Word, and he will joined by the great lavar burton. Be sure to watch that and to watch velshi weekend warning 10 am to noon on msnbc. Thats the last of the reidout. All in with chris hayes starts now. Tonight, on all in. Jim jordan was involved, was part of the conspiracy in which donald trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election. Donald trump and the magic of case make their pick. Im nominating jim jordan. We trust jim jordan. Im nominating him, and im voting for him. Tonight, jamie raskin on why a Jim Jordan Speakership will mean for the country. Then, the explicit democratic appeal for republicans to join them. We are ready, willing, unable to Work Together for a republican colleagues, but it is on them to join us. Plus, new reporting on Nuclear Secrets shared with customers in Donald Trumps resort. Maralago was a honey pot for the Intelligence Community. Its their worst nightmare. And why the republicans think they can run the dr. Oz playbook again in pennsylvania. Thats 20 for crudites. It doesnt include the tequila. When all in starts, right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. Happy friday. When last we left the House Republican caucus, they were flirting openly with the idea of anointing donald trump as their speaker, Speaker Of The House for the entire United States. This is the man, of course, who system of on the same Capitol Building in an attempt to topple the duly look to government, a man who has since been indicted in 91 critical criminal counts on those events quest for jurisdictions. They were talking about choosing him to lead the United States house of representatives, to make him second in line for the presidency. That is until about 9 30 last night, one republican congressman troy nehls of texas said, just had a great conversation President Trump about the speakers race and he is endorsing jim jordan, the congressman from ohio. Next president incel followed up in the middle the night post confirming he does indeed think that jordan will be a great Speaker Of The House and has his complete and total endorsement. Got that along post. To a very small degree, tiny liver, this is something of relief because i think donald trump as Speaker Of The House would be an awful in dangerous situation. But the potential speakership of jim jordan, farright member of the House Freedom caucus, a loyal trump ally, salts absolutely nothing. And in fact it represents everything that is wrong with the Republican Party. Jim jordan is a member of congress who is arguably most involved in Donald Trumps coup. Earlier this week january Six Committee vice chairwoman liz cheney lay this out for us again in a speech. Jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th van any other member of the house of representatives. Jim jordan wise involved, was part of the conspiracy in which donald trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election. And if the republicans decide that jim jordan should be the Speaker Of The House, there will, and i, by the way, i dont think thats going to happen, i think he will lose, but if they were to decide that, there were no longer be any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. Remember, liz cheney in the january Six Committee subpoena jim jordan. They wanted to know more about what he did know, and what he did in the run up to january six. He flat out nored. It they never got the truth from and they believe to be a key Witness Investigation as vice chair cheney said, at the time. I think that congressman jordan may well be a material witness. He is somebody who was involved in a number of meetings in the lead up to what happened on january 6th, involved in planning for january 6th, certainly for the objections that day, as he said publicly. So he may well be a material witness. Jim jordan is also one of the republican lawmakers who returned to the House Chamber after they were all escorted out, into safe spaces, literally. After the violent sacking of the capitol, when they came back in, who voted in favor long trump school. Five days later trump rule rewarded his loyal foot store soldier with the medal of freedom. Hes not only one of the most devoted members of the caucus, the same group of people that created the situation were in now with the destruction of the ungovernable republican majority in the house, in the words of former speaker john boehner, hes a political terrorist. You close some of these members political terrorists. They are. Jim jordan especially. My colleague from ohio. [laughter] i just never spent saw a guy they spent more time tearing things apart in every building, anything never punishing together. One of the ways Jim Jordan Piercings apart is by fanning the fires of discord on fox news. 565 appearances on fox in a little over six years, and thats just on weekdays. He might as well have his own weekly program. In fact, jordan has made more appearance on fox than any other sitting member of Congress SinceMedia Matters began counting in 2017. His main competitor for speaker, steve soliz, has been on less than 300 times. All of which is to say Jim Jordan Speakership would be an air worstcase scenario. He is a destructive force, a political terrorist. In the words of a colleague, john boehner. A guy who is going to destroy American Democracy for donald trump. Anyone who endorses jordan, in any member who votes for him, is affirmatively voting for a coup plotter, an election denier, and if all of American Democracy. That is especially true for the 18 House Republicans representing districts that were carried by joe biden, people like david in arizona, mike garcia, and young kim in california, look lalota, george santos. Remember that guy . Mike lawler, all those pwc up on the screen. Are they gonna vote for jim jordan . A vote for jordan, from any of them, for many republican, but especially from these vulnerablemembers, is a vote for moderate streamersd. Its a proxy vote for donald trump. Donald trump, hey, its a vote for donald trump and matt gaetz, who have both endorsed. And itsnot clear if the Republican Party understand the problem they have. And a Crystal Clear advance example of their total oblivion, earlier today, this is too good, i cantbelieve this, we learned the candidates for speaker were going to have a debate on fox news, on television. Now, keep in mind, fox and the rightwing media ecosystem, is largely responsible for the current state of the Republican Party. They have produced a movement so obsessively focused on trolling and attention that it has no governing vision. Its essentially a media production. A fox news debate for speaker was kind of a perfect idea in that resct, but a terrible idea on the merits. Such a terrible idea, its part of immediate backlash even from within the House Republican caucus. One moderate republican told axios is the height of idiocy. Fox how to delete the Press Release from the website. The Republican Caucus still has the same problems. The same problems they had when they deposed Kevin Mccarthy, when they elected Kevin Mccarthy. The hard right is not going anywhere. The party is still run by donald trump, a uniquely malevolent, dangerous force in American Politics who wants to end the Constitutional Republic as we know it. None of that has been solved. None of it will be solved by speaker jordan or by speaker scalise its ive barra them could get enough votes to earn the gavel. But republicans have to elect someone to run one of the two houses the United States congress and keep government functioning. We just have to wait to see because frankly i have no idea what happens next. Democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland surgeons jim jordan on the House Oversight committee when hes Ranking Member and he joins me now. Jim jordan, right temperament to be Speaker Of The House, congressman . Well, jim jordan is a polemical and pugilistic and combative in committee. We shouldnt kidder selves, because hes not without talent in a certain kind of rhetorical flair. Hes got a tragic flaw, which is that because of his natural authoritarianism, he loves to cover up and apologize for men in power who abused their power to vicious ends and he did that with the sexual abuse or on the Wrestling Team back in ohio, and of course he has devoted his career recently to covering up all of the constitutional crimes and offenses and outrages committed by donald trump. And i dont quite know what that psychological characteristic is the drives him to do that, but he has a real penchant for defending people who take power and abuse it. And its not a good sign. He is not any kind of real budget deficit hawk. He gladly votes for continue resolutions, and so he really is a rightwing authoritarian cultural warrior, who mirrors donald trump in his basic temperament and political commitments. Yeah. I mean the fact that trump, hes been a door endorsed by trump, and we get some new reporting today that back at the original election of speaker, the one went through 15 ballots for Kevin Mccarthy, trump was 20 with the idea of running for himself, that he saw the power of television, i close trump advisor told me, he saw how galvanizing w, how mesmerizing it, was everybody was watching, it right . Thats what Trump Realizes it. Its t biggest reality show in america. He can be the apprentice with him with a big ask gavel. This catches the problem and its not related to jordans appearance on fox, and not related to the motion to dismiss by matt gaetz, and not unrelated to the entire democratic crisis we find ourselves in, which is the incentives for these folks seem wildly misaligned. Well, yeah, its all about ego for the ones to get into office. Theres no political program, no mission for the country. Trump, according to one republican, who spoke to me about it off the record, was actually deeply interested in being speaker, but he was blocked both by Republican Party rules, which say they cant run if you are currently under indictment for a felony that would land you in jail for two years or more. Which is a nice touch, i like that. Hes also barred by Section Three of the 14th Amendment Of The Constitution which says if you have sworn enough to uphold and defend the constitution and violated it by engaging in insurrection or rebellion, you shall never be allowed to hold federal or state office again. The speakership, although its confined amend rears of congress, is nonetheless the federal office. I think you would be barred from. But the problem is exactly what you were saying, chris, which is that, look, what do you have in Congress Today . Weve got 212 democrats who are unified, focused, and weve got a program for the country, and then youve got an extreme maga wing which matt gaetz exemplifies, which is literally taking orders on the phone from donald trump, like shut down government, shut down my prosecutions, and weve got 185, hundred 90 rightwing republicans, many of whom call them selves maga but they basically are willing to do whatever the mega terrorist wing, as you put it, is demanding, and so theyre willing to go with it. But theyre still about a dozen moderate Critical Thinking republicans left, and those are the people that we are desperately trying to reach out to to say, can you support hakeem jeffries, who is a principled, effective, efficient leader, for speaker . And we will put the house and the country back on a firm course. And if they cant do that i dont know maybe we can talk about liz cheney, we can talk about some other people who would be republicans that they cant bring themselves to vote for democrats. But we know that theyre around a dozen republicans who are appalled by the authoritarian direction of their caucus. Again, i think, to me, the disqualifying vote, although Kevin Mccarthy took the same oath vote as Steve Scalise, is that vote on january six. To be in that chamber, to watch what happened, to watch what the president did, and everyone was there, you guys were all there. The cops getting their heads bashed, in the president painting a target on his Vice President , not sending the crowd home, to be taken to safety and then come back into that building that had been so desecrated and rampaged and vote for the coup, as a majority of those members did. That, to me, is a disqualifying vote, to be Speaker Of The House. Thats what was so astounding about mccarthy. He literally placed a call to donald trump from his office, which was being besieged and ransacked, begging him to call off the mob, and Everybody Knows trumps response was, well maybe they just care a little bit more about a Fair Election than you do, kevin. And yet, even though he knew to call donald trump, who was the mastermind of the whole thing, to call it a, the could not bring himself to join liz cheney, who was the number three person in the republican hierarchy to vote to impeach donald trump, even though he said on the floor that trump was responsible. And then of course his caving into trump only intensified after that. He went down to maralago and Kiss The Ring and after the gavel changed hands he turned over the Security Tapes to fox news so they could continue to promote whatever their Conspiracy Theory detour was. Kevin mccarthy, jim jordan should talk, she plays a call, should 90 Kevin Mccarthy, he placed a call to Jeff Sessions tonight. See how it went, to hitch your wagon to the trump train. See how he ended up at the end. Just make a call. Jamie raskin, congressman from maryland, thank you sir. Thank you, chris. As the congressman just mentioned, there is a way out of this mess. There is a possible solution to the problem. One thing that that very small magnet caucus showed everyone this week is that the very narrow majority, justght members, our pivotal. Eight members brought down their own Speaker Of The House. So italy take five republicans, along with all the unified democrats, to elect a speaker o can make the house run. Someone maybe like minority leader hakeem jeffries. House republicans can vote for whoever they want for speaker. And if they really care about the institution, if they care about not elevating someone who played an active role in an attempt to undo the american experiment, they do have an option. And, as Congressman Raskin said, if Hiking Jeffries is not a starter, then they can bargain. I dont know. Agree that youre gonna vote for a clean cr, take impeachment off the table and democrats support, someone like tom cole of oklahoma . Just throwing it out. Theyre opening bid. In fact, leader jeries laid out that in the Washington Post saying at this point we simply republican partners willing to break with maga extremism, reform the highly partisan house rules are adopted and beginning of this congress and join us and finding Common Ground for the people. Brendan buck served as Press Secretary of speaker john boehner, and has counseled speaker john ryan, Luke Broadwater is congressional reporter for the new york times. They both join me now. Brandon, let me start with you. Lets talk about those 15 members of seoul who were in biden carried district. I dont know if we want to put this graphic up again, if we do. This speaker vote, again, its not the biggest vote in the world, youre gonna vote for jim jordan if your mic lawler . If youre young kim . In a very highly watched thing after donald trump and matt gaetz endorse this guy . What do you think about that vote for those folks . Terrible vote for them. But i think the problem for Steve Scalise, who i think probably count on a lot of those people, is that those arent the people who are necessarily going to stand in the way of jordan. If thats what the rest of their colleagues twos. This is a