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Transcripts For MSNBCW American 20240704

With alicia menendez. Thank you so much reverend sharpton. Menendez hello everyone, im alicia menendez, coming and they are tonight with Breaking News L of maui, where the death toll has risen to 93. Sadly, officials fear that number will rise. These are now the deadliest wildfires in modern u. S. History. Heres hawaiis governor, josh greene, earlier today, on msnbc. If they need, they need our love. They need our embrace, and they need resources. Right now, we are still in the throes of the acute phase of this recovery. Meaning that we are still recovering the tragic loss of life, and the bodies that were, that were previously here in hawaii. Its a war zone. As the death toll rises, and rescue Recovery Efforts expand, theres also a growing push for accountability across hawaii, three law firms have already filed a Class Action Suit against the Electric Company on maui, claiming the wildfires could have been avoided if the Utility Company had turned off powerlines ahead of the wind storm that sparked the fires. Another high priority at this, our getting essentials like food, water, clothing, and wifi to those who have been displaced. Were doing this as one big family, one big. And thats our mission right, now is to support the people who really need it. But right now, we are connecting all supplies, all non perishable food, all gas, all propane, all close, all food, everything you have. There is good news to bring, even in the thick of all of this devastation. U. S. Coast guard has rescued 17 people from the waters off maui. They have a jump, to escape the flames. The coast guard had also located 40 others, who went missing. Later this hour, we will take you live to maui for an update, including on how those Relief Efforts are going, with representative from world Central Kitchen, so stick around that. But first, lets turn to georgia. This week, we could see a fourth indictment handed down to former president donald trump. Fulton county d a fani willis will resent her case to the grand jury, starting tomorrow. At least two witnesses are ordered to appear tuesday. Georgias former Lieutenant Governor, and a freelance journalist, who stumbled into a meeting of alternate gop electors at the georgia capitol, on december 2020. Also, Georgia Election official gabriel sterling, said today he will testify again, if asked. Sterling oversaw the 2020 vote count, and repeatedly debunked trumps claims of fraud. I testified before a Special Grand Jury, and two interviews with the d. A. s officers. My lawyers havent said i can much about one, one way or the other. But if i am called, when im called, i will go and do it before. I will tell the truth, answer honestly. Thats all we can do in the situation. Joining now to discuss, msnbc legal analyst lisa reuben, an msnbc political contributor greg. He is a political reporter for the atlantic journal of constitution, and author of the book, flipped, on georgia politics. According to reporting, we could see the nine as early as tuesday evening. Help us understand that timeline, and who might be involved . Yeah, well it could be a multi defendant indictment. Weve expected this sort of time period to be in the crosshairs for a long time. But now we have it on the record, now that the former Lieutenant Governor jeff duncan they journalist above said that theyve been called in to testify behind crow closed doors. On tuesday, that sets up the situation of a scenario where we could hear from fani willis, the district attorney, as early as tuesday, that there could be indictments against donald trump. And, some of his key allies. Remember, about 18 Target Letters, at least 18 Target Letters were sent to the orbit around donald trump. So, we could be seeing indictments of many of his closest allies as well here, in georgia. Lisa, this may seem very oneonone to you. I think a lot of us are curious. Take us inside that courtroom, what is it that members of the grand jury are going to be hearing . Is it akin to Closing Arguments in a trial . What is laid out for them, at this point in the game . Basically, the prosecutors are going to establish for them, what are the elements of the charges that they intend to bring against which defendants. And then, theyre going to walk them through, and maybe a polymerase or ancillary way, the evidence that they have against each of them. Its certainly less involved than an actual trial. And the other thing that the grand jury has an opportunity to do, that or what we consider typical jurors, dont its two asked questions to those prosecutors, one on one, one at a time, sort of in the last form of a sphere. But thats what we should expect to happen. They can also asked questions, of the witnesses themselves. And so, we should expect that some of those who have particularly compelling stories to tell, they may engage in some back and forth with the grand jurors here. And, particularly given what we heard from former four of the Special Grand Jury emily kohrs, that may be something where we got some back and forth, between the grand jurors and the witnesses. Greg, Text Messages filed in a separate lawsuit show trumps attorney, sydney powell, organized a visit to the Coffee County election offices. What do we know about that part of the story . Yeah, weve known for a while that the Coffee County was under the microscope of what happened on. There is a little georgia county, very deeply conservative, Trump Country down there. It was not a very close election. But we know that the team of trump supporters, and data analysts, they had hired, entered the Coffee County elections boardroom, took and spent hours and they are copying voting data, was caught on surveillance footage, certain security. That data was stuck to Conspiracy Theorists in the county, pro trump Conspiracy Theorists. So we know thats under the microscope. We are not of course or that will be involved in the indictment, but we know that fani willis and her investigators 14, have been closely looking at what happened. When i asked one of our other legal analyst, lisa rubin, what this indictment might look like, she described it as chapters. That instead of laying out one ruling, either a big narrative that will take this piece by piece, i wonder when you look at these Text Messages, in this separate lawsuit, if you have any sense of where they might factor in in those Indictment Chapters . Youre talking about the Text Messages themselves . I think the Coffee County narrative is, as you are the legal guests explained to you, sort of part of a number of Overlapping Conspiracies. We used to think about what happened after the 2020 election, as successive stories. And we know now, through the federal indictment, through the january Six Committee hearings and other evidence, that actually, there were a number of sort of Overlapping Conspiracies that meet, in sort of one big event diagram. I expect thats how the george indictment will look. There were no people working together, and separately, on different elements of the plot, with the overlying objective to grant the presidency to donald trump, illegitimately, at the end of the day, alicia. Greg, you have trump running an attack at against a willis im not going to make our audience watch that. Talk us through what we know about security at the courthouse, how officials in atlanta are preparing, what it is that you are watching for. We know that the former president has tried to undermine and undercut the, and destabilize this investigation from the getgo, as well as the other investigations. We know that the d. A. Has talked openly about the threats she has faced, the racial epithets, the other slurs hurled against her. We know that she is under an intense security. There is Security Barricades around the courthouse, the streets are shut down. There are staffers who are working virtually starting last week we also know that theres a number of other measures to be taken right now they dont want to talk about, because they dont want to give it away to those who might seek to do harm. In her lisa, nbc asked the former President Trump yesterday, im sure you sought, if he intended to overturn the 2020 election. And his snarky response was, you know the answer to that. And i wondered, as i watched that, given the protective order and so much more what prosecutors might make of that remark. That remark is hard to make something else, right. Its like the Rorschach Test of political responses. You see and it what you want to see and it. If you are inclined to believe that President Trump intended to steal or overturn the election, you saw it one way. And if you believe that President Trump was solely trying to vindicate the real results of the election, which is to prevent it from being stolen by democrats, you saw what you want to see into it there. I dont think that the response comes close to violating either the terms of the protective order, which really is about how you deal with evidence of the case, or even President Trumps conditions of release, which more broadly covered witness intimidation, tampering with the jury pool, or other attempts to obstruct the administration of justice. However, to i think that his renewed focus on President Biden, and somehow insinuate that joe biden is behind the effort to prosecute him, when all evidence to the contrary, could get him in trouble . I do, and ill be watching to see how his social Media Communications evolve over the next days and weeks, particularly given that his lawyer, john promised to check it in court last, week that his client would abide both by the conditions of release, and whatever protective orders she entered. Yeah, it is going to be a very busy week. Craig lisa, thank you for being with us for the start of. It next, with trumps indictments clogging the headlines, democrats of the plan to flip the script. Were gonna take you live to maui, and the side of the deadliest wildfire in modern u. S. History. A humanitarian crisis, unfolding before us, and the world Central Kitchen is on the ground, working to help, and joins us after this. And joins us after this. Businesses need 5g solutions today. Thats why they choose tmobile for business. Mlb partners with tmobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. 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Trumps gop challenges try to evade questions and they dont mind attacking biden in the justice department. When i become president theres gonna be a new sheriff in town. Youre gonna have a new fbi director on day one. You can have the doj cleared out. We are going to have a single standard of justice in this country. I look at hunter biden. If he were a republican, he wouldve been in jail a long time ago. Why did it take two years to do . This why did this Say Hunter Biden is part of the family . Theamican people dont trust the department of justice, they dont trust the intelligence agencies. Joining me now is msnbc political contributor mack daddy, seat is a chief strategist for the bush cheney campaign. Also Alencia Johnson a political strategist and former Biden Campaign senior advisers. Good to see you both. Its Crystal Clear what republicans are trying to do. Trying to create a symmetry and the legal troubles of these two candidates that does not actually exist, and then they are doubling down on their core message of injure undermining It Institutions like our intelligence audience is, the department of justice all of the above. My question is, is it is as clear to voters as it is to us . Well, i think its clear to most of the voters that will vote in the generally election, its certainly not clear to voters that will vote in the republican primary. As i listen to that from nikki haley, and i listen to that from ron desantis, what you realize is that donald trump kind of put the biggest hole in the ship of democracy, he certainly recruited a whole bunch of other people to put more holes in the ship. Thats why i think we are at a time when yes Donald Trumps A Puck Proximate Danger To Democracy is to tayshawns of justice in the rule of law. But hes got a lot of recruits now the scene just as dangerous as he is, and i think thats what is most concerning in the country today and the state of our democracy. Im not sure if you had any the chance to watch reverend hal sharptons conversation with Vice President kamala harris. But she really make the case that democracy is on a ballot, it is a thing that she stays up and worries about, and she may not be prosecuting the case against donald trump directly talking with his legal woes, but she is under lining what the stakes of this election are. I think she is absolutely right. I did have a chance to watch that interview, but ive seen her speak over and over about this issue. Even before the Mainstream Media has been having this conversation of making a connection that this is what trump is doing is undermining the democracy. This is been the crux of her argument, and this is what we are voting for in 2024. In addition to the fact that the republicans are going after our institutions, theyre also going after our freedoms, that express our positions, whether its Voting Rights, or womens rights. All of these things are put together in his fight for democracy. I appreciate what you said at the beginning of the segment that these are two different types of comparison that unfortunately the republicans are trying to make the same. And it actually allows them airtime to talk about something that isnt their plan for the economy, that isnt their plan for health care, because the reality is, they dont n

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