but i can tell you, there are two male victims and one male victim. all of the deceased victims are black. the shooter had authored manifestos went to his parents, one to the media, want to federal agents. portions of the manifestos details the shooter's disgusting ideology of hate. finally put, the shooting was racially motivated and he hated black people. >> nbc national correspondent is tracking developments in west palm beach. marissa, bring us up to date what we know at this hour? >> yes, a lot of it you heard now authorities were largely tightlipped until the last half hour, alicia, what we learned from the press conference was frankly disturbing and illuminating. we know there are four dead total including the gunman who the sheriff's office in jacksonville said he turned the gun on himself. the manifesto is such a key part of this because they say that this was rooted in white supremacy. this was racially motivated, the manifesto detail his desire to kill black people. what refer to black people as the n-word in the manifesto. we learned that the manifesto was sent out to local media, local law enforcement as well as his own parents. for some context here, this area in jacksonville that was targeted is predominantly black. there's a local university that was put on -- you know the students were told to shelter in place as this was unfolding, this is a historically black university. a very small one. when we talk about the fatalities here we said that there were four total, but aside from the gunman we are talking about three victims. they were all black themselves. so, you know, when you connect the dots here, alicia, probably no coincidence that this was an area historically black, predominantly black. especially with the manifesto and the context here. i want to add some other details here, they said that the suspected shooter was outfitted with a tactical vest and had swastikas drawn on the guns that he had with him. now, the shooter turned the gun on himself as we mentioned, was believed to have resided with his parents, he was involved in 2016 domestic call in clay county with no arrests in 2017. these are preliminary details as you just heard from the sheriff's office. they are not releasing his name at the moment. when we look at the scene, when we look at the dollar general here, we saw people of course, overcome with grief. of course, looking at yet another instance of a tragedy that has become all too familiar in this area. so, you know, this is something that obviously in the coming days we hope to learn more about, alicia. we know that this is shaking their community. this is a scary thing to hear, especially when you hear someone who has a manifesto, with the desire to kill black people and acted on it. alicia? >> mariza para for us, mariza i hope you will join us later on the show as you have more reporting. i want to bring robert garcia of california, congressman thank you for being here with us. i want to take this into parts. there is access to weapons, in this case we know that the gunman had just a handgun and an ar-style rifle. there's also the hate and the ideology of heat that is permeating our society. one, easier to legislate than the other congressman? >> look, this is a community's worst nightmare. i was mayor of the city for eight years, i know what this does, the shattering of this community, it is terrific. we're sitting here watching this happen over and over again without any sort of action at the federal level by the congress. as a freshman member, this hopelessness that we are all feeling is shameful. we should be ashamed of our u.s. congress for not taking action, when we know that the solution to this is limiting guns. it's a limiting assault rifles, we saw that the gunman had obviously a weapon of war that civilians have no need to have for this type of activity or to use for anything for that matter. the idea that we cannot legislate a better solution is really frustrating. my heart goes out to the entire community and state and it clearly congress has to get to work. i'm grading my chief see what will be numerous messages of thoughts and prayers and no action after time and that is disgusting. as far as the hate and i think this is emblematic of where we're at as a country right now. we're seeing this huge racism, this new not see supremacist groups, and people taking action and using guns using loopholes in the law using our inaction in congress to kill people. to kill people in communities across the country. >> this issue feels sometimes as though it has become intractable. i want you to listen to what someone on the ground, this is a pastor from the community had to say about the moment the jacksonville finds itself in. >> i just want to say that this is the moment we come together. it's so sad that it happened in this part of the community. i've been here in this community for a long time, i've never seen anything like this. it's time for us to come together in our community. as a pastor, i'm ready to do whatever so we just need to make ourselves available. leadership needs to come together and truly people in our community need leadership. >> congressman, i ask you this as much as a member of congress, a member of the progressive caucus as i ask you as a person who served as mayor for eight years. when you talk about the coming together when you talk about the healing this is inherently complicated when you talk about survive a ship it becomes more complicated when you talk about communities that have been historically marginalized and under resourced that may not have the counseling access resources they need on the daily basis, much less in the wake of a tragedy. and as much as looking for action like things like gun safety and we can sit here and talk about the heat that permeates our nation at this moment, there is a question of what is owed to survivors of the resources that are necessary when you live in a country where this has become the status quo? >> i think all of that is absolutely right, first it is important for the sheriff to recognize that this was a racist attack against black people. clearly it was motivated that way, i'm sure we will learn even more about the hateful messages that have been left behind by it's a shooter and this coward. so it is important for the community and us as a country to recognize that this was an attack on the black community, within that city, and so that is going to take ensuring that that community especially is supported at this time and the resources are on the ground that mental health providers are there. that schools are able to bring in children and families and provide the support that will be needed in that community. at the same time as all of that is happening, we have to continue to push out these moments and really take our anger that we should feel. it's not just sadness but anger and try to turn that into action. these members of congress and across the country, it is past time to add a minimum get to banning these assault rifles, which we used to do in this country. it's totally crazy. >> congressman, before i let you go understanding that you and i were slated to talk about a whole series of other issues, i would be amiss if i didn't talk about the fact that today's the 50th anniversary of the march on washington, the march on washington this anniversary of course centering gun violence. so to watch this split screen where an african american community has been targeted by someone who wrote multiple hate filled manifesto's about the desire to attack black americans, as you heard from the sheriff there. this was racially motivated, you have the fbi looking into this as a hate crime. how do you reconcile the split screen that arc of justice, 50 years and yet this happening just today in jacksonville? >> it's very hard. i mean, obviously, we're trying to recognize the importance of this day and of the movement, the march and if we really want to take that spirit of supporting and uplifting and hope and peace we need to be translating that into action. all of these empty words or these uplifting of martin luther king, civil rights movement of coming together, it's nothing without actual action. so, i hope that we can take this moment, obviously provide all that's needed for this community, my heart goes out to it, but past that take some action. >> california congressman robert garcia, thank you so much for being with us. more coverage of the shooting in jacksonville as a head, we have someone standing by with the other stories that we are looking at msnbc. >> two people have been arrested in connection -- saturday morning, at least eight people were injured, seven were hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries. police say the shooting was not relayed it to the parade. and in oklahoma, a shooting at a high school football game left a 16 year old boy dead. police say an argument between at least two men lead to gunshots friday night. at least four other people were injured. so far, no arrests but investigators are searching for a person of interest. and in hawaii, officials in maui have released a list of 388 people who are still missing after wildfires decimated the city earlier this month. the new list is a sharp contrast to the estimated 1000 people who remained unaccounted for earlier this week. the number of the missing is expected to drop in the coming days. more american voices right after this break. is break ♪♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪♪ ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourists taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ i need it cool at night. you trying to ice me out of the bed? 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>> in some ways i think legally it can be advantageous to donald trump, but politically it may be disadvantages. here is what, legally he will get a preview of the prosecution case. he can develop his own strategy and response to that. and they can lock in witnesses to their stories. a skilled defense attorney can use cross-examination to point out minor and not really relevant and consistencies and someone's story and make them look like they are an unreliable reporter, when the time comes to testify the case. so, legally, it is helpful to have somebody go first. politically, i think a big part of donald trump's strategy is delay so he can claim i have a perfectly legitimate defense, i have an expert report that completely exonerates mean you will find all about that after the election. if we see the trial of some of the other defendants first, and we see the gory details of the evidence, then it may be that that political strategy backfires on him. >> molly, i want to hear you jump in on the political strategy, right? if the entire point from donald trump's legal team has been in part a legal argument but of course a political argument they want to push this past the election, i know you have the codefendants who are beginning early, right? and actually they are beginning to show us what it is that fani willis has, just how damaging is that for donald trump? >> well, i would say that look, trump wants to do this case in the court of public opinion. he wants his people to get on his side, and he is going to do that by trying to kind of say this is not about him. this is about a prosecution that is unfair. this is a country that is coming after him. which of course we know is completely untrue. but that is part of the game. i do think he wants to run out the clock because he knows that he can keep his people, or he can get his people on his side won the nomination. and remember trump world wants to stay alive another day. >> molly, i appreciate your ability to have coherent thoughts as the puppy loses its mind, i can barely keep up train of thought when my children do the same. ryan, you have of course covered countless prosecutions of those who broke into the u.s. capitol, wrote a book about it in fact. this, as we are watching it, it's one piece of the story, how does the georgia indictment helped tell the bigger story of trump's multipronged effort to stay in power? >> well, for a one chesebro is on the ground of the capitol, he's one person who theoretically, at least, he won't ultimately but could face charges, very few defendants have faced charges for being on the outside of the capital. but, you know, right now we are essentially at more than the halfway point for the overall january six investigation. early on in the investigation one of the fbi officials said we are in the first quarter, we are getting started but now the clock is ticking because calm 2026, it's one of the statute of limitation ends on these offenses, that's when they have to do it. right now there has been 1100 people charged. but, you know the total number of people could be charges upwards of 3000. so, every week we are seeing new cases come in. a lot of the people i speak with are doing the numbers and on the back of the napkin doing the math here, they say they really have to step it up in order to get to the people who committed violent acts that day. the fbi's website, if you go the right now, there are hundreds of people who assaulted law enforcement officers who have not yet been arrested. at least 100 of them have been identified, but not yet arrested. it really is that they are holding the fbi, their feet to the fire at this point. they're trying to put pressure on the, make sure these cases come through because a lot of the tips even that we see just recently as this week they were in the fbi's hand in 2021. a lot of this is docket manage but especially when you are getting the massive trump trial thrown into d.c., there's a lot for the system to handle. it's an unprecedented number of cases that they have to work through. >> barbara, it brings me back to the argument that he makes about the fact that this is a message to anyone who would consider re-running this playbook with donald trump in a future election. i want to ask you georgia secretary of state raffensperger set to testify the hearing on monday and mark meadows request to move his case to federal court, what is if you will be watching for on monday? >> i will be looking for how mark meadows is able to satisfy his burden of showing that he was accurate in the scope of his own authority. it is on the moving party to show and proved the court that he was as i see these allegations it's all about political activity and campaign activity as opposed to governing. the purpose of the rule is to provide -- and so i think that that is an uphill climb for meadows, we will see if you can make it. >> barbara, ryan, molly, as always, thank you all so much for being with us. ahead, more on what officials say just a short time ago about the racially motivated shooting that claimed three lives in jacksonville florida. you are watching american voices. voices market, you'll find fisher investments is different than other money managers. 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>> well, for one my heart goes out to the family of that community, jacksonville community. i want to say that the source has been the same, it's been about hate. the drive around racial hate. well received with the shooting that happened today in jacksonville is also stemming from the same sense of hate, and white superiority that is fueling this voter suppression that we are seeing. it wasn't by accident that even when donald trump called georgia and other states that there was a state that he figured he could actually be able to impact, i think minority votes and democratic-leaning voters. it is a tragedy. we are going to have to deal with the real issue. sometimes it looks like shootings in our communities. sometimes it looks like increased violence. sometimes it looks like racial hate, but all of it stems from the same thing. until we have a real reckoning with racial justice and racial equity in this country and really center humanity, we will continue to face similar circumstances. >> part of the reason i wanted to make sure to speak with you specifically is because we have a lot of people on talking about georgia, talking about the way that the state has been reshaped by what happened in georgia and by the case that we are now watching on fold in georgia, i want to hear it from you, right? not sort of what is happening to republicans, what is it going to mean for 2024, if this is about the organizing and the work of making it easier for people to vote and participate in our democracy rather than making it harder and undermining that work, where does it leave someone like you and your organization today? >> we have to do the work. we have to believe. just like today when we are commemorating what dr. king said was i have a dream. but what people don't know, that march was titled the march for jobs and freedom. he talked about economic justice in poverty. he talked about police brutality. he talked about the need for voting rights. these are things that we were talking about 60 years ago that have not been resolved now. so organizations and people are doing the work like myself, we have to see this as a day not only to reflect but we commit ourselves and radically reimagine our way forward so we can have a democracy that is inclusive, the one that we desire and the one we deserve. >> congressman cabello, here is one of the things that makes georgia so interesting, it's one of the few places that we have seen top republican officials stand up to trump's election lies, voters they have repeatedly rejected trump's election deniers on the ballot. i wonder as someone who is outside of georgia looking into georgia what is the example that georgia can set of what is possible? >> well, alicia there are a very strong examples of what on is republican leadership can look like. that's governor brian kemp who has refused to go along with former president trump's lie. has refused to go along with the scheme, when the president reached out. he is extremely popular as a matter of fact. you look at the way he performed in the state and it should show other republicans are there is a path to being honest about what happened in the 2020 election and being successful in an election. i think some of these primary candidates are starting to figure this out. there were some who were willing to step out a little more than they used to at this last debate last week. perhaps there is some hope here that the republican party can course correct and make a basic commitment to the truth. >> latosha, i'm sure you have thoughts on brian kemp but i want to make sure i get to something that is critical and easy to miss, your group along with other voting rights organization, you are pushing back against the process to verify a petition against a proposed police training center in atlanta which critics call cop city. the atlanta journal-constitution quotes if prior petition drives any kind to force a referendum on atlanta police safety training center could be -- lying byline view of 104,000-plus signings. a large number of rejected signatures would keep the question of the ballot, i don't have a ton of time but i do want to get you in latosha, on a house signature verification can undermine whose votes get counted and how much of our democracy is tied up in what can often look like bureaucracy? >> the bottom line is afforded of voter suppression. any time we are creating barriers to participate is voter suppression. that is something that we and other organizations will continue to raise and push up against. it's absolutely ridiculous that we are in this position in the first place. go to the people, asked people what they want, and then let's respond based on that. if you're really representing in a democracy. >> you understood when i said that you had a very little time to explain something very complicated, you got exactly what i meant. latosha, former congressman car bail, thank you so much. for next separating fact from fiction on what the gop candidates said this week about abortion. michelle goodwin hapless way through all the misinformation. author prachi gupta is here to discuss her new book the question for model minority myth and what has cost for her family. stay with us. pano ai chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...because t-mobile helps pano ai innovate, so they can stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. permission to dig in? 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or in the next week? but of course, the rhetoric here is women speaking to terminate their pregnancies the day before they would deliver, which is of course, absolutely inaccurate. we have no scientific evidence in the united states of that in any kind of circumstances were literally the woman's on her death. but >> republicans also not completely united on a federal abortion ban. i want you to take a listen to what nikki haley had to say about it. >> i stand behind that we should not have a federal abortion ban. we should not. and the reason why we shouldn't is very simple. it's the tenth amendment. in the constitution, in the constitution in which the state created the federal government, not the other way around. >> it is in the hands of the people, and that is where it should be. but when you're talking about a federal ban, be honest with the american people. we have not had 45 pro-life senators in overall hundred years. so no republican president can't ban abortions anymore and then a democrat presidents could ban all those state laws. they don't make women feel like they have to decide on this issue when you know we don't have 67 votes in the house. >> that should not be confused for being an advocate for reproductive rights and freedom. it is only on that stage made to feel like at moderate position. what us through what those arguments mean in practice? >> that's right, alicia. again, thank you so much for censoring these important health issues that are central to a democracy. first, understand this as political. it has been a political playbook. maybe we should start with the fact that this is not a -- tip-in abortion. -- five of the seven justices were republican appointed justices. justice black authored the opinion. roe v. wade was put on the court by richard nixon. when we look at it today, it is radically different from the republican position 50 years ago. and it is a party than that is trying desperately hard to swim out of the torrent that has been created of something that has been a political lean in. so the truth of it is, the supreme court and the dobbs decision -- but the reality is, live in these matters to the states, may see the confederacy rise again. we could talk a van diagram showing the former confederate states being the most antiabortion. leaving congress to deal with, seems something the supreme court is not willing to entertain. and nikki haley is right on that point. if the congress is also in disarray and unable to reach the level of most necessary in order to pass a 16-week abortion ban, that is something that senators like lindsey graham have been pushing and of course we still just this week in the state of north carolina, a six-week abortion ban going into effect with a 4 to 1 decision. something that even two years ago did not have master in the state of north carolina. so there is disarray amongst the republican party. >> i only have about 30 seconds left, michele, but i want to ask you about the abortion bans that went into effect this week. what does that mean for the state closest to the states that are still providing access to abortion? >> it means the reproductive health care desert. it means a lack of health care and services for people who need them. and this is for a range of health issues, because at the beginning of the date we must remember this as a health issue and that the united states leads all of the developed world in maternal mortality and maternal morbidity, ranking about 55th in the world. it is at the deep opposition quite frankly. >> as always, thank you so much, michele goodwin. next, author prachi gupta on how -- can have serious consequences, especially with immigrant families and communities. and at the top of the hour, an update on the racially motivated shooting that left three people dead inside a dollar store general in jacksonville, florida. stick with us. stick with us. liver problems may occin c'. ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. mlb chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. hi! need new glasses? 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>> he wanted to be taller. and i really needed to understand what those two or three inches of extra height meant to him emotionally. and it took me down this journey of, what it meant to be a brown man, an indian american man in america. and as his sister, it unearthed all of these feelings and issues that we had never really talked about, that i had no idea he was struggling with. >> on one hand, you can be told that you are exceptional and part of being told that your exceptional means you don't have normal challenges and that you don't need help. >> exactly. exactly. that is model minority myth. it's this idea that asian americans are pegged as the good immigrants, and there comes with that all of these sort of signifiers. these six elections of acts -- because there are many problems with this stereotype. one of them is that it hits communities of color against each other. but the other is, there's a tremendous psychological impact. and that's really what i wanted to explore in the book, and that's what i begin to explore in this essay. is that when we raise people to believe that they can only be exceptional, or this image, they learn to suppress. and this is what happened in my family. you learn to suppress and hide everything that doesn't fit with that image. and that has severe psychological and social impacts. and in my family, it really affected our ability to create a vulnerability and intimacy with each other. because we were so focused on being able to protect the right image, the image that america expected us to project. >> it also occurs to me, that it has much as that can commit -- within more exclude -- it can also pick people against each other. underneath those umbrellas. it strikes me that t --e umbre the model minority myth as there are two indian americans who are vying for the gop nomination. vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley. i want you to take a listen to something that called manchin on the debate stage. >> my parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago. i have gone on to found multibillion dollar companies. i did it while mary my wife. raising our two sons. following our faith in god. that is the american dream. >> for you, haven't written an entire book what it means. because it of course is deeply personal, it means so much to your family. there is a broader social point that you're trying to make. >> it is deeply, deeply personal book. i've written a lot about my mom. but the reason i wrote it is because there is an urgent political message, and i think that clip you played demonstrates exactly why over the summer we saw affirmative action get it. and it was gutted on the back of the model minority myth. and what we just heard him say is invoking that same myth, the idea that because he succeeded and achieved quote unquote the american dream, therefore that proves that america is a meritocracy, where everyone can succeed if they work hard enough. and we know that that's not true. >> we know that that's not true. it's also wall to me that it was said on stage, where you also have other candidates talking about the ways in which they want to make our relationship with mexico more violent and more -- to your point, saying that there are some immigrants who deserve to be here and some who do not. >> exactly. >> all right, i am so happy that you are here. congratulations on the book. it is called they called us exceptional and other lies that raised us. and it is out now. that is all the time i have for today, i'm alicia menendez. i want to make sure you follow our show on twitter, on instagram, and on tiktok. it is @aliciaonmsnbc. i'll see you back here tomorrow. after a short break, it is time for a man. he is going to have the latest on today's mass shooting in jacksonville, florida. that and much more, after this. re, after this (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. 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