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organization hamas, a group whose stated purpose was to kill jews. this was an act of sheer evil. >> that was part of president joe biden's speech yesterday, promising that the united states will stand with israel following the horrific hamas tear terror attacks. meanwhile the president also confirmed there are americans among the dozens of hostages being held by the terror organization. we'll have the latest on the efforts to freedom. and then on capitol hill far-right republicans could create more chaos in the house by rejecting a plan from the biden administration to combine aid for israel and ukraine into a single package. good morning, and welcome to "way too early" on this wednesday, october 11. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we have a busy day, and we'll begin this morning with israel ramping up its strikes against hamas. war planes hammered neighborhood after neighborhood along the gaza strip yesterday. retaliating to the surprise attack hamas launched over the weekend that killed hundreds upon hundreds of people. now, prime minister benjamin netanyahu is vowing to destroy the terrorist organization. israel ordered a total siege of gaza, stopping the entry of food, fuel, and medicine. the only remaining access route from egypt was also shutdown yesterday because of the nearby strikes. israel says it has now regained controls of the areas hamas attacked over the weekend. this as the israeli military has summoned 360,000 reservists to join the fight. that's roughly 4% of the country's total population. meanwhile, there are all signs the war is beginning to escalate into neighboring countries. yesterday there were exchanges of fire along the israeli borders with both lebanon and syria. according to officials more than 2,000 people have now lost their lives in the israel-hamas war. israel defense forces say at least 1,200 israelivise been killed since the fighting saturday morning. health ministries in gaza and west bank say that more than 900 palestinian lives have been claimed there. 14 americans are confirmed among the dead. there's fear that number will continue to rise. president biden yesterday confirmed there are also americans who are being held hostage by hamas. it's not clear exactly how many were taken captive, but the white house says at least 20 americans are still missing. israeli officials say that between 100 and 150 people are being held captive. hamas has threatened to execute those people if israel bombs civilians in gaza without warning. families of the missing americans are now sharing what they know and are asking both the israeli and u.s. governments to do more. >> i normally don't use my phone on the jewish sabbath, but it was an emergency and i needed to know where my son was. so i turned my phone on i believe at 8:23 in the morning, and when i turned it on there were two texts in a row from hersch at 8:11. the first one said i love you, and immediately also at 8:11, it said, "i'm sorry." so i knew immediately wherever he was, it was a terrible situation. i took it to mean i love you, and i'm sorry because whatever is going to happen is going to cause you tremendous pain and worry. i know that he was injured in a gun battle -- i mean they were all civilians at a music festival, and they were fish in a barrel sitting in this bomb shelter. terrorists came to the door. they were throwing grenades in, shooting machine guns. >> some really heart wrenching accounts yesterday. joining us now from tel aviv nbc correspondent kelly cobiella. give us the latest what you're hearing in israel and in particular the efforts to bring some of these hostages home. >> reporter: yeah, first off, jonathan, the u.n. -- sorry, the european union is now calling for a humanitarian corridor in gaza and an end to the blockade of food, fuel, and water, drinking water. the u.n. says the situation is really deteriorating quickly there, that shelters are overcrowded, there isn't enough drinking water. there isn't enough food. and the u.s. -- the national security advisor jake sullivan confirmed the u.s. is actually in talks with egypt and israel about opening some sort of safe passage so that the civilians inside gaza can get out as that bombardment continues. and it is continuing yet again for a fifth day today in gaza. the number of dead rising on both sides. here in israel as you mentioned families are still trying to search for their loved ones. we've spoken to a number of families over the past several days, another relative just this morning whose family was in -- when gunmen attacked. last night we spoke to the parents of two daughters 22 and 25 years old. they're from l.a. they've been living here for the past 14 years. they were at that music festival. one of their friends survived. she told us that all of them rushed into a shelter when they heard bombs. they then heard gunfire. there was a crush to get into the shelter. the friend who survived was crushed under bodies. she says she then heard grenades, gunfire. the gunmen lit a fire at the front of the shelter trying to kill the people who were taking shelter inside. and the parents of those two girls still haven't heard where they are. they've heard nothing from them since saturday morning. they've handed over dna. they did that on sunday, and they're now simply waiting for a phone call to find out whether their daughters were captured or were killed. and this, jonathan, is the kind of just horrible limbo that so many families are in right now waiting -- handing over dna, waiting for a phone call as authorities here in israel try to identify hundreds of bodies, jonathan. >> a situation difficult even to fathom. nbc news correspondent kelly cobiella reporting live for us from tel aviv. thank you. and we'll continue to have live reports from israel throughout the morning. elsewhere, united states intelligence had no sign that a hamas attack on israel was imminent. white house national security advisor jake sullivan confirmed the lapse in intelligence yesterday. >> the israeli government has placed a high premium on its intelligence capacity as it relates to hamas, as it relates to the west bank, as it relates to hezbollah. and why it is that they did not have warning from this is not a question that i can answer from this. >> what about u.s. intelligence? was there anything that crosses your desk that would suggest this was coming? >> we did not see anything that suggested an attack of this type was going to unfold anymore than the israelis did. >> and it had been about a week prior that sullivan had said the middle east was as quiet as it's been in decades. really stunning admissions, ryan, from the white house podium, from the national security advisor. what is your reaction to that, and what do you think may have happened? there seemed to be some chatter maybe israelis were too reliant on technology and not enough on human sources. >> i'm not sure you can be too reliant on technology, but it's proof technology is not a solution in and of itself. the israelis have the most cutting edge artificial intelligence. it's basically a surveillance state the way they interact, what it also speaks to is the total imeshment. and we can throw that forward and know there are going to be many more bloody scenes in this war. when you have civilians used as human shields, you have all those hostages now to be used as levelerage in what comes next. you know it's going to be bloody no matter what happens. >> ryan, you write in your wheel house here the technology, that's how it's used for intelligence, but now what's your sense how technology will be used for the battles ahead particularly the siege of gaza were to come. what role could it play in that in trying to retrieve these hostages? >> this is where they really are specialized. so, of course, when israel makes strikes against gaza, there are civilians casualties, but they don't go out searching for civilians. they aren't out there massacring babies and families, so this allows the israelis to limit if damage outside of targets they're trying to hit. of course, don't forget we've seen those exchanges across the israeli border. israel is better arm than hamas. this is not just a war or siege that might be occurring in the guzza strip in coming days. it might be on multiple fronts. so the israeli technology is going to help them eventually win and contain the situation, but there is going to be a heavy civilian cost. we have to become prepared for that, and then the situation with these hostages, we just don't know. we need to prepare for situations like live streamed executions on social media platforms. that's the sort of tools that hamas now has available for itself in the face of all that. >> truly horrific. in fact, the israeli government put out warnings yesterday telling parents to keep their kids off of phones and social media apps in case those executions are indeed live streamed. global correspondent for axios ryan heath, really appreciate you being with us this morning. still ahead on "way too early" we'll have more on the conflict in israel and also take a look at some of the other stories making headlines this morning including new federal charges for republican congressman george santos of new york. pretty stunning ones at that. plus, prosecutors are trying to force donald trump's legal team to reveal their defense stratsagy in the federal election case months before the trial. we'll explain how and why it might impact the case. those stories and a check on the weather forecast when we come right back. r forecast when we c right back rsv is in for a surprise. meet arexvy. 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they'll looko closeout the twins tonight in game four. both of theional division series matchups resumed this evenin that was both in game three. the philadelphiallies will host the atlanta brave that series is 1-1. meanwhile, the los angeles dodgers will look to avoid elimination on the road against the arizona diepdened backs. also the nhl is back. it opened up with a trio of games. whily touted rookie beat the chicago black hawks beat the pittsburgh penguins. time now for the weather and let's go to meteorologist angie lassman up there at 30 rock with the forecast. angie, how's it looking? >> hello, my friend. looking soggy in some spots across the country. even into the weekend we're going to vp an unsettled forecast. it's the rain across parts of the gulf coast. southern texas to the florida panhandle that's where we're seeing the bulk of that rain. by the time we get through thursday 1 to 3 inches is going to be likely. you can see those higher amounts in the darker red. that focused more towards portion of florida which will likely still see some of that rain working through, the tail end of it at least getting through tomorrow. we wake up to frost advisories rather with 18 million people impacted from virginia to minnesota. we are dealing with some chilly, chilly temperatures this morning so jackets, the extra layers are needed for sure. we've got 47 in detroit, 48, and so an extra layer is going to go a long way. we look all the way to the coast to see coast to coast storms today. look what happens as we get into the higher elevations of rockies here for thursday we're going to see snow for the forecast, also see rain and potential for strong storms will be out there across parts of the central plains. by the time we get into friday it moves over portions of of the great lakes and midwest. and then of course saturday like crockwork we're once again going to settle over the north east seeing plenty of rain. >> angie, i believe this will be the 187th rainy weekend in the north east. >> it seems right to me. >> all right, we'll stay on it as friday approaches. angie lassman, thank you i guess. still ahead here on "way too early," republicans beginning the official process of selecting a new house speaker today. we'll take a look at the two lawmakers who have already entered the race and see if there are any wild card candidates who might factor into the equation. that's next when "way too early" comes right back. next when "wa" comes right back (jason) sean! do you mean this one - the one with titanium? 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one of the people you're talking to, republicans on the hill, how confident are they that by day's end or by week's end we'll have a new speaker? >> you know, we went into this yesterday thinking that this was going to be a more unified republican party. that doesn't seem to be the case. after leaving the meeting last night, thomas massey, for instance, said there'd be a 2% chance we'd have a speaker by the end of wednesday. so this is -- >> 2%. >> 2%, so this is assuring it should be a long haul. some people speculate we'll be here until friday. others are say no way it's going to happen this week. and i think partly because there's still a lot of division in the party, and there's actually a question as to how they're going to elect their speaker. >> so let's talk about the two announced candidates, scalise and jordan where, both pretty far right particularly jordan. there's been some worries republicans i've talked to and i'm sure you that neither of them can get the number of votes. so is there a sense right now who would you peg as the favorite? and is there another candidate that could step in? >> that's a great question. i'm not a betting person, but the chances are like you said neither one of them can get the 217 votes, so that leads it up to some kind of consensus candidate. yesterday they came out, many members said they're going to rally around that person, but again they can't even agree on how to actually vote on the speaker. so it's very up in the air. now, there are some dark horses or some consensus candidates that people have been throwing around. they all happen to be chair members. mchenry, he already has a positi, so he would probably be, you know, someone some people could look forward to. i've heard tom cole. i've also heard different chair members. yeah, it'll be interesting to see who pulls through. >> there'd been some thought over the weekend the situation in israel would create a new urgency for this process because the u.s. is really limited in the assistance it could send to tel aviv without a functioning representative, without a speaker. voia picked up on that at all? >> when i asked members a couple days ago hern for instance his thing was, okay, yeah, this is something we need to address but at the same time we need to also address things on our own home front. so i'm not sure that's making people hasten the process at all. >> and then is there a scenario where israel and ukraine aid could be linked or does that seem like a nonstart snr. >> that's something mccaul said the chair of foreign affairs heez suggested the other day. people like marjorie taylor greene she'll not vote on anything that includes ukraine money. >> and there's been some suggestion mchenry himself some mechanism could be created to allow him to preside over some funding. we'll see if that's possible. still ahead here on "way too early," we'll take a look at business with our friends at cnbc as stock futures are little changed as wall street looks ahead to a key inflation point. plus, the number of people with at least $100 million has doubled over the past 20 years. this is not one of them. still, we'll take a look at the rapid rise. our friends at cnbc will join us next. d rise our friends at cnbc will join us next there's something going around the gordon home. good thing gertrude found delsym. now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together. oh, hello! hi! do you know that every load of laundry could be worth as much as $300? 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>> well, the global economy seems to be as it were really the international monetary fund really maintaining thingsacross the board except for the united states saying -- even seeing it in some of the numbers. how many times have i come on the show and said data points continue to surprise to the up side better than anticipated? raising its u.s. growth projectionorhis year by 0.3 percentage points, that means it now expects -- the imf now expects the united states to grow by 2.1% of this year, lowering, however, in the euro zone you have the growth percentage by 0.2%. so only expecting the euro zone to grow 0.7% this year. dire circumstances unfortunately for europe, but the u.s. certainly doing well on the other side. >> yeah, it remains such a disconnect about how americans feel about the economy as to what the numbers actually say. and arabile, let's talk about americans who probably are feeling pretty good about the economy. an exclusive list of wealthy people growing. tell us more. >> yeah, this is an absolutely crazy one. look at this. the population of the super wealthy, so that's people who have around $100 million u.s. or more, definitely not me i don't know about you, but that has doubled over the last 20 years as asset prices managed to soar around the world. that means you've had sentient millionaires grow, 12% growth just over the last year when it comes to those numbers. more than twice the number we had of centi millionaires in 2003. of course you've had lower interest rates as well in that time period. inflation was relatively low as well, so asset growth was quite high. that has come off a little bit of late, but you are still seeing a high number of these people. also there were 500 billionaires -- or under 500 billionaires in 2003. now you have 2,600 billionaires. all i can say to you is, john, is i want to be a billionaire so freaking bad. >> yeah, let's leave it right there. melodious sounds of cnbc's arabile gumead live from london, thank you so much. we'll do an encore tomorrow. the white house has a message for lawmakers giving lukewarm support for israel. you'll hear about that. plus why the possibility of linking u.s. aid to israel and ukraine might be a hard sell to some members of congress. we'll be right back with that. ns we'll be right back with that. you didn't live this strong, this long to get put on the shelf like a porcelain doll. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can build new bone with evenity®. ask your doctor if you can do more than just slowing down bone loss with evenity®. want stronger bones? 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>> i come from a district that has a very vocal and diverse -- politically diverse jewish constituency. i have said repeatedly i am in full solidarity with them as we stand with israel against these terrorist attacks by hamas. last night at our democratic caucus people were united, and i think the president was crystal clear in our unwavering support of israel, making sure they get the aid they need, making sure we're getting the hostages out, and making sure everyone is working in accordance, democracies are working in accordance with international law. >> certainly israel's support is hampered by the lack of a speaker of the house. it in some ways begins in earnest today, but there's some expectation they may not conclude today. what is your sense as you talk to your colleagues across the aisle as in terms when we might see a see a new speaker? >> democrats are squarely 100% behind hakeem jeffreys, and we are open to a bipartisan path forward. >> i believe you may get push back on that. >> that's true. but the reality is republicans are petty. they're petty and pyromaniacs and set fire to congress at the worst time. do i think i think they can get it together in congress before, absolutely not. >> and what do you make of the two announced candidates jim jordan and steve scalise? do you think either of them would be an effective leader, someone you guys could work with? >> no. so one is an acolyte of david duke and the other is sycophant of donald trump. i don't think either of them understands what it means to build consensus. >> let's talk about aid, though. we just mentioned the white house has floated the idea of trying to connect israel and ukraine aid. we know that there are some voices -- there have been for some time now on the republican side who are leery of sending much more money to kyiv. "a," what do you think of the idea, and "b," do you think it can pass? >> i think it's a strong idea and many republicans who support it as well. enemies do tend to work together? we know that hamas is responsible for these attacks against israel. they have close ties with iran. we also know that russia is responsible for compromising the security, the safety, the sovereignty, the independence of ukraine. they also have close ties with iran. it makes sense that we work with our allies and our partners who are democracies and get them the aid that they need to upstand their countries and to beat back the terrorists quite frankly and the autocrats that don't care about democracy. >> you just voiced it. strong support for ukraine and israel, strong support for democracies, but what sort of message do you think it sends to the rest of the world when they look at washington and they see this infighting -- and again we'll put it squarely on the republican led house of representatives. they can't come together with a speaker or an aid package. what are your worries about the message that sends the rest of the globe? >> i think it's incredibly destabilizing. it's emboldening our enemies, and it's raising real concerns for our allies and our partners. you know, i'm concerned that europe is saying, hey, i don't know that we can bet on the united states anymore. and i just don't think that's a position we want to see ourselves moving into. >> democratic congresswoman of california, she sits on the house foreign affairs committee. we're grateful if her expertise this morning. >> up next on "way too early," the first u.s. shipment of advanced weaponry has uh-uh rived in israel fulfilling president biden's promise to back america's ally against hamas. and then coming up on "morning joe," a trail of terror in israel. asids raily soldiers regain control of villages there, the scale of hamas' atrocities are becoming clear. a look at the toll and devastation now weighing on families desperately holding out hope for loved ones who are still missing. we'll get live reporting from israel in the very latest in the fight. plus, we'll speak with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle as aid to israel is gaining bipartisan support on capitol hill, if they can get a speaker. and also ahead, former governor, actor and body builder arnold schwarzenegger will be a guest. "morning joe" a few moments away. s away i was 5...6 years of age and i knew i was going to be a vet. once alexandra called me to let me know that bank of america had approved my loan... it was important to me. we not only just provide the financing piece, we do everything that we can to surround them with the right people. all you need is a perfect, amazing team that will guide you through the right steps to be successful. and that's what bank of america was for me. my team has been in near constant communication of our israeli partners, and partners all across the region and the world, from the moment this crisis began. we're searching for assistance including munitions to replace iron dome. we're going to make sure israel doesn't run out of these critical assets to defend its cities and citizens. my administration has consulted closely with congress throughout this crisis. when congress returns, we're going to ask them to take urgent action to fund the national security requirements of our critical partners. this is not about party or politics, it's about the security of our world, the security of the united states of america. >> the united states is ramping up military aid in several ways. "the times of israel" reports the first transport plane with advanced ammunition has arrived in southern israel. israel's ministry of defense showed this video arriving last night. the munition is intended to, quote, enable significant strikes and preparations for additional scenarios. the move comes after the u.s. began deploying warships and fighter jets near the region earlier this week. current and former senior officials say the movements are designed to send a blunt message to iran, that message, stand down, specifically when it comes to any consideration of unleashing the militant group hezbollah. the u.s. is considering sending a second aircraft carrier to deter others from joining the war between the hamas terror group and tel aviv. additionally a u.s. official is telling nbc news a government of technical experts has been sent to assist in hostage recovery efforts. and secretary of defense lloyd austin says the dod has a small liaison cell. david, great to see you this morning. secretary of state antony blinken en route to israel as we speak, the most public display for tel aviv. give us a sense what we'll hear there and an area you, sadly, know well, hostages, and tell us what the approach will be. >> i think you'll hear vocal support from the secretary of state for israel very similar tone to the president's statement yesterday which was very forceful. but as this drags on, the issue of hostages is going to grow as a political problem both for the israeli government and the american government. unfortunately, it's a very difficult situation. gaza, as viewers have heard, one of the most densely populated places on earth, very easy to hide a hoge, is roughly the size of washington, d.c. an israeli soldier was captured in the past. despite the efforts of israeli intelligence to find him, they were able to hold him for five years and eventually he was freed in a prisoner exchange for more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners. so it's going to be extremely difficult to find these hostages and will be even more difficult to rescue them. >> david, of course, had been held hostage him tell by the taliban. we've seen a little bit of social media footage, not a lot. what's your sense? >> i think they've been divided into groups for safety reasons, likely being held underground. one former intelligence official thought they would be put in houses of families. i was held near families and larger towns most of the time, in an effort to make a raid more difficult and dangerous with u.s. or israeli forces and then if there is a successful raid, you could have hamas threaten to kill other hostages unless the u.s. stomachs. i don't want to say it's a hopeless situation, it's a terrible situation but hamas wants a deal given they got 1,000 prisoners in the past, they see the prisoners as bargaining chips and efforts by diplomats in the region to negotiate some kind of swap, talking about freeing women and children first held by the israelis for some of the hostages. >> david, let's revisit the idea how this could have happened. we heard from jake sullivan earlier in the show saying the israeli intelligence had no warnings. neither did u.s. intelligence, it appears. some reporting there had been warning signs out there, though, that maybe even egypt tried to convey a note something was going on. what's your read as to just what happened and what israel is going to try to look at now to try to piece it together? >> it's a cascading series of errors, it's a catastrophic intelligence failure. israeli forces, some reports, have moved away, on the west bank because of operations conducted there and a lot of the border protection was electronic. "the new york times" reported that drones were first sent in by hamas that took out cell towers and there were actually remote machine guns and surveillance cameras taken out by drones. so the israeli soldiers didn't see hamas coming. they were taken out quickly. there weren't communications or warnings. a catastrophic failure and we're reporting it will be difficult to prove and likely no evidence iran was directly involved in the attack, but the u.s. is investigating whether some of the hamas people that carried this out received advanced training from iran. again, no smoking gun is likely to emerge here, but for years iran has been providing weapons and training and money to hamas, so this attack never could have happened without the years of constant support from iran. >> yeah, a very important point there. nbc news senior executive editor of national security, thank you for joining thus morning. we're very grateful. thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" on this wednesday morning. "morning joe" starts right now. from this moment we must be crystal clear we stand with israel. ta

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