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Did he change any minds . Also ahead, President Bidens prime time address to the nation. His message with israel on the version of a Ground Invasion of gaza. Plus, the desperately needed humanitarian aid ready and waiting at gazas border. Will that border ever open to let it through . Good morning, happy friday, its 10 00 eastern. Im Ana Cabrera Reporting alongside my colleague and friend jose diazbalart for more continuing special coverage. And we begin with some Breaking News from capitol hill. The house about to gavel into session preparing to hold a third vote for speaker. So republican jim jordan is struggling to save his bid for the gavel, holding a News Conference just hours ahead of this vote. I think the American People are thirsty for change. I think they are hungry for leadership, and frankly, they know that the white house cant provide it. We have our capitol hill reporters gathering the latest information, our Steve Kornacki is standing by at the big board. Also with us is republican strategist and msnbc political analyst Susan Del Percio and former democratic Congressman Max Rose of new york. So steve, lets go over the numbers. What are the numbers telling you about jordans chances in this third vote . Anything could change for him . Yeah, i mean, look, i think the expectation is its going to go from bad to worse for jim jordan on this third ballot. The question would be how much worse and then what would happen as a result of that . Put this in some perspective, what youre looking at here, these are all of the republicans who voted against jim jordan on the last ballot, on the second ballot. The total number here is 22. So there were 22 republicans who voted against jim jordan. It meant that he got a total of 199 votes to be speaker of the house. Assuming that everybody is there and voting, the magic number is going to be 217. So he was significantly short of that. It means he would need to win over the vast majority of these folks who voted no here, and the problem that jordan had is on that last ballot, there were four new no votes. Four republicans who voted for him on the first ballot who then switched and voted against him on the second ballot. Drew ferguson from georgia was one of them, Marionette Miller Meeks from iowa, pete stauber, that was the question on the third ballot. Were going to track it here, how many new no votes are there . How many republicans who have voted for jordan on the first two ballots say enough is enough and vote for somebody else in the third. Weve gotten some indications from public statements from some republicans. For instance, david val day owe , hes had close reelection races. He was for jordan on the first and second ballot. After the second ballot he was one of those republicans who put out a statement saying, enough, lets move on. Lets try to find a way to get Patrick Mchenry in there shortterm. Thats off the table right now. Mark momolnaro from new york pu out a similar statement, Brian Fitzpatrick from the philadelphia suburbs put out a similar statement. A lot of republicans in the last two days were putting out statements trying to get a movement going to move away from jordan and move towards that idea of Patrick Mchenry as an extended interim speak e. That idea seemed to blow up in the republican conference yesterday. How many of those republicans are now just going to be no votes on jim jordan. So again, there were 22 total republicans who voted against him last time around. He only had a total of 199 to be speaker. Is that number going to get close to 30, the number of republicans against him on this next ballot . Is it going to go over 30 . How much frustration is there on the republican side that jordan continues to push forward with this . How much frustration is there that that idea of putting mchenry in there for an extended period kind of blew up in the conference yesterday. Is that frustration going to be reflected in the votes were about to see . Is there a group of republicans who want to send a message to jordan of enough is enough . So thats really the question here. Has he won over any of these previous no votes . All indications yesterday he met with them was no. How many new no votes, thats the open question on this next ballot, and if its a significant number, what would he do then . So were seeing the house just gathering, and they gavelled in. Theyll have a prayer, then the pledge of allegiance followed by a quorum vote thats just a roll call, saying whos present, whos going to be participating in this speaker vote. Well continue to keep an eye on whats happening there on the floor. We also anticipate some speeches, some nominating speeches that also comes before the big vote. Our ali vitali is there on capitol hill tracking all the fastmoving developments this morning. Ali, we heard from jim jordan. He spoke to his Republican Caucus trying to rally the votes, trying to win over the holdouts. Did he change anyones minds . Reporter it doesnt appear he did. You got to imagine if jim jordan were going into this vote with any more new support, he would have announced it this morning around 8 00 a. M. When he held forth with reporters. What we it get was a lesson on the Wright Brothers and the idea that the house does need to elect a speaker. Im not going into this vote anticipating that jordan is going to have any new ground swell of support. That would be welcome news for jordan allies. At the same time, when we listen to them do effectively their Home Room Attendance roll call, it will look one number different we expect because there is one member that we think might not be present today. Well wait to see when his name comes up in the roll call to be sure. It is someone if were right is a jordan backer, which would mean jordan is down one yes vote today. Well be playing the numbers game again, not in a significant way, but still notable as were in a position where every vote does count. I will say as we see Patrick Mchenry on the screen, i ran into him as he was walking into the building this morning with his usual quick pace. I asked him if he thought there was any reason to believe jordans vote totals would have significantly changed. He said id have to ask jordan. If republicans thought they were getting closer to electing a speaker, i think wed be seeing a lot more joy from within their ranks. Instead what were seeing and the conversation i just finished having was with the top three democrats urging republicans to still come back to a bipartisan solution that seemingly was abandoned yesterday. Heres some of hakeem jeffries, the top democrat in the house talking to us reporters just in the last few minutes. There are still Reasonable Republicans over on the other side of the aisle, as ive repeatedly said, good men and women who want the house reopened, who want the congress to function, and what weve said is we just want a house that allows for bipartisan bills that benefit the American People. And that was jeffries responding to my question about it seems like this bipartisan idea of Empowering Mchenry or someone whos not jim jordan seemed dead yesterday. I asked jeffries why he thought it could be revived. Thats the answer he gave me. I do also think it was notable because in my conversations with democrats, they keep leaving the door open, when i say would you empower mchenry. Jeffreys and others have continued to say this is not about any one individual for them. They do have the goal on the specific the front of making sure jim jordan is nowhere near the speakership because they call him an insurrectionist, and noting even as early this morning, he still says he thinks there were problems with the 2020 election. For democrats as long as its not jordan, there are other options, and when i asked Congressman Jeffries who those other options were, i pose some names like steve womack whos a veteran republican lawmaker here whos often in the chair because he runs votes so efficiently. Jeffries didnt weigh in specifically on womack. I think its important for us to widen our aperture a little bit. The conversation is around the current pro tem speaker mchenry. That might not be the only conversation. I do think thats a very back burner one, though, because republicans by and large balked at the idea. How about coming together on anything whether its with democrats or within their own party. It just seems like there is nothing, susan, that is coming out of this. Im wondering the difference between what happened to the former speaker and the many votes that he carried out in order to get speakership. This is round three, its probably going to be strike three. Is the mchenry option over, and if it is, is there any path forward for republicans . Well, the reason why this is probably going to be over on round three for jordan versus 15 rounds with mccarthy is no one wants to trade anything within the Republican Party. Theres no trading to get jordan up there. Plus, jordans not one to negotiate or trade. Because mccarthy was giving away the sessions and winning new votes each round even matt gaetz i think said at the end, theres nothing else to get. He gave away everything. Also, jordans a bully. Weve heard a lot of reports of Congress Members and their families being threatened because of the rhetoric going around. Some push by jordan himself, so they are literally almost coming to blows in conference. But now the question about mchenry is i think interesting because i dont know if he will be the answer, but if youre willing to create the votes to give mchenry the power, why not think about creating the votes to give someone else temporary power for maybe three months, you know, as they were talking. Can they get to anybody. Thats the question. It will be a minority of both parties having to come together to put forward a solution. It may be 105 and 115 democrats and republicans having to come together to negotiate that back door because the no votes that we see that steve went over, they are very different types of republicans out there, but the one thing they all have in common is that they want to govern, so now youre looking at 22 that want to govern. Im sure theres a lot more in that conference who want to side with that so you mentioned some threats, just the tactics that were seeing, not necessarily from jordan himself but certainly supporters of jordan, what were hearing from these other members of congress who didnt vote for jordan the first time is very much like what were hearing from ken buck, take a listen. So far ive had four Death Threats. Ive been evicted from my office in the in colorado. I have notice of an eviction because the landlord is mad with my Voting Record on the speaker issue, and everybody in the conference is getting this. Congressman, how did a speaker vote turn to . Look, theres always going to be some level of bullying when it comes to congressional politics. The level to which Congressman Buck is talking about is completely horrifying. But anytime that youre doing and hes not the only one. No, of course not. Anytime youre doing a speakers race and ive been on the Receiving End of some of these phone calls. You have donors calling, other Party Leaders calling say, hey, you better do this. Theres activity in the base, this and that. Anytime it gets to threatening someones life, their familys life, their economic life, obviously unacceptable and extraordinarily scary. But lets bring this back to jim jordan. Jim jordans cooked, all right . No shot, dead on arrival. He just has an Alphabet Problem at this point. These votes happen in alphabet hes already done. He doesnt have any momentum. And then youre going to see guys like fitzpatrick, molinaro saying you already dont have it. I got to think about my swing voters. Hes going to lose 30, 40 votes. Mchenry on the same hand is done because that requires democratic votes and rightfully so, leader jeffries is saying you guys are unfit to lead. You cant get the job done on your own, so if you want to work with us, it has to be as equals. Equal members of the rules committee. As it should be. But at the same time, republicans would argue voters put them in charge, so why should what about the districts in new york that have more democrats than republicans in them, and they elected a republican. Its not about the republican voter, when they say that what theyre saying is we care about a primary. Thats it. But sharing power is something that no party in power likes you know who did it for two years successfully and it led to joe biden getting a lot of legislation through . The senate. The first two years of Joe Bidens Administration the senate was technically majority with harris being a deciding vote. However, when they had to get even to certain other numbers for certain things to pass, it was they had a shared government, shared committees. Yes, there was always a democrat who was the head of it, but there were equal numbers of republicans and democrats on every committee. Why cant that be something the republicans are willing to give, even temporarily. You cant take the politics out of politics, okay . The republicans were, yes, elected to lead the house and each and every day theyre showing the American People they are unfit to serve, unfit to leave and are abjectly incompetent. This at a moment where the world is in turmoil and is demanding american leadership, unified american leadership. So if the Republican Party continues to be incompetent, they have no right to come to the Democratic Party and assert any type of authority over them. Come to the table as equals and you can govern as equals delivering Bipartisan Solutions that the American People rightfully need right now. What i dont understand, though, is why theyre even taking this vote, if everybody seems to agree, jordan doesnt have a path forward, why do you think hes going through this . Susan. I think to get some people on the record and put some people in a behind. Hes already done that. Its one more time. Hell go through it. Hell end it and he also dont forget, politicians at times when theyre in that situation, they can think maybe, just maybe thats what a lot of elected officials sorry, max, but ive seen the hopeful, the maybe enough, but otherwise he also is just a vindictive maniacal man who just wants to go after people. You know, max, ive been thinking, and i presume that it has a lot to do with 2016. Why has it gotten to be like this, that the concept of bipartisanship doesnt exist on capitol hill. The atmosphere is one where people within their own Political Party are getting Death Threats and pressures. Max, what happened . Well, lets not go too far with that proposition. Of course, under democratic leadership in the house of representatives under Nancy Pelosis leadership as well , they were able to pass a whole series of bipartisan measures that are still delivering for the American People, but that is difficult. Remember, when the democrats held the house of representatives, they had a smaller majority than what the republicans are dealing with right now, and they were able to deliver chips act, infrastructure act, unprecedented gun violence protection legislation, and they almost made it look too easy. And now you see this so what happened . Ill tell you what happened, the republicans dont know what theyre doing. This is abject incompetence before our eyes each and every day. So yes, of course theyre calling vote after vote after vote right now. Ill tell you why because what they care about are the whims of their Extremist Base right now. Not the desires of the majority of the American People who want us to get to work, who want this bold and nonetheless bipartisan legislation. But theyre not listening to them. Theyre listening to this very small extremist minority that is not representative of these swing voters and the vast majority of the American People but who want perpetual political combat. Thats who jim jordan is listening to. A lot of people who have been elected since id go back to 2014, 2012, they are there to be no. They dont to want govern. The amount of those people over time has grown. You have a lot of republicans or i should say it is a minority, and you are right, max st a minority of the majority and theyre very loud. They dont want to govern. They believe if i dont get 100 and i win 100 , then no one should get anything. They wont take 60 , so they dont want to govern, and thats whats happened is you have a bunch of republicans there who have no interest in getting anything done. Okay, Everybody Stay with us. Ali vitali, Steve Kornacki, former Congressman Max Rose, Susan Del Percio, much more to come. Were continuing to follow whats happening there in the house. You can see in the capitol right now they are doing that quorum call, making sure everybodys present for the speaker vote to come. Were going to keep our eyes on that and hop back as it develops. It develops with those nominating speeches and the vote, right . Hopefully that will happen in the next hour. Well see. Well see. Thats the plan, but anything can happen thats true. Well also have the la

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