The ongoing manhunt in lewiston, maine. And the surrounding communities. Where theres fear among residents this may not be over. E death toll from two separate shootings at a Bowling Alley and restaurant is 18 with 13 others injured, after a senseless assault devastating the community and the state of maine. Look, lewiston is a special place. Its a closeknit community with a long history of hard work, persistence, of faith, of opening its big heart to people everywhere. I love this place, just as i love our whole state with my entire heart. Im so deeply saddened, as is everyone of the 1. 3 Million People of this beautiful state. This city did not deserve this terrible assault on its citizens, on its peace of mind, on its sense of security. No city does. No state, no people. This Attack Strikes at the very heart of who we are and the values we hold dear for this precious place we call home. Devastating and emotional for the governor and all the residents. Photos released overnight show a man in a sweatshirt with a long gun with a scope. Police are revealing new details in their search for 40yearold suspect robert card. A trained Firearms Instructor who reported Mental Health issues and is considered armed and very dangerous. Theres an Arrest Warrant for eight counts of murder for mr. Card. The reason its eight counts, because ten people have not yet been identified. As those people are identified, the counts will probably go to the total of 18. He should be considered armed and dangerous. Based on our investigation, we believe this is someone that should not be approached. It was a Rough Night Last night. We are committed to bringing whoever is responsible to justice. Again, we are currently looking for mr. Card right now. Someone we would like to apprehend. President biden was briefed wednesday night during the white house state dinner. He is receiving updates. Joining me now, Antonia Hylton in lewiston, tom winter, former atf Hostage Negotiator and Special Agent in charge Jim Kavanaugh and frank figliuzzi. Antonia, tell us more. The officials deeply affected by the horror in their small community. How much of the area is on lockdown . Reporter andrea, the horror is the only word to describe it here. We are learning more about the investigation, the manhunt underway. They are looking for robert card. He moved from being A Person Of Interest to fully being a suspect. As you mentioned, there are now these eight counts of homicide likely to go up to 18. Thats the number the governor confirmed of people were killed as a result of all of this, between the multiple sites of the shootings last night. We are learning more about what happened, whats transpired in recent hours at the Medical Center behind me. A doctor just spoke out describing some of the scene here, how it has been an around the clock effort to save lives, how people arrived here just within minutes. Three people died here at this site. Three others are in critical condition. Other people have been transferred to other Medical Centers. Theres heartbreak. The shock and grief. This is a tightknit community. These are frequent hangouts. A lot of people in the community saying there was a youth night at the Bowling Alley. Immense heartbreak and concern over what more we will find out about victims and the profile of the people affected here. Theres just the psychological terror of knowing that robert card is still out there, that he is armed and likely dangerous according to authorities. People have described how last night they turned the lights out in their home, they were anxious, wanted to make sure there was no sign, nothing that would attract someone to come by and visit their property. People were checking on their vehicles, locking them up, locking up their barns. That level of anxiety and the knowledge that theres more to this investigation to come. The person has not been apprehended. Just adds layer upon layer to the pain. I dont think you can see it, but at the Medical Center there have been police on the scene all day who have long guns. A reminder of the threat, the continuing threat here. Reporters have been asking about that. They have been pretty mum about the details. We know now that men and women were affected. We are not hearing, for example, how many minors may or may not have been affected. We know from Community Members who are saying they are reaching out, looking for sons or loved ones. We get a sense this has deeply impacted likely multiple generations and people all over this community and all over this county. Thank you. Stay with us. Tom winter, its very clear that what you could hear it in the governors voice, the exhaustion from this. What are you hearing from your sources to build on what we are hearing from officials, Law Enforcement here . How could it be that individuals arent identified . An ar15 style rifle fired at close range, as it appears it was, is going to cause such damage to a human being that identification can be difficult. We have seen that in other Mass Shootings. Its something that occurs tragically, unfortunately. I dont think you need any more details than that. We dont know his location. Thats the Main Department of Public Safety commissioner said that. We need to take him at his word that they dont know where this individual was. Otherwise, they would probably have him surrounded at this point. The focus for this man is to try to determine where he is, to speak to him, and to make an approach. This is a very dangerous situation, because unlike a lot of mass shooters, this person has specific training, firearms training. They are going to be matching his fire power. This is a situation where its not just a handgun or a Hunting Rifle or a shotgun. This is somebody who has the same type of weaponry as the people that will try to Con Friend Him and end a clear threat to the community in maine. This is a little bit different than other situations where we have been looking for a suspect. Different from a prison break, somebody who has quite a bit of knowledge about the area. Its very rural. There are challenges to that. It has not been particularly cold and certainly not by maines standards. Its not as if comfort is going to flush him out. Theres concern about that as well. Not that anybody that ever commits one of these heinous crimes is of right mind mentally, but this individual appears to have quite significant Mental Health issues. Of course, that plays into that as well. Theres an all of new england approach. Theres a number of small states up there. Everybody likes to help out. The state Police Agencies in particular are very close in new england. So thats why you see the New Hampshire state police sending their helicopter over to maine to help them out. They were up until the wee hours, until 2 00 a. M. This morning. Eyre working together. They are trying to do the most they can. Of course, they are being assisted by a very robust boston fbi field office. That field office, frank figliuzzi, bring us behind the scenes there. You have the fbi. They have got very good the latest technology for dna for identification. That could be of help. What about the fbi presence . You have so many states, small states, neighboring states that work together. I would assume that the feds are looking at massachusetts and New Hampshire, vermont. What about canada and the border . This is where the fbi certainly comes into play. The vast federal resources im sure tom and i are both working our sources. We are learning that they are on the ground. We heard the fbi Special Agent in charge of boston rattle off some of the resources being deployed. Some in the air, some coming soon as their flights fly in. Im struck at these times by the spectrum and disparity of good oldfashioned police work contrasted with stateoftheart technology and techniques being applied. You mentioned dna, for example. A few years back, the fbi perfected rapid dna. Sadly, its used in part to identify unidentifiable victims and match them with family members. You take a sample from the family member. You take a sample from the unidentified remains. You develop a dna profile in an hour or less, which is astounding. You are able to bring closure there. Technical resources the fbi has got on the way or on the ground that they are things we shouldnt talk about. And then oldfashioned police on patrol but also canines. In a recent escape in pennsylvania, it was the hightech Heat Signature in the aircraft that helped isolate this individual in the woods. It was also a police dog that ended up pinning down his location and literally pinning him down. You will see all of that come into play here. Jim kavanaugh, theres a large range of outcomes with the suspect at large. How important is the guidance from Law Enforcement to the community to avoid any potential Hostage Situations or additional deaths . Its critical. This mass murderer, on a homicidal rampage, is different than an escaped prisoner like frank was describing a few weeks ago in pennsylvania. Thats a person who wants to get away. They are looking for the border. They just want to get away from everybody. They dont want to confront anybody. They are not looking to kill people. They are looking to escape. They might kill someone for the means of escape. Thats a lot different than a person who shows up at the Bowling Alley strapped to the nines with his Military Rifle and his scope. He has got virtual magazins around him. He goes to a second and massacres. Thats a different set of circumstances that Law Enforcement and citizens in new england are dealing with. This guy is extremely dangerous. He could be dead. He could have been spent after that second spree, shot himself out in the woods or behind a warehouse somewhere. But if he hasnt, then, you know, whats he going to do . He is going to pop out and want to kill another crowd of people or confront police. As frank said, all the state police and federal agencies are bringing all the Law Enforcement resources. In atf, we have a tactical team. The fbi has it. There will be plenty of resources up there. They have to spread them out. When they get a report of a sighting, they can get a team there quickly. Thats when minutes count. You dont want it to be just a Patrol Officer or a couple of Patrol Officers who have to confront him if you have that many resources in the area. Thats where in the joint Operation Center we set up, you will have all the commanders you saw in the Press Conference assembled there, and the decisions are paid there where to deploy teams, what other teams are necessary. Like frank said, we bring in agents and those agents first and foremost are detectives. Fbi, atf, they are investigators. They interview witnesses, neighbors. They operate like detectives. A lot of that is going on. Of course, theres tactical teams like we see on the feed here that have the vehicles and they have all the armor and special rifles. Then you also have special things like dogs and night vision and air assets. You add all that together. Whats the one most important thing in all of it . Its the citizens who would call in if they saw the guy or heard a shot or saw something suspicious. Then you can swarm that area just like happened in that recent pennsylvania escapee. He was reported. A Burglar Alarm went off. Officers responded and then they swarmed the area. He was picked up on the infrared radar. He was captured by the canine. Its responding to those incidents of alarms, reports, ci sightings and getting there as quick as you can. Dont want to respond to more shots fired. You would like to catch him before that. Its so helpful. Frank figliuzzi, i want to read an excerpt of what one of robert cards neighbors told nbc news. Thats one person, one witness who our team has talked to. We can approach this on two different ends of the spectrum. First, very operationally right now in real time that may impact the way the police are approaching the family. Even a Search Warrant for wherever he resides is fraught with challenges, tactically about not just waltzing in but rather bringing your bomb techs with you, perhaps even bomb sniffing dogs, perhaps using a robot, which is now becoming commonplace, to go in and look around. Maybe you get cooperation from family. Maybe you dont. Maybe they dont know how he has rigged the residence up. Thats on the real time scale. On the macro scale, this is where we are in society. Heavily armed People Living in a compound, perhaps they are antigovernment or antisociety. You dont know where this comes from. Now throw Mental Illness into the mix as has been reported. You have a perfect storm of an incredibly challenging task ahead, not only for Law Enforcement in this incident but for all of us as americans, as we try to get our hands around the Mental Health issue and the Gun Enforcement Issue all at the same time. A combustible combination tragically. Jim and frank, i know you will be back later. Thanks to all. Coming up, as Police Search for the gunman allegedly responsible for killing 18 people in maine, residents react to the unimaginable horror. Andrea mitchell reports is back in 60 seconds. Stay with us. You are watching msnbc. Why would he do this . Pray for these victims. Things have got to be changed. 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Back to our breaking News Coverage of the Mass Shootings and manhunt in maine. The governor last hour spoke about her personal connection to lewiston where the shootings took place. Lewiston is where i worked for years. Its where i met and married my husband and where our girls went to school. I love this place just as i love our whole state with my entire heart. This city did not deserve this terrible assault on its citizens, on its peace of mind, on its sense of security. Joining me now are judy meyer from lewiston and joyce vance who went to school there. The governor is speaking about her love of lewiston. What is it like there now . You have people with loss and a lockdown and fear that theres a man on the loose, a killer. Yeah. This is all happening last night and overnight, it was more like quiet shock. People went home, stores closed, everybody buttoned up. It has evolved to this point today as turning into anger and worry and frustration. Then i think thats shared by a lot of people. I know the governor said lewiston doesnt deserve this, but no city deserves this. The people here are just reeling. Judy, the father of joseph walker, who was killed, he spoke to my colleague moments ago by phone. Here is some of what he said about his beloved son. Joe was a great, great son. Loving husband. He had two grandchildren and a Stepson Living at home with them, bringing them all up. Loved thousands of people. Thousands of people loved him. I know he is gone. Ive gone through this before. I lost a daughter in a car accident over 25 years ago in lisbon. Now ive lost a son. The pain, the anguish in leroys voice, thats what the Community Must be feeling. They dont know about those that have not been identified yet. Right. The names are just being revealed now. As bad as it was, its really now getting worse. What is so awfully sad about the situation is that joseph organized this corn hole tournament, invited buddies and Neighborhood Regulars to come and spend the night. Never could have imagined this would happen. They were truly innocent in that neighborhood bar. Joyce, you went to Bates College there. You dealt with this before. What are officials facing right now and the residents facing . Events like this are shocking. The first job for Law Enforcement is safety in the community. In other words, identifyi