Shortly in the Georgia Election interference case. Never before has a former american president faced a criminal indictment. Yet, now trump faces the possibility of defending himself in four separate cases. As he campaigns to reclaim the white house in 2024 Trump Supporters seem unfazed they showed up in fourth this weekend at the Iowa State Fair to cheer on their guy and to heckle the most popular opponent Florida Governor ron desantis. The fate of the nation will be decided by how the rest of america responds to this truly unprecedented State Of Affairs as Vice PresidentKamala Harris put in an exclusive interview on this program, just last night, democracy is at stake now. Joining me now to talk about it all it is congressman Colin Outspread of texas Congressman Allred is also running for the u. S. Senate in the Lone Star State hoping to replace republican senator ted cruz. Congressman, thank you for joining us. Thank you brad, meet rev. Lets start with possibly the luminous indictment of former President Trump in georgia the states former Lieutenant Governor says hes received a 48hour notice to appear before the Fulton County grand jury and signed the eight vandals could be proves that pressuring to present her case early this week. What is the significance of this case in georgia in your judgment . Well, georgia really became the epicenter of the former president s efforts to overturn the last election we all heard the audio of him asking for them to find 11,000 votes that he needed to overturn the election he was very honest within that conversation about what he was trying to do. He was very straightforward there has to be in our System Accountability for things like that. Before i came to congress i was a Voting Rights lawyer and one of the claims that we had often heard about trying to restrict the right to vote was that it was being done to protect voter fraud. We have an audiotape that of the former president engaging in that exactly. Saying i need to try and find votes that dont exist, and there has to be accountability, and i think thats were going to see with this case. , and aside from the accountability which is absolutely the priority of the Criminal Justice system, particularly for someone that sworn to vote, it disenfranchises people as Vice President harris told me, democracy is at state because when you can steal elections, voting does not matter thats the way we have protected our interest, there are so many cases against trump it can be hard for americans to keep them all straight. What the georgia case really drives home for me is that these were black voters for joe biden that trump was seeking to throw out or a place to keep them in office in 2020. What is your thoughts on this particular angle . I think about the georgians who stood in line and waited and voted during a pandemic knowing that there is a risk associated with that. Who would have a faith in their system that their vote would be fairly counted. The fact that georgia has passed some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country, unfortunately second to my home state of texas. These folks are trying to overcome all of that because they believe in the democracy, but they are really saying, certain voters dont count. Certain votes dont count, thats what i often hear when i hear them talking about the last election, whatever happened around it. What they are really saying, we might have, last we lost because certain people voted. There are still count the same. And thats unacceptable in our democracy. Its unacceptable in our country. So, thats why we have to stand up to. It ted cruz is also a big part of this effort to overturn the last election. Thats one of the reasons why im running to replace him in the United States senate. I need everybody is watching i hope you all go to colin allred. Com. We can do. It we can hold these folks accountable. Now, im glad you brought of the subject of Voting Rights. Because i spoke exclusively with Vice PresidentKamala Harris in the lead up to the 69th Anniversary that ill be joining, and leading as the head of the network, and joining martin to king the third and his of that awarded king. And i want to i bring some of what the Vice President said had to say. Take a listen. Are you concerned about especially among blacks in the election year, these are you concerned about . That im worried about it, because i also know that there has been a lot of effort, and laws that have been passed, to try to make it more difficult for people to vote. I mean can you imagine rev, in the United States of america, we went through all of these fights, the march on washington, john lewis, all of that, and these socalled leaders who are so bold as to unapologetically propose and passed laws to make it more difficult for the American People to vote. The gall. So, i do worry that we have to do everything we can, to remind people of why its important. And also, fight against those people who are trying to make it difficult. And when shes talking about people that make it difficult, it is trump. But its also the Republican Party, that has backed him, and as you mentioned, Senator Coons and others in the u. S. Senate. They have all had layer and giantess on the threat to Voting Rights, and they were all supported donald trump in his being on tape, as you pointed out, saying all i need is 11,000 something odd votes. I mean, this is almost unthinkable, if it wasnt so real and in our face, congressman. Your thoughts . And when i think about, this is the home state of course, that john lewis represented. And you know, i served with mr. Lewis in the congress, also in the congressional black caucus. He is one of the reasons why became a Voting Rights lawyer in the first place. The idea that, in our democracy, every persons voice voice counts. And that we have shed blood, to get to this point, two or we can have a pluralistic democracy, in which everyone can be involved. And you win some, reverent, and you lose some. But you dont question the results, you dont try to overturn the election. Certainly in texas, there been elections we didnt agree with. You never see is trying to say well, it shouldnt count, because we dont like how the results came out. And thats why we have to move from a model, reds, of the Supreme Court being the of our rights. To doing this right legislatively. And thats why ive been leading the charge in congress, to have to protect the right to vote and, protect against election subversion, and do everything we can to strengthen our democracy. Because i want to pass on a healthy democracy to my boys. And i know you has been a Career Working on this as well. And, its something that we not take our eye off the ball here. Because, january 6th and the last election, is the first time in our history we have not had a peaceful transfer of power. What weve seen since then is, stephen moore, a wave of Voter Suppression laws, trying to make sure that americans cannot make their voice heard in their election. Now a congressman, this week, the white house will mark the one Year Anniversary of the signing of the Inflation Reduction Act into law. Since the bills passage, not only has inflation moderated, but perhaps more importantly, the legislation has led to the investment of billions of dollars in clean and Renewable Energy for our kids, Craig Tens Of Thousands of good jobs in the process. Despite the successes, many voters say they havent personally felt the impact of bidenomics. Now, you sit on the infrastructure committee. How can democrats better deliver the message, about the economic successes, heading into 2024 . Thats right. Well, we have to talk about what we did in the last congress. Because i think the legislation that was passed was historic. And the Inflation Reduction Act is one the most important pieces of legislation i think in modern history, because it deals with climate change. And the summer that weve been having, with the wildfires in maui, and the record heat in phoenix, or the forest fires in canada. All over the world, we are seeing that we have to act on climate. And the Inflation Reduction Act is the biggest crime bill we passed in modern history. Its been a 30 reduction in our emissions by 2030. Its creating thousands of jobs, in my district alone. We have a new Solar Company coming, and bringing in 250 million, a facility that have worked that much, and it can be building in dallas, particular 1500 jobs, based on the subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act. And, so we have to talk about. This we had to talk about the manufacturing base, that we are bringing back to the night. States we have to talk about the investment, for example in texas, that were getting 35 Billion Dollars over the next five years, from the infrastructure bill. And that is bringing jobs and money back into our, stay to our communities. And it would not have happened, if it were up to folks like ted cruz, who voted against it. Folks who have, tried and said that were not going to make these investments in our own economy. Ted cruz also voted against a high tech manufacturing legislation, bring someone in jobs to texas. We could talk about, that were trying to and create Good Union Jobs in this country, and have done it through legislation in the last congress, that we now have to implement and make sure folks know. About all right, thank you for being with us representative. Lets now bring in my political panel. Michael hardaway, democratic strategist and founder of hardaway. Brian, wiggins chief of staff for the lincoln project. Let me began, ryan, with you. With trump and the potential for criminal indictment on the horizon, trials in these cases, could compliment trumps already packed Campaign Schedule in 2024. His federal election interference trial is set to begin in january. But, the New York TimesIs Reporting Trump also benefits from an indictment effect, in polling, fund raising, and with conservative media outlets, the former president has turned criminal charges into political assets. How do you see this playing out politically . I think we are seeing the same thing we have seen from trump since the very beginning. And that is a grift. Trump is not somebody looking for ways to make money, he has made money off of his mugshot that has not even dropped yet in Fulton County. I think you are going to see, and continue to pay money from his donors, and use it in ways that i dont think they intend for him to use it. And whats so sad is you know, these people, they dont see what really is happening. I mean, they believe what he is telling them, and it is just lies. I mean, this is the danger of continuing to allow for this to happen, without any consequence. So lets hope that these cases come to fruition, come quickly. And, that we get some justice. Because this cannot happen. I mean, this is a terrible precedent to set for this country. The michael, the white house estate relatively quiet about trumps various indictments. And of course, the Justice Department has now opened the special counsel investigation into president bidens son, hunter biden. How should democrats talk about the trump indictments, as a campaign issue, especially if he becomes the republican nominee . In my view, donald trump following desantis and the, others are so far behind, they will have no chance to catch up with donald trump. And so, republican voters, on the cusp of nominating an individual, who has been indicted three times. And, he is about to be indicted for the fourth. Time and so, that will be very interesting. Democrats have to drive home this message, surrounding trumps cavalcade of corruption, and all of these other problematic issues surrounding them. Because, if he gets elected again, it will be problematic, when he realizes that he got away with everything he did the first time around, and the American People i think, well see a crate of horrors that weve never seen before. And so i think its important, the democrats simply drive home the message towards independents on both sides of the aisle, that this man cannot get elected. Again ryan, lets talk about iowa. Now, nearly all of the gop president ial hopefuls were when voters the Iowa State Fair this weekend. The two top polling candidates in the state, donald trump and ron desantis, held dueling events. Trump swooped in, Tracking Thousands of people as he brought along a group of supporter lawmakers, from desantiss home state of florida. Meanwhile, desantis was trying to make inroads with voters, with face to face politicking, as he looks to reset his campaign. Well, what was your take away, from the candidates who are at the Iowa State Fair, when were they winners or losers, and did anyone do extremely well, or poorly so far . They are all losers. Exactly what michael said is true, the primary is over. I mean, it is over. They are out there, and theyre trying to go name idea, and they are trying to act all tough, but they are all going to fall in line behind trump, the way they always have. And he is up 30 points from ron desantis. I mean, the fact that ron desantis is currently in iowa, and not governing in florida, when we are having a Housing Crisis and insurance crisis, its hurricane season, the Water Temperatures in key west around 100 degrees. The fact that he is in iowa, schmoozing and not governing, tells you what kind of president he would be if he ever got the opportunity, but he never will, because its going to be donald trump again. He holds a huge, huge, huge number of in his own campaign. He is who they want. Ron desantis is trying to to run to the right of, trump you cant run to the right of trump. So, what you are going to see is, youre going to see all of these guys going to spend all of their money, and you are going to see most of the money most of them not make it to south carolina, because donald trump is going to be the nominee of the republican calm party again this year. People need to get ready for, they need to be ready for biden versus trump. It is two choices, there is no third choice. Any third choice gives vote to donald trump. You have two choices, you can have joe biden, and you have trump. Michael, lest we last week decisively at rejected a ballot measure, that would have made it more difficult to protect Abortion Rights in the state. The Washington Post reports, that as the Republican Party runs into roadblocks trying to restrict Abortion Rights in some states, the gop base is warming up to the idea of a federal abortion ban. Based on what we saw in the postdobbs midterm elections, the idea of a national ban would seem to be very unpopular with american voters. How should democrats be fighting back, michael . Its an interesting question. I think that there are two important ways to look at this. This is clearly another case of government overreach, which i would presume many on the right would have an issue with, as it relates to Government Infringing on the rights of an individual to decide what to do with their body. To answer your question, the question of Abortion Rights did help democrats win in the midterms, and bring it up again on the republican side will be incredibly, incredibly stupid. And so, democrats should drive home the idea that womens rights are important, and we should not allow Government Figures in suits, in ohio or washington, or anywhere else, to tell him what to do with their bodies. And so, democrats, if theyre smart, will write that into victory in the president ial election. Michael hardaway and ryan wiggins, thank you both for joining us. Just ahead, the Takeaway Message for my interview with Vice PresidentKamala Harris this week, as we prepare to mark 60 years since the march on washington. But first, i do want to continue to hold maui in my heart, and sincere prayers, as the island now becomes home to the most wildfire in modern american history. Early this, morning officials in maui county said, at least 93 people had been killed, the governor of hawaii says, this is likely the largest Natural Disaster in the states history. Three law f