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Revealed. I dont get a chance to explain it . You are not controlling this anymore. Exposing hidden bombshell evidence. Hes on the property where a woman is murdered and we dont know who he is. Everyone on social media was like, thats the guy that did it. Who was in prison, the real killer or the wrong man . We still have a murderer out there. You never know how somethings gonna go. Hello, and welcome to dateline. Michelle mockbee met the love of her life, dan mockbee, at The Warehouse where they both worked worked. They married, had two daughters and were busy Juggling Jobs and family. Then a day that began like any other suddenly turned deadly. A Security Camera quickly led police to a suspect. But just when michelles loved ones thought justice had been served, a scandal turned this story on its head. Heres Josh Mankiewicz with the early shift. They call it the early shift for a reason. It was still an hour before dawn in this small town in northern kentucky. And in a few hours, a local warehouse would become an ant hill of activity, as the first employees of the morning arrived. But who among them could predict that before the first coffee break that day one of their coworkers would be dead . I just walked in our office, and i think somebody has killed Somebody Upstairs in our office. Okay. What makes you think somebody killed somebody . Shes laying there on the ground, and theres blood all over. Impossible to believe in this tightknit workplace, where everyone knows everyone. But there was Michelle Mockbee, 42, wife and mother, face down in a pool of blood. The investigation that involved followed would peel the lid off the entire company and take a hard look at every employee who was there that morning. You know that your suspect is one of those people in the building . Thats right. Probing for clues in the victims private life. The detective asked me if there was any trouble in their marriage. Eliminating suspect after suspect, until there was one. And just when it seemed to be over, it wasnt. Did you have a sexual relationship with her . Are you denying that . I dont think it is any of your business. A scandal would scramble everything. You are not controlling this anymore. You are not the Commonwealth Attorney right here. Objection. They say the wheels of justice turn slowly. In this case, the wheels came completely off, leaving a family wondering, who would do the right thing for a kind and loving woman who went to work one morning and never came home . If you give Michelle Mockbees siblings a chance to tell you about their sister, they cant say enough good things about her. She was a good big sister. A role model. Michelle was just the most amazing sister that you could ever ask for. Very loving, caring, giving person. She would do anything for anyone. She always had a big smile. And her laughter was contagious. Michelle carried her positive spirit into the workplace. She was head of payroll at that warehouse owned by Thermo Fisher scientific, a worldwide supplier of laboratory equipment. It was also where she met her husband, dan mockbee. What was she like . What drew you to her . Michelle was funny, attractive, intelligent. There was a vibrantness to her. I mean, she was beautiful. It was at a Thermo Fisher Christmas Party back in 1999 that dan first summoned the courage to share his feelings with her. Youd been thinking about michelle . Oh, absolutely. He asked michelle to stick with him that night. And she did. And then everything went sideways. And it was the worst date in the world. What went wrong . I dont know. I was totally off my game. I couldnt speak. But then i asked her out again and she said yes and well, maybe you did something right. I must have. I dont know. Or she felt sorry for me, gave me another chance. I dont know. Michelles family soon met him. Next thing you know, theyre seeing each other and getting pretty serious. After she came along . Oh, my gosh, world totally changed. I mean, sun got brighter. It was just a totally different world. Michelle and dan married in 2001 and continued to Work Together at Thermo Fisher. Not long after, came two daughters. Madeline and carly. I remember she pretty much said be nice to people. So i am going to be nice to people. Because she was nice to everybody. Yeah, she was. She would always play games with us in our backyard and take us to all of these fun places. She was just a fun person to be around. But even as busy parents, dan and michelle always planned a date night every other monday. Memorial day 2012 was no exception. How was she that night . Happy . Absolutely. Normal . Uhhuh, normal. The next morning, michelle got up to go to Thermo Fisher for the Early Morning shift. Dan had the day off and stayed home. She wakes me up, kisses me goodbye, says i love you and went to work. And that was the last you saw of her . The last i saw of her. At 5 53 a. M. A Security Camera captured michelles car as it arrived at the parking lot. She stopped by The Warehouses time clock and headed upstairs to her office. About an hour later, a supervisor named ed noticed a big stain on the upstairs hallway carpet. He started looking arounded the area with the help of coworker, the janitor, david dooley. Ed was out on the mezzanine just part of the ways, and i was holding the door. And there was just he said, theres a dead body laying there. What did it look like . I just saw from the knees down. I didnt see the whole thing. But honestly im glad i didnt look because id never been around anything like that. It was kind of frightening for me. Someone inside Thermo Fisher had killed Michelle Mockbee. But who . And just as puzzling, why . Coming up what was in that office that anybody would want . I dont know. The questions begin. Where was michelles husband dan The Morning Of the murder . I was sleeping. When what a great alibi, right . 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They saw the bloodstains on the hallway carpet, and concluded michel had been dragged around the corner of her office. The office itself was locked, but there was fresh prime marks on the door. It looked like an attempted breakin. What was in that office that anybody would want . Thats the mystery. While the detectives were trying to make sense of the crime scene, michels husband dan was still at home. Coworkers has started reaching out to him, but all they told him was there had been some kind of incident at The Warehouse. And thats when i started getting nervous. Dan rushed to The Warehouse. To detectives, he might have been the victims loving husband, or the perpetrator of an incredibly violent crime. Right now, they didnt know much. After he was escorted inside, dan took the initiative with detective. I looked at him and i said, excuse, me officer, my wife works. Here i really need to know that shes all right. And that is when he told me that she was deceased. His reaction was pretty excruciating to watch. I still had to press on, and i still had to move forward with my looking at him as a possible suspect. When police ask you where you were at the time your wife was killed i was doing most people are doing at 6 am, if we dont have to get up and go to work, you know . I was sleeping. Its not a very good alibi, but its only when i had. Detectives asked dan to go to the sheriffs station to take a lie detector test. You agree to take the polygraph . Yes. Thats a scary thing. Because if it goes wrong, all of a sudden, there is a case against you . Right. It was nerveracking. But dan mockbee passed the polygraph. And this time, the husband didnt do it. And with dan, cleared the detective focused on who was there that morning. 13 employers were working in the regular shipped when michelle was killed. Detectives interviewed all 13. With each person i talked to, there is no blood, there is no evidence theyve been involved in anything. If its one of these people you are interviewing, theyve disguised it well. They have. There was nothing suspicious about any of the 13 interviews. So, detectives started methodically digging through other evidence. Starting with Thermal Fissures Security Camera footage, and right away, they spotted something unusual that happened in The Morning Of the murder. A vehicle in the parking lot not entering but leaving, around the back of the building. Detectives matched the truck to its owner, david dooley, the janitor. And one of the workers who found michelles body. Dave dooleys truck is seen leaving the parking lot at 6 31 that morning. Right after the murder . Thats right. Thats right. The Security Tape showed dooley returning to The Warehouse around 7 00 a. M. , Detective Mcvay thought it was not that he hadnt mentioned that when i first spoke. They needed to speak with dooley again, so they went to the apartment he shared with his wife, janet and dooley wasnt surprised to see them. A kind of figured it would happen, to do a followup. Before Detective Mcvay even brought up, dooley told him hed gone home The Morning Of the murder. Mcvay recorded their conversation. I came back here, and then went back to fisher. You came back here . I can back here, yeah. I couldnt get a hold of my life, and i came home to make sure she was okay. Yesterday you didnt tell me you left. Why, you are just i didnt think about that. The detective also question davids wife janet separately, to see if she would tell the same story. This conversation would prove critical to the entire case. What she said is in dispute because a part of the recording is hard to hear. Once the first time you saw dave after he left. Was the first time i see him yesterday . Yes. When you came, after he was yes, yeah. I ask her specifically if david ever came home that morning, and she says no. Two stahl and mcvay, janet dooley had just contradicted her own husband story. So police questioned her again about that apparent discrepancy. You told the other detective that he didnt come home that day. I did . Janet seemed surprised. She told police that david did, in fact, come home and the reason she offered raised more questions for investigators. He said he ripped another pair of pants. Yet to come home and just, you know, grab a new pair of pants. Janets statements were not helping her husbands cause. David dooley never said anything about ripped pants to police. Adding to the confusion, detectives spoke with Thermo Fisher employee joe seagert, who told them he talked with dooley that morning. According joe he made it a point to come over to him and say, hey, man, i had to go home because i ripped my pants. Dooley was adamant he never said that to seagert and did not rip his pants today. But differing stories about why he came home placed the bulls eye squarely on david dooleys back. We started working on a Search Warrant for the residence and the truck. You execute those Search Warrants and you find bloody clothing. No bloody clothing. Stuff taken from the crime scene that shouldnt be at his house . No. Some kind of Murder Weapon . No. Nobody close, no weapon, but david dooley was the only employee who left The Warehouse on the morning Michelle Mockbee was killed. And they were witnesses contradicting dooley s account of why he left that morning. On september 27th, 2012, the Boone County Sheriffs Department made its move. David dooley was arrested, and charged with the murder of his coworker, Michelle Mockbee. Case closed, not by a long shot. But the david dooley would expose secrets, tarnish the reputation of law enforcement, and have michelles Family Question if justice would ever be served. Coming up david dooley was in the middle of breaking into her office when she came up the steps and surprised him. A break in . What was he after . 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[ helicopter Josh Mankiewicz voiceover Michelle Mockbees Favorite Color had always been red. Michelle mockbees favorite since her death, her family has worn red in her honor, color had always been red. Since her death, her family has worn red in her honor. And thats what they did in october, 2014, when they flowed into this kentucky courthouse for david dooleys trial. On may the 29 th of 2012, dan mockbee lost the love of his life. And two little girls lost their mom. At the hands of a man who couldnt even keep his story straight from one day to the next. Prosecutor linda tallysmith knew she didnt have a perfect case. There were no fingerprints no, dna. So she told jurors they wouldnt hear about any smoking gun. But they would hear david dooleys own words, which had made him The Last Man Standing in the detectives Process Of Elimination. It was through this process that the path kept turning back to one person, the defendant, david dooley. Jurors heard that almost all the employees working on The Morning Of the murder were on The Warehouse floor, far away from the Upstairs Office Area where michelle was killed. They were eliminated as suspects. We were able to create a time record of where everybody was and what they were doing at different points during the morning. And where was david dooley . There is a red pickup truck. The jury got to see Dooley On Security video from that morning. The defendant left that building that day at 6 31 a. M. Which was about half an hour after michelle walked into the building. The prosecutor showed the jury a photo of those Fresh Primarks on michelles office door and said they were a crucial clue that helped explain the murder. Our belief has always been that david dooley was in the middle of breaking into her office when she came up the stairs and surprised him, and ultimately she was assaulted and restrained. Because she was a witness to a crime in progress . Absolutely. The medical examiner said michelle was bludgeoned with something similar to an industrial packing tape gun. But why wasnt any Blood Evidence found on david dooley. And why wasnt any of the dna found at the Scene A Match to his. The prosecutor argued the janitor worked every day with Cleaning Supplies and plastic bags. Together perfect for removing evidence of a crime. At the time david dooley attacked michelle in that hallway, what did he have with him . A rolling Crime Scene Cleanup parked with a trash bag in the middle of it. It is my personal belief that when he left that blowing he took with him a bag containing all of the evidence that was missing from the scene juror a coverup so spotless only a janitor could manage it, said the prosecutor. It was only his story, she said, that was a mess. It is very hard for a person to explain how they cant tell the same story twice. And in these circumstances, we had four separate statements from him. Detective mcvay testified it was only in dooleys second interview at his apartment that dooley first mentioned leaving work and going home. And i came back here. Okay, what time did you come back here . 6 30, i couldnt get ahold of my wife and came home to make sure she was okay. His wife janet said davud did come home, to change a pair of ripped pants. He had to come home and change a pair of pants. It sounds like an alibi. Except david dooley adamantly denied doing that. I never said that. Okay you didnt rip your pant . No. When Defense Attorneys got their turn they talked about all the hard evidence the state didnt have. Dna evidence, Murder Weapon. Blood evidence, marks on david dooley. Dooley never testified in front of the jury, but he did talk to dateline about the case against him, and his story that differed from his wifes. You say you went home to check on your wife. And she says he came home to change his pants. Whats the truth . Why dont you agree on the same story . We agree that i came home. Did you go home to change your pants . No, i did not. Why would your wife say you did . I dont know. We talked about that a couple of times. The only thing welcome back come up with is she didnt hear me properly. Janet dooley has serious Hearing Problems and on the day of the murder she says she only saw a pair of ripped pants in the house and thought thats why david said he came home. A person who cannot hear put things together their self through their eyes. And i did. Dave didnt change his clothes and didnt chage his story. Dna was picked up from five different places, and none of that was match to david dooley or anybody else. There were many unknown dna profiles. One of these unknown profiles could have been the killer. The defense noted that something set off The Warehouse alarm item just three days before the murder. You think thats significant. Yeah. Yeah, its significant. That means that someone could have gained access to Thermo Fisher. After both sides had presented their cases, it was time for Closing Arguments. No one could think of any reason to kill Michelle Mockbee. So what motive would david dooley have to kill Michelle Mockbee. But it was only after the defense had wrapped up its closing that the prosecutor gave her answer to that question. Laying out her theory of motive for the first time. I would suggest to you that the evidence is right in that stack of stuff over there. You have time cards. You have invoices. All kept in michelles office. You think the motive was the time cards . Yes, i believe that michelle had actually discovered the fact that he had actually been triple dipping by clocking himself in, clocking his wife in, and getting paid hourly to do a job that they were already being paid a monthly salary to do. That feels like a thin motive. Sometimes desperate people do desperate things. Was david dooley desperate enough to commit murder over falsified time cards . It would be up to the jury to decide. Coming up we the jury a verdict from the jury. But the real stunner was what came after. So i dont get a chance to explain it . You are not controlling this anymore. A prosecutor turned witness. And a case turned upside down. They lie. They cheat, thats what they do. After everything thats come out, do you think they got the right guy. We absolutely think they have the right guy. When dateline continues. And side effects of that surgery meant that she had to relearn how to walk and how to speak. [ male announcer ] you can join the battle to save lives by supporting st. Jude childrens research hospital. Two months after we arrived, my threeyearold came to visit, and claire lit up. She was quiet before. And i thought it was just because cancers hard, but she was really missing her siblings, and i didnt realize how much. All right, young lady. Were going to see how much you weigh, and how tall you are real quick. Mama. Hey, claire. 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But the twists in this case were just getting started. Here again is Josh Mankiewicz with the early shift. After waiting a full day without hearing a verdict, michelles siblings were on pins and needles. When the first day comes and goes and there was no verdict, were you worried at all . Stressed. Stressed. Yeah, it was agonizing waiting. Then after deliberating some 16 hours over two days word came from the jury. There was a verdict. We the jury find the defendant david dooley guilty of murder. Guilty for the murder of Michelle Mockbee. Did you have anything to do with the death of Michelle Mockbee . No, i did not. I did not kill her. David dooley was sentenced to life in prison. He filed an appeal. You know getting convictions reversed on appeal is a long shot. When you are innocent, it does happen. And it will happen. Dooley was right. It wasnt over. Two years after his conviction, a whistleblower came forward to reveal a secret romance between detective bruce mcvay and prosecutor linda tallysmith. The scandal rocked the Prosecutors Office and would lead to serious questions about david dooleys conviction. Brian hamrick covered the scandal for nbc cinncinnati affiliate wlwt. All the information about the personal conversations between the prosecutor, linda tallysmith and the Lead Detective, bruce mcvay all of their correspondence, all of that comes out. The jawdropping headline said the affair between the prosecutor and the Lead Detective began weeks after the trial. At a Hearing In March of 2017, the prosecutor and the detective, both instrumental in putting dooley behind bars, found themselves on the hot seat, being grilled by dooleys new attorney, deanna dennison. Are you telling me you didnt have a sexual relationship with her . We were friends. You are under oath. We were friends. Did you have a sexual relationship with her . Are you denying that. I dont think it is any of your business. I am asking you to you are under oath. She will testify. Shell say. Tell me what it is your answer is. I just said, yes. Okay. Thanks. Simple. Lets talk about this letter. It was a sensational courtroom drama. But the issue for the dooley trial wasnt the affair. It was an 18page letter in which the prosecutor blasted the detective who was by then her former lover, as an outright liar, both personally and professionally. She ended up reading her own scathing words into the court record. Now that i know what a complete [bleep] liar you are, i am going to grapple with [bleep] ethical issues in every case in which you were involved. She says she was upset because mcvay didnt tell her what was on a Thermo Fisher video she had come across. Dooleys attorney continued reading. Not to mention the fact that you allowed me to go through a complete [bleep] murder trial without mentioning that video. Now that i know it what the [bleep] am i going to do now. What the am i supposed to do now . Right. That tells the story doesnt it . That may be the most damning paragraph of the entire trove of information. 8 p. M. Random dude. The video in question shows a man outside the Thermo Fisher building. Police call him the random dude. It is hard to tell exactly what hes doing, but hes on the property where a woman is murdered brutally ten hours later and we dont know who he is. The Prosecutor Says the defense was given this video. The Defense Attorneys say they never saw it and were never told about the random dude. That would have been in our closing. Our whole defense was, he didnt do it. So if we can point to unknown individuals that were trying to gain access to the building, that would definitely have been used. Remember, tally smith said she didnt know about the man on the video during the trial but finally learned about him from mcvay afterwards. But then, she did nothing. She didnt go to the judge. Didnt go to the attorney general. And she didnt go to the defense either. She wrote a letter to bruce mcvay saying how could you do this to me. I get live with the worry that someone on the defense side will find it at some point and we will wind up in trouble over it and the entire case will be tainted because of it. You wrote that . I did write that. In defense of her actions tallysmith testified she subsequently calmed down and never sent that letter. And besides, she said, the video with the random dude, was much ado about nothing. It doesnt constitute any evidence that someone got in that building. Would it have changed anything about the case . No. Absolutely not. For his part, mcvay said he didnt tell the prosecutor about the video because he was confident the random dude wasnt the killer. But after hearing the testimony, the judge threw out david dooleys conviction. It was a stunning development, setting the stage for a new trial. David dooley would remain behind bars in the interim. Dave found out and called me. He was crying. He was relieved that finally he was going to get a Second Chance to prove his innocence. We still have a murderer out there. I am not going to shut up until dave comes home. Janet dooley was confident her husband would be found not guilty in a new trial because Detective Mcvays credibility was compromised after the prosecutor branded him a liar. They lie. They cheat to win. And thats what they do. Michelles sister said they were frustrated by the judges decision. But it didnt change their minds about david dooleys guilt. After everything thats come out, you think they got the right guy . We absolutely think they have the right guy. We have no doubt about that at all. Nothing that happened since the trial, nothing in the appeal has made you think maybe the jury was wrong . No. Michelle just was she deserves justice. She deserves this to be we all deserve all of this to be over with. Seven long years after Michelle Mockbee was killed, both sides had to brace themselves for a new trial. This time, there would be a new prosecutor, with a powerful new case. Coming up where are his boots . We searched his house, his garage, his feet. Missing boots. A suspicious screwdriver, and those time cards. They have never been found. There are missing time cards. Exactly two. When dateline continues. My Mental Health was much better, but i struggled with uncontrollable movements called td, tardive dyskinesia. Td can be caused by some Mental Health meds. And its unlikely to improve without treatment. I felt like my movements were in the spotlight. Ingrezza is a Prescription Medicine to treat adults with td movements. Ingrezza is different. Its the simple, oncedaily treatment proven to reduce td thats 1 prescribed. People taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most Mental Health meds. Ingrezza 80 mg is proven to reduce td movements in 7 out of 10 people. 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Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. With every case that i take, i review it and i ask is this person beyond all doubt guilty. Whoever did this was familiar with the facility. So you say who was there . Who left . Who left . Now we are down to one person. As for the random dude, hecks explanation for why he didnt matter. We wanted to hit that head on. What that man actually was throw something in the garbage can right beside the door. That guy was never identified . Never identified. For heck the heart of the case was in a david dooley was the only one to leave The Warehouse that morning. This was a bloody violent murder. They would be covered in blood. There were no clothes recovered from the scene. Whoever did it left. When you look at the camera, hes the only one who left. One of the things that could have covered in blood, dooleys steel toed work boots. Required footware at The Warehouse. Heck told the jury he might have gotten rid of them. Where are the boots . They searched his house, his garage, his feet, his truck. These were never found. So did dooley leave work to check on his wife or to get rid of Blood Evidence . David dooleys statement was that he went home to check on his wife . Right. You dont believe that . No. He wasnt texting saying how are you doing . And she never texted back saying i am feeling bad. That never happened. David did place one unanswered phone call to his wife that morning before going home. To heck, if dooley was really concerned about his wife, he wouldve called more than once. Heck also found janet and david dooleys conflicting stories suspicious. Its her version of the story you find more interesting . Yes, because she is essentially covering up for a criminal. Remember the disputed audio of janet talking to investigators the day after the murder. When is the first time. When the first time yeah, yesterday after after he came home. He came home after [inaudible] janet dooley denies ever saying her husband didnt come home that morning. And she accuses detectives of manipulating her words and ignoring her Hearing Problems. But heck points to another interview with Detective Stahl several weeks later in which janet seems to admit saying her husband never came home. I have been spending the last few days reviewing all of the interviews that we have done with you. And i said, when dave left for work that morning, when is the first time that you saw him after he left for work . And you said when you guys let him go that afternoon. Thats how i remembered it. So the second time they went over her first statement with you and said you told us this, this, this, and she said yep, thats how i remembered it. She said the exact same thing and thats that david dooley did not come home. Prosecutor heck dont know why dooley wanted to break into michelles office or why he would have wanted to kill her. But to heck the fact he was double dipping on time cards and that michelle handled payroll and that the dooleystime cards from that week were never found, were together all too suspicious to ignore. As we sit here today we never found david and janet dooleys time cards from that week. They have just never been found. So, there are missing time cards. Exactly two. Would janet have had them with her coming in to do payroll. She may have gathered them up. And heck emphasized a screwdriver was found inside dooleys locked janitor cabinet. A screwdriver the same size as the primarks on the door to janets office. What are the odds this screwdriver is a different screwdriver . The screwdriver, like much of the case, was circumstantial. Hecks response, there was simply too much circumstantial evidence to ignore. At some point a coincidence is not a coincidence. At some point, its just overwhelming evidence of guilt. Now, after years of waiting for their Second Chance at a trial, david dooleys defense team was ready to make their case. And at the top of their list of alternate suspects was michelles husband. No alibi. The police didnt even bother to take his phone. Coming up new questions about michelles husband, and all that insurance money. 409,000 of Cash Withdrawals . Could he be paying somebody . I dont know. What would the verdict be this time. Right away, your heart just starts pounding . Yeah, i was terrified. When dateline continues. Weeks. Dupixent is an addon treatment for specific types of moderatetosevere asthma thats not or sudden breathing problems. Dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. Get help right away if you have rash, chest pain, worsening shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in your limbs. Tell your doctor about new or worsening joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection. 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This time, there was a new prosecutor, and new evidence. Including a screwdriver found in davids locker that matched primarks on michelles office door. Now it was the defenses turn. And they would come out swinging. Heres Josh Mankiewicz with the conclusion of the early shift. David dooley had waited five years for a Second Chance in court. Ladies and gentlemen, david dooley didnt murder Michelle Mockbee sfoor his new attorneys were eager to present their new evidence to a jury. There was new evidence of course, that random person we wanted to introduce. Rules of evidence prevented Defense Attorneys from introducing listen at that tally smiths letters in court, the one where she accused Detective Mcvay of being a liar. But what they did have this time around was the random dude video that had led to the overturned conviction. We have a entire first trial in this case thats conducted on the fact this is a fairly secure building. What the Walking Man Shows is that thats not true. To the defense that random dude was just one of the alternate suspects ignored by detectives. Every single thing that was done from the mom they say that david left on that Surveillance Tape was in an effort to convict david as opposed to make sure they had the right person. The defense brought up other warehouse employees. They focused on michelles husband, dan, and the money he received from meshls Life Insurance policy. We saw Cash Withdrawals, 10, 000, 12, 000, 14,000. All of which suggests what . Something is wrong. 409,000 of Cash Withdrawals . Could he be paying somebody in i dont know. That feels like you are throwing everything at the wall the see what sticks . Yes, i am. Because it is all reasonable doubt. Prosecutors, detectives, and michelles family all agree that dan mockbee had nothing to do with his wifes murder. And on the stand, he said as much. Did you have anything to do with absolutely not. Hiring somebody to kill your wife . Absolutely not. The defense also questioned the states theory of motive. You dont dispute that david dooley was stealing . No. We think that he was, yes. You dont think he would kill to cover that up in. No. No. Absolutely not. Even though it would have meant the loss of his job and maybe the loss of his wifes job . So we are going to kill somebody . No. It had nothing to do with covering up a theft, a theft which we dont even know she knew with. I mean the way she was bludgeoned. Thats not from somebody who is oh, shoot she found out about it. You are going to spend the time to tape her legs up and drag her all over the place. And remember the steel toed boots the prosecution said were never found. The defense said they were found, they were in these fools. They werent teal toed but he wasnt the only one to violate the Footwear Rules at Thermo Fisher. If her Closing Arguments. It is not a question of did he maybe do it. Did he probably do it or could he have done it . Maybe by Process Of Elimination he is the only one that could have done it. Thats not the standard. The standard is proof beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it. And they have not shown that to you. Now, once again, the case was this the hands of a jury. This time, it took seven hours. Somebody said they have a verdict. So right away your hear just starts pounding. I was terrified going upstairs to sit in the courtroom. We the jury find the defendant david dooley guilty of murder under instruction number 4. For the second time, david dooley was convicted of murdering Michelle Mockbee. What did you client say afterward . No, not again. Michelles siblings had a different reaction. When they read that guilty, just felt everything bam, release. Lots of tears. Lots of tears. Lots of hugs. At the end of the day, this is a guilty man. And the jury rightfully found him guilty. David dooley maintains his innocence and remained silent at his second sentencing. He still says i am not going to confess to something i didnt do, even if it means this judge could change my sentence, give me a lower sentence. I am never going admit to something that never happened. The judge sentenced dooley to 43 years. He is appealing. It has been years since michelles death. But shes still part of her daughterslives. Madeline and carly say it is the Little Things that remind them of their mom. Bon jovi will come on the radio and we will think like oh, our mom liked that all that kind of music and would go to all kinds of concerts and she was just a fun person. Everything i know about your mom makes me think that she wouldnt have wanted you in a courtroom, wouldnt have wanted you to hear about a murder trial. No. She wouldnt have wanted any of this to touch you at all. No. No. She would just want us to be like happy. Yeah. Maybe she will finally get her wish . Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im andrea canning, thank you for watching. 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