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good morning, everyone. and welcome to "way too early" on this wednesday, august 23rd. i'm eamon mohyeldin in for jonathan lemire. trump reportedly had his lawyers negotiate for him to turn himself in during prime time television hours. as "the guardian" reports trump wanted to maximize television ratings for his benefit for his surrender to the authorities in atlanta and could extend the coverage of the proceedings by speaking afterwards in front of cameras and reporters. this, of course, is trump's fourth indictment in as many months. in each he's worked to turn appearances into spectacles and quote, in an effort to discourage the indictments. the booking process in fulton county typically includes a mug shot, fingerprinting and taking both height and weight measurements. "the guardian" reports trump has asked his lawyers and the secret service to get him out of taking that mug shot. in previous cases he did not have to take one, but the fulton county sheriff has stated the former president will be treated like any other defendant. now, as we await trump's surrender, the other 18 codefendants, well they have begun to turn themselves in. earlier this morning former georgia gop chair david shafer and cathy lathem, surrendered to authorities. of course both are accused of taking part in that fake elector scheme in that state. the architect john eastman was also booked in fulton county. his lawyers say it took about an hour and a half for him to go through the booking process and he spoke with reporters outside the jail including our own ali vitali. >> do you think the election was stolen? absolutely still. >> no question. >> and you won't answer on immunity from prosecution? do you think others had a standing on that, people like meadows? >> no comment. >> also booked yesterday atlanta bails bondman scott hail accused of trying to tamper with systems in this state. several others are also expected to surrender today including former trump campaign senior legal advisor jenna ellis. her bond will be set at $100,000. one of the candidates running for president plans to sue the national republican committee for not allowing him to participate in tonight's debate. larry elder says he met the party's requirements and now claims the rnc's rules are rigged. in a statement he writes, quote, just as i had to fight to successfully be on the ballot of california's recall election, i'll fight to be on that debate stage. elder will hold a press conference on the issue tuesday in milwaukee. perry johnson and miami mayor frances suarez also claimed to have met the debate criteria but not selected. the source familiar with the rnc's rules tells nbc news johnson and suarez did not meet the party's polling requirements explaining that the polls that they were using were not up to rnc standards. and eight candidates will be on the debate stage tonight in milwaukee. of course the front runner donald trump he did qualify for the event, he's decided not to participate. he posted on truth social last night that he'll be very busy during the debate during which he is expected to release an interview with former fox news host tucker carlson. joining us now politics reporter for semafor. dave, it's great to see you. all eyes today will be on milwaukee. perhaps some will be watching the tucker carlson interview. walk us through what we can expect to hear from candidates tonight? what will their strategy be on the debate stage as they try to differentiate themselves and also talk about the elephant in the room? >> well, they're going to try to move on from donald trump as quickly as they can. they're often asked about donald trump. the conversation pivots back to that. they were very little news to say about that except almost universally except for chris christie, they're going to go back to what they're running on. there's a lot of agreement on these candidates and i think that's going to come across. everyone basically agrees the trump presidency was a success. you're going to see ron desantis point to his record in florida, argue he alone has defeated the left and created a economy. you'll see vivek ramaswamy argue he can build on the trump presidency. you see a lot of criticism of ramaswamy from mike pence, a little bit ron desantis. a feeling among the candidates this is a guy who will say anything, adopted a position in a hurry, get over his skis. and they'll be able to criticize him on commitments he's made that don't back up. and the rest of this field just need to get noticed. tim scott has been focused on the trail on immigration, building borders, just a few popular republican issues and on his ability to win the erection. nikki haley has been doing the same. both of them sort of argue they can break the coalition as nonwhite candidates, the first nonwhite nominees. hailey adds to that she's going to defeat china economically. mike pence, same thing. he referred to the trump/pence administration, we can go back to his view not january 2021 but maybe march 2020, but with more clarity and more conservative credentials. i think he's going to try to grill him on this, much more clear what he would do about abortion, health care, offering medicaid. i think you're going to see pence try to fight a few flags. i heard some strategists i was talking to over the week compare his role to essentially bernie sanders in 2019, keeping them honest, getting a flag planted in the ground. >> let me ask you quickly. for their part the moderator said they will ask the candidates about the indictments. do we have any indication what the candidates will say or what positions they'll adopt on the indictments donald trump is facing and how that may affect the presidential race? >> chris christie will perhaps alone say these indictments are serious, they're real, donald trump betrayed the party, the country, the office on january 6th and actually back to election night 2020. he's going to be clear he's going to say he's not fit to be president again. he does like bringing the topic to other issues, but his theory and i think it's in new hampshire polling is that no one else has the courage to criticize trump over the indictments, over what he did in the election because they look at the polling and say, okay, they think trump is being railroaded. the rest of the field they think trump is being railroaded and the justice system -- to use phrase that gets used every day on the trail -- weaponized. i think a lot of candidates who are not chris christie are going to take that question and turn it into something else. politics reporter for semafor, thank you for starting us off this morning. of course we're following a major new development in the classified documents case. a key witness against former president donald trump and his two codefendants has now retracted previous false testimony and has proved or provided rather incriminating information about defendants after switching lawyers. in a new court filing by special counsel jack smith yucil taveras who served as the director of information technology at mar-a-lago changed his testimony about efforts to delete security camera video after he switched his lawyer to a public defender. taveras was initially represented by stanley woodward who also represents walt nauta and other trump allies and whose tees were being paid for by trump's save america pac. according to the filing taveras decided to switch attorneys after he learned he was being investigated on suspicion of having made false statements in his previous grand jury testimony in washington, d.c. when testifying before the d.c. grand jury, taveras initially stated that he was unaware of any effort to erase the videos at mar-a-lago. but yesterday's filing reveals, quote, immediately after receiving new counsel, trump employee 4 identified as yucil taveras, retracted his prior false testimony and provided information that implicated walt nauta, carlos de oliveira and former president trump in efforts to delete security camera footage. attorney stanley woodward declined to comment to nbc news. also in the filing prosecutors inform judge aileen cannon who previously questioned why they were still using a d.c. grand jury to collect evidence, was told the d.c. grand jury officially wrapped up its work on august 17th. all right, still ahead 2024 white house hopeful vivek ramaswamy is facing scrutiny over comments he made on the september 11th terrorist attacks. he said he was misquoted, but now the audio has actually been release. and some are falsely claiming president biden fell asleep during a memorial for wildfire victims in maui. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back. sports and weather when we come right back the citi custom cash℠ card automatically adjusts to your spending. hi. ♪♪ you don't have to keep tabs on rotating categories. this is the only rotating i care about. it does the work for you. earn cash back that automatically adjusts to your top eligible spend category, with the citi custom cash℠ card. businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. aaa relies on t-mobile's network to stay connected nationwide, so they can help get their members back on the road. and we're helping pano ai innovate, to stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. i used to wait to run my dishwasher 'til it was super full. now, i dish differently. i run it daily. weekdays... weekends... sometimes after a big snack. you might think that's wasteful, but it's not. 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>> this is an opportunity for ron desantis to rise to the occasion or not. unfortunately, for ron desantis, i don't think he has what it takes. it seems desantis, number one, he'll be a target of all of the other candidates who are vying to be in second place, so that's going to pose a real problem for him and i don't think he has that thing that translates well on the debate stage. ron desantis is obviously a very intelligent person, he's very successful governor, will that translate on the debate stage? will he have the zingers especially like with chris christie or vivek coming after him in i'm skeptical. if he doesn't that becomes the narrative coming out of the debate -- not trump, ron desantis has a chance to make the story the beginning of his comeback >> any candidate that you think will have a breakout moment tonight? >> obviously, you look for ron desantis, i mentioned chris christie, i don't think he can have a breakout moment in the sense that he would become front-runner, i think he'll be the chip we're watching tomorrow morning. christie -- he can talk. he's a skilled or or the, i think he's very good in this setting. also, i think someone like tim scott or vivek could flatter us with their elegance. not propel them to be a contender against donald trump but maybe overshadow ron desantis. >> some have speculated that tonight is a performance for an audience of one, perhaps auditioning to be donald trump's running mate, do you think the candidates are thinking like that as well, publicly they're gunning for the top job, how much of this is driven by political ambition tonight. >> the motives -- the incentives are different for different candidates. ron desantis said he's the only person actually running for president, i think chris christie is running to take down donald trump. and then i think someone like vivek or a tim scott are positioning themselves for the future and that could be to be vice president. various motives and incentives and that will inform how they'll debate and whether they're willing to attack trump from the stage. >> donald trump isn't going to be there. to what extent is the rest of the republican party willing to listen to chris christie? >> that's the state of the republican party, but look, chris christie is so good at this he can be funny and i think even though the crowd in the room in milwaukee may not be with him, there maybe people in new hampshire who are. >> a mike pence does, who served in the trump administration but now clearly trying to distance themselves from everything. >> what they want to do is go after joe biden. and i think they want to subtly criticize donald trump. basically make the argument that donald trump was great for four years until he started a coupe, that's what mike pence is essentially saying. nikki haley doesn't go that way. a little bit cute and nuanced about it. the question is whether they can get away with it. i think it's entirely possible that chris christie will take this opportunity to call them out for that. they want to do this two-step, they subtly praise and also criticize donald trump, he had some great ideas he just wasn't effective, he didn't actually build a wall. chris christie, asa hutchinson, but christie specifically who could call that out. >> all eyes on milwaukee tonight. matt, thank you so much for breaking that down for us. thank you for getting up way too early with us on this wednesday morning. catch me weekends right here on msnbc. i'll be on "morning joe" which starts right now. i'm confident that when the law is faithfully applied in this proceedings all of my co-defendants and i will be vindicated. >> you still think the election was stolen in. >> no question about it. >> that was john eastman right after he surrendered to authorities in fulton

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