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MSNBCW The July 3, 2024

The honorable Hakeem Jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. John boehner of The State Of Ohio Has received one. Look at that smile. Its going about that way. Democrats totally united while republicans are Casting Protest Votes with the speaker. And tonight, the nomination of the unqualified jim jordan is circling the drain. My friend and colleague Rachel Maddow joins me right here on that embarrassing spectacle. Her new book, prequel, American Fight Against Fascism and so much more. But we begin tonight with the profound difference between the normal way of becoming House Speaker and what jim jordan is doing. Using maga tactics to threaten his way into the speakers office. It has been 15 days since Kevin Mccarthy was deposed by his partys maga wing and jim jordan is still trying to fill his tiny, tiny little shoes. But here is the thing, House Speakers, at least the recent ones, get the job in very traditional ways, by building relationships, rising through the ranks, with a little cajoling here and there, time and experience. That is what builds a speaker. Speaker emare ta was a Prodigious Found Raiser for democrat and unparallel vote counter before becoming speaker. John boehner, well, he was a cash machine for republicans. So much so that when he was in leadership he was questioned by colleagues and apologized for handing out tobaccopack checks on the house floor. Even Kevin Mccarthy despite his many, many, many faults is very good at hauling in money for republicans. Then theres jim jordan, who is asking his colleagues for a promotion and giving them nothing to show for it. When all hes done as a member is scream and fight. As hayes brown writes for msnbc, three main jobs members of congress have, writing and passing laws, providing a check and balance on the other brampls and serving their constituents. Jordan amazingly is bad at all three. In fact, while nominating Hakeem Jeffries, pete aguilar called out many jim jordans flaws and reminded us who received the most votes on 17 ballots this year. 212 to 200, no amount of election denying is going to take away from those vote totals. The speaker of the house must be a legislature. And the gentleman from ohio falls short in that regard. He supports an extreme agenda and is hell bent on banning abortion nationwide. Gutting medicare, gutting Social Security, and giving cover to january 6th attackers. Jordan failed to win the speakers gavel for a second time today, getting just 199 votes, fewer than he received in the first ballot yesterday. And its pretty easy to see why. His trumpstyle public bullying effort through right wing media. Foxs sean hannity has been personally lobbying Jordan Holdouts and axios revealed a note that a a hannity producer emailed to republican congressional staffers asking why their bosses werent supporting jordan. So how is the Intimidation Effort going for jim jordans vote count . Well, arkansas congressman steve womack told the Washington Post that his staff has been cussed out, threatened. Its been nonstop. Most of them are out of state calls. Two other republicans, both tweeted about how threats and intimidation would not be changing their votes. But the most appalling might be Text Messages sent to the wife of nebraskas don bacon saying, why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting jim jordan . I thought he was a team player . And your husband will never hold elected office again. That worked so well don bacon voted for, Kevin Mccarthy. The reality is that all of jim jordans tactics, whether its screaming in Committee Meetings or bullying his colleagues into submission revolve around one person, donald j. Trump. But those tactics dont work for anyone else except donald trump, as evidenced by jordans diminishing support for House Speaker. Hell give it another try tomorrow. Joining me now, is nbc news capitol hill Correspondent Ali Vitali and tara setmeyer, former adviser to Lincoln Project and former republican communication director. Ali, i want to go to you first. The threats to me are the most sort of revealing and also disturbing part of this. Because that has been the tactic that jim jordan is using. Representative named miller meex, released a statement about receiving Death Threats after switching her vote against jim jordan. Here is what she said, however, since my vote in support of chairwoman granger, i have received incredible Death Threats. My office is cooperating fully. One thing i cannot stomach or support is a bully. What the hell is going on on the hill . Look, this is just happening in the last few minutes that Congresswoman Miller Meeks says shes gotten credible Death Threats and threatening calls since she flipped her vote yesterday to jordan today voting for Congresswoman Granger less about granger more about miller meeks trying to throw her support behind someone who isnt jim jordan and references . That statement that shes gotten calls to her office that say she should be voting for jordan. Shes gotten calls saying they need to find a conservative consensus candidate and now thats what shes calling for in this statement. When you look at the fact that threats have been going across the board, don bacon, carlos gimenez, someone else who voted against jordan, now miller meeks, jen kigens, all of these names are of course part of a public list. The way they vote in the house is public. But its also something that Turning Point action, a conservative Grass Roots Group thats very aligned with donald trump, has tweeted urging their followers to reach out to them, light up their phone lines. Im not saying that this is the only reason. But it was pointed out to me by a republican operative that these things dont just happen in a vacuum. I would also point out that jordan spokesperson just in the last few minutes says this is abhorrent and condemns the fact that threats are being leveraged, but nevertheless they are. Let me point out that matt gaetz for congress sent out a letter that says, hi, this is matt gaetz. Were inches from electing speaker jim jordan but rhinos are working with radical democrats to block jim jordan from becoming speaker. He is sending out these messages and are other members pointing the finger at him . He is the one who triggered all of this by triggering the motion to vacate. Is he getting any blowback for the threats as fellow members are receiving . Not that i can tell. Mccarthy did condemn gaetz for fundraising off of this. Whether or not it was his fault, i dont actually know. But gaetz is not someone who was ever here to make new friends by motioning to vacate against mccarthy. And i think that most people that are murmuring behind his back and in the media saying this is why were here are the exact same people that were never too keen on matt gaetz any way. Im not sure there was ever a Permission Structure where matt gaetz gets his from within the conference for putting him in this situation. Theyre frustrated with him then. Frustrated with him now. I dont know that its any different. Tara, you worked on the hill. Have you ever heard of a Cable Television host, sean hannity and his producers personally lobbying for who should be speaker . No. This is all very new. This is all the era of trumpism where the entertainment, the political Entertainment Complex here seems to rule the day, not governing, not the constitution, not whats in the interest of the american people. This is just further evidence of the influence that fox news has had. And not in a good way. I just back in the day when i was on the hill, did we collaborate with Fox News Producers On Policy Stories . Yes. Was there ever a campaign to threaten members of congress over the speakers vote . No. Because republicans had it together back then. I mean, you have a couple rabblerousers, but for the most part republicans could govern. This is absolute insanity. The winner here just from a politically political perspective, its the democrats. Going into the election next year, they should use this chaos and they should use jim jordan as the villain the way that they used we did back in the day, nancy pelosi and the way the republicans now use the squad. Associate every Single Member that voted for jim jordan, whether it was the first, second or third round or whatever they voted for him, if they cast a vote and clapped for jim jordan, you tie them together. And his extremism and loyalty to maga. Thats the political, cynical side of thing. In the meantime, the country suffers because you have a major party that cant get its act together and we have the world on fire. So this is something i think that salespeople really should take a look at and make a decision is this the type of politics we want where you have members of congress threatening each other. By the way, welcome to our world. Never trumpers like me and those outspoken against this maga scourge, we have gotten those types of threats for years to the point where when i used to work at another network, i used to have Armed Security guards escort me in and out of the building when i would go on air because of the level of threats i used to get for speaking the truth about donald trump and maga. So now theyre getting a taste of their own medicine. Maybe, maybe now enough is enough. I dont know. What is it going to take . Ali, you know, you are on the hill talking with these republicans. At some point the sort of less far right wing republicans have to make a choice, right . And theres been a lot of talk. Jamie raskin was on with chris hayes Last Night Floating Names of people who arent in congress, which is allowed. People like liz cheney, mitt romney, senator an gus king they said could work. Jim jordan has been trying to assuage some of the doubts. Being speaker a lot of the job is fundraising. He doesnt do that well either. And so, hes not got anything to bring to the table. He cant ask he cant promise people anything because what people dont want is him. Is there any attempt to maybe cobble together an idea of a consensus speaker that maybe some democrats could vote for . Because Hakeem Jeffries is capable of delivering votes. Yeah, look. I think the political fundraising concerns are real. We should just highlight that and underscore it because it is important. Mccarthy was a machine on fundraising and money. Scalise frankly would have been, too. Jordan really is lacking in that department. When you think about this idea of a consensus candidate, i appreciate chairman raskins suggestions. I dont think that liz cheney would get any votes. Mitt romney and angus king same. But i have heard from some democrats who have floated other names like people currently in the house and Hakeem Jeffries himself the top democrat said there are members of this Republican Party who they could find to be palatable and almost partners. Theyre not talking about this as a Coalition Government, at least not in any real kind of a sense. What theyre likely talking about here is giving speaker pro tem Patrick Mchenry some extra powers that he may not have right now to actually just run the floor. Im not talking about this for the next year and a half or through the end of the congress. Im talking about this through maybe november 17th, the day the government is set to shut down or maybe through the end of the year. Then they would come back and actually try to figure out what a new speakership would look like. Democrats are not under any illusion that theyre going to get a democrat here. They dont think that. Thats not what theyre pushing for. Theyre pushing for a republican who is not jim jordan, who in their words is not an extreme insurrectionist sympathizer. And instead theyre floating peoples names like steve womack, tom cole, veteran people who know how this Building Works who are a little bit more moderate in their stances. Im not saying its going to happen, but im saying theyre open to it. Real quick. Let me play tom cole praising jim jordans willingness to cut Social Security. Roll em. Unlike any other speaker we have had, hes had the courage to talk at the longterm plan and get at the real drivers of debt. We all know what they are. We all know its Social Security, we all know its medicare. We all know its medicaid. This is a guy that wants to create a debt commission, a Bipartisan Debt Commission and get at the roots. Republicans just want to lose . So the answer is, put the guy in who will cut Social Security, medicare . All the Senior Citizens will vote against them. What are they doing sfl. The campaign ads write themselves. Somebody please clip that and run a campaign ad on it over and over and over again. However you feel about the merits of that argument, now is not the time for that. You could probably see we call them the biden 18, the 18 republicans who won in biden districts, districts that biden won in 2020, like you could just see them, oh my god, shut up because they its bad enough that theyre put in this position where they have to vote for jim jordan, 12 of them did in the first round. Thats outrageous, i hope their opponents hammer them with that, now they have to justify cutting Social Security and medicare somehow thats a good policy idea for them going into 2024. Its a mess. And im curious to see how this comes to a conclusion. But in the meantime, the country suffers. To say nothing of the insurrection and some of those former wrestlers doing interviews. Theyre on tv. Ill try to book some of them myself. Ali vitali and tara setmeyer, look, this is what they created. Thank you both ladies. Coming up on the reidout next, President Biden in israel assures Prime Minister ben ja man netanyahu americas support and offering aid to suffering civilians in gaza. The reidout continues after this. Ans in gaza. The reidout continues after this you cant look at what has happened here, to your mothers, your fathers, your grandparents, sons, daughters, children, even babies and not scream out for justice. Justice must be done. But i caution this while you feel that rage, dont be consumed by it. After 9 11, we were enraged in the United States. While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes. President biden arrived in israel after a Deadly Gaza Hospital Blast fueled protests across the middle east. The Palestinian Health Ministry Said 471 people were killed in what it claimed was a targeted israeli bombing of a hospital in central gaza. Israel said it did not bomb the hospital while President Biden said he is confident, based on u. S. Intelligence, that an israeli air strike was not to blame. Biden announced today that the u. S. Has provided 100 million in humanitarian assistance for the Palestinian People in gaza and the west bank. Per the associated press, egypts president has also agreed to open its Border Crossing to allow in trucks with humanitarian aid. President biden is now on his way home. Tomorrow, he will deliver a prime time address to discuss the u. S. Response to the hamas Terrorist Attacks against israel. And russias war against ukraine. Nbcs Richard Engel has the latest. Reporter this is the explosion that has shaken the middle east. New video shows that deadly explosion at a hospital in gaza city that reportedly killed hundreds and sparked protests. From iran to yemen to lebanon where demonstrators directed their anger against the United States. Israels main backer. Security forces in beirut used Mortar Cannons and tear gas to disperse crowds outside the u. S. Embassy. The United States pulled out of its wars the middle east but now could be heading back into one. In the west bank, palestinians today dragged out the barricades and slung rocks at israeli soldiers. There werent many mostly teenagers. Israeli troops kept their distance, but when the stone throwers got too close, the soldiers opened fire. Sending medical crews rushing in. Here is one more injured being taken away. The israelis are picking them off with what appears to be Rubber Bullets at this stage. No one was seriously injured here today, but a new generation of palestinians is taking to the streets. While israel and hamas are blaming each other for the hospital explosi

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