that does it for me this evening, msnbc special coverage continues with the 11th hour and my colleague and good evening alex, get home safe. -- hello, once again. i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is now 6 am in gaza, and israel. the region is now bracing for the israeli military to begin a ground invasion in gaza, it could start at any moment it. israel ordered people living in northern gaza to evacuate to the south. that meant over 1 million people had to decide whether to leave their homes. hamas, the group that carried out the terror attacks in israel has told gaza residents they should stay put. it has now been seven days since the massacre in israel, where at least 1300 people have been killed. israeli forces have pounded gaza with airstrikes, and over 1900 there have been killed. we get more from my colleague richard engel, who is in the region. >> bombs are raining down on gaza tonight. the israeli military saying some forces have already entered gaza, to gather intelligence to recover hostages. ahead of unanticipated full scale ground invasion, one that will be a challenge for israeli troops as hamas fighters used an underground network of tunnels to their advantage. israel gave 1. 1 million palestinians in northern gaza 24 hours to head south to save their lives. some he did the order, fleeing in vehicles, on foot, and horse drawn carts. but most have not left, according to our contacts inside gaza. many gazans are already refugees from previous wars. and they are determined not to be made refugees again. they have nowhere to go. -- a 22-year-old dental student, is keeping a video journal. >> every time i close my eyes, i either here or bomb, or see a light, or here in noise, or hear a scream. or here a neighbor of that queue waiting. so i'm like, should i evacuate now? or should i just wait for my death in my own house? it's really confusing. this is my bed. i've moved it several times last night, trying to find the safest room to be with my family. >> medical workers say they aren't leaving, but they can't abandon the wounded already flooding in. our local camera crew visited the chief of hospital in gaza city, and found it in a state of collapse. with all the beds full, patients are treated on the floor. sheets, used for stretchers, israel says it's only targeting hamas. but there were wounded children everywhere. in some cases, even those trying to flee were attacked. medical officials told us most of these victims, 200 of them, were injured by israeli airstrikes as they were trying to escape gaza city in a convoy. that 70 were killed. >> [speaking in a global language] >> translator: we were heading to the south, and they bombed us. god will punish them for this. -- >> the gaza strip is 139 square miles bordered by israel, the mediterranean sea, and egypt. israel told gazans to move south of the whatì gaza valley, all of gaza's borders are shut. aid workers say a humanitarian corridor must be opened to at least allow in food, water, and medicine to southern gaza. >> -- gaza is moving towards where we are. 1 million people with no food, no water. -- my thought is all these people in the hospital, cannot be evacuated. where's humanity? where is people's hearts in the world? >> the u.s. is working to contain this war, but it's already spreading. to the west bank, where more than 40 palestinians have been killed in violent clashes. and in lebanon, where the deputy chief of hezbollah, a militant group that supports hamas, said it would act when the time is right. [sound of artillery] and israeli strike in lebanon near the border with israel today hit a group of four journalists, killing a reuters videographer, and injuring six others. as the situation in gaza deteriorates -- israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu appeared before cameras today, to say this is only the beginning. that israel striking at its enemies with unprecedented might. and will eradicate hamas. >> with that, let's bring in nbc foreign correspondent, josh lederman. joining us from northern israel, josh, richard engel just mentioned that the threat to israel's on the northern border. what's happening there? >> -- >> josh? can you hear me? >> stephanie, can you hear me, we lost our connection, but i think i'm back with you now. >> can you hear me now, josh? >> i can. hey stephanie. >> richard engel was just saying that the threat to israel is on the northern border. you are in that region, what can you tell us? >> this is an area that is holding its breath right now, stephanie. they have seen violence are upped with hezbollah, a militant group based in lebanon before. they have seen in the last several days some limited skirmishes between israeli forces and hezbollah. they are bracing to see whether this is going to escalate into a full on second front in this war. that is exactly what to the united states other regional nations have been trying to prevent, to try to persuade hezbollah to stay out of this, to try to keep down tensions in the west bank. as richard mentioned. but we had heard firsthand from the deputy leader of hezbollah today, saying they are going to contribute to this resistance effort. as they see it, by the palestinians. in fact, today, we've seen an uptick in the cross border violence here, in fact, the reuters camera man, very sadly, was killed today. by an israeli strike that landed in southern lebanon, where he was broadcasting live. several other journalists were injured in that incident, about ten miles from where i am on the other side of the border. with israel. here in israel, a town of matola was tucked into a closed military zone. because of the immense threat that israeli officials saw to that town, here in northern israel. so, the hope is, still, that this can be contained to and israel, hamas conflict, as we brace for that ground incursion. but in past incidents of warfare, between israel and hamas, this has tended to spiral. that would not only create a fresh challenge to israel's national security to have to fight on multiple fronts at the same time, but would inevitably lead to far more bloodshed. that is what world nations right now are trying to prevent, stephanie. >> we have been unthinkably difficulties for israelis, you have been there for the past few days. what are people telling you? >> this is the calm before the storm for a lot of israelis. they know that what they have suffered in the last week is unsinkable. we have seen all of the horrific images as their brothers and sisters and cousins and friends, there is nobody here who doesn't know someone intimately affected by the violence that we saw on saturday. and, at the same time, they know that this is far from over. in that rare or sabbath evening address that benjamin netanyahu made tonight, he seems to be trying to prepare the israeli people for something that is going to be protracted and difficult. he said that we are just getting started, this is going to take a while. he wants people to understand that the pain here is not over yet, but he says that they will win and it is what they need to do to protect israel's national security. so, as they walk through the streets here, in northern israel, everything is closed. you can't go get a sandwich, you can't go to the grocery store, it's not just because of the south, it just because people feel that war is on the horizon imminently and this country is, once again, girding itself for the kind of conflict that it has seen many times in years past and wondering just how bad it's going to be this. time >> josh, thank you so much for being here. please stay safe where you are. let's turn down to our lead off panel tonight, jeremy bash joins, as a former chief of staff at the c eye and pentagon. retired army colonel jack jacobs, he's a medal of honor recipient and msnbc military analyst. and kevin baron is, here editorial director for political live. he was more than 20 years in washington's defense national security and foreign affairs. colonel jacobs, i've not seen, we haven't spoken since this crisis started. what is on your mind as you are watching all of this unfold? >> the first thing that crops up in my mind is how long and difficult this is likely to be. netanyahu said it was, but those who spent any time on the ground, particularly fighting in built-up areas, in an area that has been full of rubble from the bombing can attest to the fact that this will be extremely long enterprise with units going house to house, the street to street, through the rubble. because of the nature of gaza and the built up area the advantages to defenders, hamas is almost undoubtedly in underground shelters. i know the attempt is at least part of the exercise is to get back hostages, but people who have been involved in hostage rescue operations can tell you that the large majority of them do not work. you have to know exactly where the hostages are, you have to know who is around them. usually they are in one spot, they are not moved around like they are at the moment and we should probably be realistic about the notion of getting hostages back or getting the back alive. but netanyahu was absolutely correct. the operation on the ground, in gaza, is going to be very, very long and it is going to take quite a few casualties. even if all of the gazans who were told to move south of what you gotta do that, so it is going to be a very difficult time on both sides. >> jeremy, president biden spoke to 60 minutes about the crisis. i want to share just a clip. >> to those holding american hostages in gaza, you say what? >> i say we are going to do everything in our power to find them, everything in our power. i am not going to go into the detail of that, but we are working like hell on it. >> israel has already started doing some raids in an effort to find the hostages. walk us through, colonel jack was kind of touching on it, what are the challenges to this kind of rescue operation, especially given that the landscape, the underground tunnels in gaza? >> first, stephanie, there really are two ways to free hostages. one is through a negotiated prisoner exchange or a negotiated settlement. and the second way is if you have a protein intelligence of exactly where the hostages are, you can maintain the element of surprise and you can use overwhelming force. we in the united states have done that, we worked on a hostage rescue operation in the pentagon in 2012, somalia pirates and there are some cases in africa of american citizens being held. but, again, there we have the element of surprise. we had overwhelming force and pristine intelligence on their location. israel has no information, at least that we are aware, of of the whereabouts of specific hostages. so there is no strategy to free hostages where you go house to house, knock and announce, knock and don't announce, if we kind of bomb -- that's not a real strategy. so i think actually the military objectives here are really focused around decapitating hamas leadership, chasing down each, vtes capturing them, taking out the command and control in those. if along the way israel happens to find information about the hostages they will come up with a concept of operation that they'll presented to prime minister netanyahu and maybe the united states will be involved as an advisor as well. >> kevin, what do think the biggest issues are for the israeli military in a ground invasion in gaza? >> well, a lot of former commanders and generals in the region have been saying it better in the past couple of days that people are making -- their equating it to the isis war, al-qaeda, the kind of terrorism campaigns that we see the last 20 years that if israel is going to go occupy new territory this is street fighting block by block, like jeremy was saying. it is far more than bombing, and it is going to be from the sea, air, starting with a blackouts. it would be total and israel's stated, i guess they're deal of the last couple of days is that if hamas would release the hostages then israel would -- and that is being tested, just like jeremy said, nobody expressed that hamas is going to release the hostages and they are going to do anything but what they have said. they're not gonna back down now. >> kevin, we know that a lot of civilians will remain in gaza. there are many people, the hospitals have been flooded with patients, doctors are there, nurses are there. family members of those who are in the hospital are close by. is there any way to protect these people? they can't evacuate. >> well, you know, plenty has been said about how difficult it is to move in gaza, especially to the south. it's a real offer or not to tell civilians to go south. in the past, israel has done more than that. they've offered humanitarian corridors. the egyptians are saying -- some are saying they wouldn't send more, israel's making it difficult for them. i think that the story about the civilians and the devastation, the further savages station to come is reverberating back home, i've looked at some polling on the last day that we've seen from groups like fall -- in the last week, there's a clear divide in the united states about what democrats and republicans are saying about the conflict already. i'm curious to watch, even through this week about how that changes. initially, democrats, liberals, they're showing for more sympathy for palestinian civilians, casualties, and less for the israelis, vice versa, the republicans. much greater sense. that may change. i think we should expect that to change. if israel proceeds with a full campaign, ground invasion, and we see more of the images like you have just showed us from inside places like hospitals where it's just civilian devastation. >> jeremy, talk about trying to evacuate over 1 million people from northern gaza. what are they up against? >> they are going to have to go into u.n. and internally displaced protective areas, including u. n. refugee camps in the south. i also think that the short term, but more fundamentally, the longer term solution in gaza is essentially to create the northern part of gaza as a demilitarized zone. to create a cordon of belt around the northern part of gaza, so that a hamas attack on southern israel can never occur again. that's going to require not just israel, but frankly arab states, primarily egypt, but also qatar, jordan, the gulf arab countries, to really step in, to take palestinian refugees from gaza. to allow them to have visas, to travel to their country, to leave and resettle there. ultimately, to find and support monetarily the humanitarian needs of the palestinian people in southern gaza. >> colonel, how worried are you about the growing humanitarian crisis there? >> well, it's a terrible thing. it's likely to happen. there are people being hurt every day. it's going to become much more difficult as the israeli defense force moves into gaza. jeremy mentioned something really important in this regard. he's talking about it in the long term strategic sense, but it's also true here. over the short, tactical term. that is the role of arab countries in the region to ameliorate the situation. the egyptians are keeping their border closed. whatever they say about not being able to open a corridor may or may not be true. but there's no doubt about the fact that arab nations in the region have the capability, and one would argue, the responsibility, to ameliorate the situation. both tactically and strategically. >> jeremy, president biden has sent two cabinet secretaries to the region, obviously just days after the attack. he has spoken out forcefully. but nbc news is reporting that the u.s. has told israel privately to show restraint in how they retaliate against hamas. what's the issue here for the white house? >> actually, my sense, stephanie, is that unlike past conflicts where after a couple of days of air strikes by israel, and the retaliation for rocket artillery and mortar strikes, the administration, whether it was obama, or trump, or biden, they usually say, all right, cool, it cut it off. i actually think the massage is a lot different this time. because, of course, the stakes are so much higher. and the situation for israel is so much graver. i think the biden administration may be saying, of course, they're going to respect the laws of war. you're not going to purposely target civilians. the idea does not do that. i think fundamentally, the message you're going to see is transmitting publicly and privately is we have your back, israel. we know you have to destroy hamas. we are going to step in and deter iran from jumping to this conflict, to deter hezbollah. at the end of the day, we've got your back. tony blinken said it plainly, even though israel doesn't need the united states to defend it, united states is prepared and ready to do so. >> kevin, if this conflict drags on, which there's a very good chance it will, what's the risk for israel and the u. s.? >> the risk is the alliance that germany has talked about. it's in danger. for a lot of time, i've come on programs like this during conflicts when there are political questions about the commitment of the united states to israel between republicans and democrats, for example. we often say that militarily, and to the intelligence community, there is no daylight. never has been. but if netanyahu goes forward with a full -- raising into gaza, there is no way the world is going to continue to support that. it's definitely going to question why the white house will continue to support that. it hasn't been just privately, already, secretary austin in israel openly, in his comments on the defense ministry, with the defense to minister in israel gave that caution to. said this can't be about revenge. can't be about seeking surrender. it's gotta be about your own security. it's going to be incredibly difficult for the united states to thread that needle and say we're going to support israel's attacks on hamas and try to wage a campaign similar to ices, even austin is using that language to. it's not the same, i. s. i. s. was attacking arab and muslim nations as well. not just jews in israel. they were seeking territory in those neighboring states, not just in israel. so it's not the same. but that long term -- the longer this goes on, the harder it's going to be for the united states and israel's traditional, rock-solid alliance to continue. that's not even getting to the regional difficulties that jeremy has begun to better than i can, about keeping iran at bay, keeping the gulf state support that has been growing over the years for israel, which has been questioned by not just palestinians, but by all sorts of communities as authoritarian or authoritarian leaning governments leaning on each other for their own power and security. it's risk all around. >> gentlemen, thank you all so much. we need your expertise now more than ever. please stay close. kevin baron, jack jacobs, jeremy bash. when we come back, a look at the growing humanitarian crisis in gaza. longtime nbc news foreign correspondent in tel aviv bureau chief, martin fleischer is here. later, we'll check in with someone who had five family members taken hostage by hamas, as israel prepares for a ground offensive into gaza. the 11th hour special coverage just getting underway, a very important friday night. my husband and i have never been more active. shingles doesn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers. good for you, shingles doesn't care. because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. fainting can also happen. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. shingles doesn't care but, shingrix protects. shingrix is now zero dollars for almost everyone. ask your doctor about shingrix today. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? 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was this an intelligence failure? was it a failure of the units on the border? what went wrong? >> this is a plan that was being planned in a massive scale plan. why we didn't know, we will find out why we didn't know. why we didn't know. but now, we are not -- our mindset, our mindset now is in the other side of the border. >> a military with a difficult fight ahead, and difficult questions to answer. >> joining me now, martin fletcher, former nbc news correspondent and bureau chief -- he spent over 30 years reporting for nbc hand has won every television awards out there including five emmys. pulitzer prize-winning journalist, david rohde, nbc senior executive editor for national security. david, this is your reporting. what can you tell us about the secret hamas documents? >> my colleague, ana schachter, was the one who obtained them. they're just extraordinary in the terms of amount of preparation. there was one of those pieces of paper that had dots on it. that was four for motorcycles. there is an instruction about how closely they should drive together. they knew exactly where to go, they had studied there was a cafeteria in a kibbutz where many people would be. there were 2 am elementary schools they were going to surround. the orders were to get hostages, and kill as many people as possible. then there was a second plan to take the hostages to a second unit, a second group of hamas members who would then immediately gather the hostages and ferry them into gaza very quickly. so, extraordinary intelligence, i'll be curious to hear what martin has to say. they somehow are able to exponentially increase the sophistication of the way they had attacked israel in the past. >> martin, what do you think? >> i do agree -- i agree, i think there's an extraordinary -- i think what it indicates is that the hamas was very serious about actually negotiating for the release of their own prisoners using the hostages. why else would you specifically target children as hostages? they know how israel obsesses over every individual person who's taken captive, every single corpse they negotiate to get back. so to actually go kidnapped children, they must have realized that this is really going to make the israelis focus on negotiating strategy with them, in order to release the 5000 palestinian security prisoners in israeli jails. only 183 of which, by the way, are from gaza. i think they are serious about negotiating. but now, the story has just rumbled past that. this is no longer about possible negotiations. it's about all out war. >> you've covered hamas for years. what can you tell our audience about their mandate, their goal, their mission? >> first of all, they have a reputation of always doing what they say. they say they want to negotiate the release of their prisoners, that's always been an overriding palestinian goal, for years. as much as we think it's awful to hold hostages in the middle of where they are, they believe they are prisoners of the most important palestinian right at the moment. they want to free their prisoners. at the same time, they want to destroy israel anyway they can. the other possibility, was this an attempt to unify the arab world and to get neighboring arab countries organizations to attack israel at the same time? was this the endgame? we don't really know, by the way. either way, i do believe they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. i don't believe that they expected to succeed as much as they have done. >> david, israel has ordered the evacuation of 1 million, more than 1 million people in northern gaza. what are they supposed to do? how can they physically do this? >> it's very difficult. i mean, gaza is roughly the size of washington d. c.. there are over 2 million people there. so some of them have tried to move south, but there's very few places for them to go. there's lots of reporting on tunnels, and all these networks underground, bunkers that have been created by hamas. but another colleague of mine, jasmine salon, has been calling gaza all the time. civilians aren't getting into those underground bunkers. they are only being used by hamas. it's a terrible situation for the civilians, and trying to get 1 million people to move is extraordinarily difficult in any situation. but now, it's even worse. >> if i can add, that the discussion is about how can they possibly move 1 million people, where can they go, there's nowhere to go. but i don't think for a moment that israel actually expects 1 million people to leave the area. they're calling on them to leave. i think all they are doing is trying to extend blush a moral high ground. we told them to go, it's their own fault they didn't leave. they know inevitably there's going to be a huge civilian casualties. they think it gives them the moral high ground. the moral high ground is a slippery slope. at the moment, israel has the support and the understanding of the world, given the atrocities committed against their civilians. that's going to change overtime. they've got a window of opportunity right now, to attack, and to keep the sympathy of the world. but the more the attack, the more they, kill the more civilian palestinian still billion victims there are. they're going to lose that moral high ground. the stories going to turn. >> i want to share a bit of what president biden said earlier today. >> we can't lose sight of the fact that the overwhelming majority of palestinians had nothing to do with hamas, and hamas is appalling attacks. and they are suffering as a result as well. >> martin, you spent time in gaza. four people have never been there, who don't know much about, it what you want us to know? >> it's a horrific place to live. i wouldn't want to live in gaza. >> most people there don't want to live there. >> that's true. the tragedy is that when israel left, pulled out the settlers in 2006, the story was going to be, oh, palestinians have every opportunity now to create the singapore of the middle east. palestinians have among the highest per capita number of people with academic degrees in the middle east. there's nothing else to do. they go to university, they study, there's no jobs anyway. then when they graduate, they still have no jobs. there's a lot of frustration and anger among quite an educated population. same story in the west bank, by the way in terms of per capital number of academic degrees. so they're well educated, they're frustrated, they've got nowhere to go. they've got no jobs and they've been living like this for 20, 25 years. let me just say one other thing. before the second -- gaza, sorry, before the first intifada, got it was like a holiday place. israelis used to go there, i used to go down, drive down the beach, let's go from tel aviv and eat shrimp scene gaza. oh that was a thing. a lot of people did this. >> how many years ago was this? >> i guess before the 1970, 1988 intifada. it was a fun place to go. palestinians by the tens of thousands worked in israel, there was quite a good degree of cooperation. the problem, was israel thought that's enough. we don't have to do more. but of, course palestinian people want more than to charge israelis exorbitant amounts for shrimps. they want to their own freedom, they want to their own country. so israel miscalculated. there was that period of time when gaza was a popular place to go. it is a beautiful place, wonderful beaches. but it's the most -- by the way, it's not one of the most densely populated areas on earth. it's densely populated, it's nowhere near that. but it's one of the most miserable places on earth. >> gentlemen, please stay with us. we have more to cover after the break. when we come back, the possible ground invasion looms, many israelis are wrestling with whether or not to punish or rally behind prime minister netanyahu. we'll get into that when the 11th hour continues. 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how is this time different? >> well, in times of war, it's famously said that everybody unites behind the government, and any difficulties there are, any issues they have to wait till the war is over. this time it's a little bit different. the united for sure. that you nation was so divided, so totally divided down the middle, right before the war. it couldn't just stop on a dime. there are many calls now for netanyahu to go. people are saying he should resign. after such a disaster, he should resign. the chief of staff to, coming under a lot of criticism, obviously. netanyahu, one of the reasons that hamas attack to, one assumes, and many reasons, one of, them they must have looked at the situation in israel and seen a divided, confused country. and the country was divided and confused, very simply, because of netanyahu's attempt to change the legal system, and to diminish the powers of the supreme court. hundreds of thousands of israelis on the streets every saturday for ten months, it's quite extraordinary. those people are just suddenly shutting up. they are the people who mostly go to the army. that center left group. plenty of the center-right go to the army too, of course. these people immediately dropped everything, took out their guns, and went to war. responded to the call to join the reserve army. they are angry. very, very angry. this is a pretty personal war in israel now. >> rightfully so. >> yes, of course. half the country holds netanyahu personally responsible. >> how complicated is this for him? >> deeply complicated. there was one poll that just came out recently that showed support for him almost dropping in half. the opposition, which has had such a hard time forging a majority of its own, they are support doubling. that they would easily win elections if it was held now. that's logical given what happened. this is just a staggering failure of leadership. the intelligence community in israel definitely, but to netanyahu himself. there was a key problem is a large amount of israeli army had moved to the west bank. and we're around janine, there were a lot of tensions in the west bank, where several's were supported by netanyahu's government have carried out the highest numbers of attacks on palestinians in years. so you had very few forces in gaza, a huge intelligence failure. i think there's unity to finish this operation against gaza. but netanyahu will pay a very large political price after this war ends. >> david, while rockets are being launched in the air, disinformation and misinformation is being launched all across the internet. how worried should we be about all of the false information and the fact that much of it could be taking hold? >> it's a huge problem. covering this conflict, which is so complicated, so tragic, so bitter, just even talking among americans, talking among journalists, people are afraid -- it's the loudest voices that are dominating the conversation. you hear, there are many people worry today about a potential attack in the united states. the former head of hamas had called for a day of rage. you had police forces, o police in new york, and los angeles, arriving for work in uniform, because there was such fear of violence here. nothing happened. there have been calls from extremists in the middle east for attacks in the middle east and u.s., but generally they don't happen. i think it's very difficult to know it's real. there's some people who don't trust anything they are reading. my fear is that the -- it will just destabilize the u.s. and divide u.s. also. there's some people, i think, who question the veracity of what happened, we were reporting already in this broadcast, it was a terrorist attack. the intentional targeting of civilians. this concert, the music festival, civilians in the village that ana schachter reported on. it's inexcusable. i think there's also a sense of how has there been no solution, no long term solution for palestinians. all these decades and years that have passed, as martin mentioned earlier, the frustration that the palestinian community, that they don't feel hope, they don't see a resolution. it's a very tragic situation. >> martin, what do you think? >> agree with everything. one other aspect, a more positive aspect of social media, is that for instance, now, in israel, the israelis posting time and time again heartbreaking photographs of the people who've been kidnapped, killed, or in the middle, we don't know where they are. what strikes me is frankly, they are very good-looking people. these men and women, they're young, they're handsome, they're beautiful. we don't know whether they're alive or dead. maybe in some -- >> beautiful lives were ahead of them. >> beautiful lives, beautiful people with beautiful lives. in a problematic country. social media has been able to broadcast that around the world. people are seeing these images, and sympathizing. for israel, social media has been a very helpful thing. of course, in many other ways, you don't know what to believe. but i want to point that out. because social media, we're always saying, oh, this stage of the democracy, disinformation, you don't know what's real. but there's some positive aspects, very positive aspects. >> all week we've spoken to family members of hostages who haven't heard from the israeli government did all. they are dependent on the images, on the facebook pages, on what they are finding on the internet. it's been their only source of hope. david martin, thank you so much for all that you are doing this week. thank you both for being here. i appreciate it. >> when we come back, we will be checking back in with someone who has had five family members abducted by hamas terrorists. his message to the world, in the 11th hour continues. meet the portable blender we can barely keep in stock. blendjet 2 gives you ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go. so you can blend up a mouthwatering smoothie, protein shake, or latte wherever you are! recharge quickly with any usb port. best of all, it even cleans itself! just blend water with a drop of soap. what are you waiting for? 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week, dory roberts. five of his family members were objected by hamas terrorists in the attack last weekend, dory, thank you so much for joining us again. i know this is an absolutely heartbreaking moment for so many families, including ours. have you heard anything about your loved ones since we last spoke. >> good evening, stephanie. thank you so much again for having me back on your show. this has been a really long, endless week. for me and my family. we heard some news, we've got some updates. we are still don't have the last word about where are they, or if they're well or not, we are still looking for any information we can hold on to. we are hugging tonight, all those americans who lost their lives, almost 30 of them, in this conflict. we want to thank our brothers and sisters here in the u.s., on any side of the political line. thank you for all the leadership's, from senators, the president, blinken, and everybody else who helped lead, who came to the region, who supported. governors, anybody who showed up and stood up with israel this week. we thank you, we thank you again and again, for all you are doing for our country, for our family, for our family members who are sitting still for the hamas. we have no idea where they are, or what they are doing. we hope still for the safe return back to our family. we are learning that this week, we found out that three members of my family had actually foreign passports in germany, so we are very much blessed, our friends in germany to join this effort. the foreign minister of germany showed up in israel yesterday, and sent a representative, as well as among other families who've been kidnapped, people who shared that pain with us. we know them, we feel their pain, we share their agony, and we are all together trying and hope together that we'll have our family members with us together again soon. that together in israel, safe, unharmed, reunited with our families. it's been such a long week, and i cannot even start to describe what has been going through our minds, our hearts, every minute, every day, we are sitting here. we are waiting for the official words, waiting for any news to arrive to us in any form, shape, from any media out there. it's not there quite yet. we are still hoping for the best. last we learned that our family is still in captive. all of them showed up on newspapers and new york times later on after we didn't hear from them for three or four days. other eyewitness saw something similar still waiting for the officials to give us the proof of that. it's been just a nightmare over here. family members are going for interviews in the media, sharing the stories, sharing the pain, asking, begging for help. anybody can help us. it has been quite an exhaustion to a lot of us. we see the holocaust -- but we are still hoping, we're getting so many responses from all over the world. from here, locally, in our childhood cities, from our state representatives, to mayors, to fellow americans, to our own committee members, from our synagogues and leaders. and the religion side. everything is blessed, everything is absolutely a wonderful experience of giving us that strength to get up every morning, and believe that we can do it, and we can bring them back safe home to us. this has been an absolutely -- thank you. i really, really appreciate all your help, and bringing the on your platform tonight for your viewers. >> i'm dori, thank you so much. you are in our thoughts and prayers tonight. i appreciate you being here. >> thank you so much, stephanie. thank you. >> before i signed off tonight, i need to say that i'm really sorry. in the seconds before the show started, i was caught on camera making a face, i did not know i was on our air. i should not have made that face. particularly in light of the terrible conflict, that we are covering in the middle east. i am terribly sorry, i'm terribly embarrassed. i hope you accept it. i'm so, so sorry. on that note, i wish 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