Of you from Msnbc Roe Headquarters here in new york. Welcome everyone to alex witt reports. We are beginning with this Breaking News. Hundreds on capitol hill as the federal government heads towards a, potential, shut down in just 12 hours. Soon the house will vote on speaker Kevin Mccarthys new plan to keep Government Open. We see those votes being cast, in fact, as we speak. However, mccarthy is leaning on democrats to support it admitting that there is no guarantee that his own caucus would do it. The house is going to actually government will not shut down. We will put a clean Funding Stopgap on the florida keep Government Open for 45 days did you get any assurances from any of the republicans about this . No, i have tried. Well, a senate vote is also expected to get underway in the next hour. The impact of a potential shutdown will be felt foreign right across nonessential federal agcies. For almost 4 million employees and military, it would mean working without pay. Here is part of a report of nbc s tom costello. For the Border Patrol to the postcard to the Food Inspectors to the nation airports yet another Government Shutdown will hit the very people who keep the country safe. Including 50,000 tsa officers who ensure planes are safe to fly. 10,500 air Traffic Controllers. On the hill for that lets go right to nbcs Julie Tsirkin, joining us from capitol hill, of course. This vote is underway. We are trying to read the notes that we get through the screen provided to us by television. We were seeing something about a vote adjourning. Do you know what is happening right now behind you . This is what is happening on the house floor right now. Democrats have asked for a motion to adjourn. They are taking that vote now. It is because they need more time to read the bill. Read the bill that was just dropped the Republican Leadership which would extend the government funding past the deadline tonight for 45 days. It would include disaster relief, nothing for ukraine, nothing for the border included including the conservative border issues a 45 hardliners voted down yesterday. Democrats are trying to figure out the next step. Here this 45day cer bill will need two thirds majority to pass. That means, as mccarthy has a knowledge, they will need democrats to support it in order to pass it to avert a Government Shutdown. Again, the senate will, of course, need to pick it up and pass, it as well. Democrats are having interest issues right now. In the words of drake, the rapper, they dont know if they can believe republicans here because theyve changed plans so many times at the 11th hour, trying to get the most conservative republican bill to the finish line, which they were unable to do for a third time yesterday, as well. The bottom line here is is going to be very hard for democrats to vote against this bill to keep the Government Open. Even though they must have some hard feelings or they might have some hard feelings toward republicans were getting to him to this place in the first place. The problem is, if democrats vote with republicans that threatens mccarthys speakership gavel he talked about that last hour. Elsa spoke of congressman matt gaetz about it. Watch. Ressman matt gaetz about it i do not believe that the American Public should be public. I want to keep Government Open while we finish our job to secure the border. We are gonna do now, because the senate cannot act in time, the government would shut down, the house is going to act for the government will not shut down. We will put a clean Funding Stopgap on the floor to keep Government Open 45 days for the house and senate to get their work done. Why are we gonna stick to your view on this . I think we have to break the fever dream of governing by continuing resolution. That is why we are 33 Trillion Dollars in debt, facing 2. 2 Trillion Dollar annual deficits. Gaetz had told me that here going to huddle with his members about that motion that he has threatened. Which could commence minister day, especially as democrats do you have enough votes to make that continuing resolution pass. All of this republicans are trying to get done before the senate comes in. You saw on your screen earlier that they just open the floor. They are huddling on the other side of this chamber to try to find their path forward at this moment everyone is waiting to see what the house does. Conventional wisdom wise, a couple of questions. First of all, our democrats huddling to decide if they crossed the line in joint Speaking Recovery . You know they are none too pleased for having been put in this precarious position to begin with. On the flip side, with mccarthy, you mentioned it. What is the likelihood that matt gaetz, from whom we heard, and others, will also be huddling today to decide, are we gonna try to propose a vote . We are getting at this corrode for the speakership . Alex, give me one second. Mister speaker . Well the clean sea are passed on the floor . I am determined. Here is an opportunity. It will only fail if democrats vote against a. This is an opportunity to make sure our troops get paid while we finish our jobs. The house has done 70 of all the appropriation dollar figures. The senate has done nothing. The senate cannot move a bill in time for Government Shutdown. I cannot look the troops in the eye, have them worry that here they are defending our freedoms, and whether they can pay their car loan under house payment. Lets keep things open while we finished where we have to get done. How speaker, what is you say to democrats who say that this is rush, that they need more time to read this bill . Are you willing to give them a couple of hours . How is it rushed . Its just a basic cpr. Theyre making things up. Theres only goes 45 days. It has nothing to do with anything else. The only thing that it added into it, it helps the faa. The white house was claiming the faa problem. Again, the house has passed an fa bill, the senate has not. We are trying to solve a lot of problems at the senate has failed on here. We added the Disaster Money for the people in why in florida and california. They were devastated, we asked for this. All we would do is keep the government funded as it is. Make sure the faa can go forward. Make sure the troops get paid. The border returns are getting paid. Lets finish our work this preserve the Spending Levels . I tried to make sure. A try to pass you brought up to see. Are u. S. Questions, you need to let me answer, okay . Mister speaker no no, she asked a question. That means in her question. I tried every different way. You watched me day, after day, after week, a try to pass the most conservative funding bill to keep this going to secure the border. That did not get enough votes. Here we are, hours away from a Government Shutdown. All im saying here is give the office the opportunity to keep the Government Open for fridays as the senate has not on their work. We finish doing our work so we can secure the border. If the Border Agents are paid and we are having all of this russian, what would next month look like . I dont want to do the. What would our military look . Like the secretary of transportation was complaining about the faa. Here we protect the faa because the sun do not do their job but the house did. What we are able to do is keep it funded, keep our work going. I have made sure that the house stays in session. People are not going home. People need to finish doing their work. Hopefully, the senate will start there. We will be able to move forward. What do you say to Bottom Liners who say that this preserves the status quo of spending under pelosi . Its 45 days. What happens here during this Government Shutdown is those things keep going, as well. We are trying to make sure that we get good bills passed, finish doing our job, and we win overall. To be able to secure the border at the end of the day, he cant quit. The one thing you know about me, sometimes there are obstacles. Dont lose sight of where the objective is. Find your way around the obstacles. I dont think the American Public should be punished here, but, if i want to be the adult in the room of the democrats won a vote no and shut the aurora down, and then that is on them. I dont understand. What has the president and to try to keep this Government Open . Are they lobbying against this bill . That is what im hearing. What could they oppose anna . We provided them i wanted to pass the most Conservative Bill where we cut money, secure the border. You know what . We dont have a republican to help us do that. Here we are hours away trying to keep the Government Open and try to keep the work going to secure the border and cut the way for spending. Are you worried about losing your job given the fact that youre bringing this to the floor . Think about that for one moment. I am never in fear of that. If i lose my job over looking out for the American Public, for taking a stance for our troops and our Border Agents, im not quite sure what people want. This allows us the time to get the job done. Why should they be punished because the senate did nothing . I mean, seriously think about that question. If someone wants to remove me for putting americans first, so be. Should americans expect a shutdown . Alex, you obviously heard from Speaker Mccarthy there when he was walking off. He turned back to me and said no if i asked if americans should expect a Government Shutdown. Obviously, he is fired up about this. He tried to book in the curve the bill on the floor multiple times yesterday. It was the third time that had failed with those Border Security provisions. Now he is back with a clean cpr he confirmed to me there. Some democrats have been saying that this may cut spending because i havent had a chance to read the bill. This confirms that it will continue, essentially, the status quo of the Spending Levels that we have seen last year. The Spending Levels of hardline conservatives have argued against because they say that those were put in place by the speaker schumer, by pelosi when she was speaker. You heard there, this is lastditch effort to keep the Government Open. We will see if it works. Yeah, we will see. You certainly see him taking a line in the stand now. This is a perfect setup right now because weve heard the speaker invoking the senate many, many, times. Saying it was their fault. I think that was seven or eight times he blamed the senate for that. Lets bring in right now senator Michael Bennet. Democrat from colorado. Sir, im sure you heard Speaker Mccarthy there in that live interview at we caught him coming out of the chamber with the chairman of the vote. Ball is in your core. He is accusing the senate of not doing its job. How do you want to respond to that . I dont know what he is talking about. We pass to see our with almost 80 votes in the senate days ago. We have been sitting here waiting for the House Of Representatives to act on that c r, which funded our government, as well as extended funding for ukraine. It extended funding for the natural disasters, including why. Here we are on a saturday afternoon after he has tried everything i think he can try, i guess, to satisfy the extremist of his party. Now he is coming and begging democrats in the house to help keep the Government Open. I mean, hes blaming the senate. I wish i was on fox news. Anybody who has watched what has been going on the past few days knows that the senate did its job in a bipartisan way. I dont know what youre talking about. I have no idea what hes talking about. Trying to shift the blame, it would seem, sir. Let me ask you about the democrats, crossing the line to work without republicans to get something passed the ceo for 45 days . Are you hearing anything about that from your colleagues in the house . Look, the bill just came out. The last thing im gonna do, i havent read the bill. Im not in the house. The House Democrats, members of the, house they ought to have a chance to read the bill. Ill be interested to hear what they have to say. We sorry go ahead, alex,. A bill like that, when he described it, again, this is the House Speaker describing it as merely a simple bill. Just extending the time and allow money to Fund Disaster relief in the interim, should something occur, is that something that is going to be super lengthy . What would your experience be with . That would be a couple pages ago . Over 25 pages . Im sure its super lengthy. Everything around here is super lengthy. I dont have any idea whether the money for ukraine, for example, is in the bill. It sounds to me like it is not in the bill. One thing i would worry a lot about is if we come back here 45 days and there is no way to get the right wing extremists in his party to support the continued funding for ukraine. The whole world is watching this. Vladimir putin is watching this. All of our allies in europe in asia are watching this. Xi jinping is watching this. These guys cant even do the basic work of governing. This is the guy who took 15 votes, something like, that to promise his most extreme parts of his party. Now he has gone through that nonsense, again. Here we are. I dont know. We will see what the democrats in the house to side. We, obviously, want to keep the house open, alex. We want to Fund Disasters. We want to fund ukraine. We want to behave in a responsible way without all of this chaos. You look at the party here that cannot pull itself together enough to be able to stand with the brave people of ukraine and zelenskyy, their president. We have had a, in the senate, a guy, tommy tougher ville, who has made it impossible for us to just come Firm Appointments to the department of defense, promotions of the department of defense, because of his rightwing extreme agenda. In both cases what they have done they have brought our government, our exercise in self government, to its knees. I hope that the American People hoped that when they put donald trump out that the chaos that came with donald trump would be a thing of the past. For a while it was. Under this president we passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill. The best the bipartisan chips act. We pass the most significant climate legislation in American History and kept drug prices for seniors. Together, mostly, with democrats and republicans working together. Now they just cant avoid fumbling the football. They cant avoid the kind of chaos that the American People or so sick and tired of. Putin wins, shesing paying wins, no one here winds as a result of what they are doing. Let me ask you, senator, about the talks of the Border Security in the stopgap bill which appeared to have failed to produce something that both sides can agree on i know sir that you were a member of a gang of eight that helped create this bipartisan comprehensive Immigration Proposal back in 2013. Migratio do you see room for compromise on Border Security that might help and this impasse on that front . I think that you cannot, quorum for, fix the border in a ten minute conversation on the house floor when you have a Shutdown Bearing down on us. That is just ludicrous. Yes, i do think that there is a path forward for the United States of america. I am deeply dissatisfied that the Obama Administration didnt solve this. That the Trump Administration didnt solve this, and the Biden Administration has not solved this. We cannot sustain a situation where we have a criminal syndicate organizing people from all over the planet to come to our border, 10,000 15,000 people a day, and expect that to be sustained for a long. That wont work. The gang of a bill in 2013, there are still elements there halfway to citizenship for 11 Million People. The most progressive dream act. Over 40 Billion Dollars for Border Security. A rationalization of our visa process and our asylum process. We have to have i wouldnt even call to compromise, but just a path forward for this country that honors our traditions as a nation of immigrants that is committed to the rule of law. I think that we can do that. But it wont be done as