arraignment week. ♪ ♪ ♪ all eyes will be split between atlanta and, d.c.. this, week in georgia on wednesday, arraignment day for the 19 defendants and the case led by fulton county d.a. fani willis. trump pleaded not guilty and 11 of his codefendants waived their right to a day in court. meanwhile, key witness and former white house chief of staff mark meadows is waiting to hear if his georgia case will move up to federal court. and the georgia special grand jury report is set to be released on friday. trump, by the way, it is fundraising like crazy off his mugshot. i want to know who are those people who give money to the so-called billionaire so he can cover his legal expenses? oh, and in case you were wondering, a recent wall street journal poll of republicans put trump's support, a stunning 46% higher than the second place ron desantis. and in our nation's capital, congress will begin to return to work in washington on tuesday, with just a few more days until another possible government shutdown. after the congressional black caucus announced black americans are being attacked in various ways nationwide and when -- republicans are leading these efforts. that's where we start today. joining me now is the chair of the black caucus, congressman steve is horsford, democrat of nevada. congressman, mister chairman, the congressional black caucus has announced last week black americans are being attacked in various ways nationwide with republicans leading the effort. we spoke at the state of black america, president of the capital, you spoke in washington, recent events in several gop led state legislatures have intensified your concerns, you said. please elaborate. >> well, reverend sharpton, it is great to be with you. and congratulations to you and to the king family for the continuation march, the 60th anniversary march on washington last saturday. it was definitely the impetus for the work that continues. with your leadership and the leadership of so many other civil rights leaders, we are going to realize doctor king's dream. as you know, the attacks on everything from our democracy to women's rights to make health care decisions about their own bodies, to the attacks on blackness with the latest from ed bloom and his alliance, dealing with the lawsuit against the fearless fund, which is a venture capital fund to support black women entrepreneurs. this is the latest attack attacking black business people who are trying to create wealth for themselves and their families and the black community. despite the fact that only 1% of that funding from venture capital is actually with black businesses and black venture capital firms. and black vso it's very alarmi. these attacks are coordinated, they are well funded, and clearly ed bloom is behind it, and he's been behind the latest lawsuits on affirmative action. he was behind the roe v. wade attacks. we have to call it out the way it is. we have to say who was impeding our progress in this moment. but we are not going back. we are not going to be silenced, and we are going to continue to advance a legislative agenda this congress. >> and as we were marching last saturday, you had the racial killings in jacksonville, florida. you had, as you say, ed bloom, stephen miller is part of that, that has declared war in terms of not only what they want in that supreme court decision in terms of college admissions, but on businesses and law firms, saying you can't have programs specifically to deal with having blacks and people of color elevated or given contracts. and then yesterday, on politicsnation, right here on this show, we had gop presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy. i want you to listen as he answered what i asked him about affirmative action and diversity programs. listen to this. >> i want to make sure kids aren't trapped in the ghetto of a zip code that they happen to be born in. to the contrary, i think every parent deserves to have the opportunity to send their kids to the best possible school. that's why i favor radical school choice in this country. i think it's a mystery, reverend sharpton, there are people who will wax eloquent about systemic racism, they are also the ones who are opposed to educational mobility. that's why i've said, shut down the u.s. department of education. use that 80 billion dollars, put it in the hands of parents, so they can actually send their kids to that best possible school they can. >> i asked you about affirmative action and i asked you about business and bloom and them coming, he pivoted over to talk about charter schools and education, which not only says a lot about how he tries to dunk and weave, and i would not let him do it on the show, but it also shows they are trying to build straw men up rather than deal with the issues. one of the things i've seen the congressional caucus and do under your leadership is trying to focus on exact issues, legislation, and policy. >> well your interview was spot on. i wish the candidate would just really get out of the way because he is the what who is stoking these racial tensions in our country. for him to make comparisons to members of congress, i own congresswoman ayanna pressley and the kkk is outrageous it's irresponsible and it's dangerous. it's the kind of rhetoric that led to the mass shooting in jacksonville, florida, which governor desantis helped stoke with his rhetoric. but as you said, while we fight these attacks on the extreme right, but we also have to put forward an affirmative agenda to help lift up black americans. when we lift up black america, we lift up everyone. as you know, we have the congressional black caucus and a legislative policy conference coming up in washington, d.c., starting september 20th through the 24th. during that conference, we're going to position not only democracy and race, but economic mobility and wealth creation. at a time when black people are under attack, we want to talk about race to advance wages, work, and wealth. with partnerships, with the biden economic alliance, with the work that the national urban league and the national action network are doing under your leadership, we can put forward an affirmative agenda that moves black america forward through jobs, better paying jobs, through small business creation, and through wealth creation for black families and black communities. >> now, this past monday, together with the king family and other civil rights leaders, i want to meet with president biden and vice president harris at the white house, on the day, the actual day of the 60th anniversary of the march on washington. kennedy met with march leaders 60 years ago when president biden and vice president harris -- 60 years later, that tradition. you spoke at the march, of course. i was there, obviously, as the head of the national action network. i called on president biden to hold the next hate summit the summer of hate crimes we did the first one of the white house last summer. let's hold it in in front, after the recent shooting there that killed three innocent blacks, and in fact, today, i heard and saw that there was a rally of neo-nazis in orlando yesterday. king called me and talked about that early this morning. how ready is the black caucus to push on legislation on this matter, of hate crimes and enforcing of hate crimes? >> well, look, the proud boys and groups like them have been named by homeland security as the single biggest threat to domestic security. security. and they are a domestic terrorist organization. you've seen the indictments that have come down, and the latest charges that have been made, as well as the sentencing. but specifically, as it pertains to florida, here you have governor desantis, the same governor who has tried to erode black history, to try to rewrite black history with -- slavery was somehow some kind of a work program that provided benefits to enslaved people. and then he wants to show up at the candlelight vigil for the families and the community that was mourning the very deaths of the individuals because of a racist attack on their community by a white supremacist. the congressional black caucus has been and we -- will continue to fight to make sure that those who are responsible for these attacks, whether it is on our democracy or whether it's on our blackness, are held accountable. we don't care who they are, including the former president of the united states. they must be held accountable. >> all right. i'm going to have to leave it there. i'm out of time. but thank, you and thank you for all you are doing, congressman steven horsford, chair of the congressional black caucus. joining me now is chicago mayor brandon johnson. mister mayor, thank you for being with us. i want to go to another report, released on tuesday by the center for study of hate and extremism, at california state university in san bernardino. it found most of the nations ten largest cities had significant and record-breaking jumps in hate crimes in 2022 for the second straight year, for the second straight year also chicago had the most significant rise in hate crimes over and 84% increase. you were elected mayor of chicago this year. this data is from the previous two years. i want to be sure to also mention that as a summer has come to an end, new data shows chicago murder rates are down by 21% from 2021. however, i want you -- i want to get your reaction to this hate crime data that preceded you by just about a few months, and how concerned are you that chicago is also leading in american cities in dealing with hate crimes, as you seemed are effectively dealing with crime? >> thank, you reverend sharpton, for your leadership and again for having the audacity to lead with so much boldness. we do appreciate that here in chicago. we miss you. >> thank you. >> look, it is clear that the entire country is suffering from this overwhelming divisive presentation that is being propagated by the political forces that clearly have not accepted the results of the civil war. in fact, it is evident that many of these leaders want a rematch. as you know, the history of anti-blackness, particularly in chicago, finds its roots that were planted a very long time ago when reverend martin luther king junior came to the city of chicago. he described it like no other place on the planet. again, unfortunately, because we've had these systems that, quite frankly, have demonstrated anti-blackness over the course of decades, whether it's closing down public schools, whether it's shattering public housing, shutting down mental health clinics, that there's been a practice of systems that have demonstrated hatred and animus towards black existence. d animus but i'm grateful that the multi cultural generational movement that propelled in organizer, a former public school teacher, a middle child of ten some siblings to the fifth floor, a better, stronger, more united chicago is certainly has arrived. as you've indicated, we've been working incredibly hard with a multi tiered, layered approach at the full force of government to invest in people to create a stronger, safer chicago. i'm grateful we have community partners, the civil rights community, the faith community, and of course my administration that's working to ultimately build a better, stronger, and much safer chicago. >> to follow up on that, the recent killing of three black people in jacksonville, florida, has drawn attention to the grim reality that researchers have long gotten to. black americans are the most frequent victims of racially motivated hate crimes in the united states. there is a report that i mention confirms the trend showing black people where the targets of more than one fifth of all hate crimes and that were reported in major american cities last year. the highest year of any other group. chicago is about a third black, according to u.s. census bureau data. what do you think is fueling the rise of violence that targets black americans specifically? and an that, how do you, as a newly elected mayor, major city, an activist as you came in, deal with the potential hate crimes remaining your city, and the black crime that is being perpetrated on each other with violence? you brought it down, but it's still there. you've got a double kind of assignment here that you have to battle out. >> we certainly have a lot of work in front of. us but there's not a challenge that's too big for the city of chicago. quite frankly, for this country. we've overcome challenges before. vicious attacks against black people, just a couple of days ago i declared august 30th chairman fred hampton senior day here in the city of chicago. >> wow. >> you know he was on the frontline fighting for black liberation. he understood that black liberation had a ripple impact on other people groups. it's that same spirit that, quite frankly, that we have revived in the city of chicago to, one, make sure we are partnering with, again, our faith community, our philanthropic community. we have major corporations stepping up along with the full force of government to make critical investments into communities that have long been starved. whether it's the former president, trump, igniting his insurrection and an attack against our democracy or whether it is the fact that for every $1 that a white family earns, a black family earns one sent, these systems of oppression have gone unchecked for a very long time. but again, i'm grateful that we have a new superintendent that will be confirmed, chief larry snelling, who is the proud son of englewood. he's gone up through the ranks for the first time in the history of chicago. we have a deputy mayor devoted to community safety. and again, we have so many individuals around this city, quite frankly around the country, that continue to ask the most dynamic question. what can we do to help? that is what it's going to, take reverend al, in order for us to build a better, stronger, safer america. we need to bring people together. not subject ourselves to the type of visceral hatred that has been promulgated against black folks, asians, our jewish brothers and sisters, the lgbtq+ community. all these different groups that have suffered under tyranny and suffered under disinvestment and hatred that the city of chicago is very much committed to transformation. i'm grateful to be in a position where, one, again, full force of government to deal with community safety. number two, there is a major piece of legislation called treatment, not trauma. it's going to provide mental health professionals to shop the crises where mental health professionals are needed. three, we are also making sure we raise new revenue, bring chicago home to deal with the unhoused crisis here in the city of chicago that is affecting the entire country. these last 112 days, we certainly have not totally disrupted decades of systemic racism and oppression, but we certainly have laid the foundation to build the apparatus to build a better, stronger, and much safer chicago. >> chicago mayor brandon johnson, it's been 112 days, it hasn't put any of the fire has barely out yet. thank you for moving on. coming, up a new school year is underway and it's time to rise up and push against radical right-wing politics in the classroom. but, first my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard? >> thank, you reverend. a very good sunday to you. officials are saying death is being investigated at the burning man festival. the annual music festival in the nevada desert, the persons identity was not released yet. an estimated 70,000 attendees were asked to shelter in place and conserve food and water amid heavy rain and flooding. the convicted murderer who escaped from prison thursday outside philadelphia was spotted. a surveillance camera caught -- saturday, just a mile and a half from the prison. he was convicted in 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classified documents case, the government will begin turning over classified information to the defense on thursday, all the while trump continues to fund-raise off his mugshot. the campaign says he raked in at least nine point $4 million so far. i, mean what do you make of how these cases are shaping out so far and trump's ongoing push to fund-raise off his alleged crimes? >> look, it's getting really hard for me to keep track of all of the cases and all of the procedures in the cases. i think we're gonna find that is true through the rest of this election cycle. it's hard to know how donald trump continues to campaign in this environment. but i'll tell you, that fundraising number is completely reflected in his polling numbers. nothing seems to be able to move republicans off donald trump. and he's using the litigation against him to his political advantage. i don't think that, at the end of the day, is going to work out in the courtroom. it certainly seems to be working for him right now in the political space. >> david, unlike the three other indictments trump is facing, his trial in georgia will be televised and livestreamed because of the states open door media policies. do you think that scares him? up until this point, the more we've -- the most we've been able to see as a public is trump arriving to court houses. how historic will this be to actually see the trial? >> rev, it's always hard to analyze the fragile vanities of donald trump. when he exhibit strength, usually there's a quiet fear. as we, know from some very solid reporting, he hates all of. this he's worried about his personal freedom and personal jeopardy. but does he see it as an opportunity for theater? because we also know that's part of his ethos, to try to control the story and only airwaves, if you will. i think politically the interesting thing is this will be the first time that voters of american culture absorb seeing him stand for trial. we haven't seen that yet. all we've seen thus far the indictments and the criminal charges. it has strengthened his hand in the gop nomination process. i suppose a lot of trial would also strengthen his hand among republican voters, from not so sure among general election voters. i still think is personal jeopardy, particularly live on air, is a handicap for him going against joe biden next november. >> david, trump is still a dominating the polls heading into the fall. some of his republican rivals don't want to go after him for fear of alienating his voters. at the same time, they can't be able to see a path to beating him without attacking him at some point. what is the right answer? how do these gop candidates make an impact on the country under the shadow of trump? >> i don't think they can. i think it is too late. it's too late by their own choices to defend him thus far. the last ten days since the debate have been very clarifying. the moment i think really said everything was when they were asked to raise their hand if he would support a criminally convicted donald trump. pretty much they all did, including ron desantis. rev, it's import -- impossible to say to a republican voter, i, as a candidate, rhonda sanchez, i will vote for donald, trump but i don't think you should. i think you should vote for me. there is no way to do that. he also can't suggest over the last two or three years that donald trump has been a victim of a weaponize government and january six was just a tour. and now change course and say he's not prepared to be president. republicans are too far down this road. i don't think there isn't any argument to beating trump right now. i think he wins the gop nomination wire to wire. >> donna, turning now to president biden. the new york times is reporting the white house has enlisted at least two dozen attorneys, legislative liaisons and others to come up with strategies in the face of republican threats of an impeachment inquiry. will this backfire on republicans? >> well, look, first of all, i don't think there's any there there. republicans are going down this path where they basically are hoping the federal government -- holding the federal government as a hostage, saying we will not fund the government, we will withhold the money at the end of september unless we move forward on this impeachment proceeding. and that way they are unabashed in identifying this as a politically motivated act. they've been so clear, so many of them have said on the record that they believe this is about damaging when president biden as he goes into the election. i think it's really smart of the president and his team to try to get out ahead of this, to try to forestall some of the damage that republicans want to reap on him. but at the end of the day, i just don't think it'll work. there is just no evidence to support an impeachment. you know, kevin mccarthy continues to go down this road where he is essentially at the back in call of we the most radical elements of his caucus. at the end of the day, it's going to fail them. >> briefly, to both of you, a new poll by the wall street journal shows trump is the top choice of nearly 60% of republican primary voters. do you think the other candidates stand any chance? or is it still too early to tell? don, then david. >> i just don't see a path away for a single one of them to get to the nomination. donald trump is dominating the field. even if you add it up, all of their numbers, they still don't reach a point of defeating donald trump. i just don't see it. i agree with david that it'll be almost impossible for any of them to overtake donald trump. he's going to get their nomination. >> david? >> i think republican donors should save their money on any other candidate. this is donald trump's race. focus on influencing the former president if you are a republican in the direction you. a shot but ultimately, it provides the opportunity for joe biden to say i'm a president who is going to lift up all people. 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series, can you dig, a pop origin story, documents this history. the creator and co director is peach so leyla, he joins me now. thanks for joining me and thanks for working with my friends on this. congratulations on this project. maybe hip-hop origin stories begin with dj and legendary rec room parties at 15 20 avenue. but, as we mentioned, in the introduction, your podcasts chose a different entry point, a different entry point, tell me how the tragic death of black benji bred life into his pop? >> it's good to see you reverend, thank you for having me on. back to school, you just talked about in the last segment, the party was the of back to school jam. getting ready for school to the committee for clothing. the dawn of her pop, but the night before hip-hop was really how it all began. it goes back to choosing peace and the power of peace to change the way you live from within. we found that benji, colonel benjamin, was the catalyst for the movement, for the art to travel to the bronx. so, when he was murdered, he was the brothers peacemaker, and for the largest gang in the bronx at the time. they chose to change the world order to appease maker. on his first assignment, to de-escalate violence between free gravel rags, they beat him to death. what they did next, we talk a lot about the power of choice, and making the plan and work in the plan, they decided to not retaliate. they held a peace treaty and over 50 gang showed up. they decided to lay down the weapons and erase the territories. that really gave birth to the movement of art to form and travel. to us, that was the beginning of the seeds of the culture. >> he pops starts to speak the truth about inequality and justice. police brutality and violence. first, as a medical conversation within the black community, and eventually becoming a dominant force in american culture as a whole, what has been the social impact of that. i worked with him from the 80s and you and i talked about it. it became the soundtrack to the movement to fight the power of public enemy. tell us the impact. >> the impact is profound, reverent, it's changed the way we've all lived. it's changed language, music, film, entertainment, history. it's changed broadway, without hamilton that's pop right there himself. so, it's literally been a part of the american fabric. we think, and again, you talk to chuck about, that you are informing people, you inspire people, and empower people. but, you are also allowed to tell your story and i think a lot of people around the bronx, queens, brooklyn, staten island, they were able to get that story out to a larger audience. with a good beat with his fist in the air, that story travels. advertising works, and i think the story got out. they were hit, people were dancing to, it and they were also absorbing in. >> any recent interview, chuck d said the series helped highlight a side of hip-hop history that was missing for the 50th and oversee retrospective. what is that missing piece in your view? >> my view, personally, is missing piece are the four elements of hip-hop. i think the 50th year is exciting, but there's a lot of focus on a wrap and the genre of that industry. hip of, as a culture, is both of four elements, djing, and seeing, and graffiti writing. i think those were buried with the headlines of rap. that was one thing that was important to get out there as well. i think, hip-hop is also a multi cultural revolution where it was black, brown, white, it represents a new york where it was born. i think the dna of hip-hop is a dna of new york. new york is obviously multi cultural. i think that also came through that hip of is a diverse culture, not a single community. >> as you take stock of everything you learn, putting together this five car series and observing the discussion of hip-hop's 50th anniversary, more generally, what are your thoughts on the future of hip pop, specifically as a force for social change? >> going back to your last segment again, i think we need to get this in the curriculum. i think this part of the storytelling,. working with museum, schools, and even getting this into the projects, where platforms like audible are not easily accessible. part of the folks who want to be inspired by the story get to hear it? i think it's going to take a lot of effort to get this into the right places, at the right time, and that right time is right now. so, it's a commemoration of 50's years, but the work still has to get done. >> pete chelala, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thought, stay with us. >> ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. ma, ma, ma— ( clears throat ) for fast sore throat relief, try vicks vapocool drops. with two times more menthol per drop, and powerful vicks vapors to vaporize sore throat pain. vicks vapocool drops. vaporize sore throat pain. pain was 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