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Mounting about why residents werent given more warning. Whether more should been done to alert people, to what the governor says, will likely be the largest Natural Disaster in state history. Nbcs joining us from maui, lets talk the latest on the search for survivors. Is it still being classified as a Recovery Operation . How are they looking at their . This is still a Search And Rescue effort. You may have seen me spinning around as this was happening. That is because the road behind me has just opened up. This road has been shut down due to a curfew for the last few hours. Really, overnight, stay lit a few people in yesterday. Then they shut it all down all of a sudden yesterday. People have been waiting here for hours, since 3 00 in the afternoon yesterday. It is now 5 00 in the morning. This is finally opening. This is a huge deal to folks. They are still waiting to get into see their homes. Maybe reunite with people that are missing. This is happening as we speak. I will tell you that Search And Rescue effort is, certainly, the primary operation. Things are getting desperate. A lot of it is shifting to recovery. More and more cadaver dogs, teams that are now diving into these buildings that they were not able to get access to. Unequivocally they will find more dead. Again, youre looking at this live. People now, for the firsttime, getting to go back in. They will likely see the ruins and remains of their community. Take a look at what we found. Take a l ook atthis morning, the Grim Rey Setting in. Residents returning to the charred neighborhoods where their homes wanted. Why is governor saying it looked like an atomic bomb hit. Warning locals to brace themselves. Everybody lost everything. We dont know how to feel. The view from above showing the apocalyptic scene it was left of a raging wildfire swept through the Island Tuesday taking nearly everything in its path. Homes flattened loans of cars incinerated the Historic Town of lahaina in ruins. Nbc tom giannis flying with a Helicopter Company now delivering Water Supplies to the people in need. Its so heartbreaking. It is hard to put into words what weve seen out here. The exact cause of the fire still unknown. Dramatic new video now emerging showing the frantic moments as people jumped in the water to escape the flames. There was a very challenging situation for our small boat crews. Rescue teams combing through one destroyed building after another. It is the most heartbreaking thing ive ever been through. Residents making their way to the burn zone over the weekend, the line of traffic getting back into the Highness Trenches for miles. This is horrendous. We are just trying to figure out what we have. If we have anything at all. Many who evacuated, shock and sadness now turning to questions. Usually they put on the hurricane sirens. They do something to warn us. Nothing. Like, everyone was just Word Of Mouth evacuating. Some residents are asking why they didnt hear warnings from the siren system before the fires erupted . Why is governor telling nbc news that telecommunications were severely impacted by fire and high winds. Much of the equipment was destroyed with the fire. It is a very remote place. Of course, we would never diminish any kind of responsibility. We will leave it to our Emergency Management team to help explain things Going Forward. Three other other systems were activated according to the why merge unseat Services Administration including phone, tv, and radio alerts. For now, the race to find survivors going more desperate by the hour. Again, this road opening up. This is the road into town, into lahaina. A lot of people have been waiting in this line you see behind me for hours. I mean ours. E for just having to close off r back. Some people were tourists happening jumped in a car instantly overnight. Other people made to shelters, they want to know what was happening back at their homes. Other people need vital medication that they havent been able to get access to. This is an important moment for these folks who have been waning this will go on, maybe, for about a mile or so. Back on down we have spoken to some of these residents. They are a little bit frustrated with the level of communication on how to get access back to the haina. They are happy now, obviously, that this traffic has opened up. In the meantime the Rescue Effort does continue. I will say that it is getting more desperate by the minute by the hour that death toll certainly expected to increase. It is beyond heartbreaking to observe all of this. I imagine that line goes back as far as we can see. People trying to come back to see what, if anything, they may have. Thank you so much. We will see you again in the next hour. If theres one big question that remains, it exists . How and why did wildfires but so quickly . I will talk to representatives from fema at the bottom of the hour. Also developing this, our former president , donald, trump is expected to arrive within the hour at the iowa state fair. It is a signature political event when candidates coverage on the first of the nationstate to meet angry voters. Trump and his chief gop rival, rhonda santiff, will be campaigning at that same event. While there is no indication on whether they will come face to face, many iowa voters are looking at it as a clear showdown. I did vote for trump in the last election. But we love desantis. I like trump. He delivered on many things. But trump has an ability to end up fighting people. Trumps trip to iowa comes hours after judge chutkan issued a protective order with limits on Sharing Evidence on trumps three federal indictments making remarks about the case. Special counsel in the hunter biden investigation, republicans say this could be a tactic to stonewall their congressional investigation. Democrats say it is what republicans have been clamoring for. It puts republicans in a bind. They are the ones who called for a Special Counsel. We gave them a Special Counsel. Theyre the ones who accused the Department Of Justice being a deep state and city out to get trump. But that same entity is in fact holding the president s son, the democratic president some, to account. For more on those developing stories im joined by nbc news s ryan riley who was in the room for the trump hearing yesterday. Also the hunter biden Special Counsel announcement. And makes you very busy guy. I can throw bunch of questions that you starting with this, ryan. Starting with this, ryan what exactly does this Executive Order order trump from talking about . How do we know if he violates it . It is gonna cover a lot of the evidence. Some of the evidence is already on to possession through other means. Various ways that it can already have gone to him. Whether you be documents from his prison to, communication directly with him, et cetera. That is gonna cover a lot of information although Donald Trumps team can always appeal that go to the judge and say, hey, we think this should be changed in some way. Overall, the judge is attempting to hammer through that she is not going to tolerate any attempts to intimidate witnesses or any language that might lead to the intimidation of witnesses. Obviously donald trump has this entire Social Media Platform that he owns. Is a major Lake Megaphone that he is historically targeted in january six himself. We saw what happened at the result of his rhetoric. And think that is all ultimately what its gonna be making the message clear for donald trump and his lawyers. Making sure that she is in charge of the courtroom. And her priority is bringing the case to fruition. One theme that we had on there was the world yield. Donald trumps First Amendment rights are going to yield to the court justices. The priority the number two priority would be his rights. Making sure that it is known that this case is most important thing moving forward. She is going to make that a priority. What if he talks at a turn . What if he violates this order . Do you think that could speed up his case . E it current a very much could. Obviously the big thing is holding him in contempt, potentially. Realistically we are talking about a former president here. And the message that she really hammered home is it will be very difficult to get an unbiased jury. You are making all of these public comments. That is really going to speed up his case. That is the carrot and the stick that we are working with here. If you make these inflammatory comments, we are going to have to press this and get the trial going us into the. Can lets play what some of abby lowe and the attorney for hunter biden said yesterday before the appointment of the Special Counsel in that case. Here it is. His title became Special Counsel today. His powers were the same yesterday. What is different . Doesnt make any difference to us be given what we understood to be the case. Once again, people need to understand that the Attorney General and he, he mr. Weiss, have sent for a long time. He had all the authority he needed to get all of the charges appropriate in one place. The answer should be nothing different. So quickly, to you, why did the doj feel it was necessary to appoint a Special Counsel . What kind of effect could that have on the Special Counsel investigation . They didnt specify but i think here is a solid theory for why they would need to do this. He was the u. S. Attorney for delaware. If there are other charges he needs to bring elsewhere, he cannot do that under his current authority. Becoming Special Counsel allows him to bring cases elsewhere including california and in washington d. C. Where some of the alleged conduct took place. You cannot just have the u. S. Attorney from deliver filing occurs in d. C. That is the impediment that was brought forward. From the beginning they we said that he is interested of this case. If theyre gone with a plea agreement, it couldve done this in delaware. That wouldve involved waving the rights that hunter biden had. He wouldve had to waive his venue. Rights thank that was the main impediment. Brian riley, thank you so much for that. All of, you heads up. Watch for ryans upcoming book, sedition hunters. How january 6th broke the justice system. It is set for release in october. Meanwhile, my next guest was also in the courtroom when the judge issued a protective order against donald trump. What doj might drop the 11 million documents in this case. We are back in 60 seconds. Mlb chooses tmobile for business for 5g solutions. 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Now a civil rights attorney. Welcome to you. Both hugo, you first, you were in the courtroom yesterday. What stood out to you during the hearing . Was it any contentious moments . At the end of the day this was a procedural hearing to discuss guide the scope of a protective order. I think the theme was the judge laying down the law, in a sense. Saying that there would be no politics and no nonsense in my courtroom as we go to trial one of the big things was her warning at the very end when she effectively told trumps counsel that if trump continues to make inflammatory remarks then that could press her to go to trial soon her. If you look at the content of the Executive Order this was indicative of where her mind is that as we go through the proceedings not lisa she told trump that he could not be sharing discovery materials with anyone other than his Notice Council that are defending him in this case. Some of these other people might include yet unidentified coconspirators. Here is a look at now is off limits to trump. Personally identifying information, evidence presented to the grand jury, anything sealed. Anything related to witness interviews. You asked, what is not covered by the protective order . That is the correct question to ask because trumps lawyers thought they Hada Predural win when the judge said, okay, we will designate some material of sensitive another arians nonsense into. Trump is free to share the nonsense of the material. When she actually broke down what might be a niche bucket, the things left in the nonsense of the bucket or probably throw then to difficult to make it yesterday a win for trump. Although they do get one of their request granted. I think that Going Forward in this case trump is going to have a lot of problems at least with this judge who, another January 6th Riot defending cases, have made clear that the obstruction of power was a grave issue. She definitely has an issue on that. Is there any sense, quickly, and when doj might drop these 11 million documents, who knows how many audio visual recordings . The prosecutors yesterday there in the Special Counsels office said that it was going to come very, very, shortly. They would expect to have the majority of the discovery complete by august 28th. That is the next time the there might be a slight wrinkle because there may be Classified Information but that will have to go through the necessary steps as part of the discovery but it sounds like the majority of the discovery is going to be done by the end of this month. Kristin, to you, the judge is allowing trump to view material on his own. He should not have a device that either photographs or records. Its his lawyers need to review any notes that he takes. How is judge chucking going to enforce this . Does her lawyer now put the lawyers in some sort of legal crosshairs . As lawyers we are officers of the court we have to be candid to their core otherwise we face ethical and legal bars. This really does put the onus on the lawyers in this case given trumps history of not really listening to lawyers, i think this is going to be a really challenging task for his attorneys. Do you think it is an unenviable position they find themselves in . Absolutely. I would not want to find myself in that position. Listen, they are skilled attorneys. They have a successful track record. They are going to put themselves, if they are smart, in situations where their client will not be able to create situations that could potentially disbar them, for lead them to have trying to tell the court that he has violated this order. I want to go through some of judge chutkan remarks. The effects of the Political Campaign will not influence my decision here. What does this tell you on how she intends to run this trial on how far she is intending to go if he violates her order. It is interesting because i think it is consistent with how she has always been on the corner. This protective order really did do a great job of striking that balance. It made sure that it protected witnesses, protected witnesses and the information and the trial but it also minimized any infringement on trumps First Amendment right, as you pointed out. It is not absolute you. Were not allowed to engage in misconduct that would intimidate or create any type of fear for witnesses in terms of retaliation. Or cause them not to want them to testify at trial. She really is maintaining the integrity of the process. Notwithstanding the fact that his comments could, potentially, taint a jury pool to get his ability to get a fair trial. I think shes really trying to strike that balance there. The doj wants this trial to start on january 2nd of next year. Other trump trials are set with march with key dates on the gop calendar between them. Do prosecutors receive the appearance of trump being piled under . What are you hearing with the Behind The Scenes schedule . I think the schedule in the 2020 election case is more aggressive than people had intubated. It is a very fast timeline to go from [inaudible] already as a trial scheduled in new york, the new york case. I think there is an expectation, on the Justice Department side, that this will get pushback. Not least because there will be extensive pretrial motions and have to be brought. Also because of this added element because the potential Classified Information being introduced in this trial, as well. Let me ask you the same question if i could, its almost like predicting the weather in the summer. The prediction are really hard to make. A normal legal proceeding with a normal Criminal Defendant and we

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