across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late. we'll see you at the end of tomorrow. tomorrow thank you all for joining us at this hour. we have breaking news tonight, as i just mentioned. if your calendar was marked for this coming monday, when president trump was set to hold a press conference that he promised would exonerate him from the allegations laid out in that fulton county indictment, if that was a date that was reserved on your eye calla, well i'm sorry to inform you, that it has been called off. trump says tonight that his legal team is instead putting all of the overwhelming evidence informal legal filings. he adds, therefore, the news conference is no longer necessary. that news comes right after trump's legal team and another case finally gave its answer as to when they believe the former president should go to trial. trump's team is arguing tonight that the federal 2020 election case brought by special counsel jack smith should go to trial in april of 2026. that is a whopping two years, seven months, and 16 days from now. it notably comes well after the point in which trump could be back in office, and able to pardon himself, or just make this case disappear altogether. his legal team's justification for this date is it is classically trumpy. remember, if you will, when president trump first took office and had to prove to everyone that he had disentangled himself from his business interests, and he stood next to this giant pile of folders. there they are. and claimed that they contain the evidence he unsigned everything over to his sons. now, trump refused to let anyone actually look at the contents of those folders, but, hey it was a lot of paper, it was a lot of folders. today, the argument from his defense team felt a bit like that. in their formal legal filing, the defense included this graph, showing the height in feet of all the evidence jock smith will turn over to the defense, and comparing that height to the statue of liberty and the washington monument. you will see the discovery evidence is a lot taller than both the statue of liberty and the washington monument. trump's counsel compared getting through all that evidence to having to read the entirety of tolstoy's war and peace 78 times a day from now until december, which honestly sounds like the homework assignment from hell. they do have a point, it is quite a bit of reading. one piece 70 times a day. that said, we have no idea how much of the evidence provided here will be duplicate information or how much of it includes things trump has always had access to, like for example the contents of his own twitter account. moreover, typically it's not just one person doing all that reading. it's why people retain entire legal teams to help them in cases like this. nonetheless, trump and his lawyers argue that they will not be ready to go to trial until april of the year 2026. this is a decidedly different date than the one proposed by jack smith's team, which would like a trial date set for january 2nd of the year 2024 which is well before the presidential election. ultimately, both these dates are just suggestions. the trial date in this case is the judge's decision. at a hearing last friday, the judge presiding over this case made it very clear that a key deciding factor here as far as the date was going to be how trump conducted himself outside of the courtroom. this is what she said. quote, even arguably ambiguous statements from parties or their counsel, if they could reasonably interpreted to intimidate witnesses or prejudice potential jurors can threaten the process. the more a party makes inflammatory statements about this case, which could taint the jury pool or intimidate potential witnesses, the greater the urgency will be that we proceed to trial quickly. there are a lot of reasons to think trump's april of 2026 is unrealistic, but this, the one outlined by the judge might be number one. look at what happened today, for example. today, trump and his former attorney general bill barr. trump was on business, barr was on fox news. both of them were happening at four pm remember, bill barr announced his resignation as attorney general on the day that the trumps fake electors met all over the country, december 14th 2020. trump had asked barr to use the department to name special counsel to investigate voter fraud, and a huge department of justice to seize voting machines. so, barr is a potentially key witness here. and barr has said, -- he will appear as a witness if called to do so. so, in the hours before trump and barr's dueling interviews, trump posted this online. why does fox news constantly put on slow thinking and lethargic bill barr, who didn't have the courage or stamina to fight election fraud! after the interview trump reposted marjorie taylor greene's remarks that bill barr is a traitor. also today, trump has retreated or posted arguably ambiguous potential threatening things about -- including mike pence, as well as georgia's governor, its former lieutenant governor, and its secretary of state. also today, again, he posted a bunch of videos like this. >> how dare lowlife prosecutor, deranged jack smith, that's right, he is deranged. deranged jack smith and the doj, the fake political indictment against me must be immediately withdrawn. the system is rigged and corrupt very much like the presidential election of 2020. we have plenty of proof on that. >> does that kind of stuff count as a type of arguably ambiguous statements that might be perceived as threats? joining me now to get to the bottom of all that is barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, as well as mark levovitch, staff writer for the atlantic. barr, let me start with you. the old, but the documents are taller than the monument defense. have you ever seen an argument similar to this one complete with a graphic showing how the discovery evidence would measure up to the statue of liberty? >> no, and i have not seen a defendant so desperate to delay the trial that they are asking for a date more than two years down the road. it's really a audacious request. it's not only the defendant who has a right to a speedy trial, it's also the public that has the right to a speedy trial. the public has an interest and reasonably prompt disposition so a person can either be held accountable or exonerated. there is also an interest in making sure that witness memories do not fade, and that the evidence is still available when the case goes to trial. this argument about the terabytes of documents here is true and not only this case but in other cases as well. no, doubt it will take some time to work through all of this. but no, longer is at the world where you sit down which each page and page through it, the way discovery is reviewed today is it is assorted, searchable, the way you would go about a modern computer search and not the way you would read warn piece of time was written. >> you know, hat tip for the reference, martha. what is so abundantly clear in the sea of all days, the day trump is trying to kick this trial to 2026 is the same that he's out there making exactly the kind of statements that could be perceived as witness intimidation, stuff that will automatically trigger the judge to move the trial dates up in time. i mean, how do you square the sort of desperation that is evident in this legal filing as it pertains to the trial dates, and the behavior of the client who is at the center of all this? >> it doesn't, i mean like so many other things with trump world, this doesn't seem well thought out. i think, the 2026 date, the proposed state is something of a joke. i mean, look how people have responded to it. i would of course worried that it would interfere with the midterm elections of 2026. nobody talks about that, alex. but, there is actually going to be a very serious response to this and at some point the judge will weigh in on this probably sooner rather than later, especially as trump and many of his surrogates continue to sort of press her hand and behave in ways that are very close to the line if not over the line. at some point, she's going to have to give a solemn assessment of this and will probably come sooner. so, as you said, as you suggested, this is working against his interest if in fact he wants to delay this as much as possible. >> just another sort of legal note, barb, to your point this evidence will be digested in a way that is not like reading war and peace. there is also the manpower concern. it's not just one lawyer that is going to be tasked with doing that, presumably, but we talked about this last night. trump does have a skeletal legal crew assisting him in all this. i think todd blanche who was representing trump in three cases is part of a law firm that has two lawyers. the question i think at some point needs to be posed, when will trump actually spend the money to hire more lawyers to deal with all this? that seems like a necessity at this point, does it not? >> i mean, most of the time in a big white collar case like this you'll see a firm that has sufficient resources where they can call upon a number of associates, or even temporary associates that come on board to do discovery review. there will be a lawyer overseeing all of it telling them what it is there looking for, and the lawyers review that for the kinds of things they need. so, certainly more resources can come to bear than just one lawyer reading each page of the document. i think what is going to happen is first a trial date will get set, and then he will retain the lawyers he needs to meet that deadline. >> mark, as we talk about how incorrigible trump's behavior is here and everywhere, it is worth noting that he canceled the press conference that he was supposed to have on monday, which i know was marked in your calendar in all red you were busy all day, i'm sure, because of the advice from his lawyers. does that signal to you, and i think i can answer my own question before i finish, but does that signal to you that there is some part of trump and the trumpy reptilian brand that is aware of the legal peril he's in and at least occasionally listening to council? >> one would hope, i mean, the big question is sort of optic wise, i have a feeling donald trump is not going to sit next week out. i don't know if this means he's more likely to go to the debate in milwaukee on sunday, if he'll have something kind of dramatic up his sleeve there. but, i wouldn't count him out of the news cycle next week by any stretch. this is not something he does. also, just the stunning nonsense can be no legal filings, does seem to make some legal sense for once, there are a lot of ways you can get into the news and could insinuate himself into what's going to be a very big week for the republican campaign next week. >> yes, i'm sure this is not the only time we're going to be hearing from donald trump about his exoneration. barb, i have to ask, to give the defense team any sort of credit here they raised the issue of classified material that we now know maybe part of the discovery process. they talk about how the government is offering its own edit of relevant documents saying we're not going to have to go by her accuser's selection of what is relevant. do they have a point here in any of this filing that the judge will listen to that could cause a judge to actually say, you know what, january is far too soon, i'm going to give you july? do you see any relevance points here that are going to give the judge pauses she schedules to file a trial date? >> sure, i think joe has tried to accommodate those things as well, 70 days is the first, usually the first charles bag that gets issued. january is still five months away. no doubt there are issues that i think could cause a judge to believe more time is necessary than that. as you point out, the small amount of classified information is one thing they will have to deal with. we don't know exactly what that is, butpeople may need clearances, they need to figure out how they're going to handle that. so, that will take some time. then, also, the idea that you've got other kinds of things i need to be reviewed before then, that there is a significant volume of documents here. both of that makes sense. the judge has to decide what really is due process here, what amount of time is reasonable by balancing both the defendant's need to have reasonable preparation but also the governmen's right to protect the public interest in the speedy trial. >> yeah. when we talk about the trial, whenever it scheduled market, the reality is that journalists, americans, other candidates are going to be witnessing the strangest split screen probably in american political history. which is, do we have the calendar? we have the iowa caucus is on the 15th of january, you have trump civil defamation case the same day, trump civil fraud case two weeks later, the month of march is peppered with caucuses and trials. i mean, this is election season 2024 is going to be, and it truly is unlike anything we have ever seen in this country. the fact that the presumed front runner is going to be bouncing back, ping-ponging between pressing the flesh in iowa and new hampshire and the bar and south carolina and going on trial. this seems like the reality we are barreling towards. >> yeah, no, it does make your head explode in some ways. i mean, what i'm actually curious about is whether donald trump actually welcomes this. obviously nobody wants to be indicted four times and no matter how many counts, is not an enviable position to be in. but, when you are someone who is as pathological as donald trump and feeds on the attention as much as he does, and someone who's been so successful in leveraging attention like this, you know in some cases very negative attention, into political capital, i mean you have to wonder, could he just be so happy that he's going to be in the middle of all this? yes, it's a split screen but he'll actually be on both screens. i, mean it's a weird, weird thing but it's true. it's what we are looking at, and it feels kind of hellish. certainly it's fascinating but it is also unprecedented. >> i don't know that i'd even use the modifier kinda. maybe just hellish. respect. barbara mcquade and mark illegal witch, thank you guys very much for your time tonight. >> thank you, alex. >> have much more still ahead including new threats against jurors who recommended donald trump's fourth indictments and what fulton county is doing to protect those citizens. but first, the republican response to their front runners, 91 felony charges. just take it to the ballot box. that's next. stay with us. 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>> republican senator josh hawley, arguing that donald trump's legal troubles are not a result of mishandling of misclassified information or trying to overthrow the democratic elected governments. no, hawley says donald trump is being targeted because he challenged the globalists agenda. remember, this is the same josh hawley who egged on the january six rioters with an enthusiastic fist bump in the morning, and was later spotted running, sprinting, to safety once the insurrection began. in that moment, when he was running, senator hawley might have identified the mob he was running from as a group of trump supporters trying to overthrow the government. but if you asked him about the mob today, he would tell you the mob with an expression of defiance against the global cabal. so, those are some republican defenses of have floated since trump's fourth indictment this week. here is one more. >> january the 6th, i was there, i saw it, he was impeached. over it. the american people can decide whether they want him to be president or not. they should be decided at the ballot box, not out a bunch of liberal jurisdictions trying to put the man in jail. >> this is joe biden, and this is the democrats weaponizing the justice system because they are afraid of the voters. >> i understand that democrats and liberals and the media can't stand donald trump, and they'll do anything to stop him. but, it be much better from their point of view and the point of view of the country if they tried to stop him on the campaign trail and not the ballot box. let the american people make these choices. >> republican senators lindsey graham and ted cruz and tom cotton are making the argument of donald trump should not be held accountable for his actions in a court of law. instead, donald trump's future should be decided by the will of the voters. the thing is, we already tried that. the last time trump and his allies were given the chance to obey the will of the voters in 2020, they decided they did not like what the voters had to say. they didn't like the will of the voters. so, then they tried to overthrow the results of the election. that's the essence of at least two of these indictments here. perhaps a backstop that strategy, there's another contingent of republicans and congress trying to shut the whole thing down. cbs news reported this week that there are not one, not to, but three republican backed proposals in congress to defund jack smith's investigation as a way to stop his charges from ever reaching the courtroom. joining me now is former united states senator, claire mccaskill. claire, thank you for being here. we put that josh hawley sound in there just for you, but i would like you to respond to the notion that donald trump is being indicted because he's pushing back against a globalist cabal. doesn't hold any water for you, claire? well >> well, it's stupid. these guys are all lawyers. three of them went to ivy league, i think three of them went to harvard. i mean, harvard has to be so embarrassed at this point. this is alice in wonderland stuff, alex. when the impeachment happens after the president tried to mastermind a conspiracy to hold on to power, to foment the big lie about the election, to push for an insurrection, they all said, ted cruz said it specifically, we have courts for this. we should not convict him on the impeachment, because we have courts, right? so now, the rule of law is doing what it must in this country and that is recognize the facts and apply the law and what are these guys saying now? oh, let's let the voters speak. they are hiding under their desks. it's a bunch of cowards making things up. they are going to be in trouble in november because the vast majority of the country kind of sees what they're doing. >> yeah, pointing out the fact that they, all ted cruz -- these are guys that have gone to top tier law schools who are highly educated in the law and who for a time were seen as the leading lights of the next generation of republican leaders. i find it staggering that this is the position that they are taking, and i think when you couple that with the polling that we have, a new poll, this is from semaphor this morning, finds that donald trump's legal troubles can prove fatal in a general election. it finds a 24% of republicans say the charges make them less likely to vote for trump against biden. i mean, listen, polling is what it is, but that is the first indicator i think we have that this is not nothing. this is not business as usual. i wonder the degree to which you think there is any kind of internal recalibration inside the higher echelons of the republican party. >> i think people are scared to death -- because here's the problem. they're in a box canyon. handcuffed to the base, more than 50% of the people who call themselves republicans in america are for donald trump. in spite of almost 100 felony counts against him, in both state and local jurisdictions. and state and federal jurisdictions. they cannot go against this base, they are too afraid. they can if they have real leaders. they won't get go against a space but, the vast majority of independents, which is a growing sector of the electorate. the and events are up now -- close to 50%. the majority of independents in this country do not want more donald trump, and certainly the democrats don't. so, they do not have a path to victory in the general election, and they kind of know it. trump is kind of rigged it. speaking of rigging. he switched a bunch of states to winner take all. these other republican candidates, if they cannot beat him outright in a bunch of states, he takes all the delegates from those states, which makes it very difficult for anybody who's polled at even 20% now to ever have a chance. >> yes, ron desantis were talking to you. clare, i do wonder of the things that the republicans are doing to make the problem go away other than saying let the speed of science go to the ballot box. we chose to highlight this in congress to defund the special counsel's office, because as much as i would sort of wave that away as a hair brained fringe idea, we're talking about a speaker of the house kevin mccarthy who's willing to abide any lunatic idea that his base floats out there, whether it's packing appropriation bills to political non starters, what have you. do you think the idea that special counsel jack smith's smiths efforts should be defended she could actually emerge as a line of argument with this modern republican conference. >> not going to happen in the senate. i can tell you that for sure. keep in mind, there is a lot of senators are there from states where they have to win the independent voters to stay in office. they are not gerrymandered. you have states like ohio and pennsylvania and arizona and nevada, montana, where people want to get elected and they cannot do it without independent voters. so, they are never going to go for defunding jack 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reimagining public education. these jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting president trump. threats like that have been lighting up fringe websites as the former president's supporters zero in on members of the fulton county grand jury. as nbc news reports, the purported names and addresses of those members have been featured on websites that feature violent rhetoric. their images have also been posted online. today the fulton county sheriff's office responded that it was aware that personal information of members of the fulton county grand jury is being shared on various platforms. the office said it is working to track down the origin of threats in fulton county and other jurisdictions and to ensure the safety of those individuals who carried out their civic duty. joining me is gwen keyes fleming, former d. a. for dekalb county in georgia. maybe we can begin with how and why it is customary in the state of georgia for the names of grand jurors to be included in an indictment. >> the simple answer is that it is required by georgia's code of criminal procedure, a specific statute saying that the grand jurors selected, chosen, and sworn in the county of here, fulton, to wit, and in every indictment that i have seen in my 17 years as a prosecutor, you then go on to list the names of the grand jurors who heard the matter and you cross off the names of anyone who was not there that day or didn't hear that evidence. this is required by the code. the only instance that i have been able to find where it is not required is when the grand jury is investigating a use of force case by a peace officer, a use of deadly force case, and after hearing evidence they decide not to return an indictment. that is not the case that we have here. so it was required by law that these names be listed, and it is unfortunate that some apparently, have taken it upon themselves to provide private information about these residents who were doing their civic duty, and now we are seeing the threats that we are seeing through various electronic means. >> i would assume nothing like this has happened before. is that accurate? >> not at least in my experience. i think what folks need to realize is that when you use electronic communications across state lines, it's not just a local issue for the sheriff to address. that was bring the federal law enforcement agencies into the play, and so, again, i would assume that sheriff labat is working with all of the various law enforcement agencies that can bring resources to bear, to protect these residents. >> can i ask, just in terms of the impact the impact this is gonna have on the trial itself, when there's gonna be a new jury that has to be seated and the prospect of witness intimidation. what does this have, and what is the actual climate surrounding in up to an actual trial? >> in my experience i have seen it where as you get to the actual trial jury, even when you have cameras in the courtroom, the judge orders that those cameras cannot show the juror's faces. they have to constantly be directed away from the jurors and in most instances the only juror that is known is the person who signs whether it is guilty or not guilty verdict so in that respect i think there are more protections or at least there aren't means in the code that require the disclosure of the grand jurors'names, or of the jurors'names in a trial. >> that seems, given the landscape, a fortunate thing. there's been a lot of back and forth about the proposed schedule that da fani willis has laid out. jeffrey clark, one of the co-defendants in this indictment, is saying that the arraignment for defendants, the week of september 5th and a trial on march 4th, they are concerned, jeffrey kirk is concerned about the political nature of this case and the steps taken by the state thus far. how much credence do you think the judge is going to give to co-defendants who are calling this all politics? i should say, how likely is it the d. a. willis is going to get anything within the ballpark of march 2024 as far as a trial? >> two things. first of all, d. a. willis has said, both the night she returned the indictment and throughout the course of her career, that she makes her decisions based on the facts, the evidence she can present at trial, and the law. she does not make decisions based on partisan politics. so i find it interesting that those that may view this case through a political lens, are transferring this lens to her, when she has made it clear that it's not her framing. with respect to the timing, we also heard her say that she was ready to try this case in six months. that may seem ambitious to some, but if you think about it, if she had said anything less than a ready to go sort of stance, people would question whether she actually has her witnesses together, her evidence together. she is making it very clear that she is ready to go. now obviously, with the number of defendants that we have, there's going to be a lengthy pretrial motion, lengthy discovery process. but i think it's important to keep things moving, and i think the d. a. would want to keep things moving so that justice, whatever it may look like, based on the facts presented a trial, can be achieved expeditiously it's important, these each case needs to be viewed separately. i can speak to about what it's like to be the d. a. in georgia, faced with presenting a case of this caliber, this complexity, but the key really is to stay focused on your oath, on the facts and the law, and that's exactly what d. a. willis is doing. >> gwen keyes fleming, thank you as always for your time and thoughts. great to see you. >> my pleasure. >> when we come back, some new reporting about the presidential campaign of florida governor ron desantis. some new reporting on that campaign reminds us of this very odd video of republican senator mitch mcconnell that was taken nearly ten years ago. here it is. there he is. stick around for the 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here, you can try. get way more into what your into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. who was it was me >> the video we are about to show you was captured by a security camera at a conservation center on the hawaiian island of maui late monday night, just hours before devastating wildfires swept the island. it shows a bright flash, then the camera cuts out after losing power. according to a company that monitors power grids across the u.s., this is an arc flash which can happen when a power line sparks after coming into contact with things like trees and vegetation. when the conservation center's camera kicks back on you can see a fire breaking out in the distance right there. that was the first of several fires reported early this week, and it is important to point out that it is not the exact one the destroyed the coastal town of lahaina. the official death toll is 111 people and it's expected to rise with estimates with estimates of more than 1000 people unaccounted for. videos like this one are adding to scrutiny of hawaii's largest utility, hawaiian electric, as residents are trying to pin down what sparked this wildfire. joining me is brianna sacks, disaster and extreme weather reporter for the washington post. she was recently on the ground reporting in hawaii. thanks for being here. i found your reporting to be so illuminating in terms of what's going on here. this video, it's riveting and very disconcerting. can you tell me a bit more about the expectation, that these fires were caused by these powerlines? is that the working thesis at this point? >> yes. that became apparent early on. residents say power lines have caused quite a few fires on the island over the years and they don't deploy a public powered safety shut off program and there were reports from videos and residents themselves of powerlines swinging and sparking in the wind. so it's definitely the overall overwhelming sentiment that the power equipment caused the multiple fires on the island. >> from your reporting, it sounds like in the run up to these explosive wildfires that just hit maui, there were numerous calls made to the electrical company from residents who were trying to complain about or at least register lines that were in precarious positions and posed public safety risks. is that right? >> yes, there has been years of them demanding for the power company to put the infrastructure underground, to fix the lines, to clear the trees. it has been an ongoing plea from them because they know that they are susceptible to wildfire especially with drought making the grass around them much drier. the winds have also gotten more powerful. >> it really sounds like hawaii has been, or maui in particular, the powers that be have been very slow to adapt to the realities of climate change. not only do you have this electrical grid that seems precarious, but you have the planting of these invasive non native grasses that are highly flammable. they're all over the island. there is no building standards as there are in california to make sure buildings are adaptive to wildfires or flame retardant, as it were. and then there is an issue with water and shutting down dams. what can you tell us about what is being looked at now in terms of the things that need to be ameliorated or changed so that something like this never happens again? >> there are a lot of factors that go back years that have are very complicated in terms of land and water rights. but the thing is, there is a big disconnect on the ground. this place is prone to wild fire. everything everyone knows there's a wildfire every year, but officials don't think of wildfires. they're dialed in for hurricane response yet they did not deploy their hurricane sirens to warn residents about this incoming danger. they're under immense scrutiny for that. the grassland is the big problem. there's a lot of issues with plantation lands shutting down, developers, who is responsible for managing these lands, taking water away from native hawaiians and diverting it toward the resorts. the fire hydrants run out of water. that's not the first time this has happened. there have been multiple pleas for accounts for past fires, and it's unclear where whether any investigations have done to the causes of those fires. residents feel they were just set up for this to happen. >> you just got back from hawaii. >> i don't know what time zone i am in right now. >> what can you tell us about the response? as it stands right now. the stories we are hearing and locals are not getting what they need. we know biden will be visiting maybe next week on monday. but what about the disaster response? has it been adequate? we are hearing about people crowdfunding to get supplies--. >> going back to the fact that these people, specifically natives, this is not their first rodeo, so they have this disaster response infrastructure sat opposite just came online and really impressive. they're called pods. they have distribution centers that they were running. they were talking on walkie talkies because power has been an issue so they were wondering why 72 hours after this fire it's one of the biggest ports in the world, why there wasn't more supplies coming in, why it took so long to get federal and state resources. it's definitely more bustling now than it was a week ago, but people are still struggling for information. >> well thank you so much for the reporting you have been doing, brianna sacks. it has been essential, and so illuminating. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. that is our show for the evening. now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening, lawrence. ence >> good evening alex. we have andrew weissmann joining us with two georgia experts, gwen keyes fleming and amy lee copeland. there is so much to cover in defendant trump news that just keeps coming, but apparently we are not going to get that big moment on monday, where we were supposed to hear the trump defense for the first time. unfortunately. >> listen, lawrence, my monday is free and now apparently my april of the year 2026 is booked. >> don't be surprised if it happens before that, alex. >> okay, i won't be. >> thank you, alex. >> have a good show. >> thank you.