President biden and the first lady will travel to the maui disaster zone monday, as the death toll passed 100 people. Recovery crews bringing in more highly trained dogs to help in the search for victims. How daunting is it . Its the worst thing i have ever seen. This is apocalyptic. Its terrible. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea MitchellIn Washington. We are on defendant watch today as president s trump and his 18 codefendants in georgia have nine days to surrender to the Fulton County jail for fingerprinting and processing in advance of a separate arraignment to be scheduled before a judge. They will enter their pleas. One of the most prominent of the former officials charged, mark meadows, has petitioned to have his case moved to Federal Court where d. A. Willis would still try the case, but meadows would more likely have a much more favorable jury pool from all of Northern Georgia, not just Fulton County, and there would not be cameras in the courtroom. Meadows argument expected to be made by mr. Trump and other defendants, is that the actions he took in georgia were part of his official duties as a federal office holder. Our legal experts will drill down on that. Rudy giuliani, one of the other codefendants, says the trial should be delayed until after the 2024 election. A Federal Court should enter an order enjoining all of the cases until the election is over, because they are clearly now not cases, theyre not even crimes. This is the first amendment. This is free speech. Its my actions as a lawyer. I have a right to argue for my client. I have a right to exaggerate for my client. I have a basis for everything i said. Half of what they wrote about me is false, and they know it. This should be put off until after the election. Joining me now, nbcs Vaughn Hillyard at the Fulton County jail. Vaughn, we should points out that Rudy Giuliani was for a while the number three official in the Justice Department and a wellknown prosecutor who really was the first to use the rico law in these civil cases, while collar cases. Vaughn, all 19 defendants will have to arrive there at some point over the next nine days for a big dose of reality. They have to arrive at the jail. They are white collar criminal cases. Reporter right. Rudy giuliani is contesting that this is a misuse of the racketeering statute here in georgia. Rudy giuliani will have to make that case in front of a judge. For Rudy Giuliani, the last time he was in georgia was when he was testifying in front of an official proceeding at the Georgia Capital building here in atlanta. This time around, he will have to show up at some point over the next nine days here at the Fulton County jail to formally surrender. The sheriff here suggested that he would treat each of the defendants, including donald trump and Rudy Giuliani, just as he would anybody else that is getting booked here. That would include a mugshot, fingerprints. The jail here is open 24 hours a day. As long as they appear here before august 25th, it is an openended question as to when these 19 defendants will ultimately come here. Governor brian kemp was explicit in backing up, essentially, the Indictment Charges in a tweet in which he posted, the 2020 election in georgia was not stolen. Anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward under oath and prove anything in the court of law. Mike pence, the former Vice President , echoing the governor just a few moments ago in indianapolis. Take a listen. The former president and his allies have said for more than 2 1 2 years and continue to insist to this very hour. The Georgia Election was not stolen. I had no right to overturn the election on january 6. [ applause ] its a hard truth. My friend Governor Brian Kemp said it well yesterday. He said, for nearly three years, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed to come forward to provide evidence in a court of law. Reporter you and i were talking earlier about the Surrender Process versus the arraignment process. Those two things could happen on separate days for donald trump. We do not know when his formal arraignment will take place. It could very well happen after august 25th. We do know that the u. S. Secret service has been in contact with the Sheriffs Office to coordinate around his visits to georgia when they take place. Now lets bring in ryan reilly and former u. S. Attorney barbara mcquade. Ryan, tell us about scott mcaffee, the judge assigned to the case. When they get the arraignment. He is a very fresh judge. Former u. S. Assistant district attorney. He has experience. The most interesting thing here is his link to kemp and his appointment by kemp. The governor of georgia has been in a back and forth with donald trump. I expect when we see donald trump potentially target him, as he targeted other judges, that might be the basis which he uses to say that this individual is associated with kemp and thats the reason that he is making a decision. Theres another layer he wont have to deal with as much as other judges have. We have seen racial targeting of the judges. Thats not something he will have to deal with. I do feel like there will be a large number of attacks aimed towards him regardless just because of any potential decisions that he makes down the line that are potentially unfavorable to donald trump. To say nothing of what willis has had to deal with on the racial front. Barbara, lets talk about that. You have i want to ask you about there federal versus state court procedure. This judge has been on the bench for eight months. I was watching last night some of the georgia former officials down there saying he is experienced as a prosecutor locally, federally. He was an ig statewide. To handle this kind of docket and to handle all of these pretrial arguments, particularly some of the big issues that are going to be coming to him from all sides. You have 19 defendants, including donald trump. He is probably the newest judge sitting on the bench down there. Yes. Every judge is new at some point. Cases are assigned based on random draw. You dont say who is the most experienced or who has the best set of credentials to handle a particular case. You get what you get. I can imagine for any judge to see your name show up on the docket as the trial judge assigned to this case is probably one that is not met with a great deal of joy or welcome, because you know that every decision you make is going to come under incredible scrutiny by all parties. You might find yourself the victim of attacks, as wove seen with others. I think that a judge is entitled to the presumption of good faith and independence until they show themselves otherwise. Lets talk about state versus federal, the advantage for the defendant for these defendants in particular is that if its moved to Federal Court, it is all of the Northern Georgia district. So he has a different jury pool where Fulton County is democratic. The rest of georgia has red areas. There will most likely not be cameras in the court. That said, what he was doing in Fulton County was not what a typical white house Chief Of Staff does. That wasnt his white house duties to go in and oversee the Election Count and press those local officials. Yes. This Removal Statute allows a federal officialcharged in the where im not sure i can get a fair wrap and the state is interference with my official duties as an officer of the United States, so it should move to Federal Court where i can get a fair shake. The requirement for that is that they were only acting in the scope of their authority. Here, superficially, mark meadows makes a decent argument. All i did was Attend Meetings and arrange phone calls and show up for vote counts and do things the president asked me to do. If that were the end of it, maybe so. The indictment here doesnt accuse mark meadows of simple performing his duties as the Chief Of Staff. It accuses him of abusing his authority. You have to take these allegations at face value. His argument is likely to fail. Ryan, barbara, thanks to both of you. Completely overwhelmed. Why one Firefighter Group says battling the maui fire was like being a cop in a gunfight without bullets. 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More than 106 people have died in the maui wildfires, and the death toll continues to climb, with only 27 of The Burn Zone searched. Hawaiis governor is saying officials expect to find between 10 to 20 bodies a day. Miguel almaguer was granted rare access inside The Burn Zone. Reporter ground zero of The Burn Zone, for the first time the federal government giving nbc news an up close view of the destruction as Search And Rescue look for the missing. How would you describe the search area . How daunting was it . Its the worst thing i have ever seen. Its aapocalyptic. Reporter where were escaping in vehicles. Authorities have to go car by car to see if they can find anyone who didnt make it out alive. With more cadaver dogs on the way, officials expect to identify up to 20 new victims a day. This 79yearold and this 74yearold are the first two officially be identified. The governor says multiple children are also among the dead. We are heartsick that we have had such loss. Reporter families like this man, the wait is agonizing. His grandmother is missing. I love you grandma. I hope you are at peace. We go slow, methodical. We are thorough. We are respectful. These are somebodys family. Reporter the cause of the fire is still under investigation. This resident says he watched a downed power line ignite dry brush just outside his home. Flames start almost immediately after from the dry grass. Reporter at least three lawsuits have been filed against hawaiian electric, alleging turning off the power lines would have saved lives. The Utility Company had no comment. Now, a week after the fire destroyed this haven, families are left waiting for answers from the ashes. Joining me now is bobby lee, president of the Ohio Firefighters Association and the Chief Executive Officer of team rubicon, a humanitarian organization that served communities before, during and after disasters. The video is devastating. He would saw how quickly they ignited. Tell us about the challenges that the firefighters are facing, things like thank you. I was there on sunday. I looked over it. We experienced we lost homes in other parts of the island, too. Nothing as bad as lahaina. It looked like somebody dropped a bomb. Ive been in the Fire Department for 36 years. I have never seen anything close to this. Its really heartbreaking. Its a tightknit community. Its a Tourist Attraction across the world. Its sad to see Something Like this. How much was the lack of Water Pressure a factor . Apparently, that seemed to be pretty much everything. We had half a dozen crews there when this fire started. That was the biggest problem i heard from our members that were there was that they couldnt get water. When you have a fire company, a fire truck without water, theres not much you can do. Its like a Police Officer gun without bullets. We cant do anything without a water source. Art, talk to us about team rubicon. You have covered so many disasters. How much of a challenge is this in terms of getting resources there . Obviously, the fact that this happened on an island makes things more difficult. We always have the luxury domestically here notice United States, the ability to have Supply Chains that are resilient, can happen quickly. Those are complicated on islands like hawaii. One of the things that we are really lucky to be able to have, however, is we have a presence of volunteers that are that understand the culture, able to respond and work closely with the officials such as mr. Lee there and his teams. The government officials at every level. To ensure what we are doing is aiding in the recovery instead of creating unneeded taxes in a situation where everything from water to food to lodging, theres a competition. Our goal is to ensure we can aid mr. Lee and the officials to ensure what were doing is helping those survivors of the terrible tragedy. Bobby, the white house Just Announced the president and first lady will come to hawaii on monday. Theres always the concern that they are coming too soon. Here is what the president had to say. I dont want to get in the way. Ive been to too many disaster areas. I want to go and make sure they got everything they need. I want to be sure we dont disrupt the ongoing recovery efforts. By his coming monday with everything that that involves, the huge teams that always travel with any president , is this the right time for him to be coming . Is it too soon, too late . What will his presence mean to you . I think having the president here would be a really good thing. Whenever he decides to come. Me personally, i was pleased when he signed the emergency declaration. Just to have the amount of federal resources that are coming in now is very, very comforting. The search teams, the cadaver dogs, its a sad event to have to take care of. Its reality. I appreciate all the federal resources. 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