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Americas longtime ally. And get humanitarian aid into gaza and get trapped americans out. Plus, hamas releasing the first video of the Hostage Group saying they have as many as 250 people. We will take you inside the desperate effort to free them. Israel managing to kill a major hamas leader, and israel told palestinians to flee. Then is anybody capable of leading the House Of Representatives . We begin this hour with the latest on the situation on the ground in the middle east. Joining us now, Kelly Cobiella in southern israel, and retired admiral, former nato Supreme Allied Commander and msnbc chief analyst. Israel told palestinians to flee ahead of a expected ground invasion, and what do we know about the efforts to get the humanitarian aid into gaza . Reporter well, they were striking hamas targets overnight. Hamas headquarters as well as a hamas operative, and what we saw on the ground in southern israel is more tragic scenes, people being carried out of crumbled buildings and children being collapsed in the arms of the rescuers and taking them to hospitals to the big city in the south, which has been overwhelmed with the hundreds of thousands that fled from the north. Also in raufa, the place where the Border Crossing is into egypt, the crossing we have talked about for several days now, the crossing that Secretary Of State, antony blinken, said will reopen. The fact of the matter is on the ground it has not reopened yet. The red cross says they have roughly a dozen trucks filled with humanitarian aid on one side of the border, on the egyptian side of the border ready to go in. There are hundreds of people, among them, four nationals and americans on the gaza side of the border hoping to get out. There are reports, first of all, they have no shelter and theres very little food and water, and people are sleeping outside and many are considering going back north because there they feel they may have a chance at having shelter. The United States, antony blinken, and others have said the u. S. Is now working with israel on figuring out a plan to get humanitarian aid in, and also to create safe spaces inside gaza for civilians. These images are not the images israel and the u. S. Want the world to see. They dont want civilians to be tragically killed in these air strikes. The problem is we dont have any details on those plans yet. We have heard the two sides are working on some sort of plan, but we dont have details of a plan. After talking about the crossing opening for several days, it still has not opened is the bottom line. We are watching these live pictures out of jordan, where Secretary Of State, antony blinken, there is meeting with different officials. I cant officials, yes, in jordan. That man shake hands with people that the Palestinian Authority president , which is separate from any leader of a hamas organization, and so we expect to maybe hear a few words from this gentleman. Lets listen for a moment. No comments from the Secretary Of State or Mahmoud Abbas and their meeting, and the meeting is just being started in jordan. If we can continue our conversation with peter, the president is set to visit the middle east tomorrow to support israel, and meet with other nations, including jordan. Why did he decide to go now . The significance of this trip in this key moment, whatthat . Its very significant obviously. He will meet with president abbas, as you just saw there, and that will be after his stop in israel. Also, the president of egypt will be there, and thats a key piece, and we were just talking about that Border Crossing, and there will be two stops on the trip. The first one to show solidarity with Prime Minister netanyahu and the israeli people. And the israelis will not go in on the ground while the president of the United States is there. This visit allows the israelis to get a little Breathing Room to see if they cant get progress on the humanitarian front. President biden can offer advice he wants to give to the Prime Minister, but in public he said he doesnt want there to be daylight scenes and hes expressing the humanitarian crisis in gaza. This trip is announced, so we know it. Hes not going in secretly, and hes headed into an active a country at war right now, right . What goes into preparing for a president ial visit to a combat zone . Very significant challenges. The president also went into a very active war zone a few months ago into kyiv, ukraine. In this case, good news is theres one american Aircraft Carrier on station, and another about to arrive, and 2,000 marines embarked on warships and streaming north in the red sea, and Air Force One will certainly be escorted by fighters from that carrier. Its the gerald r. Ford that will be there. He will be greeted by a number of military personnel. No expense will be spared in keeping the president safe. I want to build on something peter said a moment ago. The president is also going there to deter iran, to send a signal to iran, not only are there Aircraft Carriers, marines, and air force fighters and squadrons going to qatar, hes showing iran that, and he will be leaning in on the hostage situation, presumably some americans in that group, and when you bring those marines, you bring options for hostages. This is a big important trip with lot going on. Peter, part of that trip is to see if one can mitigate any expansion of the war into other fronts, and certainly as the admiral was saying, theres a message to iran. Its difficult, peter, to see how that Balancing Act can be carried out when you have so many possible powder kegs about to explode. Thats exactly right. That was correctly said, that they are concerned about widening the war there and trying to do what they can to stop it. Two Carrier Groups in the region sends a strong message along with an increase in a number of landbased aircraft, and that gives the United States around 100 Combat Aircraft in the region available, and thats a big strike force if they were to need to use it, and they dont want to use it and they are saying to tehran, dont make us use it. We are already seeing relatively minor skirmishing in that region, and that could be a disastrous situation if they attack israel. The United States wants to prevent that. And iraq, syria, and other places where they could, of course, expand this war, should they choose to. The message seems to be they dont want to at the moment, and all bets are off once the israelis go into gaza, and they may feel tempted because of the outrage of what is happening in gaza or the feeling of it being opportunistic where they could puncture the israelis power by the attack from hamas. What the u. S. Could be trying to accomplish is sending messages of deterrents to hezbollah and others who may want to capitalize on instability and vulnerability of the israeli people, and now we are learning the u. S. Is even going to deploy more troops to the area, and the Defense Official telling nbc news 2,000 troops have been told and were put on notice to possibly be deployed to the middle east. What do you think their mission would be . This is a prepare to deploy order frequently issued from the pentagon and puts the units on a high alert status, and their gear is packed and they can jump on an airplane and go. The 2,000 marines are at sea, and this 2,000 will probably be army personnel. They will go, if they are deployed, to back up the israelis on things like logistics, working with these refugee populations, and moving ammunitions, and supporting israel but not in front line combat in gaza. Final thought for you, ana and jose, we all know this region, the caribbean, as you both will recall, the United States deployed these amphibious groups to that region acting as hospital ships, and those marines are perfectly capable of functioning in humanitarian operations, and so are the 2,000 coming to that region, and we need to help with the humanitarian crisis unfolding in front of our eyes. The president must one must underline his clarity from day one in this horrible massacre that occurred, and since then he has been so clear in everything he says about the United States commitment, relationship and support of israel. Biden has had his ups and downs with the israeli Prime Minister. How does it factor into a visit at this crucial time . Yeah, they have known each other going back decades, and they had a scratchy relationship at times since the Prime Minister came back last december, and the president has been add odds with him in his approach to iran and netanyahu wants to curve the power of the courts, and all of that is put to the side for the moment, and all of that is a secondary issue for another time as far as President Biden is concerned. He has been unflinching in his support for israel, and netanyahu is their leader at the moment, and it doesnt mean they are in agreement on everything, but the president does not want anybody to see any daylight between them. Biden took the approach that i have not seen that often, which is to have unstinting support of israel so you cannot say he has a concern about the humanitarian crisis, and he says i know israel is a democracy like us and cares about the rules of law, the laws of war, and will work on the humanitarian part, and he doesnt criticize israel, and behind the scenes i think that credibility hes building through the strong statements gives him some opportunity to talk in private, and maybe shape the outcome, shape the way israel approaches this coming battle. Peter baker, thank you so much. We are just show something the images out of gaza. Its 6 13 in the evening there. We are seeing smoke rising from the skyline there as night falls. Up next, we will speak about the humanitarian crisis happening right now inside the gaza strip. U. N. Workers pleading to get out of what they are calling a quote, hell hole. We will speak about the critical situation on the ground. 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The Gaza Interior Ministry says the attack killed 23 people and left 50 others injured. A similar situation is unfolding on the egyptian border where palestinians are searching for survivors. And many are trying to escape the violence to egypt but still unable to leave without a deal in place. This is the four days now that we come from gaza and this is the situation, and we hope it will be okay but its very, very bad. We feel we will day in every minute, every second. We hope we stay alive and we hope everything is okay. Just on the opposite side of the border, trucks filled with humanitarian supplies are unable to get in to deliver the aid. Joining us now, ambassador to the state of palestine. Thank you for being with us today. How would you describe the situation going on right now as we speak in gaza . I think the u. N. Official said it best, its a hellhole, and the israeli general said they would unleash hell, and thats where the palestinians are experiencing now. We have 1,000 children who have been killed so far, and over 3,000 palestinians has been killed. Its tragic to hear of the losses, and the innocent children and women who are trapped and suffering. You have said the world has lost its humanity because of this. What do you mean by that . I mean if you value life, theres no reason not to value palestinian lives. We have seen people trying to say israel is not responsibility for killing the people its killing. You can not say that. We have seen people tell people in gaza, this is for your own good and life will be better after. This is destruction and death around them. Its not the first time. Many have survived all this time, and now they are being killed again. Entire families are being wiped off the face of the earth. Who do you hold accountable for what is happening right now . What responsibility do you see as hamas role in causing this awful situation . I hold responsible the one doing the killing. The states have obligations under the international law, and we cannot evade them by holding somebody else responsible. Now we cannot allow them to say they are not responsible for killing overwhelmingly civilians. These are the words of the israeli Prime Minister, vengeance. I hope your country and others are trying to talk sense into them. We appreciate the access to the humanitarian aid, but we say we dont want the bombings to continue, we dont want the ground assault. The situation is in collapse under the humanitarian and health levels, you need to save the lives of the people. Every five minutes we are losing a palestinian life. Every 15 minutes a palestinian child is killed. Every life matters, and those lives that are not mentioned do matter. Every single life is precious. There is, however, the 7th of october. That changed everything, because a reaction to a Declaration Of War is a war. I am just wondering, ambassador, the humanity in all of this is so easily forgotten, and there are victims, yes, on all sides. The 7th of october, how do you not include that massacre into what is the reaction of a country or of a group to the indiscriminate of slaughter of people when every life matters . We reject the killing of any citizen. We have thousands of people killed. We had the deadliest killing in the west bank. True. Thisaire has become the deadliest. We have 60 palestinians killed in the west bank in the last ten days. Israel made choices, their own ones, colonizing and occupying the land, and we said careful. We didnt come to say lets justify the killing, and we are saying when israelis are killed the only solution, because you say vengeance now and vengeance later, and what happens . People continue dying on both sides. We said to many, including the west, you cant manage the conflict and at some point you have to solve it. You will have to spend later to extinguish fires. Now the fire has reached the israelis, and but, again, palestinians were being killed before and are being killed now, and we can say its time to kill israelis again, and thats not responsible. We have to tell people honestly, palestinians and israelis are suffering, and the only way to stop it is to make peace. We dont want your kids to die or our kids to die. Can peace happen with hamas in existence . What does that mean . You have settlers who are violent and burned our children, and we have governments and responsibilities, and we make peace and make sure to have a buy in to our people, and we cant tell people, palestinians, eventually the palestinians would hamas is in control in gaza, and hamas has in its covenant the goal of killing jews. There is no room for extra compromise there is no constituents about killing, and in hamas, its there in there, its black and white. You cant wish it away. You cant wish it away. You address it. Its submission or death. Our goal is to give people an alternative path, and that they can be free. An alternative to hamas and extremist . Alternative to anybody who believes peace is not popular, and anybody that objects to the twostate solution. Sometimes its not popular, and sometimes people are suffering and dont want to hear it, but if you lose faith in that option, we condemned our peoples to death and devastation forever. We have a responsibility. The u. S. Now is involved and the humanitarian situation, and the best way for it to spill over is the stopping of skilling of palestinians, and to do that like all the other leaders have told the United States during the tour of blinken, and President Biden is now involved, and we need to come with an answer to the problems. Occupation and siege cannot be the future of the palestinian people. Recognizing everybodys right to exist. Exactly. Recognizing everybodys right to exist. Exactly. Thank you very much for coming in. Appreciate your perspective and your time. Thank you very much. Up next, a bipartisan congressional delegation just got back from israel where they meet with officials there. We will talk to senator jacky rosen about what she experienced on that trip including rushing into a bomb shelter. We will be with you in a second. You are watching Special Coverage of the israel hamas war on msnbc. Bc ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin . For softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free gentle downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. The towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. Try downy free gentle. Why give your family just any eggs when they can enjoy the best . Egglands best. The only eggs with more fresh and delicious taste. Plus, superior nutrition. Which is now more importa

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