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Pushed to make his case federal . Then, thousands of escape burning man after being trapped by rain and mud and escapee shares his midnight hike and how he got out. As the 11th hour gets underway on this tuesday night. Good evening, once again, im stephanie ruhle, live from Msnbc Headquarters at 30 rock. Late today, a federal judge handed down the most severe punishment for any of the more than 1000 people charged in connection with the attack on the capital. 39 year old enrique tarrio, faith onetime leader of the farright group, the proud boys, was sentenced to a total of 22 years behind bars. Feds say he played a key role in orchestrating the insurrection, even though he wasnt even in d. C. On that day. But on the eve of january 6th, tarrio tory it was currently missing the founder of the oath keepers militia. He was found guilty of seditious conspiracy, and he was sentenced to 18 years in prison. The push online. Just make sure my guys are okay. Tomorrow. Ive got a lot of stuff to do tomorrow. Nbcs ken dilanian has more on tarrios sentencing. What are we here for . Stop the steal tonight, a central figure in the attack on the u. S. Capitol has been handed the stiffest person sentenced so far. Well not physically present during the january 6th riot, he directed others and support after, wouldnt saying in a text message, make no mistake we did this. Prosecutors had sought 33 years for tarrio, but judge Timothy Kelly it does love it that was too long. Kelly also sentenced for other purposes last week to lengthy prison terms. But far less than prosecutors had asked for. Some of them is seen here at the capitol. American citizens are storming the capital, taking it back right now. There is millions of people here. This is crazy. Tarrio and three other proud boys were convicted and may of seditious conspiracy. Prosecutors said their goal was to orchestrate violence to keep thenpresident trump in office. And the proud boys were behind every major breach of the capitol during the attack. Afterwards on cnn, tarrio ridiculed Members Of Congress who huddled and fear as rioters breached the building. Im not going to cry about a group of people who dont give a crap about their constituents. But a different tone in court today. To the judge, i am not a political zealot and saying to the men and women of Law Enforcement who entered the call today, im sorry. Were also following the latest in the Georgia Election interference case. All 19 defendants have now pleaded not guilty to racketeering charges, and have waved their right to appear at tomorrows arraignment in atlanta, georgia. Meanwhile, politico is reporting some of trumps Georgia Codefendants are signaling theyre likely going to blimp the former president , while claiming they acted at his discretion direction. Its no question that this was done for him, and at his behest. There would have been no reason to do it for him, without his being involved. Nobody wants to be at a trial with donald trump as a defendant. We are getting closer to people getting, ensuring their way toward that trajectory from a distance themselves from donald trump to actually be a cooperator for the government. With that, lets get smarter with the help of our panel tonight. My dear friend jeff bennett is here, coanchor of pbs news hour. And pbs is chief washington correspondent. And katie benner joins us. Pulitzer prizewinning reporter for the new york times. And former fbi special agents clint watts. Hes also a consultant at the fbis Counter Terrorism division. And an Msnbc National Security analyst. Katie, lets start with this major victory for the doj. 22 years for enrique tarrio. No relation to danny tarrio, from a host of dense fever. This is major. This is a big deal. The Justice Department asked for the country iris. And all these so the conspiracy cases, the judge decided the sentencing should be less than what the department as for. Hes done across the board. Even so, this is the longest sentencing with seen. It does two things. It sends every struck message that these crimes are taken seriously by the Justice Department. Three important, especially as we go into another election cycle. Whether it could be political unrest or protest. The other thing it does, it really shows the Justice Department is able to prove that somebody can responsible for a crime, can responsible for getting a crime even if the person is not solely at the scene of the crime or is currently involved in some of the activities that conspiracy entails. As we go into some of these other cases, particularly the january 6th case, donald trump is gonna be interested to see whether or not a jury can be convinced of something about. Again clint, what do you think about that very point . Tarrio wasnt it january 6th and is present this Measure Sentence for help inspire and organize it. What could that mean for donald trump . Many think he inspire it, directed it. Yes, stephanie. Its going to be a word conundrum. Because when all roads start leading back to one or two individuals, and the question weve always, whats the connection to the white house. So much the organized as part of this. As you move up the letter, especially in a rico or conspiracy type case, usually the punishment and suffering of all these things gets much more intense. I think thats what we are today. With tarrio. The other part, you know, with tarrio, yes. He wasnt there the day. But those Text Messages are just so incriminating. The ones who showed their yep. Terrorism, what is it . It is violence or the threat of violence in pursuit of political change. They filmed themselves committing a federal crime for everyone to see. So all of this evidence has been out there in the open. And i just wonder what other evidence is out there that could be in the open as well. Meaning that we have not seen a lot in terms of connections to the white house. It would seem that just looking at a lot of touches coming down towards the former president and staff, there is a lot of evidence starting to surface. I do think those grand jury are handing at those and documents, there must be something there that they would go that far in all of the charges. Yes, they did it and they recorder themselves because they believed if they got in trouble, donald trump would pardon them. Geoff, he didnt pardon them then. Because remember, after january 6th, he hit a couple of weeks, he could have but didnt. What makes any of these people think that if he is reelected hell pardon them now . It is a great question. And look, there are some 1100 people who have been brought to justice by the Justice Department in this case. Enrique tarrio with the longest sentence, some for the two years. And part of the reason is why, if you look at the georgia case, Donald Trumps 18 codefendants, many of them now looking to sit for their cases from his. Because they dont want their fates intertwined with his. Katie, 22 years as a long time. You said it a moment, ago the doj wanted 30 years. What has been the judges rationale for given lighter sentences, and why would tarrio get 22 years and Stewart Rhodes only 18 . Rhodes was there . Roach was there, but when you look at what happened with the prime, plus it was really clear they were in every once this again and again they were the tip of the spear. They actually broke the violence wide open. And they help to penetrate key parts of the capitol that day. You could argue they were the reason why so many people were able to breach the capitol in such violent fashion, clearly they were doing so with emission. Its one of the reasons why the proud boys in general, whether actions are consistent so grave, and why enrique tarrio, as the leader, his crimes were taken extremely seriously and he might get a lauren plans to hit roads. In terms of what is worth has done, one of the reasons hes fun to go for the full recommendation of hes talked about whether or not these people had intent to commit specific violent crimes, or whether they wanted to kill people. He didnt say that. So hes the hunted to bring some of these senses down. That, said more than a decade. More than two decades. These are very serious sentences. These are people who are middle aged. In their 40s. They are going to spin really the rest of their present of life in prison. So its true, these sentences are lower than what the Justice Department recommended, but there are still really serious. Again, i just said it to geoff. Many of them think donald trump will save. Tim clint, i want to share what one say to alex jones over the last few days. Watch this. I know hell pardon. The thing is, hopefully getting them, for him to be able to get into the position where he can at least be i think on the ballot to run, right, because you have one Runner Remaining but i do believe that Donald J Trump will pardon us, but he should. We didnt do anything. Same question i just asked geoff, clint . What they believe don trump will pardon them now. He didnt do that january 7th, eighth, ninth, tenth, 11th, or 12th just a few years ago. I dont know why theyre thinking that, or anyone might get a pardon down the road depending on the art come of three or four different Election Processes and the president showing pick up an office, having 1100 people to choose from. Im just not sure of the situation will unfold the way those gentlemen or thinking it will. But i think it speaks to how they just didnt understand the severity of what they were doing. And they still dont. Well some of the very much played for lighter sentences in the courtroom, when they leave, their tune changes. I think if we look at some of the charges, some of the actual sign of sentiments happen in recent days. It has been up to 22 years. Some of these individuals committed other crimes in places in the past. They have a record in many cases. Im sure influenced the touch as well, in terms of what was going on. And when you listen to all the public statements in the last two years, they can go to court today, ask for a lighter sentence. But looking at what theyre saying, they pulled out of the courtroom the next day, im sure it is not naive and what a work these individuals are justified in what theyre doing. And we always are going to be worried of Something Like this happening again. There is another soundbite we should never forget from pick in point of the. Donald trump on the debate stage, what he had to say about this a very organization. What this. Are you willing, tonight, to condemn White Supremacists and Militia Groups . Proud boys, stand back and stand by. But ill tell you what. Ill tell you. What somebodys gotta do something about antifa and the lift. Katie, we all knew where they were at the time. We knew there were a risk. We knew they were a threat. We knew what is. Did anyone seriously think the proud boys would take the kind of action, orchestrate the attack that they did . I think that so much of what we saw in terms of the Law Enforcement response before january 6th, to the threat of violence, was and pour a failure of imagination. With all of this in the practice competitions capital before january 6th and incite riots and violence, fighting with other Extremist Groups on the streets of d. C. So it is clear they were willing to engage in violence. I dont think anybody truly imagined there will be the kind of wholesale attack on the capitol we saw the day. Clint how might these sentences impact what jack smith is doing . In terms of the sentences, i think it was really start to speak how unified all the defendants are in a lot of these cases. I just dont know phil be able to keep this sort of coalition going. 19 defendants in georgia. Many other defendants in the other trials that are coming up. I just dont know how to keep that coalition going. When you are watching people who are still saying they were justifying direction, get to the two, 18 year sentences. I just would see. It especially amongst the individuals there. Many employers on all of the plow boys were interested in the legal risks of what they are doing on the day, january 6th. So when you watch how this investigation unfold and the trial coming up, how theyre going to go for the next year . Lets talk about how georgia is unfolding. Geoff, you mentioned a moment ago. Some of his codefendants, people in Donald Trumps inner inner circle. Now theres reporting there could be pointing the finger at him. What can you tell us . Is this how funny will this is going to build her case . Potentially. We could get some clarity tomorrow at one pm, eastern. When the judge hears that case, the Severance Motions from Sydney Powell and kenneth chesebro. Sydney powell is of course the attorney who is implicated in an effort to illegally accessed Voting Machines in a number of states. Kind of case broke had a role in setting up the fake a literal scheme. Both of them, through their attorneys, issued request first pinterest. But now they want to have those trials separate from one another and separate from the other codefendants. It will be interesting to see if they point the finger at don trump in trying to take themselves out of responsibility, as outlined in the indictments. That really was definition of what former white house mark meadows is making in his filing to the court. Hes basically saying his case should be moved from the state court to the Federal Court because he was at Donald Trumps behest, as Chief Of Staff. And everything he was doing, he was doing in the lot of work. Brad raffensperger, the Top Republican Elections Officials in georgia has pushed back on that, saying, there is nothing about that coat suggesting it was in line with his duties as Chief Of Staff. It was a political cult and it was inappropriate. But so far you already have Donald Trumps Chief Of Staff Pointy Thinker at him. So it will be interesting to see, well get some clarity, potentially as early as tomorrow about how many other codefendants might do the same. Well Donald Trumps former trade advisor, peter navarro, is out there saying he cant handle his Mountain Legal bills and hoping, just hope, and somebody covers them. I think hes talking to don trump. Im pretty sure mr. Trump doesnt want to answer. Geoff bennett, katie benner, clint watts, think you for starting us off. 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Joining me now, to a Democratic State representative, tanya miller, former prosecutor, defense attorney, as well as a civil rights attorney. And melissa redmon, director of the Prosecutorial Justice Program at the university of Georgia School of law. Ladies, you are the perfect guests to get us ready for tomorrow. Melissa, what are you expecting tomorrow . Basically the defendants trying to convince judge Mccarthy Mcafee that their cases should be tried separately, that although they both filed for a speedy trial where they both have to be tried for the first week of november, they shouldnt be tried together. I do think thats going to be an Uphill Battle for them. Its only two of them. Theyre not pointing the finger at each other. I think it will be easy for the prosecutors to distinguish which evidence applies to chesebro, and which applies to powell. But basically it will be kind to convince judge mcafee otherwise. The judge wants fani willis to present a good faith estimate on the amount of time this trial is likely going to take. Her last Big Rico Case was eight monthslong. This ones got to be longer than that. I suspect it will be, but again, were going to have to see how this case gets sliced and diced up. I would suspect it by the time this case goes to trial, there probably wont be 19 folks sitting in that same courtroom together being tried. I suspect that there will be people who may decide to take a plea deal in exchange for testimony, and of course you have individuals, two individuals who filed speedy trial demands. There are rumors that others will file speedy trial demands, which will require that their cases be tried forth with as we say here. So its hard to really say how long this trial will go, but if the indictment is any indication, if the number of codefendants is an indication, and if history is any indication, we could be in for a pretty long ride. Melissa, if some of them are asking for a speedy trial, i. E. Before trump, is that a signal that they are turning on him . Not necessarily. They do have to act in their own best interests. They have to make that costbenefit analysis based on their own situations, and it could have everything to do with not wanting to be at the table with trump, or it could be that im in the least culpable, its on my own best interest, even if those throws are not agreement to get out of the trial as soon as possible. Chesebro wants to dismiss the rico indictment entirely. Does he have a chance of that, tanya . No. Thats not gonna happen. These are common motions and we see them in almost every rico case where there are multiple defendants tried. Somebody once theyre on trial, somebody wants a speedy trial, someone wants to attack rico. Its important to note that madam d. A. Fani willis in this case consulted with jon floyd, a preeminent rico expert. He was standing next to her at that press conference when she announced the indictment. He literally wrote the book on rico. He knows this case law in and out and hes given this indictment the stamp of approval. That doesnt necessarily mean its not subject to legal challenges, but Police Believe that this indictment has been well vetted by fani willis and her team. This office is experienced with rico, and there is zero chance that the rico count is going to be severed or dismissed in this case. Ironic reminder for our audience, one other person that knows rico inside and out, rudy giuliani. Melissa, let me ask you about mark meadows. He is fighting to get his case moved to Federal Court. What do you think the likelihood is . And what told i think he has an Uphill Battle. I think the judge, its kind of a First Impression issue, because you have a case where the pet the question as to the attorneys as well as the dea is if the court finds that one of his acts was within the course of his official duties, is there enough for removal . Thats the question that we havent seen answered by the courts. So its up to how the attorneys are going to persuade judge jones to answer that question. I think that in most criminal cases we look at totality of the circumstances and looking at his actions as a whole and the motive behind those actions would be to interfere with the election or from political activity, which was not in the course of his duties that would remand demand that the case be remanded back to court. We saw brian kemp tell republican stop talking, nothing is going to happen to fani willis. She should not be criticized. She should not be impeached. She has done everything following the letter of the law. Since he made that very bold statement, anything change . Anything happen . Tanya . Nothing necessarily has changed. I think he has silenced some of the squawking in his party at the state level but listen, we are really in dire straits when we have the leader of the state, the Chief Executive of the state nearly saying that the constitution still Reigns Supreme in the separation of powers and its a real thing. Theres no evidence that Fani Willis Has Run Afoul of the Prosecutor Oversight Bill that he signed into law. Its not yet in effect, that will happen in october. But theres no evidence that anyone can point to that she has done anything wrong. In fact, she has done what prosecutors do across the state day in and day out. So we appreciate the governor stepping up for a law and order, but its kind of what we would expect the governor to do, i would say. All right. Thank you so much for joining with me, State Representative tanya miller, and melissa redmon, think you for joining. 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Com attention, and take a deep breath, because you have got to see what is going on down in texas. It is all about money, power, and politics, and you know thats what we love to cover right here on the 11th hour. Today marks the start of the Impeachment Trial for Texas Attorney general and staunch donald trump ally can paxton. Paxton pleaded not guilty to a total of 20 impeachment articles, including accusations of corruption and abuse of public trust. The reason trial is happening is because his fellow republicans voted for the impeachment. Here is my colleague, laura jarrett, with all the questions. Tonight, battled Attorney General ken paxton from the evidence that youre going to hear is shocking. With viral billing statements running on day one. As it happen in our state in the hundred years. The Conservative Fire Ban suspended after the republican controlled state house voted to impeach him back in may. The state senate now deciding whether he should be permanently removed from office. Paxton has been accused of misusings bowers to hope a local Real Estate Developers in exchange for home renovations. That same developer was helping paxton coverup a secret. Affair the Attorney General pleading not guilty today to 16 articles of impeachment. For gods sakes, what are we doing here . Oh baby. Back with me tonight, tony polanski, and best to get a reporter for the austin americanstatesman. He has been all over this story and covering this man for years. Im so glad youre with us. So for people who do not know paxton, can you give us a repressed or a fresher on his background, because he has heads gangel swirling around him for a long time. The reality is, he still is the defendant in an eight year old Felony State Security Fraud charges and that is a matter separate from the senate is in contending with now the, impeachment articles. In addition to those long pending state security fraud charges, the Impeachment Trial that is now underway, stephanie, we also know that ken paxton is the target of an ongoing fbi investigation. We know through our own reporting that a grand jury in san antonio has been convened in recent weeks and has begun Hearing Evidence in that case. But all eyes are on the senate right now to try to figure out what they will do if they are going to allow ken paxton to continue serving as the states top attorney or whether they are going to push him out of office. And by the way, stephanie, not just push him out of the office, potentially stopping him from ever serving in an elected position in the state of texas again. How is it that he has an eight year old pending felony charges. I cant imagine anyone else out there who has found new charges they cant just sit there for eight years, and during that period of time you keep getting that job again. There has been so much legal wrangling in that case. There have been arguments about venue that have been tied up for years through Hurricane Harvey. Where this case was going to be heard, it is now set to be heard in houston. That is why Hurricane Harvey came into the picture. There was a long delay, and the aftermath of the hurricane, there was, in recent weeks, though, a hearing, the first hearing in many months, if not longer, on those state security fraud charges. I was in the courtroom that day, sitting very near ken paxton who, by the way, came and left through a non public interest. But the judge very much said in that case that it is her intent to get back on track and possibly set up for a trial as early as next year. Lets talk about this state senate where all the eyes are. These Texas Republicans could have made all of this go away by voting for paxtons motion to dismiss this whole thing. But they chose not to. What does that tell you about republicans in this state saying, maybe, enough is enough paxton . The truth is i think its hard to really know exactly what it says. So, for example, we saw a handful of farright, the more ultraconservative state senators, constantly saying no, no, no in terms of making sure this trial did not go forward. But at the same time, though, we saw other republicans very much saying that the trial should go forward and in recent weeks we have seen major republican voices, for example former governor in Energy Secretary rick perry, carl rove, former aide to george w. Bush, writing oped in the wall street journal, not necessarily putting their finger on the scale for whether or not paxton should be found guilty of these charges and formally impeached and removed from office, but at least saying that there seems to be enough credible evidence that it should be pushed before the public and pushed before the senators so that they can have the ultimate say about whether or not paxton should remain in office. But why now . As you said, hes been embroiled in quite a lot of stinky stuff for years. What is it about this particular situation that has made republicans decide were gonna hold him accountable now . Stephanie, as is often the case, its about money. So we know that earlier this year a number of whistleblowers filed a lawsuit against ken paxton, contending that because they went to the fbi and said we believe our boss is committing a number of felony offenses, ken paxton then allegedly fired them because of. That they filed a Whistleblower Lawsuit and in the effort to resolve that lawsuit, ken paxton took a bill to texas lawmakers with three point 3 million and said hey, texas lawmakers, i need you to find this 3. 3 Million Dollar lawsuit settlement. They said wait, if were going to be doing that, we have got to fully and broadly understand what is going on with ken paxton and why we are being asked to foot the bill for his alleged misdeeds. So what happens next, and how does his wife fit into all this . So his wife is a texas state senator. And so there has been a lot of discussion about whether or not she would have a vote in whether or not he should be convicted of these impeachment articles. It is its been decided that she will not vote but that she is constitutionally required to sit in this trial, day after day, potentially week after week, and here all of these allegations against her husband, but also findings of fact by investigators, what they uncovered about her husbands conduct, which, by the way, does also include an alleged mistress who likely will testify during this trial, so yes, his senator wife will be sitting front and center during the course of this trial. Now he might not be, because he left during lunch and might not return. Tony, we will be paying attention. So as this thing unfolds, you better come back soon. Tony plohetski, thanks for joining. Us when we come back, thousands of people were stranded at burning man. Now finally freed from the law of. Weve got some here who braved the elements and hiked six miles to safety. What went down in the desert when the 11th hour continues. T 1he1th hour continues start your day with nature made. 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Tonight the slow crawl on the Remote Desert Festival stretching for miles. Tens of thousands still trying to get out. This is where festival goers finally reach a paved road, but getting here is a lesson in patience. For some, the six mile trip out taking as long as mine hours. And now, questions are mounting over the chaotic mass left behind. The persian County Sheriff slamming the conduct of festival goler gulch, tony San Francisco chronicles, some abandoned their property and vehicles, leaving trash across several miles as they scramble to escape the storm. There have been people that have left things. I think a lot of people had a very fair reaction. Organizers had not responded to nbcs request for comment about the aftermath, but Better Investor Festival Goers like terry gault, staying behind a clean up, are frustrated. We know that people abandon their camps, so its not surprising to hear that there was trash left behind. Whats your message to people who leave things behind . Well, one of the ten principles is leave no trace, so for those people who left trash behind, those are not real burners. They probably shouldnt be out here. This comes as authorities investigate the man at the height of the storm. Authorities say theres no indication it was weather related but that conditions may have slowed the response. While most today are going out by car, some finding ways to avoid the congestion. Yeah it was about 50. Minutes tonight, with have the festival still inside, the Famous Burning Man is gone, but a massive cleanup effort still lies ahead. Okay, boys and girls, you knew he would be here. A man you normally see giving brilliant detailed legal analysis, this week and became a twitter superstar and even more of a National Treasure than he already is, detailing his misadventures in the mud, my dear friend neal katyal. , i dont want to talk law. I want to understand what you are doing at burning man. We know you are a live music enthusiast, but what drove you to the desert . Was it the mad max motif . The art . The live music . The Cuddle Puddles . The psychedelic excellence . Why did you go . Well, ive got to keep you on your toes, stephanie, and basically i do have this philosophy that life is about learning from other people, and i think people should go to hawaii if they can, or go to puerto rico or go to mississippi to learn how other people live in this great country. And burning man is part of it. Obviously, i mean, take a look at, me burning man is not my people. But what i saw was really beautiful and very unlike the characters that we are seeing on tv today, which i think are silly. I saw a lot of sharing, a lot of caring, and i saw our beautiful art and beautiful music, and earn a news or go to the things that make life worth living. Without a doubt. So im really glad i. Wet someone in the world happened out there . So youre there, youre experiencing the magic of burning man, and what happens . You kind of cant conceive of it. I had seen pictures for years, but until you go and see this vast mile upon mile of desert and Art Installations all over the place and they are far from one another and you have to ride your ebike to get for one thing to the next, and in the city of 80,000 people that just pops up and then disappears. Its all unlike anything i have ever seen in my life. And as i say, the community was just incredibly giving and caring. Theres no money. There you have to, you basically all work and give things away like we cooked food and give it away, and thats what others did. They did it with drinks as well. And one thing i would say, though, is its not the kind of depraved thing that i think so many of the images are. I saw very few people drinking. I didnt see drugs. Im sure they were there but this was very different, i think, then the image. And it was a really beautiful dancing and artistic environment. So what happened . The skies open up and then things got very serious very quickly. Yeah. The rain started i think on friday night and and theres no cement or asphalt for miles and miles, so its really just desert floor. And when it gets wet its not like anything i had seen. It really turns into liken alkaline some mountain it sticks to your boots. Even to walk 40 feet was pretty dangerous winds that started happening. So it was clear that traffic was going to be at a standoff still for a number of days. How did you get out . I hiked with a few other people. We put on our boots and what really slowly at midnight when there wasnt rain. It was very slippery. Again, i dont want to be a whoa is me, its not why i tweeted this, i wasnt complaining, i just wanted people to know because a fair number of people do follow me on social media. It was a pretty dangerous hike. I think all the time i was in colorado two weeks ago, but this was very different because it was very slippery and some anti, and i just wanted people to know that because information was hard to come by in the camps. I do have to ask you, what happened to your incredible hat with the really thing on top, the shirt, the medallion, what happened to that . Look incredible. Well, all of it had to be left behind because all i could do was carry was on my back, and i had a friend whos gonna bring all of our trash and my clothes out. But im very fortunate to have designer friends, in one of the most brilliant ones, during summer cartoon crisis made the shirt, the necklace, and how was made by the artist alexei meade, whos also a friend. And i know it looks very silly but no way its kind of like halloween. If you dont wear a costume are out of place. So my view is look, im there, im gonna be this thing. 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Now when i call larry to let him know he was finally receiving this recognition, his response was, i thought you had to do something to receive the Medal Of Honor. Let me say that again, he said i thought you had to do something to receive the Medal Of Honor. Well, you are sure as hell did something, man. Im sure glad you stayed up for the last thing tonight. Mission complete. Today at the white house President Biden presented the retired Army Captain Larry Taylor with the Medal Of Honor, the nations highest military award for valor. For taylor and the man he saved in vietnam, this is been a long time coming. A reporter has an incredible. Story it was the peak of the vietnam war when First Lieutenant larry taylor got a call soldiers in trouble. Minutes later, he was flying his cobra tack helicopter in the dark of night. Sometimes you could fly in your under drawers or shower soufan, but by god you got it off the ground and in two minutes. Nearly 200 north vietnamese troops were closing in on four american soldiers, dave hill was one of them. Totally surrounded. An area about the size of a football field. And nearly out of ammo. Terry in his wing man fired everything they had, but the americans were still pinned down. Over the radio, tailors commander ordered him back to base to resupply. Mike holden saw it unfolding. He told him, im a senior officer, and no youre not, get off my frequency. Im going in and these four men are gonna die. I turned off and went down. What was going through your . Mind for a start of the approach and i thought this is a good idea, and when i got up there into what the hell am i doing. He landed under heavy enemy fire, with no extra seats, the four soldiers clung to the outside of the chopper. So theres no doors, just go over and get the hell on here, so two of them sat on the skin, grab the straight, two of them straddled the rocket pods backwards and flew. Taylor got them all out safely. Did you get in trouble for defying the order . We are gonna, do send me the vietnam . It was 30 years before taylor saw those four soldiers again in a reunion. It was the first time we could personally thank. Him hell started a years long effort to get taylor the military forward. Today the white house that mission was completed. We never lost a man. And we never left anybody behind. For any reason. And yeah, i think im proud of that. I did my job. [applause] nbc news, washington. Medal of honor recipient captain larry taylor takes off the air tonight. And on that beautiful note, i wish you a very good night