Kevin mccarthys attempts to fund the government just got a whole lot more complicated. Then, hollywood writers reach a tentative deal with studios, well break down whats in the agreement, and what happens next, as the 11th hour gets underway this monday night. Good evening once again, im stephanie ruhle, were following developments in the multiple criminal cases against donald the champ. A judge has granted Fulton County d. A. Fani williss request to keep jurors identity secrets in any upcoming trial, Involving Trump and his 18 codefendants. This decision comes as we see new reporting from the New York Times about the rise in threats and intimidation as trumps criminal cases are moving forward. Earlier this evening, january six hearing witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, spoke to our own rachel maddow, about what attacks, about the attacks that come from donald trump himself. This year has helped me opened my eyes to the dangers of trump actually poses on people in these situations. I am not the only one. He wants to know hes getting a reaction, he thrives when he has an audience. It could be a negative audience, it could be an audience he likes, it could be his base. What he needs to hear people reacting to him. Thats when he knows in his mind that hes been successful to something. We all want the republic to survive, we all should want the republic to survive. But, in the way the mr. Trump trajectory is going, im not confident that he will have it survive. Meanwhile, were also following the latest in the Corruption Case involving new jersey senator jarman and this. His wife and three other individuals, new jerseys governor and several democrats in congress have already called on the senator to resign from his post. This evening, former House Speaker nancy pelosi spoke to my colleague jen psaki about this very subject. Charges are formidable, and if in fact were going to say that youre indicted, you should resign, we have a situation in the house as you know from the state of new york that that would hold two. But, right now, sadly because of the challenges that we face, because of skepticism that exists in our country about governance and about the Republican Party doesnt believe in governance, doesnt believe in science, wants to take down everything in order to give tax breaks to the wealthiest. We have to stay focused on that and for that reason itll probably be a good idea. This morning, the senator spoke out publicly for the First Time Since the charges were filed, and my colleague Jonathan Dean has more. Senator a defiant senator walked in to face a crush of cameras, as an accused criminal. When all the facts are presented, not only will i be exonerated, but i will be new jersey senior senator. Slamming prosecutors case. The allegations leveled against me are just that. Allegations. Allegations of an illegal bribery scheme, according to the indictment, new jersey democrat and his wife took gold bars, a mercedes, and piles of cash to help three new jersey businessman and the egyptian government. Menendez explaining how a half Million Dollars in cash bounced up in his Jacket Pocket and elsewhere around this home this way. For 30 years, i have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash for my personal savings account. I have kept these for emergencies, and because of the history of my family Facing Confiscation in cuba. John fetterman posting in response, we have an extra flashlight for our home urgencies. Mendez made no mention of the gold bars or the mercedes. The indictment says the couple also accepted bribes, and as for allegations, he passed Sensitive Information to the egyptian government. I am clear and consistent Holding Egypt accountable. So far, President Biden has not commented on that case. Senator menendez and his codefendants are set to appear in court in new jersey on wednesday. With that, and we have a lot to get to, lets get smart with the panel this evening. Luke joins us, for New York Times, former federal prosecutor renata and susan, staff writer for the new yorker, coauthor of your husband who i think youre familiar with, peter baker, they wrote the divider. Susan, and we should also introduce susan as theos mom. All of our favorite guest on the 11th hour. Susan help, us out. What do you think of the comments today from Cassidy Hutchinson about the dangers donald trump poses, extraordinary to speak from her heart so bravely with rachel . You know, its striking how many people in the end have fallen out with donald trump who worked for him. The testimony was always coming from inside the room. This is a particularly dramatic example of that, because she was there at key moments as trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election unfolded. But, i am struck by what a longstanding pattern this is. You can just listed a. Half the people running in the republican primaries worked for or with trump and broken with him, chris christie, the number of people who have provided damning accounts of trump have worked so closely with him. So, itll be interesting to see what reception her charges get. There is some really juicy tidbits in that book, by the way. Theyre sure are. Susan, i want to talk about something more grave, something that almost tracks with mob like behaviors, and they want to talk about this New York Times reporting, because one, professor proquoted when he talks about these threats their link to trumps indictments coming from trumps world, causing the most important drivers of Political Violence we have in america. We keep hearing about these warnings, but are people listening, are they taking it seriously that people tied to these indictments are getting serious threats . I think its an important question, because it strikes me that donald trump is a sort of desensitized all of us to his incredibly inflammatory rhetoric. Just the other day, he wrote that the chairman that joint Chief Of Staff should face death in capital letters, dea t h, death, because he committed treason according to trump of basically disagreeing with donald trump. This is incredible stuff. Yet, its not a front page headline when trump says hes incredible things when he incited his followers to arc in a violent way. It strikes me that its one of those things were after some tragic incident, were going to look back and say, well of course it shouldnt have been a surprise. Of course, mark milley did not commit treason in any way, shape, or form. Renato, lets talk about this order in georgia. For their safety, the jurors names and identities are going to be kept secret. What do we need to know . First of all, i think its an important point. It not only protects the identifying information, it even says, for example, the judge orders that no sketch can be done. Those Courtroom Sketches can have Identity Features of the jurors. In some jurisdictions, here are the judges making sure hes answering that order, because of course we have circumstance where at least one special grand jury became quite a Media Celebrity for a period of time. I think the concern here is regarding the safety of the jurors. You can have a situation where in the middle of a trial, for example, jurors are receiving third scared that if they render a verdict thats true and accurate of judges instructions, that they can face potential downside for themselves or their family. So, obviously the integrity and proceeding. So, its a serious matter. There are rots on jurors that does happen, judges, in fact in my own hometown we had a federal judge whose family was attacked. These are serious matters, and i think its understandable that the judge is doing what he can to protect the integrity. I need you to explain this one as well, because its complicated and important. This one is down in florida with judge cannon. She could end up making a decision about the Defense Lawyers for trumps codefendants in the maralago documents case. Can you explain what is happening there, and what it would mean to donald trump and the timing of these cases . Sure. So, this is for example the walt nada has a lawyer who have trump, that same lawyer actually used to represent some of the witnesses against trump like the i. T. Guy, for example, who was asked to delete video surveillance. That witness will be important for the governments. Essentially, what the government is saying here, with jack smith is saying, his and his team. He saying that this lawyer is going to cross examine his former client if he has to continue to represent waft nada. As you can imagine, the prosecution does not want a situation where they have to try this twice. They get a conviction against nauta, and then he claims that his lawyer was because he was too afraid of cross examining former client. This is one where the judge would be well advised to not have representing walt nauta. Nonetheless, i wouldnt be surprised if judge cannon just admonishes him about the potential, thats ultimately, there could be a potential to by his lawyer, hes not getting accurate presentation, of course he has a lawyer thats not going to make sure hes aware of the potential maybe he was interested in cooperating against trump either. Ultimately, at the end of the day, i dont expect judge cannon to do anything thats going to open up the door for a new lawyer here for donald trump. Lets say she says, no, were have to clean the slate, these guys need new lawyers. Wont that push back the dates . Wont that delay this trial even more, which is what donald trump actually wants more than anything, ronaldo. Thats possible, but i think having a lawyer whos truly independent will be an issue as well. Obviously, just because a different lawyer selected doesnt mean it could be a lower paid for by donald trump but, nonetheless, i think that at this point in time, trump world doesnt have a lot of spiritual criminal Defense Lawyers who are available and ready to go down to florida. Remember, whatnot took a while to figure out who would be represented by inperson. A lot of lawyers out there want to be sure they are paid up front and in full. Rudys lawyer is demanding his money. Luke, lets go back to these threats, because lawmakers are also seeing an increase in threats on them. What is the climate like on the hill as these cases against trump are ramping up . The threats dont just affect the judicial system. Obviously, if you look starting in georgia, you have the names and identities and social media profiles and pictures being posted on these rightwing websites. So, the judge did not want that of course to happen again with the actual jury. Its not limited there. Look at the courthouse in d. C. Where the judge is not accompanied by the marshals, or some of the federal prosecutors are now under Marshals Protection who are sick of being on the wrong side of donald trump. But, on the hill as well, for the last two years are very much higher than they were, over the past five or six years, threats have gone up ten full, thats on an exaggeration, weve crunch that number. Obviously, the biggest thing was when donald trump had a mob that stormed the capitol in january 6th. So, we have seen the direct outcome of what is rhetoric can cause, and what it evokes in people, the anger against lawmakers. So, theyre very much aware of it. The capitals often on edge, and the eye must hear there has not improved. Susan, Donald Trumps jam has always seemed to seek revenge, but you mentioned a moment ago that he threatened, inwards, mark milley with death over the weekend. If donald trump were to be elected again, what would his administration look like . I can imagine there be mark milleys or jim addisons, it would have to be a group of people who put their Loyalty Pledge to donald trump over anything else. I think thats an important point, its very likely that trumps second term would not be a repeat of the first, but would be an effort by trump to do and get through many of the things he try and could not do because he was constrained in some way in the first term. For those, we thought there was plenty of chaos in turmoil, and unsettling things in the first term. I guess i would say, well, theres a lot more that trump wanted to do that he was not able to. I think, in particular, you look at some of the efforts by those surrounding trump to focus on how to more systematically go after what they called the deep state, and to, for example, remove Civil Service employees in the federal government to turn those into politicized positions, thats one example that you know the groundwork is being done for that. I think some of the Loyalty Tests that were undertaken by Trumps White House in the final few months in office. Including Firing Defense Secretary immediately after trump lost the election, installing an acting defense secretary, ordering him to make abrupt changes in the u. S. Military process overseas. Its that kind of disruption that would be very likely to follow a second trump term. You have got to wonder how modern republicans feel about that. Knowing what could be coming ahead. Look, give us the reaction on the hill to the latest in the bob menendez indictment. We carried it just a moment ago. Nancy pelosis comments. Those were the most recents we heard from lawmakers. Yes, well, Nancy Pelosis an extremely influential voice. I expected to want to continue seeing more and more democrats call for bob menendez to resign. Its really a worstcase to mario for senate democrats. Theyre already having a really tough time trying to hold the senate as it is. And having a sitting senator with an indictment like this hanging over his head, in an Election Year is exactly what the republicans want. It would be much better off for them to let it go if he were to step down. The governor to appoint someone. Then that person couldve the powers of incumbency going into the election. So if menendez insist on staying in office, which it sounds like he will. It sounds like he is dug in here. Then the primary i think will try to take him out with the primary. All right, look broadwater, susan glasser. Thank you all for starting us off tonight. When we come back to the former president is breaking with Kevin Mccarthy and pushing republicans to actually shut down the government. Saying, americans will blame biden. Were gonna talk to matthew dowd, and jason johnson. About the fast approaching deadline. And what it could mean for everyone. And, later, their shutdown may be coming to an end. Rioters reached a Tentative Dealo end the strike after nearly 150 long days not working. When some shows could be back online and whats next for the actress whose are still out on strike. The 11th hour just getting underway on a very busy monday night. Monday night. R new car . You dont have to take it to the dealer. Bring it to safelite. We do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. Customer thank you so much. Tech vo schedule now. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace new projects means new project managers. You need to hire. I need indeed. Indeed you do. 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Wow in less than one week until the governor runs out of money, its serious crunch time for speaker Kevin Mccarthy and house republicans. But donald trump . Hes actually working against them calling for his own party to push that down unless they, quote, get everything. I want to bring in msnbc political analyst, matthew dowd. An msnbc political contributor jason johnson. All, right matthew, what do you think of donald trump not just getting involved. And when he says, you better get everything, do you think he actually knows what everything even means . Because i heard him talk about election interference, which actually has nothing to do with this. Well i think he knows what everything means in regards for himself. So, if everything means something for himself, he knows what that is. Everything as regards to the country, i dont think he has any idea what the country is good for the country. Because if he did he wouldnt be advocating for a shutdown in the midst of this. This to me is such a perfect example of the difference, obviously, but in the Republican Party today in the Democratic Party today. You may disagree with the democrats, but at least theyre trying to practice some rational form of governance and involve confidence involving in leadership. Republicans have no desire. Its all performance art. Its all some satisfying, some grievance, especially if its a grievance launched by donald trump. So thats where we are today. Donald trump is not running a president ial Campaign Based upon his ability to govern the country in the best possible way, or being compete