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MSNBCW Alex July 3, 2024

Which is worrisome. Thank you, my friend, for all the breaking news. And thanks to you at home for joining in this continuing night of news development. A lot of big breaking news. In the last hour there has been unprecedented upheaval in congress, specifically among the republican majority in the house. The partys nominee for speaker of the house, congressman Steve Scalise has Just Announced that he is dropping out as a candidate. I just share what my colleagues that i withdraw my name as a candidate for the speaker does a country. As you look at over the last couple of weeks, there is still work to be done. We are going to have more on that story in just a bit. But we continue our coverage of the Israel Hamas War which is about to enter its seventh day of fighting. A number of dead from this conflict has now reached more than 2800 people. Among that number, israel reports at least 1300 israeli lives lost, including over 200 israeli soldiers. The Palestinian Health Ministry Reports more than 1500 palestinian lives have been lost. Those same authorities report that the number of injured israelis is more than 3300. The number of injured palestinians as more than 6000. The number of americans confirmed to have killed in this con flicked is now 27. Today u. S. Arrived in israel where he met with survivors of the outdoor concert which was among the deadliest sites of hamass attack. Secretary blinken also met with the newly formed unity government of Prime Minister netanyahu, and he reaffirmed u. S. Support for israel. You may be Strong Enough on your own to defend yourself, but as long as america exists, you will never ever have to. We will always be there. By your side. But in those same remarks, Secretary Blinken also issued a note of caution for israel. Its so important to take every possible precaution to avoid harming civilians. That is why we mourn the loss of every, every nationality and been killed. Right now the Israeli Military has been amassing troops and trunks along the border, preparing for a possible Ground Invasion. Nbc news as Richard Engel is on that border, and is reporting from there this evening. Israels military is amassing tanks and troops along the border with gaza. Its Chief Of Staff is saying now it is time for war and ahead of jamals and all those who operate under him deserve to die. 22 year old lives in gaza. The media is barely covering any news because of the situation. Theres no electricity. There is no connection. Israelis are literally bombing everywhere. Nowhere safe. 2 Million People live inside gaza without the freedom to move beyond its borders. Half of those people are children, and israel has now blocked access to food, fuel electricity, and water. To tt, and the United Nations is warning of a severe shortage of potable water, a crisis affecting mo tn 650,000 people. The u. N. Also reports that 300,000 people in gaza have been displaced, as israeli airstrikes continue to destroy entire neighborhoods, and overwhelmed gazis emergency services. Sky newss john sparks filed this report from one of gases main hospitals, and just a warning, some of what you are about to hear is graphic and involves children this is l shiva, the territory central hospital, where they have treated nearly 5000 patients in the past four days. This ten Year Old Girl was hit by shrapnel from a blast. Her brother lies under a tent on the hospital for court. They ran out of beds days ago. The ferocity of the attack, the number of patients, the children brought in or brought in from Crush Injuries from collapsed buildings or shrapnel or debris. There needs to be a stop to the bombing and their needs to be a hammon humanitarian corridor. The hospital, ill shiva hospital, expects will run out of fuel in less than three days. In the meantime, helps for some kind of humanitarian corridor remain distant at best. Today the president of egypt, gazas best hope for that corridor, said that palestinians must stay steadfast and remain on their land. Joining me now is ali velshi, msnbc chief correspondent, reporting from ashkelon, israel, neatly near the gaza border. Ali, what is the latest as it concerns the situation on the ground there . Well, were hearing, as you are introducing the show, we heard more bombing in gaza, two and a half miles in that direction, and hearing fighter jets overhead right now. This is been continuous for the last several hours. Little breaks in between, but youre hearing that bombing, and those are bombs and missiles that are coming from aircraft or naval vessels off in the mediterranean. Here, two and a half miles for the border, there are rockets and mortars, and rockets could go a little farther. Workers can go about five mile. So something is hit here in ashkelon. You can tell from the shape of this crater. This is the point of impact. What it does is, it breaks up the ground. Pieces like this of the ground becomes shrapnel. In your report about shrapnel, heres what happens here, this whole building, everythings been wiped out. There are holes all over it, the windows are gone, all the ceilings are gone. If it were bullets, you might think you were bullets, but they would all look like that, right . But his shrapnel. So this is rocks, this is part of whatever it was, rocket or mortar. Take a look at this. Youre sitting in this office. He goes to the window. Thats obvious. But it went through the wall behind it as well. Its not just that. It goes through all of these types of things and right now the place is entirely deserted, no one is here, but look at this car in front of me. Another example. It looks from the front like bullet holes or its riddled by machine gun fire, its not. This is the shrapnel that came from the very crater. Take a look inside of what you see see. You can look inside the car. If you have been sitting inside the car, when a mortar or rocket hits you, this is what happens. It destroys everything around you. So this is what example. Obviously we saw the ferocity and the massacre that happened at the nova festival, where we saw the things that happened on the kibbutzs, the savagery, the impersonal savagery, but there were 2100 rockets fired friday night and saturday morning, and this is a kind of damage that is done. All across israel, but mostly here in southern israel, you see places that look like this. Ali, are you sensing theres a lot of widespread expectation that the Ground Invasion is gonna begin anytime soon . What can you tell us about the encourages you see as it concerns israel to gaza. . A yes, it sounds like, and richard has been reporting, hes closer to the border than i, am hes been reporting that theyve got everything they need in position to go into gaza, and what theyre waiting for at the moment is the hostage situation. There are 150, 100 250 hostages that israel believes have been taken by hamas. Theyre using the were taken because they dont entirely know where they are or what condition they are in. About 100 families will probably get an update on that shortly, forum confirming that their loved ones have been taken, but for those families, they are very worried that the minute israel crosses into gaza, their leverage is gone. The value of those hostages has expired. So they want israel to concentrate on a negotiated agreement, some way to get as many out as they can and then deal with hamas and do whatever is necessary to do from israeli perspective in gaza. But for the moment, while much of israels anxiously awaiting this Ground Incursion to root out whatever is going on in gaza, the Hostage Families are very worried about that. Theyre playing pleading with the government, saying to more, whatever youre doing, two more. The secretary of state, anthony blinken, who was here by the way, hes gone to a man, georgia, tomorrow hes going to qatar, where hes going to negotiate with the qatari, to negotiate an humanitarian corner corridor or hostage release, so you have people in gaza were struck there, as you said 300,000 who dont have homes, no power, no water, is running out in food is running out, and then youve got a hostage situation. So a lot to deal with on day six. We are no closer to a resolution to this one. Ali velshi, thank you so much, ali, please stay safe. We appreciate you. Now i want to turn to greg karl chevrolet, score spawn for the economist, who joins us tonight from dubai. Greg, thanks for being here. I just want to get your reaction to the statistic we have today that israel has dropped 6000 bombs in less than a week on gaza, which is more than the United States dropped in on afghanistan in less, in a year. Beyond the endgame of complete and utter leveling of gaza, what do you interpret in terms of israels strategy, its broader intentions in that kind of initial show of force . I think israel has thrown out some of the rules that it has around restraints over the past week. I think the reaction to this, both the public reaction in the political reaction israel, was one of shock and anger after the attack on saturday. We have heard some incredibly harsh and sometimes dehumanizing rhetoric coming out of the Israeli Government. So i think the approach to gaza has been where in past conflicts in 2014, 2008, there have been some restrictions, or some safeguards around the way the israeli militants use air power. I think theyve thrown those out the window. They have been much more willing to use military force. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about the reverse of, that which is hamas. Its reaction to what, i know you termed on a podcast that im a big fan of, the catastrophic success of this mission. To some degree the initial reports were brutalizing enough, but the staggering brutality that its been real revealed invasive is unlike anything weve seen from anyone, with maybe the exception of isis. Do you think hamas ultimately believed it would be, for a lack of a better term, successful in this mission . Ill say first, no one knows for sure. This seems like it was planned by a handful of senior hamas leaders in gaza, none of whom have given interviews, none of whom have talked about. So theres still a lot we dont know about the planning, but i have heard, over the past week, talking to both israelis and talking to palestinians, including members of hamas, a belief on both sides that yes, this may have been, to term use the term, a catastrophic success, something that went further than hamas expected. There is a strategy to carry out an attack on israel, but nobody expected it would go this far, no one expected that the defense is on the israeli side would fall as quickly as they did. We heard yesterday, speaking with hamas official in gaza, who said morales that. Theres no expectation that the israeli army would be caught as unaware as it was. There was no expectation that hundreds of militants would be able to stream across the border fence, essentially uncontested. People of hamas are now trying to suggest that hamas attacked military posts and other people stream across to carry on atrocities. I think thats trying to shift blame. But that is what we are hearing from people and hamas and also from some israeli observers. What do you think the effect of that is in terms of how this plays regionally, especially with arab countries, the idea that israels overwhelming response here, the leveling of gaza would seem to sort of stir support for the palestinian cause at the same time the brutality, the horror of these videos that the world are seeing in terms of what these Hamas Terrorists pigeons willi operation israel would seem to counteract that. What do you think is the net result of all of this in terms of potential alliances that israel was building with, say, saudi arabia . I think its a bit of a different reaction, and its very hard to say how 300 Million People across more than a dozen arab countries feel about something, but its a different reaction than i remember in 2014, for example, during that war. There certainly has been an outpouring of sympathy for the palestinians, and i think that will grow as we see increasing scenes of devastation in gaza. But there also has been a good deal of horror in the region, that these atrocities that were carried out in israel. I think for governments in the middle east, that has put a lot of them in what feels like a difficult position. So saudi arabia, for example, which has been talking throughout the year about a possible Normalization Deal with israel, about establishing diplomatic ties with israel, the saudi government initially came out with quite a her statement, essentially blaming israel for what happened on saturday, blaming the Israeli Occupation and its violations toward palestinians for the massacre that we saw on saturday. The saudis will tell you privately that they dont think that this is the rails the normalization efforts. But they would still like to move ahead. But they feel like they are caught between, on the one hand, leading to show support for the palestinians, and on the other hand, many governments of the region, countries in the region, not supporters of hamas privately would not be happy if there was, would not be unhappy if there was some kind of political change in gaza. Talk about the politics domestically in israel, netanyahus form this unity government. It is fragile. There is already fracturing there. And i wonder, the latest polling shows that 56 , a very slim majority of israelis, believe that netanyahu must resign at the end of the war. I wonder how you think this campaign of extensive bombing and potential Ground Invasion factors into all of that in his political future. I think this unity government, No Matter What, it will be short lived. Its meant to be their only for the duration of the war and i think its quite likely that israel will head to a Snap Election after the wars over. I think for netanyahu, for his political future some of that will depend on the outcome of the war, whether Israelis Feel that is a successful campaign, whether Israelis Feel that something dragged on, didnt achieve its goals, cost significant number of lives of israeli soldiers, so that piece of it will have to wait and see. I think the other thing that is going to happen in the weeks and months ahead, is that netanyahu is going to try and shift blame for the profound Security Failure here on saturday. Hes gonna want to put that blame on his of the military, the heads of security services, which is something he has always done throughout his political career. He has shifted blame to the military and the defense establishment. I dont think israelis are going to accept that argument this time. I think theyre going to hold netanyahu responsible. He is someone who, throughout his career, has made his whole pitch to voters, security, his handling of his really security. Now he has presided over the greatest Security Failure of israels history, and so never count him out. He is the consummate political survivor, but i think its very difficult to imagine surviving this political. Quick curl storm, middle eastern correspondent from the economist. Thank you so much for staying up late. Your thoughts and failure as we work through a just believable moment for global conflict. When we come back, we will turn to the other major story breaking this evening, the catastrophic dysfunction of the House Republican conference, which is just lost its candidate for speaker of the house. Well have more on that, coming up next. Omin up next. [female narrator] five billion people lack access to safe surgery. Thousands of children are suffering and dying from treatable causes. For 40 years, mercy ships has deployed floating hospitals to provide the free surgeries these children need. Join us. 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