little bit on this, but another big issue is the hostages inside of gaza, and families, many of them are now calling on israeli government to consider an exchange. they say released a 4000-plus palestinian prisoners in israeli jails, so that 230 people still believed to be held hostage inside gaza can all be returned at once. when asked specifically about that at a press conference with foreign journalist, netanyahu said he would not give any details on what they are talking about, but says he believes ground offensive is going to put pressure on hamas and that hamas will only respond to pressure. there is a lot of concern amongst families about the hostages who are still inside gaza. many are believed to be held in the tunnel systems, underneath gaza, and that is exactly what israeli military has said. they are targeting in their aerial bombardments. again, we expect ground forces to stay in israel. they have told the israeli citizens, the israeli military has that this will be a very long war. while the u. n. says they think at the end of this, stephanie, and this is what the unicef, the head of yourself said when speaking to you are security council, she said the true toll of this war will be measured in the lives changed amongst children. they will be impacted by violence, and those who have experienced it. she said that is true on both sides by their estimates they said they believe about 400 children are dying inside of gaza almost every day. not to mention, children who were killed on the october 7th attack, the children who witnessed their parents and loved ones being massacred on october 7th, and the 33 children believed to be held by hamas militants inside gaza. stephanie. >> 400 children dying every day. there are still children being held hostage. alison barber, thank you so much for your reporting. i want to bring into the conversation ambassador dennis ross. distinguished fellow at washington institute for near east policy. he was a former middle east convoy, and top peace negotiator in the bush clinton administration. surprise winning journalist, senior executive editor for national security, and from the hostage himself. ambassador, netanyahu has made it clear, a cease-fire is not happening. the white house has even said it is not the right thing great known. with you think? >> i think the cease-fire will leave hamas intact. it leaves it with its military certainly existing and something we've built. it leaves it with overall leadership in control, not really being challenged. i think there is a difference between a cease-fire, which basically repeats what we have seen before, 2009, 2012, 2014, 2021, where hamas basically used a cease-fire to itself, and sets itself up to do what we saw on october 7th. that said, i think you can have a humanitarian pause. a pause to get assistance in, a pause that allow certain quarters to be created. there is a difference between a pause that you do for humanitarian purposes, and a cease-fire that basically allows hamas to do what it has done before. >> david, israel is in gaza now. what are the up against? >> so far, they haven't really entered the densely populated parts of gaza strip. once they get into gaza city, i think they will face urban warfare. block to block fighting. expectations hamas will be coming out of the tunnels and ambushing israeli soldiers. the other thing they'll be facing again i think that these hostages. we talked about it earlier, there will be pressure on netanya to try and make deals. it's hard to take track of all this. simmons reported that there was real momentum towards a possible release of more hostages on friday. what tomas was demanding was a humanitarian pause, we are just talking about, for fuel to come into gaza. netanyahu said, no, and there was a very aggressive operation after. that the danger is, this argument that the more military pressure hamas feels, i hate to say this, but i think israeli troops get close to one of these locations where the hostages are going to be held, hamas will kill those captives. i do not see them just giving up and letting hostages go as military, as israeli military approach. a terrible situation hamas's fault, but that is the question. at least humanitarian pause, is the short, deals you get to, six, ten, hostages out of that is something that israel could try. >> ambassador, to all of those people in gaza who are suffering. what is their way out? >> the only way out for them, unfortunately, is hamas is no longer using them as hostages as well. we tend to think of, we focus on the hostages they took. they're holding an entire population hostage. that's been the case. everything they do with human shields is a way of protecting themselves. everybody talks about 300 miles of tunnels. the tunnels are not used to protect any palestinians. i spoke to a friend of mine in gaza and she made the point of her and her family -- hamas leaders are all underground. so, these tunnels are for their fires, weapons, for their leaders, but not the public. so, the public is exposed. israel has said, called on, made telephone calls, had basically told palestinians in northern part of gaza to go to the south. about 1 million palestinians have gone to the south, i think one of the things israelis do need to do is when they emphasize going to the south, israelis also have an obligation to help ensure that when they go to the south, it's safe for them, and be that there are court orders for humanitarian assistance. i think the rest of the world could look somewhat differently with every israelis are doing, and makes it clear that they are fighting hamas. they are not trying to punish palestinian people. i would like to see more of that, that's where i think a pause to allow assistance in is useful. >> we learned today there was another attack on u.s. forces in iran. there have been, excuse me iraq, there have been 24 since october 17th. where are these attacks on u. s. forces coming from, and why? >> it's iran. there is a whole legion of iranian proxies. >> hence why i misspoke. >> they are guarding, us and israeli officials i spoke with on friday said they talked about iran wanting to have terror armies surrounding. it would be hamas in the south, and gaza, and hezbollah in the north. there is iranian proxies in iraq and syria. that is the danger here. i think the u.s. and iran are sort of shadow boxing each other. the u.s. has moved east carriers into the region. they're showing, to not escalate this to not have hezbollah attack northern israel, because the u.s. will use force. the iranians will push back. it's just tit-for-tat. that's the nightmare scenario that this becomes a regional war, that iran engages. nobody knows, i hate to talk on these terms, but what number of palestinian dead. we're at 1000 no, would somehow trigger this sort of response from iran. so, it's a very dangerous situation. , again that's why i sort of agree. humanitarian quarters. it's how israel does this. i think instead of just no cease-fire, no humanitarian quarters, no we have assistance coming in, that is not i think the best raji for israel. easy for me to say, again, they have a right to try and eliminate hamas. but, there's a way to be careful about how they're going about the offensive. >> david, thank. you ambassador, thank you so much. as this humanitarian situation in gaza becomes more desperate, hospitals are more than just places to heal the wounded. they are now on the frontlines in israel's war against hamas. watch this. >> i have run out of words to describe the humanitarian situation. the injuries, the fear, the lack of clean water to drink. the trauma. the lack of food. >> a disaster on top of a disaster. health needs are soaring, and our ability to meet those needs is rapidly declining. >> -- very limited amount of medication. this is catastrophic and disaster situation. >> i want to bring an icu doctor, she is the medical director of medglobal and currently in cairo leading the emergency response. thank you so much for being here. tell us what it is really like there. what are doctors on the ground telling you? >> in the last 25 days, we've spoken to doctors as much as possible, except for the almost 24 hours that have been. every day we're hearing stories about the moral injury they are facing, about not having the right tools or resources because they've run out of hospital supplies. as a doctor myself, i can say that this moral injury of not being able to treat somebody when i know exactly what they need, they know what these patients need, they know how to treat, and they don't have the resources to do that. that desperation in their voice of pleading with international communities. that is what we're hearing from them every day. every single day. it is just worse and worse. >> i know you're trying to coordinate getting supplies through the border with egypt. what is stopping, what is the roadblock with getting to see through? >> what i want to focus on is the fact that, previously there was more than one pathway into gaza. they were almost 466 trucks going in every single day. right now, we're limited to one pathway into gaza through the rafah border. there are many security checks necessary that have to happen, but i think looking at ways to streamline and cruising capacity at the border, the actual crossing in is not big enough for more than -- so, looking at ways to increase the capacity and just get it in, that's a huge part of it. it's not just what is happening at the rafah border itself, i know a lot of people have talked about fuel. but, without fuel, without a way to transport the supplies, you can only get things across the border. you cannot get them across gaza. to the hospitals where people, while most 170,000 people are sheltering around hospitals. that is just people sheltering around hospitals. 1. 4 million people displaced. if we cannot get to them, getting across the border is almost useless. i think that's the most important part to keep in mind is that just getting across the border is just one part. actually being to safely disseminated, across gaza to the people in aid is an absolute priority. >> what equipment to those hospitals need most right now? >> the list is exhaustive. what we hear is, right now the major thing doctors is dealing with is trauma surgeries. try marie surgery, dealing with wounds, making sure that fractures and things can be fixed with the right type of hardware. making sure that surgical supplies are available and sterilized. we're not putting patients in danger. making sure everything is available. i can go on and on because the list is exhaustive. this is really centered around dealing with trauma injuries, were injuries, that is unable to be contained. if that happens, the long term effects of that is quite challenging. we're learning that in the context of every single war that we have seen. we have seen that in ukraine, we've seen that in yemen, we've seen that in syria. it will happen again here. the yacht long term consequences of proper management of war wounds because we don't have resources. >> are there enough beds in the southern part of gaza? israel has made it clear to those in gaza city, get out of where you are, head south. but, for those who are in hospital in gaza city, is there a place for them to safely go? how to get there? >> to answer your first question. there are not enough beds. there are not enough beds where people are currently located, and to bring entire population of people from different hospitals to the south, that is not possible. the second thing is, as an icu doctor, i can tell you there are books written about this, the danger of transporting people who are unstable. thinking about doing that without maybe the proper amount of oxygen, medications, the kind of support emergencies that might happen along the way. you might not have enough battery power to run a ventilator. that might be necessary to transport babies in incubators from the north of gaza all the way down to the south. when you think about the logistics of transferring people from within a hospital, and we spent hours preparing patients to transfer within one hospital, imagine from one hospital to another part of the country. so, just thinking that through is almost like a death sentence. there needs to be a guarantee or a way to transport these patients in a safe way where they just wouldn't survive. that >> i'm out of time, but i do want to ask you quickly. what is your message to world leaders in the u.s. and egypt and israel? what do you want them to know? >> what i want them to know is that there are 2. 2 million people suffering. our focus as a humanitarian organization is how we can get aid in, aid workers in the how we have colleagues or dr. suffering. they are exhausted. we need a way to provide support. that is what we asked humanitarian organizations are focusing on, and we are pleading to the international war to allow that to happen. >> thank you so much for all the work you do, doctor. i appreciate you joining us. >> thank you. >> when we come back, donald trump gagged again in a federal election interference case. the judges vowed to treat the former president like any other defendant. barb mcquade and mark mckinnon are here. later, antisemitism and islamophobia on the rise on college campuses. we'll be speaking with two leaders who met with top white house officials on the administration's new plan to keep students safe. the 11th hour just getting underway. we'll be very important monday night. attention hearing loss sufferers! do you struggle to hear loved ones? 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